Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Toronto Blue Jays
Seattle: 38-63
Blue Jays: 51-51
GAMES
Game 1: Miguel Batista vs John Parrish*
Game 2: Carlos Silva vs David Purcey*
Game 3: Jarrod Washburn* vs Shaun Marcum
Last time we played the Jays we faced Halladay, Litsch and McGowan. We get a whole new slate of pitchers this time around and the first is a name we all remember. John Parrish was never as bad as most people thought he was and letting him go for nothing was a bit of a mistake if he could have been stored in Tacoma.
Parrish's tRA in Seattle was just 3.38 (SSS) but because he suffered to the tune of a .478 BABIP (yeah, you read that right) he was well vilified here. Was he good? No, but he wasn't terrible. This year though, wow he's been bad (SSS). Just three starts into his major league season, he's throwing just 57% of pitches for strikes and has allowed a fair share of line drives. It really is too soon to tell anything about his major league stats and since I don't (yet) have tRA info on the minors (ETA: winter '08) there's nothing further to say.
I say even less about David Purcey since he has 33% fewer starts than Parrish this year and just 7.1 innings pitched, partly due to just two starts and partly due to him sucking balls in those two starts. He's faced 39 batters and walked 11 of them against just three strikeouts. He's also given up two home runs and missed exactly four bats in 151 pitches. This may be the saddest shut down the Mariners offense has even experienced.
Here's what I wrote last time we faced Shaun Marcum.
Marcum has taken a small step forward so far in 2008 with a slight decrease in balls and upticks in both called and swinging strikes helping to back his improved strikeout to walk ratio. What stands out for him though is the benefit that comes from a nifty .213 BABIP which is due for regression no matter how good the Blue Jays defense is.
All of that is still true except his strike% has improved a touch further, now up two points over 2007 and his BABIP has regressed, all the way up to .230. Nonetheless, Marcum has shaved an entire point off his tRA from 2007 and stands at 3.86 on the year, better than every SP the Mariners have used.
Likely Starters:
C Rod Barajas/Gregg Zaun^
1 Lyle Overbay*
2 Marco Scutaro
S David Eckstein/John McDonald
3 Scott Rolen
L Adam Lind*
C Alex Rios
R Brad Wilkerson*/Joe Inglett*
D Matt Stairs*
John McDonald has hung around the majors for a decade now with a 57 OPS+ thanks to a glove that's 95% of Adam Everett and now the rumor is the Dodgers might be looking at him as a trade target. McDonald currently has a .495 OPS. Come on Lee, sell them/somebody/anybody on taking Yuni.
The Blue Jays don't hit for power, but they're one of the best teams in the AL at taking walks. They get to face Miguel Batista in the first game of the series. Hahahaha. Come back soon Ryan, there's going to be a rotation spot waiting for you.
Now we just have to hope that there's room for both Erik Bedard and Ryan Rowland-Smith in the rotation come August since that would mean no more Jarrod Washburn. Come on Lee, get us out from under that contract. Sure, press the Yanks a bit and try to get something interesting back but come Thursday settle for the salary relief if need be.
CONTEXT
Speaking of trades, the rumors continue to surround Raul Ibanez and while the Mariners should aim high but ultimately settle for salary relief on Washburn (and I have no idea why they would want to package Vidro in that move since that does nothing for 2009), the Mariners should be aiming high and sticking to it with Raul. He's going to be Type A and there's very little chance he'd accept arbitration. That is incredibly valuable. I would want a premium prospect in order to give him up at this stage.
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Free Agent compensation is taking all the fun out of the trade deadline.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
I feel like I should go over and hang out with the one poster on BBB for this.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions
They won two games in one day, and still there were no comments.
Seriously, that blog depresses the hell out of me.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
He gets paid, right?
I feel sad when I know deep down that I could keep a better site. >:(
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I don't care if he gets paid, he's still a lonely little poster.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He needs to spam other SBN sites to get the word out.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
Hey, that's good news. Their bullpen threw two games yesterday.
And we miss Halladay, the bullpen avoider.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I want to
I feel sad for him
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
We could bring joy into his life.
In a good way, this time.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be down for it
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That didn't turn out to well the last time we planned this...
