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Rosenthal:

The Cubs, trying to cover every angle in their quest to win their first World Series in 100 years, are discussing trades for a left-handed hitter, including Mariners outfielder Raul Ibanez.
The team is not close to a deal, major-league sources say, and ultimately might settle for a bench player who would be an upgrade over Daryle Ward, or make no trade at all.

Olney:

Washburn a fit for Mets?

"It's a natural fit for those two teams," the executive mused.


Yes, it's barely anything, I know.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported Wednesday that the Pirates are deep into talks with the Rays about Jason Bay. Separately, with about 29 hours to go before the trade deadline, sources indicate to ESPN that while nothing is imminent, the two sides are talking constructively and trying to bridge the gap.


Yes yes yes, go Rays.

Per Rotoworld, (via Goose)


The Miami Herald reports that the Marlins are close to acquiring Arthur Rhodes from the Mariners.
The 37-year-old southpaw has a 3.83 ERA and 26/10 K/BB ratio in 21 1/3 innings for the Mariners, pitching to a total of 83 batters in his 35 appearances.

 

Update: Pudge to to the Bronx:

Rosenthal:

"You have to give up to get," Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said. "You have to do the balancing act."

Tigers president Dave Dombrowski said the team didn't want to trade Rodriguez, but had bigger needs in the bullpen. The two teams began discussing the deal early Wednesday and had it wrapped up about six hours later, just as the Yankees were finishing off a 13-3 win over the Orioles.

"It's going to be very exciting. They are in the race and I'm ready to do my job," Rodriguez said.

I don't get this at all. It's a complete steal for the Yankees.

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Hm...

Any idea on what the return for Raul would be? Pie? How’s his defense?

by LantermanC on Jul 30, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Say it ain't so

I’m having horrible nightmares—an outfield of Soriano, Edmonds and Ibanez. How is that for the lame, the halt, and the lame?

Where is Mick Kelleher when we need him?

by 3744nsheffield on Jul 30, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The offense would be good.

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like these posts.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld:

The Miami Herald reports that the Marlins are close to acquiring Arthur Rhodes from the Mariners.
The 37-year-old southpaw has a 3.83 ERA and 26/10 K/BB ratio in 21 1/3 innings for the Mariners, pitching to a total of 83 batters in his 35 appearances.

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Giants are interested in Beltre.

Link

However they haven’t exchanged names so nothing will happen.

Considering their trio is off-limits I would just hang up the phone. But it would be nice to get Tim Lincecum back here.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cain

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, we wouldn't sell high on JJ, but we are listening to offers.

Cardinals and Red Sox are interested.

Seattle is willing to listen to offers on closer J.J. Putz but would have to get a big offer. St. Louis and Boston are interested.

I doubt we would trade him because I don’t think either team would be willing to part with a lot for a guy who is way less than 100%.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, Lee.

We demanded TWO top prospects from an NL team for Washburn.

If we end up getting nothing for him I’m gonna be so pissed.

Apparently the Yankees deal is dead for now and the Rockies and Mets are interested

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2/3 of 10 million?

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less than that...it's basically August

probably like 3 or 4 million.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2/3 of 10 million is 3-4 million.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jeff's reading, 2/3 = 4/6

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

no it’s not.

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean we owe him 2/3

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hell?

We’ve already paid him two-thirds of 2008’s salary. One-third remains.

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you ok JI?

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 30, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

It’s only like 3-4 million, right?

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Orioles want a young starting shortstop.

They had hoped to trade Sherril for one. Is there anything they have that we might want if we sent them Yuni?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

George and Jones.

by AZSEAfan on Jul 30, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lillibr----

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who the hell is lillibrstab

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Vegard Ulvang in left.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember that Nike commercial after the strike?

DON’T LIKE BASEBALL?
MOVE TO NORWAY

And then ESPN ran a feature about the Norwegian Baseball League.

I never saw the commercials again after that feature aired.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing baseball with Vegard Ulvang would be brilliant.

You’d hit the ball into the forest, and Vegard would ski in after it.

5 weeks later he’d ski back out having eaten his own brother to survive.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And I'd be safe, motherfucker

“Nice job getting the ball back in, Snowshoes!”

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed the tag.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

huh

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a rather handome man, isn't he?

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HANDOME

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is wrong with me today?

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the term we know

Standing Pat.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's still time.

I’m not going to be annoyed until the deadline passes, because I have a hard time believing teams would refuse to make a move they think helps their team because they got in a huff about it.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pudge to the Yankees for Farnsworth.

Per ESPN.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deryago

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3511535

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

Possible type A too. Don’t think the yankees would be dumb enough to offer him arbitration though.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's tough to see them doing.

Pudge seems likely to accept and unless they want to be paying $25M to a pair of well over 30 catchers…

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vance Wilson

Inge was splitting time with Pudge.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vance Wilson

Has not had an AB all year and is having a second Tommy John surgery.

by AZSEAfan on Jul 30, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dane Sardinha

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 30, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

....weird

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld does not like this trade:
ESPN reports that the Yankees have acquired Ivan Rodriguez from the Tigers for Kyle Farnsworth.
It’s incredible that the Tigers would give up their catcher for such an inconsistent reliever and, in the process, help a team they might have to face in October. They’ll go to Brandon Inge behind the plate now, and they’ll be completely ruined in the event of an injury to him. Perhaps they’ll trade for Gregg Zaun or another veteran backup. Rodriguez supplants Jose Molina on the Yankees. Chad Moeller could be let go.

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why.

Pudge is a FA after this season. The Tigers aren’t really in the race. Farnsworth in cheaper

I like this deal for the Tigers.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tigers aren't facing anyone in October.

but I still don’t get the move from Detroit’s POV.

