Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Toronto Blue Jays
Seattle: 38-63
Blue Jays: 51-51
GAMES
Game 1: Miguel Batista vs John Parrish*
Game 2: Carlos Silva vs David Purcey*
Game 3: Jarrod Washburn* vs Shaun Marcum
Last time we played the Jays we faced Halladay, Litsch and McGowan. We get a whole new slate of pitchers this time around and the first is a name we all remember. John Parrish was never as bad as most people thought he was and letting him go for nothing was a bit of a mistake if he could have been stored in Tacoma.
Parrish's tRA in Seattle was just 3.38 (SSS) but because he suffered to the tune of a .478 BABIP (yeah, you read that right) he was well vilified here. Was he good? No, but he wasn't terrible. This year though, wow he's been bad (SSS). Just three starts into his major league season, he's throwing just 57% of pitches for strikes and has allowed a fair share of line drives. It really is too soon to tell anything about his major league stats and since I don't (yet) have tRA info on the minors (ETA: winter '08) there's nothing further to say.
I say even less about David Purcey since he has 33% fewer starts than Parrish this year and just 7.1 innings pitched, partly due to just two starts and partly due to him sucking balls in those two starts. He's faced 39 batters and walked 11 of them against just three strikeouts. He's also given up two home runs and missed exactly four bats in 151 pitches. This may be the saddest shut down the Mariners offense has even experienced.
Here's what I wrote last time we faced Shaun Marcum.
Marcum has taken a small step forward so far in 2008 with a slight decrease in balls and upticks in both called and swinging strikes helping to back his improved strikeout to walk ratio. What stands out for him though is the benefit that comes from a nifty .213 BABIP which is due for regression no matter how good the Blue Jays defense is.
All of that is still true except his strike% has improved a touch further, now up two points over 2007 and his BABIP has regressed, all the way up to .230. Nonetheless, Marcum has shaved an entire point off his tRA from 2007 and stands at 3.86 on the year, better than every SP the Mariners have used.
Likely Starters:
C Rod Barajas/Gregg Zaun^
1 Lyle Overbay*
2 Marco Scutaro
S David Eckstein/John McDonald
3 Scott Rolen
L Adam Lind*
C Alex Rios
R Brad Wilkerson*/Joe Inglett*
D Matt Stairs*
John McDonald has hung around the majors for a decade now with a 57 OPS+ thanks to a glove that's 95% of Adam Everett and now the rumor is the Dodgers might be looking at him as a trade target. McDonald currently has a .495 OPS. Come on Lee, sell them/somebody/anybody on taking Yuni.
The Blue Jays don't hit for power, but they're one of the best teams in the AL at taking walks. They get to face Miguel Batista in the first game of the series. Hahahaha. Come back soon Ryan, there's going to be a rotation spot waiting for you.
Now we just have to hope that there's room for both Erik Bedard and Ryan Rowland-Smith in the rotation come August since that would mean no more Jarrod Washburn. Come on Lee, get us out from under that contract. Sure, press the Yanks a bit and try to get something interesting back but come Thursday settle for the salary relief if need be.
CONTEXT
Speaking of trades, the rumors continue to surround Raul Ibanez and while the Mariners should aim high but ultimately settle for salary relief on Washburn (and I have no idea why they would want to package Vidro in that move since that does nothing for 2009), the Mariners should be aiming high and sticking to it with Raul. He's going to be Type A and there's very little chance he'd accept arbitration. That is incredibly valuable. I would want a premium prospect in order to give him up at this stage.
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Comments
Free Agent compensation is taking all the fun out of the trade deadline.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I should go over and hang out with the one poster on BBB for this.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They won two games in one day, and still there were no comments.
Seriously, that blog depresses the hell out of me.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets paid, right?
I feel sad when I know deep down that I could keep a better site. >:(
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if he gets paid, he's still a lonely little poster.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to spam other SBN sites to get the word out.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that's good news. Their bullpen threw two games yesterday.
And we miss Halladay, the bullpen avoider.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jul 25, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to
I feel sad for him
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could bring joy into his life.
In a good way, this time.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we're not going to 50 Cosby BBB?
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be down for it
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That didn't turn out to well the last time we planned this...
