Lee Is Either A Genius Or A Moron
In fewer than 26 hours, we'll have a better idea which.
The Mariners still must think they can acquire a haul for lefty starter Jarrod Washburn. They just asked one National League team for two of its top prospects for a pitcher most teams think should have been traded to the Yankees by now. New York long ago offered to take Washburn and pay the rest of the $14 million left on his $37-million, four-year contract while sending Seattle a decent prospect. Instead, the Mariners have been trying for a home run. They want a top prospect back from the Yankees and for New York to pay Washburn's entire contract.
Mess this up and I will show you no mercy.
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Ugh. This can only end up poorly for the Mariners.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phildopip on Jul 30, 2008 11:19 AM PDT 0 recs
No
He is an interim GM desperate to impress his bosses before the upcoming interviews.
I’ll bet he doesn’t get traded before the deadline and then we try and get him through waivers.
by manyoso on Jul 30, 2008 11:20 AM PDT 0 recs
There's a thin line between genius and insanity
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 30, 2008 11:21 AM PDT 0 recs
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Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 11:30 AM PDT 0 recs
Phone rings
NL GM: Hello
Lee P: Hi, this is Lee P. with the Mariners. Are you interested in Jarrod Washburn?
NL GM: Well, we could be.
Lee P: How about Washburn and $4M for two of your top prospects?
(pause)
NL GM: Are you fucking crazy?
Lee P: No.
(pause)
Lee P: Well, what if I decreased my asking price by 50%?
NL GM: So, you’re saying I get a half-off sale? Okay. That works. I’ll fax you the papers now.
Lee P: Thank you, sir. Pleasure doing business.
NL GM: (faxes papers) ... (pause) ... Wait, dammit!
by andrewgolfsalot on Jul 30, 2008 11:37 AM PDT 0 recs
There's nothing wrong with waiting for the best offer,
you just can’t piss off everyone who’s willing to deal with you.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 30, 2008 11:43 AM PDT 0 recs
If Lee gets both top prospects and salary relief
I will…. speak highly of him on this website.
So far, so good. You’ve gotta know when to compromise, but so far, he’s doing the right thing.
by marc w on Jul 30, 2008 11:48 AM PDT 0 recs
Unless he ends up with nothing because he pisses off all the potential suitors.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 30, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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I just noticed Race for the Strasburg.
Thanks Jeff.
Leaving the fuckin Pads in front of our windshield
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 11:53 AM PDT 0 recs
Jeff's a thief
Wait till the GLB people hear about this
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
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They had a post from Dex (one of the mods)
talking about how they needed to stop rooting for Strasburg (ie, losses). They do not deserve the awesomeness that is SAS.
Also seriously someone kidnap Selig and force the Yanks/Angels/Red Sox to trade A-Rod, Joba, Lackey, Tex, Manny, Ortiz, and Beckett to the Nationals.
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
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I won't root for our losses but I'll root for those other two teams to win
I’m thinking about bringing a sign to Petco that says “Win this for the Mariners”
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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I root for people who might be useful in the future to do well.
I do not care about the results of the games at all, unless Felix can get a win or we’re playing the Angels/Red Sox.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on
Jul 30, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
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I agree with this
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 1:04 PM PDT
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Strasburg creates a win/win situation IMO
If the M’s win, then hooray, M’s win.
If the M’s lose, we’re one step closer to Strasburg.
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
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The Mets
I’ve seen rumors tying the Mets to Arthur Rhodes, Raul Ibanez, and now Jarrod Washburn… As Buster Olney says:
The Mets’ priorities as they near the deadline are No. 1, a reliever; No. 2, a corner outfielder; and No. 3, an experienced starting pitcher.
Hey, why we have one of each and they are all up on the trading block… would be fun to see a giant firesale going to the Mets.
by manyoso on Jul 30, 2008 11:54 AM PDT 0 recs
Who do we take back in return though?
I thought the Mets cupboard was pretty bare.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 30, 2008 11:57 AM PDT
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We don't need much to make it worthwhile.
Really, we can only expect value for Ibanez. The Mets have that much.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on
Jul 30, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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they'll probably trade Ibanez for Pedro straight up.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Jul 30, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Hey, I heard the Mets are offering Pedro for Ibanez.
It’s a rumor now! Yay!
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on
Jul 30, 2008 12:19 PM PDT
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I would
expect some value out of Rhodes actually. There just aren’t that many experienced LHP relievers out there for the taking. Teams overpay for these “specialists” every single year.
by AZSEAfan on
Jul 30, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
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Well, some.
But not a ton. The top of the Mets farm system is pretty bare, but they’re sure to have several players that would be good return for Rhodes.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on
Jul 30, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
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Lee, this is one the few times , where we don't care if we get anything good back in return.
Seriously, you could receive shit back in return, and we’d be fine.
Just get rid of him. Make him disappear. Just do it Lee. Do it now!
One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 11:57 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm loading up on beer now
I have the feeling that only a cold, frosty brew will bring me any solace tomorrow…..
Only 32 days until football…...