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Actually, he was really happy when a few people showed up and asked everyone back.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
See, we should go. But without giant weird pictures or whatever got thrown up there last time.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
We need to decide a day to go
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Purcey's been a beast in AAA
121 Ks to 34 BBs in 117 IP. It’ll be a shutout, but it won’t be a Waechter-class abomination.
How the balls were the Blue Jays not able to come up with an outfielder better than Wilkerson?
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You know what team has many young outfielders and needs a SP?...
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
The Cardinals need a silly shortstop, not a SP
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Cesar Izturis gave up switch hitting yesterday and he's still better than Yuni.
Did Willie Bloomquist's dad die and make you queen?
According to a scout I talked to yesterday, most of the Cardinals are sick of Izturis's serious no-nonsense attitude.
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you root for a team that has a silliness per player (SPP) of .01?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This season the majority of my time is spent laughing at the Mariners
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew he was going to get his greasy little hands on that picture
I figured it was only fair
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the face I was going for
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Also if you bring that out I'll bring out your creepy picture
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The one of you posing with Chip
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
APP+ (Awesome per player) is 140 as long as you pretend the 5th starter and closer are who they were in 2001.
Park factors for APP are a joke
There’s no way Busch stadium is that detrimental to awesomeness
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't deny that; anything in St. Louis suppresses awesome
But by that much? According to my park factor I made after 20 years of studying Busch stadium, their APP+ should be around 110
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It's only been around for 2.5 years in this world
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
How on earth did you study anything for 20 years?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Good lord you can't bring realism to a ridiculous topic
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It's more fun to make you try and back it up.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I've already mentioned that I studied it on a different world
As it turns out, that other world was Tralfamadore and I was able to go over there for 20 years and not miss a beat back home on Earth
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe you can't
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Besides it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to go through the wormhole in my town well
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't be 100% positive on that
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted it to end
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that Event Horizon has taught us all
that when you travel through a fold in space you actually make a pitstop in Hell, where the fiery corpse of Sam Neill tries to kill you.
JP can't evaluate hitters. At all.
But he’s great at finding pitchers.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
They did
Adam Lind.
Poor guy just had a rough initial call-up this year, and so they sent him back down. Now he’s up, and hitting well.
Wait should we offer Raul arbitration?
We didn’t offer Jose Guillen arbitration and that worked out all right…
Technically it's "all right" but "alright" was used so commonly that it is also accepted.
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by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Incidentally, I hate how if you hang around a person long enough, you start to pick up their mannerisms.
The Security Officer that works the same shift that I do, calls everbody “son”, even though he’s just 25. And now I’ve been doing it recently. Goddamnit.
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My sister's vocabulary and speech patterns the first few weeks after she gets back from the bush are hilarious.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I find dialect, speech patterns and the like fascinating
so I tend to emulate people I’m around a lot as well.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The only one I successfully fended off being added to my lexicon
is obnoxious bostonian. I’ve been known to mix y’all and ayuh in the same sentence though.
It's a colloqualism.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Son is permissible
I loathe people who use “kid”.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
In my defense I don't listen to old people
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be inventing things again.
I cannot tell anymore.
I have never heard an old person say that.
“Young man” perhaps. I heard “Whippersnapper” once, but I think it was in jest.
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Do not attend any form of baseball game before college then.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
"Kid" should only be acceptable if the speaker is over 40 in my opinion.
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Or Lou Piniella and you are Luis Ugueto
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe all baseball coaches are allowed to use the word.
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I had a girlfriend who would address her group of friends as "kids"
That relationship did not last very long.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that's not due to any fault of their own.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey look it's one of the girls hey will incapacitate.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If we have our drinking contest I think all sentences will come out like this.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I would win
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Win or lose?
I’m not sure who comes out the winner in this contest.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If I don't boot I consider it a victory
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I just say that I don't want to go on long car trips with girls.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My girlfriend is similar
Kind of one of those girls that hates girls, you know. They always complain “Ugh, girls are such bitches” but then are all nice up to their friends.
JI/Robert '08!
I don't hate girls. I hate girl-girls.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a lesbian joke in there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it.