One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he was really happy when a few people showed up and asked everyone back.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, we should go. But without giant weird pictures or whatever got thrown up there last time.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to decide a day to go
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm busy trying to figure out why the games are ordered 1,3,2
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's probably a UPenn joke
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purcey's been a beast in AAA
121 Ks to 34 BBs in 117 IP. It’ll be a shutout, but it won’t be a Waechter-class abomination.
by marc w on Jul 25, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How the balls were the Blue Jays not able to come up with an outfielder better than Wilkerson?
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by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didnt' they let Reed Johnson go at the beginning of the year for not much?
by LantermanC on Jul 25, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J.P Riccardi is a crazy person.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what team has many young outfielders and needs a SP?...
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by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinals need a silly shortstop, not a SP
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cesar Izturis gave up switch hitting yesterday and he's still better than Yuni.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to a scout I talked to yesterday, most of the Cardinals are sick of Izturis's serious no-nonsense attitude.
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logan doesn't count as a scout.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you root for a team that has a silliness per player (SPP) of .01?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This season the majority of my time is spent laughing at the Mariners
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff had a chance to make you into the Hamburgler and he blew it.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew he was going to get his greasy little hands on that picture
I figured it was only fair
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saved your more nerdy picture for when the Lopez wars begins.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the face I was going for
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also if you bring that out I'll bring out your creepy picture
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one
(and don’t be a wise ass and post it here.)
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one of you posing with Chip
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
APP+ (Awesome per player) is 140 as long as you pretend the 5th starter and closer are who they were in 2001.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Park factors for APP are a joke
There’s no way Busch stadium is that detrimental to awesomeness
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't deny that; anything in St. Louis suppresses awesome
But by that much? According to my park factor I made after 20 years of studying Busch stadium, their APP+ should be around 110
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only bee around for 2.5 years stupid.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only been around for 2.5 years in this world
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How on earth did you study anything for 20 years?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord you can't bring realism to a ridiculous topic
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more fun to make you try and back it up.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I've already mentioned that I studied it on a different world
As it turns out, that other world was Tralfamadore and I was able to go over there for 20 years and not miss a beat back home on Earth
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't travel faster than light stupid.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you can't
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to go through the wormhole in my town well
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be 100% positive on that
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted it to end
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure that Event Horizon has taught us all
that when you travel through a fold in space you actually make a pitstop in Hell, where the fiery corpse of Sam Neill tries to kill you.
by DCMariner on Jul 25, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JP can't evaluate hitters. At all.
But he’s great at finding pitchers.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jul 25, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait should we offer Raul arbitration?
We didn’t offer Jose Guillen arbitration and that worked out all right…
by LantermanC on Jul 25, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I assume this is an effort as sarcasm.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot the word 'successful'... it was a successful effort at sarcasm.
by LantermanC on Jul 25, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading things wrong
you think I would be.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it supposed to be 'alright' or 'all right'?
by LantermanC on Jul 25, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically it's "all right" but "alright" was used so commonly that it is also accepted.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That shit was tight son.
/fo shizzle
One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally, I hate how if you hang around a person long enough, you start to pick up their mannerisms.
The Security Officer that works the same shift that I do, calls everbody “son”, even though he’s just 25. And now I’ve been doing it recently. Goddamnit.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sister's vocabulary and speech patterns the first few weeks after she gets back from the bush are hilarious.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the silly putty of speech patterns.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find dialect, speech patterns and the like fascinating
so I tend to emulate people I’m around a lot as well.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I successfully fended off being added to my lexicon
is obnoxious bostonian. I’ve been known to mix y’all and ayuh in the same sentence though.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y'all is a perfectly cromulent word.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jul 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a colloqualism.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Son is permissible
I loathe people who use “kid”.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my defense I don't listen to old people
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may be inventing things again.
I cannot tell anymore.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never heard an old person say that.
“Young man” perhaps. I heard “Whippersnapper” once, but I think it was in jest.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only tend to hear that word on TV.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do not attend any form of baseball game before college then.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Kid" should only be acceptable if the speaker is over 40 in my opinion.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe all baseball coaches are allowed to use the word.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a girlfriend who would address her group of friends as "kids"
That relationship did not last very long.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
95 percent of the girls I meet these days can't talk
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You set yourself up for that response.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Human interaction doesn't come with texting.
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Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's not due to any fault of their own.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look its one of the girls I will incapacitate
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently "Hey" and "I" are the same in my head
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey look it's one of the girls hey will incapacitate.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we have our drinking contest I think all sentences will come out like this.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would win
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win or lose?
