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Six line drives and one home run in 2.1 innings of work. Carlos Silva, you may not be the shittiest Mariner pitcher about whom I've ever blogged, but in a matter of months you've rapidly become one of my least favorite.
It's sort of troublesome, too, because no matter what a handful of Angels fans might tell you, I do pride myself on being able to simultaneously remain both emotional and objective, but Silva just makes it so flipping difficult to keep evenhanded. His contract sucks. His skillset sucks. His personality sucks. Carlos Silva the pitcher is a decent back-end starter who can blend in with the 4's and 5's of the world, but I find him so totally loathsome that it's hard to keep my opinions and my evaluations separate. While, generally speaking, I can usually tell when I'm being unfair, the inclination is there to give him a shorter leash than everybody else. And that puts me in a precarious position, because which way do I want to go? On the one hand, he's a half-decent pitcher who doesn't deserve his sky-high ERA, but on the other, oh my god I hate him so much
I guess all I can really do is tip you off that, while I will forever try to stay as objective with Silva as I can, there will be times at which I can't keep myself from ripping into the fat son of a bitch like he ran over my kid, because he's annoying, and I hate him, and I hate what he stands for, and the fact that he's locked up through 2011 with an unmovable contract means we're stuck with him in close quarters, and I defy you to hang out with someone this unpleasant for that long without allowing yourself the occasional snap. It just isn't possible. People need to vent, and Silva makes for a good target, because he's frequently the one who makes me have to vent in the first place. Couldn't you have at least waited a few more months before making me consider adding you to the list of the worst contracts in franchise history? Do you have any positive attributes at all? Good gravy you suck.
Three and a third years left to go. We are living Bill Bavasi's buyer's remorse. For your sake, you better pray you're one of those people who can effectively block out unwanted distractions, because this one's not going anywhere for a long long time.
Biggest Contribution: Kenji Johjima's knee, +14.6%
Biggest Suckfest: JJ Putz, -74.2%
Most Important AB: Vazquez error #3, +39.7%
Most Important Pitch: Vazquez double, -64.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -90.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -14.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +54.8%
(What is this chart?)
No, I don't care how the game ended. You shouldn't either. At this point, the sole purpose of the season is to gather as much information on our own players as possible, and finding out that JJ still has a ways to go before he even dreams of getting back to what he used to be does this organization every bit as much good as finding out that he's back and healthy and better than ever. Forget winning. Here's to the pursuit of knowledge. Noble goals, both, but given our situation, one does far more good than the other.
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Didn't Ichiro get his 3,000th (combined) hit last night?
by coolguyrob on
Jul 30, 2008 1:57 AM PDT
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ZOMG JAPANESE HITS ARE ONLY WORTH 3/5 AN AMERICAN HIT
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:04 AM PDT
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The sad thing is that people aren't going to like Ichiro even if he gets 3,000 MLB hits.
by BrianL on
Jul 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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Yeah, it's stupid
Being the best hitter in Japan and then one of the best hitters in MLB over long stretches warrants respect.
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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I'm never going to understand the irrational Ichiro hate.
It always boils down to two things, he uses an interpreter and he has his own pre-game warmup routine.
Concerning the warmup routine, good on Ichiro. I wish more players were that devoted to keeping themselves healthy.
As for the interpreter, can you blame him? There’s so many crazy nuances to the Japanese language. Translating to English on the fly without botching it up isn’t easy, especially when you’re dealing with the media.
by BrianL on
Jul 30, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
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It's especially hilarious that he has a translator just for the media!
it’s not like he doesn’t speak English, he has his guy just to make sure that he says what exactly what he wants to say in a public forum. Stupid people and their passive racism…
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
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People react negatively to what they don't understand.
Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP
by JI on
Jul 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
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Personality
(Excerpts from Baker blog)
Asked to assess his baserunning, he quipped: “I thought pretty good. Freezed up on the ground ball to third and then showed my speed. Now the secret’s out. They’re going to want two prospects for me.’‘
I like Washburn’s.
Carlos Silva apparently wasn’t happy at being pulled so early. Well, the only solution to that is to pitch better.