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Can you introduce me to the other kind?
Where have they been hiding?
Which, the girls or the girl-girls?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Says the one who can't manage to find a girl who can put two sentences together.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The phrase "hella" is just barely beaten out by
“git r done” as one of the worst things a human has ever uttered.
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by Goose on Jul 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you mean Bomb Sauce
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The ones that are nice to your face and bitchy behind you.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you do live in the south...
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, there are women that *don't* do this?
I thought it was a requirement along with..you know… the other thing.
You've only met the wrong girls, then.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My world view is going to be shattered if it turns out
that I just had the bad luck to meet assholes and bitches all my life while in reality all people don’t actually suck
All people suck.
They just suck in different ways.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Girl-girls don't visit baseball blogs.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to make a "bitch get back in the kitchen" joke, but realized that it was lame.
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In my experience, all the good ones do
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The reverse is true as well.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't call me "tiger" either
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a pet peeve of mine so be wary
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I figure it's only a matter of time before alright becomes a real word,
but we should put up a good fight.
I think it pretty much already is a real word
Doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Would "aiight", should it be used in a serious manner, be a boxable offense?
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I can't even fathom aiight being used in a serious manner
I think it would be more mind-blowing than boxable.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
To be fair, that’s the crap sped up version the vocal on the correct speed (stereo) version are much less Beatlesy
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It was just odd, I enjoy the Beatles too
It didn’t sound like much of the who stuff I have heard before.
JI/Robert '08!
Not enough Us.
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by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Are these series preview threads supposed to be on topic?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions
I thought last time we agreed we could party in the preview threads.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was what was agreed upon as well.
Hence my inclusion, as I normally try not to partake on the off topicness.
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It's probably a link to a comment by me
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy god I'm amazing
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It's pretty easy to guess when it happens in every thread
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
At least it was baseball related
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It was mostly JI bating
but I will concede that.
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by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
*baiting
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
We young-blood have to stick together
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I was afraid it was going to be my comment about BBB.
That was sort of on topic…
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing's ever going to be 100% on-topic
I would like it if the thread were much more on topic though or, if nobody actually cares/finds the stuff interesting, then I can adjust my effort level to match that.
It's the team's fault.
I like the previews, but really, what the fuck is there more to say than “Good job, I like these?’ The games don’t matter.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I 100% agree
You’re usually really good at explaining everything so there’s normally not many questions I can think of asking
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Same
We just need to have a designated off topic thread each day. Something along the lines of LFoJL Monday’s, JI Tuesdays, NOLA Wensdays etc… The community is one of the main reasons why this site kicks ass but I hate seeing every thread go terribly off topic instantly, especially if effort was put into the post.
That's part of the reason I made the California post
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which, we're going to need to set up a meetup area/time soon because I'm not going to check LL after the 1st
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Your decision
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
We probably need a new post, considering there were quite a few who expressed interest in being at that game.
Might as well let (most) of them know where we can meet up.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You do it; I'm lazy
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
suggest a bar and die
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought we wanted an actual Safeco meeting place.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, just a warning
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I will have to have a way to buy Robert a beer, however.
Unless he changes the meeting place at the last moment.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Buy him two so he won't put up a fight
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett and I ranted and raved about this at Tuesday's game.
I’m in too good a mood to rehash the whole thing, but needless to say a designated off topic thread is an excellent idea.
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I think this is a good idea.
I like learning. I like reading the baseball posts. I just feel I’m not able to contribute there yet. But at the same time, I like the community, and I’d like to have a place to continue that.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
People have always been able to contribute in baseball threads, without being able to fully understand.
LL used to be a place to talk about baseball, with a side order of other things. Now it’s the inverse of that. And it sucks.
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Agreed
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by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with a designated off topic thread is that it will go off topic of off topic - e.g. everyone will talk about baseball
The Jose Lopez Watch - 120H - 13 BB - 61 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think it'd work?
I’m not sure if forcing an off-topic thread would produce the same sort of results. I know we’re open to the idea though.
I think it'd work
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I also hear that you are open to the idea of shutting down comments for a week to maybe curb it a little.
I endorse this.
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We discussed pretty much all options at one point or another.