I’m not sure who comes out the winner in this contest.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I don't boot I consider it a victory
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the girl who hates on her own gender.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just say that I don't want to go on long car trips with girls.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend is similar
Kind of one of those girls that hates girls, you know. They always complain “Ugh, girls are such bitches” but then are all nice up to their friends.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate girls. I hate girl-girls.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a lesbian joke in there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it.
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Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you introduce me to the other kind?
Where have they been hiding?
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which, the girls or the girl-girls?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ones that aren't retarded please.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your going to need all the retardation that you can get.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the one who can't manage to find a girl who can put two sentences together.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can they are just abreviated and hella'ed to death
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The phrase "hella" is just barely beaten out by
“git r done” as one of the worst things a human has ever uttered.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you mean Bomb Sauce
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ones that are nice to your face and bitchy behind you.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man it must be tough being a girl.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you do live in the south...
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, there are women that *don't* do this?
I thought it was a requirement along with..you know… the other thing.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've only met the wrong girls, then.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My world view is going to be shattered if it turns out
that I just had the bad luck to meet assholes and bitches all my life while in reality all people don’t actually suck
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All people suck.
They just suck in different ways.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robert
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girl-girls don't visit baseball blogs.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to make a "bitch get back in the kitchen" joke, but realized that it was lame.
One Vision, One Purpose
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't they all?
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reverse is true as well.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't call me "tiger" either
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never even thought of this before
but its so true.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one, alright or allright?
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figure it's only a matter of time before alright becomes a real word,
but we should put up a good fight.
by Teej on Jul 25, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it pretty much already is a real word
Doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would "aiight", should it be used in a serious manner, be a boxable offense?
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't even fathom aiight being used in a serious manner
I think it would be more mind-blowing than boxable.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that early Who? Sounds a lot like the Beatles.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
To be fair, that’s the crap sped up version the vocal on the correct speed (stereo) version are much less Beatlesy
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was just odd, I enjoy the Beatles too
It didn’t sound like much of the who stuff I have heard before.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 25, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not enough Us.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are these series preview threads supposed to be on topic?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought last time we agreed we could party in the preview threads.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was what was agreed upon as well.
Hence my inclusion, as I normally try not to partake on the off topicness.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it wasn't up by 2:30
I was going to start writing my own.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's probably a link to a comment by me
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy god I'm amazing
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty easy to guess when it happens in every thread
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it was baseball related
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was mostly JI bating
but I will concede that.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*baiting
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We young-blood have to stick together
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was afraid it was going to be my comment about BBB.
That was sort of on topic…
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing's ever going to be 100% on-topic
I would like it if the thread were much more on topic though or, if nobody actually cares/finds the stuff interesting, then I can adjust my effort level to match that.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the team's fault.
I like the previews, but really, what the fuck is there more to say than “Good job, I like these?’ The games don’t matter.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I 100% agree
You’re usually really good at explaining everything so there’s normally not many questions I can think of asking
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
We just need to have a designated off topic thread each day. Something along the lines of LFoJL Monday’s, JI Tuesdays, NOLA Wensdays etc… The community is one of the main reasons why this site kicks ass but I hate seeing every thread go terribly off topic instantly, especially if effort was put into the post.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's part of the reason I made the California post
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off-topicness tends to follow us so that might be a good way to control it.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of which, we're going to need to set up a meetup area/time soon because I'm not going to check LL after the 1st
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your decision
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will make NOLA text me about the change
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We probably need a new post, considering there were quite a few who expressed interest in being at that game.
Might as well let (most) of them know where we can meet up.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do it; I'm lazy
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
suggest a bar and die
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we wanted an actual Safeco meeting place.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, just a warning
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will have to have a way to buy Robert a beer, however.
Unless he changes the meeting place at the last moment.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buy him two so he won't put up a fight
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted the post you lazy git.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett and I ranted and raved about this at Tuesday's game.
I’m in too good a mood to rehash the whole thing, but needless to say a designated off topic thread is an excellent idea.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a good idea.
I like learning. I like reading the baseball posts. I just feel I’m not able to contribute there yet. But at the same time, I like the community, and I’d like to have a place to continue that.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People have always been able to contribute in baseball threads, without being able to fully understand.
LL used to be a place to talk about baseball, with a side order of other things. Now it’s the inverse of that. And it sucks.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with a designated off topic thread is that it will go off topic of off topic - e.g. everyone will talk about baseball
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by seattlebruin on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think it'd work?