I do not like Silva’s.
by ThundaPC on
Jul 30, 2008 2:15 AM PDT
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Washburn is so much better than Wang
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At running the bases
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 5:11 AM PDT
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ahaha great quote from Washburn
He just went up in my book
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 6:54 AM PDT
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Same. Sounds like a guy who is both funny and likes to speak his mind.
Anyone who jokes about his trade value is good in my book.
by LantermanC on
Jul 30, 2008 7:54 AM PDT
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The likes to speak his mind part actually detracts from his likability
Because he usually just sounds like a douche
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:00 AM PDT
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Yes, people who tend to say a lot of things are bound to say something witty/funny every once in a while
Jarrod Washburn is no exception
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:01 AM PDT
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Any notice...
Lopez has had an awesome 2nd half thus far? :D
Longest hitting streak in the majors currently to boot.
by Slica on
Jul 30, 2008 3:29 AM PDT
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Dear God no



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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:00 AM PDT
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This just keeps getting better.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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In my defense, this was a terrible suggestion
Jose Lopez is awesome
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:10 AM PDT
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I wasn't protesting.
It was was a terrible suggestion.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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Damn it.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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You probably didn't even notice what I did.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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Depends what your definition of "it" is.
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by JI on
Jul 30, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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How about selling high on JJ?
I mean, its a little late now, but what would he have gotten us had we traded him last winter?
The Red Sox did inquire about him recently, but they couldn’t have offered very much.
I guess we’ll see if he ends up in the mariner heap of players we waited to long to trade. He probably just needs more PT to shake his rust/confidence issues.
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
by Montucky on
Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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Would it have been dumb?
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by JI on
Jul 30, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
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We were still planning to contend
Contending teams don’t trade away their closers
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
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I'm not thinking of any specific offer
I just know that his value was sky high.
by Jeff on
Jul 30, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
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Oh well, then, yeah.
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by JI on
Jul 30, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
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The consistency makes me happy
Despite the slightly subpar defense. I can live with this guy and he’s what, 24?? Seems like a good candidate to improve in the next few years. You have to be pleased with the focus and consistency he’s shown this year. Now that he’s proven he can do it for 162 games (hopefully), the next step is refining his game to maybe take a few more walks, get a little stronger, and turn alot of those warning shot outs he’s made this year into home runs. I think in his prime he can hit 15-20 HRs with 40 doubles, and go a consistent .280/.330
by DarkLou on
Jul 30, 2008 6:08 AM PDT
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I hope so.
Hopefully the defense is just the metrics being wonky, as he’s been an average defender until this year for some reason.
In addition, for a 2B his bat is fine, and while I would love to see what we could get for him and add Hudson in the winter, Jose Lopez is perfectly acceptable 2B.
Yuni, on the other hand. The Dodgers were going to try to sign Adam Everett, who was sent down by the Twins. They would definiteyl give up something shiny for Ynui’s defense and potential and silliness. Dammit Lee trade Yuni.
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 6:47 AM PDT
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What a lovely person
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 6:55 AM PDT
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Did anyone else have problems getting into LL last night?
I couldn’t get on. Last night’s game was awesome yet typical. Silva sucked hard and early. Lahair has another awesome night! Jarrod runs the bases! Putz shows that he’s still not 100%
by LantermanC on
Jul 30, 2008 7:53 AM PDT
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The middle two
aren’t typical
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
by ralphie81 on
Jul 30, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
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Yeah, I know, they were part of the "awesome"
I was talking about.
by LantermanC on
Jul 30, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
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I raise my glass to the pursuit of knowledge.
I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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Also, hey, Joh got hurt
If he and Clement are both still injured, is it Rob Johnson time?
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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I'm really excited after having seen Wlad and Clement fail to hit in the bigs to watch Rob "no-hit" Johnson come up
and hit like .325/.365/.475 in a twenty-five game trial or something hilarious like that
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by seattlebruin on
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And then I'd laugh and laugh and gradually break down into sobs of despair
No, fuck that I’d just go drinking
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:11 AM PDT
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Why would that suck?