My favorite is still the atomic bannings, but Jeff is hesitant.
2005 the community was relatively small
2006 we were competive for most of the year and in 2008 losing is holy crap old.
And I want to go on record as saying that recs are the one of the worst fucking things to happen to this place.
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Once again agreed
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
They help keep good fanposts up that people are interested in
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
like the LL softball posts
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Recs are fine.
What happened because of the novelty value was not.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait wrong comment damnit
Supposed to be in reply to
People have always been able to contribute in baseball threads, without being able to fully understand.LL used to be a place to talk about baseball, with a side order of other things. Now it’s the inverse of that. And it sucks.
You can, but even in the topic-ed threads, it gets repetitive.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I try to spice things up by talking about teams other than the Mariners.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My take:
anything about baseball is good as long as you don’t end up acting like a troll.
I'm just going to come out and say it
Albert Pujols needs to hit some fucking homeruns.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been really trying to hold off on the DBack talk.
simply because A.I know most people don’t give a shit and B.They haven’t done as well as I hyped.
Plus, you pull it off better than I do. I don’t give a shit about the Cards, but I always like reading you’re posts on them.
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Not for them.
That would be like having someone from San Diego and a foreginer running LL.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget the human Silly Putty.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And I've got four!
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I find a difference, besides SBN2.0, from last year
is that, not only are we really shitty, but we’re extremely boring as a team. No offense and slow/retarded pitching can lead to really boring games
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was mainly referring to game threads
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Game threads don't have to just be about the Mariners game.
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Watch how any of us posts something and the tangents that follow even if we were originally on topic.
Plus if we were responsible for a weekly assignment we could but some measure of thought into it.
At least to show that we care at first.
And then let the chaos break free.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I've already got one
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind that so much either
It’s mostly just annoying in the game threads.
I don't know about Jeff
but I actually don’t mind it in the game threads that much.
I mind it in the analysis and news posts.
I think game threads are the almost guaranteed to go off topic.
I would never participate in them if the only discussion was about the game.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Think about it--if you sit at home or in a bar watching the game, you're not only going to talk about the game.
So why should that be expected here?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
There’s a lot of downtime during the games, and everyone’s just hanging around anyways. I try really hard not to take serious threads off-topic, and I’m going to try even harder in the future. It’s obviously beginning to really bug the mods, and I can understand that.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of the off-topics are started by regulars.
Perhaps if everyone knew how much it annoys the overlords and knew how much they wanted it to stop, it could be self-corrected without too much difficulty. Once the rules are known, self-policing happens quickly here.
I'm fine with the more organic off-topicness in game threads.
What I don’t like is the blatant attempts to steer things off-topic.
Bingo.
Natural progression is fine. Forced off topicness is bad. Some of you guys have almost completely ruined GTE because you’re trying to “out funny” the other person.
Don’t force it.
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I think that problem has diminished quite a bit.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel bad for making rec begging a meme
I was just trying to liven off days with paint and other such thing but it got out of hand just like every other meme ![]()
RIP- Robert/JI 08, Recs, Paint, Drunk threads and LL Live Journals.
God please yes.
Rec begging is fucking pathetic and awful. Holy christ.
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I mean jesus, what ever happened to letting the merits of the post stand for itself?
Despite the admonishments around here of people who use the +1 system, people don’t realize that Recs are EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING!
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It was a joke that got out of hand.
It’s getting better now.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the point.
I was getting annoyed at all the fuckin Rec’d posts. The best way to destory a currency is to devalue it.
No the best way is "Hey guys, this is stupid. Lets stop."
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Jeff tried to do this with puns.
Look what happened.
And the first person that replies to this comment with a pun
gets 2 hours in the box.
That's another thing.
The box has turned into a joke of it’s own.,
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That was me and I've stopped that
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That was you, that was Jeff, that was JI, that was quite a few people.
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I know and apologize
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if you're going to complain this much you should at least have the facts straight.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I know I'm bitching and moaning, and I've been doing it alot lately, but somebody's gotta say it. Might as well be me.
