Rumors
The Yankees are not expected to make a blockbuster deal before the trade deadline, but they are seeking ways to upgrade their rotation and are taking a serious look at Seattle lefty Jarrod Washburn.
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A lot of teams missed the playoffs in 1994
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason I can't remember what happened that year.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Shall I spell it out for you?
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well done kid.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope you did that on purpose.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
Ask the Expos.
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I'm fucking serious
I remember what happened down the stretch in 91, 92, 93, but I have no memories of anything past mid-July in 1994. God bless my brain for blocking out that trauma.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a whole lot happened from Mid July to the end of the season.
The strike started on August 12th.
I remember watching a Griffey highlight reel in the Kingdome (for some reason)
and seeing clips of him kicking ass in 1994, and thinking “I don’t remember any of this…”
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you fall on your head that year?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 22, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm trying to think of a year where I haven't fallen on my head.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
J-Ironic that you can remember falling on your head.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 22, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I always used to hit my head on the door frame getting out of the car.
Thank god a drunk driver totaled that thing.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
As they say, a good picture's worth $1,000.
Of course these pictures are worth approxamitely $9,850,000. That saying sucks. Much like Washburn.
"Hole in one, eh?"
Uh... Coach?
It’s “a good picture is worth 1,000 WORDS, not $1,000…”
Otherwise, I’d be a pro photographer
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh, I do just fine for myself as is
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Well played on the Family Guy reference that I missed
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
There was an episode called "A Picture Is Worth $1,000"
and I must have been thinking of that for some reason and thought it was the real saying.
"Hole in one, eh?"
Chris paints the picture for Peter, art dealer sees it...
Yadda, yadda..
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This photo
Is worth a hell of a lot more than $1000

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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Although one is pressed to explain why
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Things are often worth more than their tangible value.
I just paid $75 for about $3 worth of vinyl and $.50 worth of cardboard because it was worth $75 to me.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew you would.

Sealed. Usually goes for $150-$200 in that condition. I had to.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 22, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Hype box set, eh?
That’s got all-time Tacoma anthem ‘My Hometown’ on it, right? Nice.
And an alt. version of ‘Julie Francavilla’ by Flop. I always hoped she heard about that song, and that she liked it.
Young Fresh Fellow's "Dark Corner of the World"
was worth the price of admission alone. The alternate version of “Julie Francavilla” is better than the album one, as far as I’m concerned.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 22, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I miss something?
Looks like a dead tree to me.
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Yup.
ANY original Ansel Adams print starts at upwards of $5000.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And one of my life goals
Is to own an original print of this.

It’s probably the photo that drove me to photography the most.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
As is the story behind that photo, too...
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Do tell.
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Linky Linky
On Ansel Adams.com
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell...
Why didn’t that link work:
http://www.anseladams.com/content/ansel_info/ansel_ancedotes.html
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
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I always forget that these pictures aren't as old as I think they are.
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Nope.
They say if you have to ask the price you can’t afford it, but I already understand that so I’m going to. But without having done so, yet, I’d guess that this photo would probably sell for at least the salary of the MLB minimum player:

Only 8 of them were printed. Ever.
Of course, as of right now per wiki, a sale of the “Moonrise, Hernandez” photo original has been the highest of any Ansel print. And that was for less than $1 million, amazingly. I’m fairly certain, though, that while it’s one of Ansel’s more popular images, his 1930s stuff that doesn’t get that much attention is right up there in value.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
For right now I think I'll have to settle for replicas.
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And more photo-geekery...
...just because I can.
Anyone who says that they don’t photoshop their photos and gives the reason that “Ansel never would’ve used Photoshop!” doesn’t know the story behind this photo:

