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Boston Red Sox @ Seattle Mariners


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Boston Red Sox @ Seattle Mariners

07/22/08 7:10 PM PDT

Boston Red Sox Seattle Mariners
Jacoby Ellsbury - LF Ichiro Suzuki - RF
Dustin Pedroia - 2B Jose Lopez - 2B
J.D. Drew - RF Raul Ibanez - "LF"
Manny Ramirez - DH Jose Vidro - "DH"
Mike Lowell - 3B Adrian Beltre - 3B
Kevin Youkilis - 1B Jeremy Reed - CF
Jed Lowrie - SS Jeff Clement - C
Jason Varitek - C Bryan LaHair - 1B
Coco Crisp - CF Yuniesky Betancourt - "SS"
W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - R.A. Dickey 2-4 16 7 0 0 0 0 62.2 63 26 26 5 28 40 3.73 1.45

 

W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka 10-1 16 16 0 0 0 0 88.1 65 29 26 5 57 77 2.65 1.38

 

After 48 starts in the big leagues, Matsuzaka's got a career tRA of 4.57 and an xFIP of 4.64. Solid investment, guys. Totally worth the frenzy.

Where does nabbing Dickey in the Rule 5 Draft rank on the list of best Mariner moves of the year? Of the last five years? I can't believe the same team that paid so very much for four of its starters was able to find a competent back-end solution for a Fahey fistful of pennies. If I didn't know better, I'd call it genius.

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Who's the fourth?

Batista, Washburn, Silva and…

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bedard

I was just looking at Jones’ stat line. And Sherrill’s. It hurts so much.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never mind

Forgot Girl Parts

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

***
Fahey fistful

Movies I don’t want to see:

This.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well duh

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can tell you how it ends.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do not want to see it.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poor decision.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im just not interested.

It does not arouse the fires that are dormant in the inner most recesses of my soul.

"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 6:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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After 48 starts in the big leagues, Matsuzaka’s got a career tRA of 4.57 and an xFIP of 4.64. Solid investment, guys. Totally worth the frenzy.

Nothing like hindsight to make one feel superior.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brad Penny owns a race horse named

Synnin and Grinnin

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 6:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it one horse names that or two?

Also, that’s fucking awesome. Those were the names of the goats that pulled Thor’s chariot.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet it's just a coincidence.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoosh

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I knew you were sarcastic

Just saying that I would do it every atbat, not just when runners are on

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 6:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad idea.

Bill James did a simulation where he had Babe Ruth hitting normally in a terrible lineup, and Babe Ruth getting walked in ALL his PAs. The second lineup scored more runs, because the 1.000 OBP (and NO outs) tends to help you score runs.

by eponymous_coward on Jul 22, 2008 7:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is sarcasm BTW

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still don't understand the Durham trade

What’s the point in the Brewers acquiring him if they’re not going to use him

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weeks insurance.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because he's bad.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's no way he can maintain his average

and his power is gone

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you see that bomb Weeks hit last night?

Worst case they’re equal, better case Weeks bounces back a little.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, it's the Vidro / Jones debate!

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh hey it's not

Jones was barely given time to prove himself. Weeks has had a lot more

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 7:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He hit fine the last two years.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See below.

His LD% was way down from his average and his FB% was way above average. Not to mention his nearly unsustainable .238 BABIP.

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 7:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because his FB% is down and his LD% is way up.

That was horrible luck he had last season and he’s bouncing back.

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 7:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish Brett had caught that.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:14 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pujols, Chipper, ...

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't looked it up in a few days?

And should you count IBBS?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't OBP influenced be fluky things too?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about park effects.

Vinny Castilla OBPs .360 at Coors, Beltre OBPs .310 at Safeco, Beltre is still the tougher out.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as it's not "The Great American Lager".

I’ll take trendy microbrews with a hint of chocolate, thanks.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck you Blowers

No they haven’t been aggressive all season long, they were patient early in the year when they were fucking winning. godddamn you giant sack of shit I hope your mouth rots off and feral dogs eat it.

by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blowers was a somewhat patient hitter too.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

winning losing less often

by Graham on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sense a post coming up:

pitches/PA when we win vs. pitches/PA when we lose

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can anybody tell me

why my mlb.tv will come up and the screen just sits there blank?

by CKel on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which OS/Browser?

I’ve had problems with MLB.tv in Firefox on both OS X and Vista for the last month or two.

Only works for me in Safari and IE 7.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IE7 on Vista

This was a recurring problem last year. It worked fine towards the beginning of the year but it’s back to last year’s issues now.

by CKel on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try a lower stream?

I think it does that to me in IE7 on Vista at work when I try to view the 1.2mb but the 800kb works.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't even have premium

My 400 kb won’t work. I can get radio fine though

by CKel on Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you using silverlight/next gen?

That could be it.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clayton Kershaw

still not ready for the bigs.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for Betancourt?

I don’t think even the Ms are that stupid.

by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Hey Lee, this is Lee."

“Oh, hai, Lee. What do you want?”
“I was wondering if you wanted to trade Yuniesky Betancourt for Jose Lopez, Jarrod Washburn and Jose Vidro?”
“Sure!”

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have no idea. Right after these comments:

(7:27:18 PM) Graham: ...
(7:27:18 PM) Matthew (MSN): ...

(7:27:21 PM) Matthew (MSN): AHHH
(7:27:25 PM) Graham: hahahaha

by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I for one will not be attending.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't changed places of residence.

Kidnap away.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'll see if I want to be returned.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Goddamn right.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who *wants* to be kidnapped?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He does.
I haven’t changed places of residence.

Kidnap away.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:38 PM PDT

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cate Blanchett in Bandits

Whoever Charlie Sheen kidnapped in that movie where Charlie Sheen kidnaps a girl

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO

Even if he is a bit of a whiner.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So LOOGYs are pointless.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs