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Six line drives and one home run in 2.1 innings of work. Carlos Silva, you may not be the shittiest Mariner pitcher about whom I've ever blogged, but in a matter of months you've rapidly become one of my least favorite.

It's sort of troublesome, too, because no matter what a handful of Angels fans might tell you, I do pride myself on being able to simultaneously remain both emotional and objective, but Silva just makes it so flipping difficult to keep evenhanded. His contract sucks. His skillset sucks. His personality sucks. Carlos Silva the pitcher is a decent back-end starter who can blend in with the 4's and 5's of the world, but I find him so totally loathsome that it's hard to keep my opinions and my evaluations separate. While, generally speaking, I can usually tell when I'm being unfair, the inclination is there to give him a shorter leash than everybody else. And that puts me in a precarious position, because which way do I want to go? On the one hand, he's a half-decent pitcher who doesn't deserve his sky-high ERA, but on the other, oh my god I hate him so much

I guess all I can really do is tip you off that, while I will forever try to stay as objective with Silva as I can, there will be times at which I can't keep myself from ripping into the fat son of a bitch like he ran over my kid, because he's annoying, and I hate him, and I hate what he stands for, and the fact that he's locked up through 2011 with an unmovable contract means we're stuck with him in close quarters, and I defy you to hang out with someone this unpleasant for that long without allowing yourself the occasional snap. It just isn't possible. People need to vent, and Silva makes for a good target, because he's frequently the one who makes me have to vent in the first place. Couldn't you have at least waited a few more months before making me consider adding you to the list of the worst contracts in franchise history? Do you have any positive attributes at all? Good gravy you suck.

Three and a third years left to go. We are living Bill Bavasi's buyer's remorse. For your sake, you better pray you're one of those people who can effectively block out unwanted distractions, because this one's not going anywhere for a long long time.

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Biggest Contribution: Kenji Johjima's knee, +14.6%
Biggest Suckfest: JJ Putz, -74.2%
Most Important AB: Vazquez error #3, +39.7%
Most Important Pitch: Vazquez double, -64.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -90.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -14.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +54.8%
(What is this chart?)

No, I don't care how the game ended. You shouldn't either. At this point, the sole purpose of the season is to gather as much information on our own players as possible, and finding out that JJ still has a ways to go before he even dreams of getting back to what he used to be does this organization every bit as much good as finding out that he's back and healthy and better than ever. Forget winning. Here's to the pursuit of knowledge. Noble goals, both, but given our situation, one does far more good than the other.

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Yeah, it's stupid

Being the best hitter in Japan and then one of the best hitters in MLB over long stretches warrants respect.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm never going to understand the irrational Ichiro hate.

It always boils down to two things, he uses an interpreter and he has his own pre-game warmup routine.

Concerning the warmup routine, good on Ichiro. I wish more players were that devoted to keeping themselves healthy.

As for the interpreter, can you blame him? There’s so many crazy nuances to the Japanese language. Translating to English on the fly without botching it up isn’t easy, especially when you’re dealing with the media.

by BrianL on Jul 30, 2008 9:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's especially hilarious that he has a translator just for the media!

it’s not like he doesn’t speak English, he has his guy just to make sure that he says what exactly what he wants to say in a public forum. Stupid people and their passive racism…

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 9:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personality

(Excerpts from Baker blog)

Asked to assess his baserunning, he quipped: “I thought pretty good. Freezed up on the ground ball to third and then showed my speed. Now the secret’s out. They’re going to want two prospects for me.’‘

I like Washburn’s.

Carlos Silva apparently wasn’t happy at being pulled so early. Well, the only solution to that is to pitch better.

I do not like Silva’s.

by ThundaPC on Jul 30, 2008 2:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any notice...

Lopez has had an awesome 2nd half thus far? :D

Longest hitting streak in the majors currently to boot.

by Slica on Jul 30, 2008 3:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear God no

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 8:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This just keeps getting better.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In my defense, this was a terrible suggestion

Jose Lopez is awesome

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 8:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wasn't protesting.

It was was a terrible suggestion.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wrong.

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 30, 2008 9:05 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about selling high on JJ?

I mean, its a little late now, but what would he have gotten us had we traded him last winter?
The Red Sox did inquire about him recently, but they couldn’t have offered very much.