And in any event, we’re living that dream/nightmare right now w/LaHair.
by marc w on
Jul 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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It would suck when Jeff Clement is wearing a Tigers uniform
and Dontrelle Willis is wearing a West Tenn DIAMOND JAXX one
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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Ooh, dueling rap commercials with PHAT ANDY 22!
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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What's the origin behind PHAT ANDY 22?
by BrianL on
Jul 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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I don't currently have access to the link
But I stumbled upon a West Tenn DIAMOND JAXX commercial from 2007 where Baldwin was commissioned to stand with some teammates and do a cheesy little ‘get fired up’ rap song in front of the camera, which he took to with curious aplomb. Naturally, I elected to take it a few hundred steps too far.
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
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Why do you assume Clement would be the one traded?
Johnson’s value would be higher, or at least, would be as high as it could get, whereas Clement’s would be reduced.
by marc w on
Jul 30, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
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No floor =(
I realize Clement probably wouldn’t be traded (dear God I hope not), just the irony would greatly amuse me
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
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The irony would suck
that two great prospects flatlined and then a scrub came in and pulled a Rookie Bloomquist.
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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Greg Dobbs is hitting .306. Jorge Campillo has a 2.76 ERA in over 100 IP. Bryan LaHair is slugging .625.
There is no floor.
by marc w on
Jul 30, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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Oh, Rob Johnson hitting well wouldn't suck
It just sucks for top prospects not to perform.
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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We're used to it, though...
Clint Nageotte, Travis Blackley, Greg Briley, Marc Newfield, Roger Salkeld. The list goes on and on and on…
My layout.spellcheckDefault goes to 11
by PositivePaul on
Jul 30, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
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It would suck for our hopes of getting SAS
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on
Jul 30, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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What about Burke?
I doubt we need 4(!) catchers. Burke still has so much to show us. Why turn to the kids? Its always better to evaluate them in the minors…or some crap. God I hate useless players, and for some reason we keep amassing them.
IS Clement still injured? I thought he was just hitting on Monday? Reinjured?
How close is Vidro to vesting his option?
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
by Montucky on
Jul 30, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
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Because Burke has a low ceiling and is not a long-term option for this club.
Vidro option will not vest.
by BrianL on
Jul 30, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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Crap, Ken Rosenthal is on to us!
Incentive for the Nationals to trade right-hander Tim Redding, left-hander Odalis Perez and any other veteran parts: A better chance at “earning” the No. 1 pick in next year’s draft and selecting San Diego State right-hander Stephen Strasburg. Strasburg, who recently turned 20, is the lone collegiate player on the U.S. Olympic team.
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
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No no no no no no no
You hang on to your players, Bowden. You hang on to your players and you like it.
by Jeff on
Jul 30, 2008 8:09 AM PDT
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Of course, if he wants to give us Ryan Zimmerman or Lastings Milledge.
I’d be fine with that. That’d be a weird trade. “The Nationals trade away their two best players for a promise from the Mariners for a PTBNL (Strasburg).”
by LantermanC on
Jul 30, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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Maybe we can dump our players onto the Nationals
Romanes eunt domus
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
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Three-way trade with Washington and New York
Washington gets Washburn and Raul, New York gets like $25 gift card to Starbucks and we get Brett Gardner and Ian Kennedy.
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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Oh yeah Cashman makes that deal in like 2 seconds
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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See, look how qualified I am to be a MLB GM - Cashman was the one I was worried wouldn't like the trade!
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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Cashman loves his venti carmel macchiatos
by Gomez on
Jul 30, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
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Maybe we should get him a $50 gift card then
so he can get one for his secretary cough administrative assistant cough too
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Fine, hold up, let me call him back
I thought we had a deal, but I guess we’re just going to have to draw it out for weeks and weeks before finally completing a deal identical to the original one
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So it's a non-fat Melky venti caramel macchiato and a $50 Cashman card to Starbucks
for a moderately used Washburn.
by Jed MC on
Jul 30, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
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Actually, that's a terrible trade for us huh
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by seattlebruin on
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Crap
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Wow, that's some pretty serious fail there...
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