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I'm okay with it
Feedback is important.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I see you as the Simon of this community
With Jeff being Ralph and Matthew/Graham being Piggy minus the bad personality
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a compliment by the way
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The record was already set straight.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually the box began as a joke
Now it is not.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The box was a joke from day 1.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I still maintain that puns can be funny spontaneously
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not anymore, which sucks.
I love a good pun.
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by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Like all memes, this is true.
Problem is, unfunny people then abuse said memes because they think that makes them funny. It doesn’t and it just ruins them for the rest of us.
I wouldn't say all memes
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not 100% but generally it doesn't become a meme
unless it was funny in some context.
Washburn pedo joke was somewhat funny the first time
After that…
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if it's people trying to make them selves funny, as it is people trying to make others like them by forcing the humor.
When it’s a hell of alot easier to act normal. There’s no need to impress anybody.
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I don't think it's fair
to make that conclusion.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll certainly concede that there is an argument for the first part.
But I’m pretty sure the last sentence is accurate at times.
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Right but you've been here since almost the very beginning
I know at least for me I was 100% different when I first started commenting here because it’s such a tight community and it’s kind of hard to join in
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I can say with a 100% honesty that this is how I act in real life.
Self deprecating sense of humor FTW.
Have some confidence.
In my experience, when you go out of your way to impress people. you just end up having the opposite effect.
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There's a difference between self-deprecating and impressing people.
If Robert is just acting like himself, well, let him be himself.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Robert is usually funny, though.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If by usually you mean always.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that no one needs to impress anyone.
I just think that the motivations are often different than you seem to.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It sounds pretty right to me.
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A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
In some instances, sure.
But I think the vast majority of things that begin to annoy people pretty quickly aren’t so much desperate cried for attention as they are people failing to be funny. The end result isn’t all that different, but the motivation is, and it’s an important distinction to make.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Attempting to be funny is usually done when you want someone to approve of what you say.
That’s why failing to be funny can be seen as a cry for attention
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by BrettJMiller on Jul 25, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
And repeated attempts to be funny when the first one didn't work
reinforce that theory.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
So any time someone makes a joke
they’re desperately seeking approval?
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think his point( and I could be wrong)
was that thinking along the lines of “hey I just thought of something funny, I’m gonna post it” is all well and good but “hey, I think so and so are gonna think this is funny and then they’ll think I’m cool” is kinda lame.
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I mostly agree.
And I’m not denying that “look at me!” behavior doesn’t exist at all. I just think that it’s unfair to assume that any joke that doesn’t go over well is someone trying to beg for attention.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This website is my sole source of personal validation.
Without your approval, I am nothing.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with your political stances
and would gladly nail your sister if I had the means and equipment.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, judgement calls are difficult to make for sure.
Established patterns of behavior are easier to go by.
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Personally, I don't come here for the humor.
I have other sites for that(obligatory tgwtg pimp). The humor is just a side effect.
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Thankfully that whole thing died down pretty quick
but we’ll have to make a point to talk about it before the start of next season.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to four months ago.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
I expect the game threads to go off topic a bit, but it can get way out of control sometimes. I’m not suggesting we only talk about the game in them, that would be boring as hell. But it would be nice if things stayed remotely baseball related and didn’t go off into 200 post subthreads about stuff only a couple people are really invested in talking about.
Thank you.
These little inside jokes, that only 6 people understand? Nobody gives a shit.
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And also, if we must go off topic, can we please have a little varitey?
Because it’s the same stupid shit over and over and over and over.
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So does constant complaining.
If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm largely to blame. You can hunt me down if you want
I’m the hero that this blog deserves, but not the one it needs
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we all know where you will be on August 10th.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I will jump down from an upper level and break Robert's arm while dressed as a duck because all the batsuits were taken
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Works but I was thinking Darkwing Duck
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm always dangerous
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, that day is shaping up to be better and better.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking you were going to link to the comment where I said I was harmless
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You pretty much did that for yourself.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
...
You planned this, didn’t you?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The Washburn thread remained surprisingly on topic for two days now.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What about the VEB subthread?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually hate having serious posts go off topic.
Sucks because I have had questions that I don’t ask because I feel like the thread will go off topic.
I don't think that our off-topicness reflects our appreciation for your writeups.
