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Maybe the angriest email I've ever written

Jenni Carlson, of the Oklahoman opined that Oklahoma City should "Pop the corks and celebrate!"

I took great offense, and wrote maybe the angriest email I've ever written.

Ms. Carlson,

I don't know who you are.  I don't know your writing, for I'd never read it until now.  I don't know what you stand for.  For all I know, you might be a very nice and a very well-meaning individual.  But, based on your column today, it's hard to believe that you're anything but scum.  So, you'll fit in nicely at the owner's box with Clay Bennett.

In your column, today, you wrote the following:

"The frustration is over."

Whose?  The Seattleites who cheered on this team for 42 years.  The millions of fans that poured their energy and their love out for a team that they truly cherished.  The same people who used their tax dollars to build an arena, then renovate it shortly thereafter, only to have that renovation become completely devalued 12 years later.  The same people who filled Key Arena 87% full in a completely lame duck season that featured only the joy of watching Kevin Durant mature.  The same people who watched a man buy their team, tell them he'd do one thing, and then turn around and do another.  No, Jenni, you're entirely wrong.  The frustration is just beginning.

You also wrote:

"Seattle keeps the team's name, colors and history."

Thanks.  Spencer Haywood's retired jersey will look awfully nice hanging from the Space Needle, which, by the way, is privately owned, and not used by many Washington taxpayers.  For another $75M and a really good hacksaw, this could be bought too.  Though, the base of it probably needs some renovation, which makes it the perfect candidate for a move.

And then, you had the gall to write:

"At times these past few months, it felt like we were stuck in purgatory. Either that, or the longest coaching search ever. We knew there eventually would be resolution, but there were times when a decision seemed far away."

Newsflash -- for the last few years, the city of Seattle has been not in purgatory, but in actual hell.  Kids who have grown up being Sonics fans have had their hearts pulled on, and twisted, and undervalued, and finally torn out.  Now you come right out and tell us that you guys down in OKC have had it rough?  Oh, I'm sorry.  Have you ever lost a professional sports team?  Didn't think so.  Let me know how it feels, when, in 20 years, after failing to fill whatever stadium Bennett builds, and then asks the city for hundreds of millions to renovate every three and a half years, the team packs its tent and moves again.  Seriously, for the longest time, people in Seattle have dreaded this day.  Inevitably, it had to come, because a lying, two-faced, arrogant prick named Clay Bennett used the same money that came out of our pockets when we bought his deliciously overpriced gasoline, to purchase the team that so many Seattleites deeply cared for.  Sooner than you could pop the cork from your champagne bottle, Bennett announced he'd move the team and strip the fans, who had devoted a good chunk of their lives, of something that, to them, meant an inconceivable amount.  Ever since, Seattle residents, Supersonics fans and loyalists have waited for this day like you wait for a missed period.

Sure, you're happy, and that's fine, I realize that.  You got yourself an NBA team.  Congratulations.  Go to the games.  Buy stuff.  Cheer.  But don't you think that fans of the now former Seattle Supersonics deserve something a wee bit more than to watch some reporter from a newspaper in OKC announce that there's a huge cocktail party celebrating that which has torn something from our insides that we'll never truly get back.

In the meantime, we'll keep watching the Seattle Mariners, arguably the worst team and the worst managed franchise in baseball.  Enjoy the Supersonics, I mean, whoops, whatever the hell you choose to name your newfound team.

Next time you witness someone lose something so precious to them and have it benefit you in the process, maybe you could do one (or both) of the following two things (for example a husband losing his wife of 42 years that happened to leave you a couple million dollars):

1) Give them something like 24 hours to grieve.  Is that asking too much?

2) Not trivialize their loss.  What, you mean OKC getting a team mean's someone else lost one?  No, that's not possible.

I'll never again read anything you write, unless you make it big, which, I suppose will never happen, given that nobody from Oklahoma ever does.  So, do what you want.  Be a malicious fool just as long as you feel like it.  I'd be willing to bet that I get over losing the Supersonics before you wise up to your ignorance.

