Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Jerry Sandusky's Wife Tries To Run A Reporter Over

40-65

Let's face it; all anyone really wants to hear about this game is how Felix did. So with that in mind...

It would be easy to glance at Felix's final line and think "okay, so he was mediocre." Four runs and four walks in six laborious innings isn't anything special, and certainly not cause for celebration. A decent start, but still a step back from his recent stretch of unparalleled awesomeness.

However, dig a little deeper and you'll find that, all things considered, he actually had a heck of a game. For one thing, the temperature at first pitch was hovering right around 100 degrees. I don't know if you've ever exerted yourself in triple-digit heat, but it's not very comfortable, and you can wear yourself out in a right proper hurry. That Felix made it all the way to 112 pitches - hitting 96 in his final at bat - is nothing short of incredible.

For another thing, the Ranger starting lineup featured six left-handed hitters, and added a seventh in Frank Catalanotto after Michael Young jammed his finger. Felix is awesome and all, but being a righty with an inconsistent changeup and occasionally spotty fastball command, lefties have always given him trouble, and they require a little more effort to retire on his part than your typical righty. So right off the bat this matchup didn't really play into his hands. The Rangers have a bitchin' offense, and given that it's predominantly opposite-handed, it can make righties want to crawl into a hole and die. Felix knew from the get-go that he'd be fighting an enemy entrenched in an elevated position.

On top of that, Arlington's a bandbox, especially when the weather's so warm. We saw a bunch of fly balls carry like a motherfucker tonight, including LaHair's home run, and Beltre's first. I don't know if those fly balls leave any other ballpark, but tonight, in Texas, in 100-degree heat, they took off. So you can understand if Felix was a little extra wary pitching around the zone.

And finally, even with all of those built-in excuses, Felix's performance just wasn't as mediocre as his pitching line would suggest. More telling than the four walks is that he threw 63% strikes - above-average - and had another eight pitches in the strike zone called balls by HP umpire Tom Hallion. He generated 12 swinging strikes, all against left-handed hitters, and whiffed six of the 29 batters he faced. And of the 19 balls the Rangers put in play, 11 were grounders and two were infield pop-ups. So the BIP distribution was right where you'd like it to be. Really, aside from a missed location here and there, it's hard to find too many things about which to complain.

Felix threw the ball well tonight. He threw 38 pitches at or above 96mph, he missed bats, he stayed around the zone, and he kept the ball on ground, and he did all of this despite having to deal with sizzling conditions in an active launchpad. I don't see any reason to be anything less than thoroughly satisfied with his performance. Thumbs up, Felix. Good to see you improve on your start against Boston. You weren't perfect, but considering the lineup and environment made for as tough a game as you'll see all season, you did a hell of a job, and I applaud you for it.

A shame about the W, though. But by now I guess you're probably used to that.

7_28_08_medium

Biggest Contribution: King Awesome, +37.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Jeremy Reed, -20.2%
Most Important AB: Beltre homer, +23.0%
Most Important Pitch: Murphy DP, +18.1% (Johjima pick-off: +27.8%)
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +4.6%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +45.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)

  • In Win Expectancy terms, Kenji's snap-throw down to third base to nab Ramon Vazquez was the single most important play of the game, and that doesn't even take into consideration the fact that the man at the plate was Josh flipping Hamilton. Kenji's been one of our heaviest anchors all season long, but tonight he hit three line drives and made a spectacular throw, so it's nice to see some signs of life, however fleeting. I can't make sense of how quickly he's fallen off, and so I like to take games like this as an indication that maybe - just maybe - he might still have a little something left in the tank.
  • And we all better freaking hope he does because oh my god three more years
  • Brandon Morrow's finally going through the strike rate regression that we all probably knew was coming when he started out on such a tear. After throwing 67% strikes over his first 30 appearances, he's dropped to 56% over his last nine, and while I don't by any means think it's a sign of significant trouble, it does serve as a valuable reminder that he's still a work in progress, and that he'll only ever be as good as his control allows him to be. Turning him into a starter won't be as easy as simply dropping him into a game and not taking him out until he's thrown 100 pitches. He needs to improve his offspeed stuff to combat tough lefties, and he needs to refine his command so that he can actually get through five and six innings on a consistent basis. I know it'll be hard, considering some of the overpowering strikeouts we all have etched in our memories, but in the event that the team ever does finally try to stretch him out, be patient. The transition won't happen overnight. 
  • It would be easy to call Beltre's first inning home run a bit of a joke, but considering all the bad luck he's been experiencing for the past four months, he earned those four bases, God dammit. I know this isn't how regression works, but you talk about a guy who deserves like nine or ten consecutive bloop base hits.
  • Bryan LaHair's home run was a joke (he hasn't earned it). That was just a product of the ballpark. However, that said, between the homer, the single, and the walk, LaHair just had the night of his life, and I hope he's taking every opportunity to savor it. Because ten years from now, the memories of tonight will be all he has left when he reminisces about how he never got enough respect over drinks with Rico Brogna. Bryan, I'd love for you to prove me wrong about your projection. I just don't think you're capable.
  • Jeremy Reed is almost out of chances. This guy just refuses to seize any opportunity to carve out a Major League career. Melky Cabrera sure would look good right about now.