I read it. I understand it. And then I sympathize with the poor guy talking to himself.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 25, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem with that.
I’m not going to change anything, I don’t want to change ruining one of the few good parts of LL, I just wish there was more interest in the actual baseball sometimes so that it wasn’t 99.5% off-topic. like 75% would be ideal I think.
Adding all the player links must be a bitch
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah you don't really have to do that
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I sure as hell wouldn't do it.
Baseball reference it yourself motherfuckers.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Link to shitty music videos
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Link to yo-yo championships
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame the matchups. This series just looks miserably uninteresting.
But I must say my anger over what Parrish represented must have blinded me from the fact that he wasn’t nearly as bad as he looked.
Ditto. I found it surprising in retrospect how unlucky he was.
I thought someone else might have brought it up.
How many runs does John McDonald need to save with his glove to make up for his shitty bat?
And does he come close to that?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
A ton and not really
hence why he’s never been able to hold down a starting role like Everett has.
Overall better or worse than Yuni?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Using GPA and the conversion of GPA to runs (thanks THT) and assuming John McDonald got the same amount of PAs as Yuni gets
over the course of a year, McDonald would have to be ~21 runs better than Yuni on defense, which is entirely possible (I might have done something wrong, I’m never positive on my math)
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen the Cubs headline meme on Fark?
It’s made me hate them so much more.
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I get tired of Habrowsky always telling us about how Edmonds is watching the game and texting him in the booth.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cubs headline meme on Fark: "Cubs. Playoffs. Book It. Done"
Holy fucking shit it’s annoying.
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That's not news...
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait for Rich Harden to get hurt and Carlos Zambrano to get suspended for yelling at Rich Harden for getting hurt
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
We can make as many .gifs as we want but none will ever top that one
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Repost for reference?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure Goose will oblige
I can’t see it from work.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the look on his face as he's about to pick it up again
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I still remember sitting at the bar at work watching that game.
Dbacks are down 3-2(I think) and a coworker, who has been giving me shit about the Dbacks for the last few weeks comes up to me as Cy steps to the plate and says “Oh, what now huh? Looks like the Cubbies are coming b…”
Then that homer happened.
Awesome.
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I can't believe we actually have more homeruns than 4 other AL teams
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 2:38 PM PDT reply actions
Wait? Vidro's not batting cleanup?
Ichiro RF
Bloomquist CF
Ibanez LF
Beltre 3B
Lopez 2B
Vidro DH
Cairo 1B
Johjima C
Betancourt SS
Are there any MLB ready DH type players who might be gotten for Washburn?
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
*who would actually be good
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by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 25, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It's immensely frustrating.
The thing that scares me is the possibility that they’re doing it to see if he’s capable of playing there next year.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Shit.
Per Baker, concerning Morrow starting.
Riggleman doesn’t see Morrow making a transformation out of the major league bullpen. He says the quickest way to get Morrow’s arm built up would be to send him to Tacoma for two or three weeks.It all depends on how quickly J.J. Putz grabs the closer role again. Putz has come back strong from the injury, so strong that the Mariners are now back to discussing Morrow as a starter this year. According to Riggleman, the orgnaization is split right down the middle as to whether Morrow should start now or over the winter in winter ball.
For now, Riggleman is ready to go with a Morrow-Putz combination at closer. He doesn’t want to throw either guy three days in a row right now. But - and here’s the catch - if one guy goes two days in a row, then tells Riggleman he’d like to go three, the manager will oblige. If that guy is Putz, then Morrow will likely be sent down. Even if Putz can only go back-to-back days a number of times, there’s a good chance Morrow would be sent out no later than mid-August. After all, who knows when this team will see three straight closing opportunities?
I rather see them go the Joba route and stretch him out in the majors.
by JI on Jul 25, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care how the hell they do it.
I just want to see them do it.
I hate this idea.
FanShots are underrated.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd prefer for him to make a few minor league starts just to stretch the arm
and get him used to it – I agree though that he shouldn’t be down long, and I don’t see the value in having him make more than 3-4 starts in the minors before coming up to take his lumps in the bigs
The Jose Lopez Watch - 120H - 13 BB - 61 G Left
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