Enjoy the new team.  May someone never snap it up from you as was just done on your behalf.

Cordially,

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Whoever negoiated the settlement for the city -

I have a much stronger desire to letterbomb you than I do Clay Bennett

by seattlebruin on Jul 3, 2008 1:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Greg Nickels?

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 3, 2008 1:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What did you expect them to get?

We all knew that was basically going to end in a cash settlement for breaking the lease.

by Edgar for Pres on Jul 3, 2008 9:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The city's smarter than they're being given credit for

They knew that keeping the Sonics wasn’t going to happen, so they made the best of a bad situation. Their options were basically pay for a new arena or get some cash and watch the team leave town; the city made the fiscally prudent move.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jul 3, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Given the circumstances, you're right.

But if they hadn’t blown the whole thing from the get-go, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball.

by acblue on Jul 3, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

On the list of people I'm pissed at, the city ranks far at the bottom.

I’m glad they didn’t cave and put up public funds to placate a terrorist owner (and I’m not using the term glibly, he/they were extorting the city). I wish something could have been worked out as part of a larger renovation package of Seattle Center, with the owners chipping in, but que sera sera.

Rationally, I’m not even that pissed at Schultz. Nor at Bennett. Emotionally, yes, but they were both acting in their best interests. I cannot logically blame Bennett for wanting a team in his home city. I can emtoinally blame him for being a complete dickhole about it though. I cannot logically blame Schultz for taking a horrendously overvalued offer for the Sonics. I can emotionally blame him for selling to a non-local group though.

Really, the person I blame is David Stern. Fuck you David Stern. You are the one who is supposed to look for basketball’s best interests.

by Matthew on Jul 3, 2008 11:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Stern definitely deserves the lion's share of the blame.

I am rationally pissed at the city government, but their handling of this particular issue is just another item on the list of reasons why.

As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball.

by acblue on Jul 3, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah,

not really their only showing of incompetence.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 3, 2008 10:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I felt like city could have gotten more money out of them

and like all the pundits were saying, time was the best weapon the city had against them. Bennett had no desire to wait two more years to get a team to OKC and I think he would have sold had he been forced to stay in Seattle. I mean obviously, we’d just be dumping our problem onto someone else (hi Grizzlies!) but it would have been nice to see the team stay. Now even if they get another team, it won’t be quite the same without Durant and Green, and Presti, and I was really excited to see Russ wear a Sonics uniform.

by seattlebruin on Jul 4, 2008 12:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll let you use my postage meter here at work.

It will be harder for them to track that way.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 3, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You realize she writes for the enemy?

That is almost like saying, “Don’t be gloat that the Yankees won the ALCS for your newspaper because us Mariners fans need at least a day to grieve.” I am not saying that I am for the Sonics moving or think this lady is a tactful writer, I am just saying she is obviously biased for Oklahoma City, what do you expect her to write? It’d be awesome if she wrote about how maybe Clay Bennett and David Stern didn’t use the right measures, or threw ethics out of the window when moving this team, but I think most people are too close-minded to see that, especially someone writing for the enemy.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 3, 2008 1:09 AM PDT   1 recs

This is WAY different than another team winning a series over your team

All I was asking was for her to not be a callous individual. I was trying to be nice. I ended it with cordially.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jul 3, 2008 1:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's human nature

to want to celebrate something so eagerly anticipated.

Similiarly, if she were standing in front of me speaking those words instead of writing them, I’d want to shoot her in the face.