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Jul 30, 2008 12:18 PM PDT 0 recs
Oh god I can't wait for football season.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phildopip on
Jul 30, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
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Broncos are goin' to the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
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Don't underestimate Cutler.
I’ve seen him kill 5 horses barehanded and then raise them from the dead.
Also Marshall once carried 13 guys into the end zone.
BELIEVE
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
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I've been predicting Broncos-Hawks SB for like 5 years
because my best friend is a Hawks fan. 2005 was very close and very painful for both of us.
Fucking piece of shit Steelers
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 5:31 PM PDT
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I don't see how we can mess this up..
Either we get something for him before the trade deadline or we get the salary dump after the deadline. Even the M’s can’t mess this up, right?
by drm1125 on Jul 30, 2008 1:07 PM PDT 0 recs
There is no floor.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
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Sure we can. Lots of ways...
1. Say Yanks fill their needs another way and no one claims him off waivers.
2. Lee and company decide that Washburn turnaround is legit and keep him next year.
3. He injures himself OR more likely he regresses between now and when M’s try to push him threw waivers.
Lots of ways for M’s to screw this up.
by manyoso on
Jul 30, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
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Baker thinks genius, and he might be right
The folks at Newsday have also been all over this deal from the beginning. They call this a “dead’’ deal, but I don’t share that opinion. I agree with Harper above in that the Yankee spin-meisters only want folks to think it’s dead so that the M’s will cave and throw Washburn out there. But as we mentioned two days ago, and which the Newsday reporters do in their piece, the M’s are really under no pressure to get a cash-only deal done with the Yankees on Washburn. You can do that in August, since waivers won’t be an issue in a salary dump. Well, they could be an issue for the Yankees if a team steps up to claim Washburn, either out of interest or to block a trade.
But if it’s a salary-only deal anyway, the M’s can just let that claiming team take Washburn and all of his salary. What do they care? At most, they’d lose that third-rate, token prospect the Yanks are offering to throw in right now. No big deal. As we discussed, as long as the Yanks stick to their current position, the M’s are under no pressure to move Washburn by tomorrow. They can always call New York’s bluff and then, if they really are desperate to unload his salary, just make the move on Aug. 1. New York’s needs won’t change in one day. They aren’t going to walk away from the salary-only deal just because 24 hours have passed.
by OlSalty on Jul 30, 2008 1:12 PM PDT 0 recs
*Face Palm*
I just read this:
“Use Tug Hullet as the everyday SS.
I like the kid a lot, I’ve seen a few Rainiers games at Cheney and he strikes me as that Dustin Pedroia-esque scrappy sparkplug of a middle infielder. He shows a good glove (certainly better than what we’ve gotten from Yuni lately), better than average power for a SS, and enough speed to keep him out of trouble and swipe maybe 15-20 bags a year”
On USSM. This person can’t be serious.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 30, 2008 1:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Tug Hulett plays the game too seriously
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 1:22 PM PDT
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Plus then you'd stop closing your windows just to see a YuniMonkey.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
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I'm curious.
I wouldn’t say he’s good, even decent, but I’m not sure he’s that much worse than Yuni. Gomez called him a better-hitting Bloomquist; unfortunately this is better than Yuni.
He’s not a long term answer at all (I think he’d be a much better WFB as a utility guy) but he seems like he could be an improvement on Yuni.
On the other hand, Strasburg
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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Yep
Our current SS seems to be starring in a one-man show entitled ‘There Is No Floor.’ Tug would be an upgrade.
That says much more about the state of this franchise than it does about Hulett, but it’s still a factual statement.
by marc w on
Jul 30, 2008 1:38 PM PDT
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Does Yuni have any options left, where we could send him down to get in shape?
And maybe find his glove and bat?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 30, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
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If the dude can't even spell Hulett's name right
how can he know he’s any good?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
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It was kind of a dumb comment, to be sure.
That said, if Yuni goes away and we play Tug at SS for the rest of the year, I’m all kinds of okay with that.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on
Jul 30, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
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Mets are backing off Ibanez.
Marlins are playing down Rhodes talk.
And Washburn is still a Mariner.
There is no floor.
by manyoso on Jul 30, 2008 1:41 PM PDT 0 recs
Vidro's option vests......
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on
Jul 30, 2008 1:54 PM PDT
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GS52 traded for Maybin
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:54 PM PDT
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Seriously?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 30, 2008 1:58 PM PDT
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No..talking about 'no floor'...how he was basically a 'throw in' for Bedard trade but his value right now is high.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Jul 30, 2008 2:01 PM PDT
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Which was of course the plan all along.
They never wanted GS52 for themselves.
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on
Jul 30, 2008 2:02 PM PDT
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God damn you for setting up the Lillibridge meme
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 2:05 PM PDT
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ESPN is reporting that,
but they aren’t the most accurate source.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 30, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
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ESPN likes the Yankees/Red Sox given the markets
It’s in their best interests for the Yankees to get Washburn for nothing, so why not play up this sort of storyline in hopes the M’s will feel pressure and fold?
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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