However, as long as the Yanks don’t offer Pudge arb and have him reject it (two things I would be surprised to see), then I don’t really care about this.

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees are going to be in the playoffs again, aren't they?

Goddamnit.

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They still don't have the pitching.

It would take a miracle and Selig fixing it for it to happen.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. They won't pass the Rays and Sox.

Pitching.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on Jul 30, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

People have said similar things the last few years.

I’ll believe it when I actually see them mathematically eliminated from playoff contention

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They would need to get Clemens,

Bonds, and the fountain of youth.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to say they won't make it

but it seems like a serious long shot to me. They have two superior teams to get past this year.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derr.

Either too much coffee or not enough.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Tigers just saved 2 months of Pudge's salary.

That’s a win for them.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the fuck

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price and Brignac or no dice.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I work for Lee P.

I stand pat.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 30, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a lot of trouble believing Stark.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PRICE PRICE PRICE

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would people feel here about signing Abreu as a DH in the offseason?

He’s essentially Raul with higher OBP I think… I’m pretty sure he’s godawful at defense now. I’d kind of prefer Raul, but the stupid arby rules make Raul more valuable if we offer him Arb and he signs elsewhere.

by LantermanC on Jul 30, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not buying the Manny to the Marlins rumors that are out there

but if it happens it will be hilarious.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

These seem moderately more realistic.

Still not buyin’ it.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hiding Brett Favre

Would playing for the Raiders count?

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not good enough.

He needs to be in a Presidential secret hiding spot where he cannot speak to the media and vice versa. I used to be a Favre fan, but now he’s just annoying.

by Jed MC on Jul 30, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the CFL then

The question is not if, but which Roughriders team he’ll end up playing for.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was only ever one Roughriders team.

The other team was the Rough Riders, and they folded.

I’d like to see Favre in Montreal. They’d insist on pronouncing his name correctly.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny takes a little vacation like this every year.

He says he’s injured, gets a few days off, objects when people complain about it, and then comes back and absolutely kills the ball.

The Red Sox would be fools not to pick up that option.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny's bat has been declining and his defense is getting worse

You could probably get the same production for less money if you spread it around to their problem spots.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagreed

Manny isn’t very good.

by Jeff on Jul 30, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have Adam Dunn.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it.

Manny could get $100m, I don’t see Dunn getting anywhere close to that.

Disclaimer: I don’t want either

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Manny gets two years tops.

(I am trying to convince myself he can come here and it won’t be stupid.)

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

If he goes .300/.400/.500 I bet he gets a four year deal. Remember a slug like Alfonso Soriano is signed through age 38, it’s likely Manny can get 4/100.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

):<

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really curious about this winter.

GMs seem to be getting smarter, the economy is in a downturn and there’ll be a plethora of big name FAs to choose from plus a lot of big market teams won’t have huge pressing needs. Could be a (relative) bargain winter.

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

As you said, GMs seem to be getter smarter. Eventually, there are going to be more overpriced, big name free agents than spots dumb GMs have room for. When that happens, it could cause a pretty dramatic shift in thinking.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baltimore too.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Giambi a free agent?

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could perceive Manny as being an big upgrade

high average hitter, more marketable, and because fuck Boston that’s why

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might need Posada to play DH

depending on how his shoulder rehabs.

by Matthew on Jul 30, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be dumb

he’s probably a .260/.330/.430 hitter.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back up

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Yankee money isn't real

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 30, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh shit I forgot about that.

The Yanks are more likely to eat a sunk cost than anyone. He could be an expensive Jim Leyritz

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Dunn anywhere near Seattle.

It’ll be Sexson all over again.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 30, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like my brother compared to me.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 30, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thingray's brother?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 30, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My brother's in a slump too.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Jul 30, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs a slump buster.

Hey-oooh!

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on Jul 31, 2008 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fenway probably props up his AVG/OBP 20/30 points

IMO, he’s much like Burrell or a similar second tier slugger

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...hmmm...

Manny came to the plate in the bottom of the first for the BoSox, so this hoopla over some pending Florida deal isn’t done yet, it seems.

by Devin on Jul 30, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh boy!

And now Joe Frisaro checks in and let’s us know that the Pirates might be involved with Jason Bay headed to Boston.

:|

by Devin on Jul 30, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What hell.

FanShots are underrated.

by acblue on Jul 30, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That actually makes sense because

1) Not too much dropoff
2) It fucks over the Rays

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have both Boston's and Pittsburgh's games up on GameChannel

If either of those two leave, we’ll know what’s up…

by Devin on Jul 30, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d be shocked if it happened during game play today.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also in the GT, per Olney
As the Red Sox, Marlins and Pirates discuss a possible three-way deal for Manny Ramirez, the sides also are discussing lefty reliever John Grabow’s moving from Pittsburgh to the Red Sox. The current sticking point, according to a well-placed source, is that the Marlins want the Red Sox to add a prospect to their take in the deal.

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by JI on Jul 30, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To add to that, from Rotoworld
Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus says the Red Sox, Pirates and Marlins have agreed to a three-team Manny Ramirez deal, pending Ramirez waiving his no-trade clause and league approval.
Carroll, not normally one of our preferred sources, has the Red Sox getting Jason Bay and John Grabow; the Marlins acquiring Ramirez, cash and a prospect from the Red Sox and the Pirates picking up Jeremy Hermida, two prospects from the Marlins and one from Boston.

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Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gammons seems less optimistic.

Rick Ankiel wears Fairy Winkle underoos

by JI on Jul 30, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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