It’s science.

by Omerta on Jul 3, 2008 1:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Jenni Carlson

is the writer who wrote the article that caused Oklahoma St. coach Mike Gundy to flip out. (I’m a man! I’m 40!) She is not known for her tact. If you remember, the main basis for her belief that the QB was “soft” was that his mom gave him a chicken sandwich after a game.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 3, 2008 5:58 AM PDT   0 recs

Which was hilarious

also her Donovan Reid article was pretty terrible too and I don’t blame Gundy one bit for going apeshit over it.

by seattlebruin on Jul 4, 2008 12:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good e-mail

She probably won’t read it, or respond, but well put. This has just been a horrible couple of days.

I am still in shock that our mayor agreed to a settlement. Everything he said about “not in it for the money” was just lies. Does this leave us with the best chance of getting an NBA team? No. We’re not promised one. In fact I could argue it will be unlikely—although at this point I’m done with the NBA (still in angry mode, obviously). If another team comes, I could eventually learn to enjoy them… but at the moment I can’t see it happening.

This was the worst possible outcome. A settlement. A fucking settlement. This pushes back Howard Shultz’s case to 2009—and even though he is one of the biggest reasons we lost the team, his lawsuit actually had a shot. If the city won or lost their trial, the Schultz lawsuit could go foward. Now? It’s pushed back a year and I’m pretty sure it’s going to be really hard (impossible) to move the team again. I just don’t see it.

by AtomicGarden on Jul 3, 2008 7:44 AM PDT   0 recs

I can't wait for next season

I am going front row for the OKC game in Portland, regardless the cost. These motherfuckers are going to feel my wrath.

And I don’t even LIKE the Sonics.

by Garces on Jul 3, 2008 8:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Here is what I hope happens

That Schultz wins his lawsuit, which is being ignored by Bennett, and the moving vans have to turn around and come home. Winning the lease lawsuit would have been nice but getting the team back is what we all want.

And if that doesn’t happen I can’t wait for Durrant to leave and sign with the Mavs in a couple years when he becomes a free agent.

those really are my initials

by BS Nelly on Jul 3, 2008 8:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Mickey Mantle came out of Oklahoma

The exception that proves the rule.

by TheEmrys on Jul 3, 2008 8:50 AM PDT   0 recs

Brad Penny.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 3, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wouldn't Jeff argue that this doesn't prove the premise wrong?

I guess it depends on what you mean by “making it big.”

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 5, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, talk about being an idiot...

You see, it always comes down to having no perspective and no class.

She might have the Sonics, but she also has being a moron for the rest of her life.

by lyleleander on Jul 3, 2008 9:07 AM PDT   0 recs

I'm a Rangers fan and I'm from OKC...

...so you probably hate me already… but I just wanted to join you in the fact we ALL hate Jenni Carlson. I am really excited about the NBA fanchise coming to OKC, but I do understand how crappy the situation is to you all.

I all fairness – Schultz is the boozer who screwed you… should have never sold it to a guy from Oklahoma who was just recently involved in the Hornets deal.

Someday I will become a RangerMAN!

by RangerBoy on Jul 3, 2008 10:25 AM PDT   0 recs

Meh, it's the wrong time, but he wasn't being an asshole about it

I’m sure the people of OKC weren’t hoping that this would be the way that they got an NBA team

by seattlebruin on Jul 4, 2008 12:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He wasn't being an asshole,

but I don’t need his dirty sympathy. Plus, he is just wrong. Schultz is not the only person who screwed us in this deal.

by brayden04 on Jul 6, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So, not to be a dick here or anything, as I know this was written out of anger...

...but you were fine until the “missed period” thing. That sort of emotional, ad hominem attack doesn’t help your case at all. There was plenty of weight behind the actual issues you brought up.

As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball.

by acblue on Jul 3, 2008 1:13 PM PDT   0 recs

That wasn't an ad hominem attack.

That was to say that fans of the Seattle Supersonics appreciated a day such as yesterday in the same way any woman, be it Jenni Carlson, or anyone else, appreciates a day in which she misses a period.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jul 3, 2008 1:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you pretty obviously implied something else.

As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball.

by acblue on Jul 3, 2008 1:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree.