Comment 149 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

That has to be one of the crazier charts of the year.
...when he reminisces about how he never got enough respect over drinks with Rico Brogna

bwhahaha

Good God could we use a player like Rico Brogna right now… >:(

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 28, 2008 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

As someone who grew up in 110 degree heat

It is oppressive hot even if you’re used to it. Walk a mile or ride a bike a couple miles and it destroys you. Shit, it can destroy you even if you’re sitting down doing nothing. I may give the Las Vegas 51’s shit for sucking, but I’ll never give them shit for their manhood, given they play a lot of games in that Vegas heat. Tucson’s Sidewinders too. Even if the sun’s going down, it’s still hot until the sun is all the way down.

by Gomez on Jul 28, 2008 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I

the only fucking person in the world that worries about Felix’s arm and sliders? STOP. Your curve is brutal. Your fastball is killer. Your slider is killing your arm. Nolan Ryan can tell you, as he’s said in articles I’m too lazy to find.

by kevin_ess on Jul 28, 2008 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Depends on how many of them he throws

If 1/3rd of his pitches are sliders, then yeah, I’d be worried. If he’s mixing it in every so often with his other 3 pitches, then not so much.

by Gomez on Jul 28, 2008 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not too concerned

He doesn’t throw all that many sliders anyway, really.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 28, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's amazing how many people ignore this.

My dad and I were talking about the best pitchers in their prime. I brought up late-90s Pedro, and he countered with Ryan. I explained that Nolan lacked good control and this hampered him but too many people are “OMG stikeouts!”

Obviously Ryan was a good pitcher with fantastic stuff, but my dad actually was comparing him to Pedro is his prime.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 29, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd have to know league home run rates for his period

before I could really tell how good he was because he did run a HR rate about 0.5 per 9 but in some pretty helpful parks and times.

He strikes me as an above average pitcher, nothing more, who happened to throw forever.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: "He strikes me as an above average pitcher, nothing more, who happened to throw forever."

And that’s INCREDIBLY valuable.

People always claim that Ryan’s value was related to K’s, or just how awesome he was, and that’s wrong. But that doesn’t mean that Ryan wasn’t incredibly valuable.

Above average plus throws forever means he probably added more value than plenty of hall-of-famers. Again, this is a totally different argument, and claiming Ryan’s peak should be in the same paragraph as Pedro’s peak is lunacy, but I think the pendulum has swung a bit far the other way in regards to Nolan.

by marc w on Jul 29, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I love Nolan Ryan because the man was an absolute freak when it came to durability. And, as JI has pointed out, he was at his best after he turned 40.

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 29, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW,

I never claimed it wasn’t.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs to the rescue

From 1974 to 1993, Ryan posted a WPA/LI of 28.13. Since we don’t have enough data to caluculate WPA/LI from 68-73, his career totals are a bit deflated, as his ‘72 and ‘73 seasons were excellent. But even without those years, he ran a career average WPA/LI of about 1.5 per season.

+1.5 wins above average, excluding two years where he was remarkably awesome. In reality, he’s probably closer to +2.0 wins above average per year for his career.

I think Ryan gets a pretty bad rap sometimes. His career FIP is 2.96. The walks sucked, but the home run prevention and strikeouts more than made up for it.

by davidcameron on Jul 29, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

WPA to evaluate a pitcher?

Aren’t you running afoul of having defense factored in?

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

WPA/LI

Not WPA. They’re different.

And yes, we’d have to extract out defense if we were comparing Ryan’s value to, say, a position player, but since we’re comparing him to all pitchers (and we can make a fairly safe assumption that he didn’t have great defenses behind him for 25 consecutive years), it’s not a big enough issue to change the conclusion.

by davidcameron on Jul 29, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Obviously his HR rates were clearly well above league average even in the depressed offensive era.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always compared Pedro to Babe Ruth.