I’m not sure if forcing an off-topic thread would produce the same sort of results. I know we’re open to the idea though.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it'd work
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also hear that you are open to the idea of shutting down comments for a week to maybe curb it a little.
I endorse this.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We discussed pretty much all options at one point or another.
My favorite is still the atomic bannings, but Jeff is hesitant.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant.
We did just fine in 2005/2006.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2005 the community was relatively small
2006 we were competive for most of the year and in 2008 losing is holy crap old.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd for using pictures and red paint circles.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I want to go on record as saying that recs are the one of the worst fucking things to happen to this place.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again agreed
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They help keep good fanposts up that people are interested in
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the LL softball posts
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recs are fine.
What happened because of the novelty value was not.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait wrong comment damnit
Supposed to be in reply to
People have always been able to contribute in baseball threads, without being able to fully understand.LL used to be a place to talk about baseball, with a side order of other things. Now it’s the inverse of that. And it sucks.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can talk baseball even when the team sucks.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can, but even in the topic-ed threads, it gets repetitive.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try to spice things up by talking about teams other than the Mariners.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take:
anything about baseball is good as long as you don’t end up acting like a troll.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to come out and say it
Albert Pujols needs to hit some fucking homeruns.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been really trying to hold off on the DBack talk.
simply because A.I know most people don’t give a shit and B.They haven’t done as well as I hyped.
Plus, you pull it off better than I do. I don’t give a shit about the Cards, but I always like reading you’re posts on them.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not for them.
That would be like having someone from San Diego and a foreginer running LL.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the human Silly Putty.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I've got four!
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find a difference, besides SBN2.0, from last year
is that, not only are we really shitty, but we’re extremely boring as a team. No offense and slow/retarded pitching can lead to really boring games
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's more to baseball than the Mariners.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was mainly referring to game threads
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game threads don't have to just be about the Mariners game.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch how any of us posts something and the tangents that follow even if we were originally on topic.
Plus if we were responsible for a weekly assignment we could but some measure of thought into it.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least to show that we care at first.
And then let the chaos break free.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've already got one
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe just add a little disclaimer to posts saying whether it is or isn't okay to go offtopic too much in this thread
by OlSalty on Jul 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never saw the harm in humor threads like the Washburn picture one going off topic.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind that so much either
It’s mostly just annoying in the game threads.
by OlSalty on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Jeff
but I actually don’t mind it in the game threads that much.
I mind it in the analysis and news posts.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think game threads are the almost guaranteed to go off topic.
I would never participate in them if the only discussion was about the game.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think about it--if you sit at home or in a bar watching the game, you're not only going to talk about the game.
So why should that be expected here?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 25, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
There’s a lot of downtime during the games, and everyone’s just hanging around anyways. I try really hard not to take serious threads off-topic, and I’m going to try even harder in the future. It’s obviously beginning to really bug the mods, and I can understand that.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the off-topics are started by regulars.
Perhaps if everyone knew how much it annoys the overlords and knew how much they wanted it to stop, it could be self-corrected without too much difficulty. Once the rules are known, self-policing happens quickly here.
by Jed MC on Jul 25, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with the more organic off-topicness in game threads.
What I don’t like is the blatant attempts to steer things off-topic.
by BrianL on Jul 25, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo.
Natural progression is fine. Forced off topicness is bad. Some of you guys have almost completely ruined GTE because you’re trying to “out funny” the other person.
Don’t force it.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that problem has diminished quite a bit.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for making rec begging a meme
I was just trying to liven off days with paint and other such thing but it got out of hand just like every other meme ![]()
RIP- Robert/JI 08, Recs, Paint, Drunk threads and LL Live Journals.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God please yes.
Rec begging is fucking pathetic and awful. Holy christ.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean jesus, what ever happened to letting the merits of the post stand for itself?
Despite the admonishments around here of people who use the +1 system, people don’t realize that Recs are EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING!
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke that got out of hand.
It’s getting better now.
FanShots are underrated.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the point.
I was getting annoyed at all the fuckin Rec’d posts. The best way to destory a currency is to devalue it.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No the best way is "Hey guys, this is stupid. Lets stop."
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff tried to do this with puns.
Look what happened.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Puns came later.
And were satan spawn.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the first person that replies to this comment with a pun
gets 2 hours in the box.
by Matthew on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's another thing.
The box has turned into a joke of it’s own.,
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