I hadn’t even thought of it, honestly, until a friend of mine was like, “you know, this could be taken in that way”.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jul 3, 2008 2:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess that's more what I meant.

I didn’t necessarily mean that I thought you mean to imply such a thing, just that I felt you could have chosen your words better. Like I said, though, it was written in anger, and such things happen.

As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball.

by acblue on Jul 3, 2008 2:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably true.

I wrote this in ~15 minutes, at apparently 3:30 am, so I didn’t give it a ton of revision.

At the time, I liked the line and found it somewhat snarky. In retrospect, I probably could have gone with something classier. Not like she’ll actually read this, or care, for that matter.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jul 3, 2008 3:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I liked it too.

And although Aaron’s probably right about it knocking your classy argument down some, I think the punch it packed made up some ground for you.

Thus, the post is rec’d.

10 schillings to the first guy to blow the cover of my alt.

by butthol on Jul 4, 2008 7:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

I also get glad when someone really tries to put it to those Oklahoma City fuckers

by mariners23 on Jul 4, 2008 9:41 AM PDT   0 recs

My question is, what is the city going to do with the $75 million?

I want to see every penny be accounted for.

And what the money should go toward is a new stadium to attract the NHL. If the NBA decides to come back, make them pay even more.

If the mayor of Seattle is getting any sort of kickback from this deal, he needs to be burned at the stake.

by Wilder. on Jul 4, 2008 12:43 PM PDT   0 recs

Most of it goes towards the last two years of the contract the Sonics had...then the rest is to pay off the debt of Key Arena.

That’s the best they could do…get it paid off and buy out the lease. Someone else can add more information if they know more.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 4, 2008 2:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, good.

Paying off debt is a better idea.

by Wilder. on Jul 5, 2008 5:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sonics Fans:

I feel your pain. I waited for two years while Oklahoma City “hosted” my Hornets. Those bastards are scum of the worst kind and never even tried to hide the fact that they had no intention of returning our team. The Jokelahoman ran daily articles on how terrible a city New Orleans is and how the Hornets wanted to stay and would be so much better off.

Also, the Jokelahoman is routinely regarded by literary and journalistic critics as the worst major daily newspaper in the United States. It is owned by a Christian conservative who uses to paper to push his agenda.

In summation, fuck Oklahoma, fuck Oklahoma City, and fuck everyone who lives there.

by thewyrm on Jul 4, 2008 5:45 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes.

They are so evil for desperately wanting a major professional sports team, and clearly assholes for having better attendance than either the Sonics in Seattle or the Hornets in New Orleans pre-flood. What a bunch of jerks.

I mean it’s not like New Orleans had themselves just stolen the Hornets from Charlotte. And it isn’t as if they had craptastic attendance for two of the three years after the Hornets arrived. It definitely isn’t like Oklahoma City has been petitioning every major sport every time an expansions or moves have been declared to move them there.

In summary, go fuck yourself.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 5, 2008 1:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kthnx.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 6, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ya know, there's a reason I only responded to the New Orleans guy.

You guys in Seattle genuinely got screwed over by just about everybody involved, and if you’re mad, I can’t blame you. That was your franchise and it got taken away from you for reasons that weren’t your fault. You want to take that out on Oklahoma? Fine. I give you a permanent GTE pass on that one.

But I’ll be damned before I let someone from NO talk about us like that. Not only did they steal a franchise from another city, they treated that franchise like dirt for three years. Then talk about moving the team someplace else starts and suddenly its “O shit deyz gonna steal r teem!” What happened with Katrina sucked, and they didn’t deserve it, but I’ll be damned before I let them talk about what horrible people we are for stealing someone else’s franchise.

So no, fuck you. I’m standing my ground on this.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, I misread his post.

I thought he brought up that tired “Seattle doesn’t deserve a team because nobody came to watch a dismantled team” argument.

by BrianL on Jul 8, 2008 7:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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