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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have a link to that story as well?
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Tried to find it...
...but can’t right now.
I believe it’s in one of his books, though.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You just gave me an idea for what to look for at the book store before I go camping.
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I'm re-reading his autobiography
For at least the 3rd time…
I could be wrong, but I think the story behind that photo is in this book.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Spoiler alert!
Hahaha…
Anyway—I believe this is the shot of the foothills where it’s a tradition of either high schoolers or college kids to go and scratch graffiti into the mountain. He took the photo anyway, and had his retouchers edit out the words that were written on that mountain. I can’t remember if he touched up the negative, too, or what. It’s something like that, though…
Here’s a larger copy of this shot, but I’m not sure it’s a good enough scan to see if you can tell where the touch-up work is. But in one copy of this that I’ve seen, you can definitely tell…
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the recommendation.
I’ll look for that tomorrow before I leave.
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I have a fake copy, framed
And I’ve seen an original print.
The original is absolutely amazing.
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I need this.
I don’t care if it’s a print. If I can stare at the little one on my computer, I could stare at one on my wall.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 22, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
A decent reprint is available
Probably worth the $70 it costs…
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
A google search for “Moonrise, Hernandez” doesn’t really do it justice.
There’s a reason why Ansel wanted total, absolute control over even cheap duplications of his works…
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean...
His photos of Georgia O’Keefe’s “petals” aren’t good enough for ya?
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care what anyone says, I love Georgia O'Keefe.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 22, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding.
Her husband did pretty well himself. Certainly one of my faves, too…
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
I bought his copy of Jeffrey’s bush:

It wasn’t printed by Ansel, so it’s only sorta expensive, but it is an actual photograph from his actual negative. There are several more in that series that I hope to buy soon…
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh god... so easy... potential for hilarity...
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Box time is less fun when you are alone.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it a happy little box?
I fucking hate you Mariners
When there are two of us.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
See, this is why you don't go there.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 22, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Just realized there are all sorts of layers of double meanings here that I did not intend.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine was intentional.
I fucking hate you Mariners
That makes sense.
I didn’t recognize it as an Ansel Adams. I do love his work.
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Well, yeah...
You should sharpen a second pencil as punishment for even viewing that site :-)
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by PositivePaul on Jul 22, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A dull pencil would be much more effective.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure that there's someone around that can show you how to make a pencil disappear.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 22, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I took me a full minute to figure that out as it happened.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This is worse than the JeffClown
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty good!
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LOOK AWAY IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE DARK KNIGHT

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This scene was so amazing.
Never have I seen an audience react with horror, yet start laughing.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be so awesome.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Since this post has already been derailed
What are everyone’s thoughts concerning Mariners Radio moving back to KIRO? It will be New York Vinnie-less, since he was fired last year (thank god).
Don't really care
I live out of state and only listen to the radio on Saturday’s when games are blacked out.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Doesn't matter to me. As long as I can hear the game I'm fine.
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Same announce crew?
Well, save for sparing us the shit-ton of ads KOMO piled onto their gamecasts, it should be the same.
Washburn would be a better fit for the Texas Rangers.
They have a good supply of young hitters the Mariners could use in return.
Hello, Department of Homeland Security.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never heard of this baseball practice
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The hell, Coach got mean?
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what?
So is making people look at your face.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I want to give it a few weeks to make sure it doesn't wear thin
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 22, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but it's too broad.
It’s as overapplied as something that is applied far too often.
I'm absolving you of any blame for all harsh words
And instead choose to blame Robert
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Party Van time for you.
Hi there FBI!
"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."
by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
BIGGER
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
BIGGEST
"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."
by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are the worst commenters ever
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 22, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We're lacking in leadership when you take threads off
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
GOD
We kept the other three thread baseball centric. Stop posting so many, we run out of material.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have boxed Matthew for being a complete Grade-A douchebag to me in the Washburn thread.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea what inspired that comment from you.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would I think Carpenter would be any sort of a big help?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I have no idea what's going on here anymore.
I was trying to figure out where I was a douchebag to you.
It was a douchey thing to say then I over exaggerated the offense I took.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, there was that one time.
You know, when Jeff was gone and you were in charge of the gamethread, you said “New thread up in fifteen” and I said “Fifteen minutes or posts?” and then you said something like “Fifteen moonphases. Of course, minutes. When did we ever open a new thread because of the number of posts?”.
"Hole in one, eh?"
Counting comments is annoying/impossible when they come so quickly
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Two posts down you have the Obligatory Trade Jarrod Washburn Post
It has the same topic as this post. We said what we needed to say in that one; what were we supposed to talk about here?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
At least our comment is... regressing?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
You guys are the worst sexiest commenters ever
FTFY
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
But he's for real!!!!
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
As was Aaron Sele in 2005.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are bad comparisons.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel nauseated just thinking about not trading Washburn
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
GOD
I HATE HOW THIS TEAM THINKS
I knew after yesterday there would be talk of keeping him. STUPID
That wasn't too bright.
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Have you read the book Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions?
It’s a Mad Magazine spin-off. You might like it.
Coach Owens justifiably slams a silly question.
I never thought I’d see the day. It’s like he came back from winter league with a new sense of purpose. He might crack the top ten LL prospects list this winter.
You're not on that either.
We have a year before we’d have to put you on.
Bluebird Banter will take him in the expansion draft.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
See this is why I don't take boxing seriously, because neither do you
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
Why'd you say "is boxable?" What is boxable?
(I refreshed the page)
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
More or less silly than our shortstop?
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 22, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
How many team's shortstops can float in the ocean...our's can!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Obviously less

