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7/27: Open Game Thread

Wbc_029_tiny by Jeff Sullivan on in Seattle Mariners Game Threads

Seattle Mariners at Toronto Blue Jays, Jul 27, 2008 10:07 AM PDT


Lineup

Seattle Mariners @ Toronto Blue Jays

07/27/08 10:07 AM PDT

Seattle Mariners Toronto Blue Jays
Ichiro Suzuki - RF David Eckstein - DH
Jose Vidro - "DH" Marco Scutaro - 2B
Raul Ibanez - "LF" Alex Rios - CF
Adrian Beltre - 3B Lyle Overbay - 1B
Jose Lopez - 2B Rod Barajas - C
Jeremy Reed - CF Adam Lind - LF
Kenji Johjima - C Scott Rolen - 3B
Bryan LaHair - 1B Kevin Mench - RF
Yuniesky Betancourt - "SS" John McDonald - SS


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jarrod Washburn 4-9 20 19 1 0 1 0 110.0 131 61 58 13 32 65 4.75 1.48

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Shaun Marcum 5-4 16 16 0 0 0 0 103.1 80 38 35 14 30 89 3.05 1.06

As I write this around dinnertime on Saturday, who the hell knows if Washburn'll actually be getting the start? This is about as lame duck as it gets. If he does take the mound one final time as a Mariner, I'd pay good money to see him get ripped apart and taken out of the game by Kenji Johjima, who approaches him holding a Yankee jersey and a switchblade. Be it tonight, tomorrow, or in a couple of days - good riddance, Jarrod. I will forever cherish that one memory we share together, the one where I sat here grinning like an idiot and your ass got traded.

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You've earned it, Dave.

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That.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Somebody (maybe you?) posted a link to the video clip of The Double in the Trade Rumor thread yesterday

I played that thing 30 times.

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just played it again.

It made me happy.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

*typo

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This game thread is hoppin' dude.

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

That clip makes me happy

for it, if only for a moment, makes me forget this year

by IceStormV1 on Jul 27, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Is there a link to Niehaus' acceptance speech?

That would be so much more entertaining than listening to the game.

by thewyrm on Jul 27, 2008 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Jose Vidro. Designated Hitter. #2 Hole.

So much to say about that. So many jokes to crack.

But they’ve all been made already because this shit has been going on all season long.

sigh

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, a hit.

Woo. Huzzah. Cheer. Hurrah.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Yay for increasing of Raul's trade value

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 27, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

And now AB will strike out on a pitch well outside the zone

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Unbelievable.

Raul Ibanez out at third? WTF is Gameday telling me here?

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait, now I get it. Nevermind

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, right here, Jarrod Washburn will tear his labrum.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Link?

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. More than that, it looks like his career is more or less over.

What can you do in baseball without a labrum?

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ask Jeff Bagwell

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

When did his go to hell?

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow he will still win the GG this year.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 27, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Technicallity.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Jul 27, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least Jarrod is trying to avoid injury

by throwing so softly. No need to over-extend himself.

by katal on Jul 27, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

88mph down the middle?

Is this game Washburn’s middle finger farewell to Seattle?

What, he always does this? I hate this guy.

by Jordan of Boise on Jul 27, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Know who gets a hit here, Yuni?

Someone with an OPS that’s above .630

by katal on Jul 27, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't know

They could finalize the deal at any minute, then ask Washburn while he’s in the dugout if he will accept his no-trade clause. They can pull him from the game the moment he agrees.

by katal on Jul 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

But things haven't been agreed to yet

As long as the deal isn’t finalized, they’ll have him play. If they sat him, it would only raise flags in NY (“Is he hurt?” etc).

by katal on Jul 27, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Yankees wanted to see him pitch one more time?

Stranger things have happened.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a silly out

Most of the team hates road trips because Yuni always makes them watch The Wiggles during the plane rides.

Romanes eunt domus

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Dave Niehaus deserves one more playoff run.

Perhaps he can do some Rays games. I put on my old 20th Anniversary CD in Dave’s honor this morning. We are lucky to have such a great and enthusiastic voice tied to this clubs shitty and awesome beginnings.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

At least we have this.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always wonder why the colors seem so washed out.

Either the TV quality wasn’t as good, or (and this is my theory), the past is slowly turning into a warm, glowing sepia tone before our very eyes.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kingdome was dark a dreary

like a gross movie theatre

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

*and

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

That and gif is an ancient and shitty format.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is a terrible call.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Which call?

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Endy Chavez hit a 19 hopper up the firstbase line

didn’t come within 5 feet of the bag (literally, not making this up) Pujols tagged him, and he was called safe.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

C'Mon Wash.

You can’t regress now…we’ve come so far….

by ThundaPC on Jul 27, 2008 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

MLBTradeRumors

Says the M’s rejected an Igawa/Cabrera package for Washburn..

Who is Lee holding out for, Austin Jackson, Phil Huges, Jeter?

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Note that MLBTradeRumors is usually utterly full of shit.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Besides

I’d rather have a Pelekoudas, who holds out for a lot, than a Bavasi.

by katal on Jul 27, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

If true that's dumb

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

[facepalm]

fuck Carlos Beltran

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Jose is the only one trying

day in and day out.. not sure if I admire that..