I guess we’ll see if he ends up in the mariner heap of players we waited to long to trade. He probably just needs more PT to shake his rust/confidence issues.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The consistency makes me happy

Despite the slightly subpar defense. I can live with this guy and he’s what, 24?? Seems like a good candidate to improve in the next few years. You have to be pleased with the focus and consistency he’s shown this year. Now that he’s proven he can do it for 162 games (hopefully), the next step is refining his game to maybe take a few more walks, get a little stronger, and turn alot of those warning shot outs he’s made this year into home runs. I think in his prime he can hit 15-20 HRs with 40 doubles, and go a consistent .280/.330

by DarkLou on Jul 30, 2008 6:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope so.

Hopefully the defense is just the metrics being wonky, as he’s been an average defender until this year for some reason.

In addition, for a 2B his bat is fine, and while I would love to see what we could get for him and add Hudson in the winter, Jose Lopez is perfectly acceptable 2B.

Yuni, on the other hand. The Dodgers were going to try to sign Adam Everett, who was sent down by the Twins. They would definiteyl give up something shiny for Ynui’s defense and potential and silliness. Dammit Lee trade Yuni.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 30, 2008 6:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone else have problems getting into LL last night?

I couldn’t get on. Last night’s game was awesome yet typical. Silva sucked hard and early. Lahair has another awesome night! Jarrod runs the bases! Putz shows that he’s still not 100%

by LantermanC on Jul 30, 2008 7:53 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The middle two

aren’t typical

I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.

by ralphie81 on Jul 30, 2008 8:05 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I raise my glass to the pursuit of knowledge.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, hey, Joh got hurt

If he and Clement are both still injured, is it Rob Johnson time?

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm really excited after having seen Wlad and Clement fail to hit in the bigs to watch Rob "no-hit" Johnson come up

and hit like .325/.365/.475 in a twenty-five game trial or something hilarious like that

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 8:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would that suck?

And in any event, we’re living that dream/nightmare right now w/LaHair.

by marc w on Jul 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would suck when Jeff Clement is wearing a Tigers uniform

and Dontrelle Willis is wearing a West Tenn DIAMOND JAXX one

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 8:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't currently have access to the link

But I stumbled upon a West Tenn DIAMOND JAXX commercial from 2007 where Baldwin was commissioned to stand with some teammates and do a cheesy little ‘get fired up’ rap song in front of the camera, which he took to with curious aplomb. Naturally, I elected to take it a few hundred steps too far.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you assume Clement would be the one traded?

Johnson’s value would be higher, or at least, would be as high as it could get, whereas Clement’s would be reduced.

by marc w on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No floor =(

I realize Clement probably wouldn’t be traded (dear God I hope not), just the irony would greatly amuse me

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The irony would suck

that two great prospects flatlined and then a scrub came in and pulled a Rookie Bloomquist.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, Rob Johnson hitting well wouldn't suck

It just sucks for top prospects not to perform.

by Gomez on Jul 30, 2008 9:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're used to it, though...

Clint Nageotte, Travis Blackley, Greg Briley, Marc Newfield, Roger Salkeld. The list goes on and on and on…

My layout.spellcheckDefault goes to 11

by PositivePaul on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about Burke?

I doubt we need 4(!) catchers. Burke still has so much to show us. Why turn to the kids? Its always better to evaluate them in the minors…or some crap. God I hate useless players, and for some reason we keep amassing them.

IS Clement still injured? I thought he was just hitting on Monday? Reinjured?

How close is Vidro to vesting his option?

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jul 30, 2008 9:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No no no no no no no

You hang on to your players, Bowden. You hang on to your players and you like it.

by Jeff on Jul 30, 2008 8:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course, if he wants to give us Ryan Zimmerman or Lastings Milledge.

I’d be fine with that. That’d be a weird trade. “The Nationals trade away their two best players for a promise from the Mariners for a PTBNL (Strasburg).”

by LantermanC on Jul 30, 2008 8:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three-way trade with Washington and New York

Washington gets Washburn and Raul, New York gets like $25 gift card to Starbucks and we get Brett Gardner and Ian Kennedy.

The Jose Lopez Watch - 129H - 16 BB - 56 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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