You know, when you hide subthreads it causes the z-scrolling to malfunction, at least for me, because it wants to scroll to the new comments I can’t see but it isn’t able to.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It still works if you don't refresh.
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I refreshed to see my ban message
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Now you're screwed.
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It's really been going downhill for quite some time.
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Part of the problem, aside from the corruption ;P
is that fights these days are 12 rounds of glorified sparring. We just don’t see drag-out fights like Arguello/Pryor anymore, where both guys are trying to knock each other the fuck out.
Has Almost Live been released on DVD ever?
If not, damn I wish it will. Tired of browsing youtube for my favorite scenes.
Before it dies...
Will the M’s use Bedard’s MRI/injury status as a reason/excuse NOT to trade Washburn?
I hadn't thought of that before
God I hope not
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, they're finally admitting that Bedard's DL stint wasn't just a paper move
his shoulder’s sore, and not getting any better.
A smart team judges the Washburn thing separately from Bedard’s injury, because it doesn’t matter at all if Washburn might make the M’s marginally more competitive in 8-10 more games versus RRS or Ryan Ketchner. But the M’s would have to admit that they aren’t trying to win more games by trading Wash, and that’s what they’re reluctant to do. For reasons that nobody else comprehends.
I can just see some press conference with Lee or Armstrong telling gullible reporters that the team COULDN’T trade Wash, with the injury to Bedard, the injuries in AAA, RRS wasn’t ready, Batista still struggling, blah blah blah owe it to the fans best chance to win timing didn’t work out etc.
And that's a shame
because on the field and in the standings, it’s obvious the team is done for and has been done for in 2008 for months.
Is your argument that the M's will do the smart thing
and trade Washburn because the ALTERNATIVE would require thinking?
That’s insane.
just insane enough to WORK!
Nope. They just won't think of using Bedard's injury as an excuse to keep Wash.
They’ll keep him because “Oh, hai, he’s pitching well.”
"Hole in one, eh?"
You know
its almost come to the point where reading LL reminds me of a lot of the ancillary crap we had to sift through on the old ESPN boards circa 2002-2003.
Its almost not fun to read anything but the posts these days.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Hey, it's not easy when your team is tied for the second worst record in all of baseball.
"Hole in one, eh?"
That's good!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Your fault for reading it.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Over at USSMariner I typically look for only DMZ, Derek, Jeff Nye comments and if they are interesting I'll read backwards up the comment section.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Dave?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 22, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, he said Jose Lopez was bad at something
burn the witch!
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 23, 2008 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess these are the places you gravitate towards, segmentation_fault.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
I blame moving every 2 years as a kid. I can’t stay around any group of people for a prolonged period without getting tired and wanting to move on.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
At least there's more variety here.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

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