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Lopez?

Bless Loafie’s heart.

by Gomez on Jul 27, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that was a try.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

That doesnt bother me

Lopez walk, Reed XBH.. scoring the run would have been too much good fortune

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eckstein, DH

bwhahahaha

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I voted for the young Dave

but it looks like fat Dave won.

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 27, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

DO SOMETHING

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Betancourt makes the worse contact

of any player in the league, when ahead in the count

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Haha Washburn gave up a homer to John McDonald.

GIVE US YOUR BEST PROSPECTS!

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Non-surprised face.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is winning?

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Padres are winning. San Diego is winning.

Or I would think.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grahammer

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except with an A instead of an E on the end there

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no possible way the M's can out-suck the Nationals.

Look upon the Nats’ play during the past four games and despair.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

BWHAHAHAHAHA

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

SLAAAAAAAAAM PIIIIIIIIGGG

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Whoa.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Fuck

That means more Vidro.

by IceStormV1 on Jul 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit, Jose Vidro HOMERED AGAIN?

I’m taking crazy pills here.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

TRADE VALUE...RISING....

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Where's that -U pic?

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, because I have that link at hand.

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Walks don't count as ABs

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Niehaus award on the MLB cast now

by Smith18 on Jul 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Runs?

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Tough day at the office for Marcum..

2 Lopez walks
Turbo bomb
Reed XBH
Kenji XBH
3 ball count to Yuni

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Who is doing the play by play on FSN right now?

The voice sounds so familiar, he used to do an old Playstation game that I had. I can’t put my finger on it though.

by uwbradley on Jul 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Three balls, too.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

How did he strike out on those three pitches

Gameday shows all three way out of the zone.. wow, new SS please

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Mike Blowers and Rick Rizzs mentioned by Dave at HOF

closest they will ever get.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

That AB explains the Riggleman=Yuni convo two days ago

Riggle: You’re getting the day off
Yuni: It’s okay coach, I want to play
Riggle: Im not doin u a favor, u stink, you’re not playing

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I like this pic because it's versatile.

You can use it against Graham too.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to sound like a jerk, but you're not allowed to use "u" as a word on Lookout Landing.

Complete words please.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used "U" in a text message the other day because I just didn't have any time to write it out.

I felt dirty for an hour afterwards.

[shudder]

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't use punctuation, merely because I just don't friggin' know where those buttons are on my new phone.

Some people can write text messages in light-speed. I sit there and tap ‘em out like a turtle.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am now unable to write texts without the use of my apostrophe character.

Life was so much simpler before LL

I would do cartwheels over my name written in sand

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

TRADE VALUE...RISING...

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Man, that Niehaus thing was awesome

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I'll have to watch it later.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it'll be on the MLB site.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

TRADE TRADE TRADE

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only problem with these various Jeff photoshops is the font/wording.

C’mon, people, we can do better!

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I like it.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also: SMALLER

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

*beartre

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something tells me this Washburn outing..

will have Pelekoudas thinking he can demand a grade A prospect..

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Washburn sure makes them put the ball in play for the most part.

But he’s pitched pretty decently. Perfect time to string together a bunch of good ‘results’ starts.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 27, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Things that make me happy in baseball this season:

1.) The Rays
2.) The Brewers
3.) Mussina
4.) King Felix

That is all, really.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

No No No

He’s over 90 pitches. don’t bring him back out. you’ll ruin his trade value

by IceStormV1 on Jul 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey guess what guys? Randy Wolf isn't a very good pitcher after all!

4-1 Brewers over Astros. Ryan Braun just hit his 28th home run. Kid is intense.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Ryan Braun is a fucktard

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Braun is better than Albert Pujols.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

(If you ever become a moderator, I'm royally fucked)

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is so ridiculously good so consistently that people are beginning to ignore him

Honestly, it’s a shame. He’s taken some bad cuts lately (he looks like he might be hurt), but he’s still putting up an MVP-worthy campaign this year.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's back on fire again.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet he doesn't have a chance of winning the MVP, even if the Cards make the playoffs

I think the Barry Bonds experience in the National League tired the idiot voters out so much that now they consciously look for someone “new” to give the award to each year whenever possible. In their view it’s just no fun if the same guy wins it every time.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

If the Cards make the playoffs he’s a lock for MVP because, Jesus, what a terrible rotation. He’s basically having Edgar Martinez’s 1995 + GG defense.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not about merit. On merit Pujols would deserve it.

It’s about the silly predilections of the voters. I get the sense that the national media is frankly bored with Pujols’ effortless dominance.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, see Howard, Ryan

I just don’t know who else you’d give it to since the MVP has to come from a good team.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Utley, Braun, Sabathia (who knows?), I dunno.

I just am hearing NO BUZZ AT ALL about Pujols even though he’s mashing again this year, carrying the entire team on his back more or less (Glaus, Ludwick and Ankiel all help), and doing it all with serious injuries to boot.

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it could be worse. Apparently a lot of people think K-Rod is the frontrunner for AL Cy Young

Which makes me want to spit blood.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

His peripherals are nosediving.

I will laugh heartily when he signs a bloated FA contract with some stupid team.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, not exactly Rick Ankiel is having an MVP caliber season

and Ludwick is a tick below that threshold.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said that they were all helping out.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a far cry from 2006.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was so happy to see the Cards win in 2006.

Just rub it in the AL’s faces. “BUT THEY ONLY WON 83 GAMES WAAAHHH!” Yeah, well they undressed the Tigers.

And I agree with you about your favorite-ever GIF. It was a magical moment.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell is with the Tacoma News Tribune.

damn thing has sucked since the second Mike Sando left. Now I go to the site and get 100 popups blocked notification from firefox.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Anybody see the Beltran catch? What a robbery.

And damn Fernando Tatis. That dude is raking, thus driving down the need for Raul.

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

fuck you

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know who really sucks as a closer? Ryan Franklin

And yet he’s probably better than Jason Isringhausen.

I would hate to root for a team whose starters can only regularly go 5 or 6 innings.

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Rosenthal:
The New York Yankees have made an offer to the Seattle Mariners for left-hander Jarrod Washburn.

According to a major-league source, the package includes an average prospect, plus the absorption of nearly all of the money remaining on Washburn’s contract.

But as of noon ET Sunday, with Washburn scheduled to pitch at 1:07 p.m. against the Toronto Blue Jays, no deal had been reached.

The Mariners spoke to Washburn Friday on about waiving his no-trade clause to the Yankees. The escalation in trade talks since then indicates that the pitcher is willing to pitch in New York. But at the moment, the Mariners want more than the Yankees are willing to give.

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll drive Vidro there

but If we have to stop at Burger King, I’m not paying the bill.

by IceStormV1 on Jul 27, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's merely decent

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be awesome simply based on the fact, every Yankee fan

Ive spoked to, just laughs at the notion they would give up Melky.

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

Igawa is fucking terrible and we’d be stuck with him until 2011. Even more years of a crappy pitcher I hate on this team? No thanks. Get the salary relief and be done with it.

by OlSalty on Jul 27, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So?

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we'd be paying a AAA player 4 million a year until 2011

I don’t agree with trading one problem for another. It might be less of a problem than Washburn, but it’s still a problem.

by OlSalty on Jul 27, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you're not saving as much as if you just let the Yankees cover the whole salary

I just think we could do better with that money if someone smart is running the team.

Plus I don’t think it was mentioned in that rumor whether the Yankees would cover 100% of Washburn’s salary along with Igawa/Melky. All I heard was that they offered Igawa/Melky for him and we declined, maybe we turned it down because they weren’t offering to take that salary in that original deal.

by OlSalty on Jul 27, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I LOVE DAVE

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 27, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

JJ closing? nice!

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

If he's not traded by July 31st.

I want it done too, but as long as it gets done eventually.

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 27, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eww

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 27, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Hooray JJ!

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

We win?

I fucking hate you Ryan Franklin.

by JI on Jul 27, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Sadly, yes.

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by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Epically wrong.

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 27, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck we won. :(

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jul 27, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

But Washburn pitched well.

TRADE HIM TO THE YANKEES NOW LEE! NOW! DO IT NOW!

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 27, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually that is great news this only strengthens our position for the trade.

I was thinking the SSS.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jul 27, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha..You should see the one from the other day.

The fans are calling out his name during the game, like they do every position player, and the players usually just wave a hand to acknowledge. Melky decides to acknowledge the crowd as the ball in in play and rolling to him (single up the middle). So he turns away and waves to the fans, and the ball hits his glove and bounces into right center, and the runner goes to second.

Despite that, he’s probably one of the Top 10 or so CF guys (defensively) in the majors this yr

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone fill me in on what metrics you guys use for defense?

Are the HBT in zone and out of zone rankings considered crap by you guys?

by DarkLou on Jul 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whole picture

+/-
PMR
UZR
RZR + OOZ

And, of course, more than one year of data.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 27, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

And watching

but this gets tricky when you’re dealing with non-Mariners.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAAAAVVVVVEEEEEE!!!!

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 27, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh Dave

I can already tell I’m going to get teary.

If your life had a face, I'd punch it in the balls.

by royalcurve on Jul 27, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I was right.

If your life had a face, I'd punch it in the balls.

by royalcurve on Jul 27, 2008 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

...I was expecting more....epic.

Oh well. Congrats Dave.

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 27, 2008 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Man, Washburn has been so effective,

the Yanks should give us that AAA outfielder as well.

by LantermanC on Jul 27, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Nomar Garciaparra just landed on his back

maybe their is still a chance they’ll want Yuni.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 27, 2008 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Well they traded for Blake

and gave up a better package than he was worth so who knows. Probably depends upon how hurt Nomar ends up being. I think they’ll go for McDonald though.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 27, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

NY Radio Report?

A friend just called me from NY and said that the Yanks have added Phil Coke along with Cabrara and are just waiting for physicals to complete the trade. Is there any confrimation from this end or just more bronx smoke?

(no mention of what’s his name DH)

by jaketrash on Jul 27, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

What

FanShots are underrated.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 27, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

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