Just to let people know I’m serious.

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 29, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still can't get over the year Pedro put up a 1.74 ERA when the league avg was 5.07

291 ERA+!

Also that year he had a 13.2 K/g and a 1.5 BB/G.

Yes please.

I know ERA is very very flawed but dear God.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 29, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Incorrect.

As Graham can attest, there’s little known correlations from mechanics to pitcher injuries. There’s no evidence that Felix’s slider is hurting his arm. Furthermore, he doesn’t throw that many sliders anyways. Finally, Felix’s fastball is not killer. Not until he learns to command it.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of obvious question then, but

so the only thing that we know contributes to pitcher injuries at this point is overuse?

The Jose Lopez Watch - 124H - 14 BB - 58 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Overuse and pitching while hurt.

There are quite a few major injuries that occur because pitchers pitched through a minor injury.

Surely, mechanics contribute to injuries. There’s just no way to tell which mechanics contribute in which way and be able to apply that to a particular individual.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm
Rival executives report that there is some anger within the Seattle hierarchy about the way the negotiations with the Yankees for Jarrod Washburn have played out publicly, and an NL executive who has been in contact with the Mariners on Monday says he wouldn’t be surprised if Seattle works to deliver the lefty to another team, even if it means swallowing many dollars. The Yankees have made it clear that they are willing to take Washburn’s contract - he is still owed about $14 million for the rest of this year and next - but won’t give up a major prospect. The teams generally in the market for starting pitchers have been the Cardinals and Rockies.

The Jose Lopez Watch - 124H - 14 BB - 58 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2008 6:30 AM PDT reply actions  

With our FO doing shit like this

how on earth did the Bedard deal EVER get done?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 29, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look what we offered.

Revenge of '96: STOP THE CHOP

by JI on Jul 29, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, the above subthread sucks.

Everyone just stop. There’s little or no point in continuing.

by Matthew on Jul 29, 2008 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

In the spirit of getting things back on topic...

Small sample size, but Jeff Clement seems to be hitting the ball hard lately but doesn’t have a whole lot to show for it. Is it just me, or has he been rather unlucky?

by BrianL on Jul 29, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

The Jose Lopez Watch - 124H - 14 BB - 58 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

How worried?

Probably not too much

The Jose Lopez Watch - 124H - 14 BB - 58 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but not overly so.

Clement has a history of taking forever to adjust to new levels.

by Graham MacAree on Jul 29, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, and yet the slowness will impact his peak value and

career production.

You’ve got the sexiness, that’s big – I’m not discounting that. But maybe we need to know how much sexiness we’d trade for a given level/increment of production.

by marc w on Jul 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I closed this thing and notice that something is hidden.

I hope that I am not missing a time to either defend myself or make reasonable arguments.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 29, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

You're not

The Jose Lopez Watch - 124H - 14 BB - 58 G Left

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear it.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 29, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've missed a ton of games recently by being out of town/drunk.

What is going on with Reed? He looked pretty good when they first called him up.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 29, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

No power, no average, no glove?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 29, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe this isn't the best place to ask this, but since you work for the guys...

can you tell me what happened to RZR between 2005 and 2006?

Jeremy Reed basically led MLB in RZR in CF in 2005, but his RZR value would basically make him the worst CF regular in baseball this year.

Or take RF – Ichiro led the league in 2005 with a .725 RZR, and was the only regular above .700. This year, NOBODY is below .800 and most are above .900. Pat Burrell’s 2008 RZR would’ve made him the #1 LF in the league in 2005 by 139 points! The top end of the scale moved like 250 points over all in LF! What the hell?

Clearly, the zones shrank, and you can see that in increased OOZ plays now. But, as far as I can tell, nothing happened to the IF zones. Is that basically right? Got a handy overview of these changes?

by marc w on Jul 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

By reading a game thread of your own volition you agree to accept all liability for any and all damage done to your delicate sensibilities.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Moar_bacon_small
Everything I Know About Jesus Montero

Recent FanPosts

Wbc_029_small
Friday Morning Music Thread
Small
OTDOD - Early February Edition
Agentejebaox3_small
A Statistical Analysis of Mariners' Fan Support
Small
Who will have a better season?
Claw_small
BA's Top 10 M's Prospects
Wbc_029_small
Friday Morning Music Thread
Small
Munenori Kawasaki Predictions!!!
Small
The Longevity and Future Success of Felix Hernandez.
Small
The present vs future conundrum

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Sexy People

Wbc_029_small Jeff Sullivan

Small Matthew