Obligatory Trade Jarrod Washburn Post
His last ten starts:
3.03 ERA
62.1 IP
10 times made it into the sixth inning
7 times made it into the seventh inning
Faced, limited strong Boston, New York, Atlanta offenses
This team has been on the receiving end of a lot of crappy luck so far this year, but at least the universe is conspiring to make Jarrod Washburn tradeable at just the perfect time. That's a big deal, because ditching Washburn - even if all we get in return is salary relief and a busted prospect - is a vital step in any well thought-out plan to make this team a contender next season. They can just get so much more for the money than Washburn currently provides.
Make it happen, Lee. For the next week and a half, trying to move Jarrod Washburn should be priority #1. Okay, so if I had my druthers, moving Yuniesky Betancourt would be priority #1, but since no one's talking about that I doubt it's being considered, so realistically, Washburn is it. Move him. Put all of your eggs in this basket if you have to. It's not like you really have anything else to think about, since Ibanez sells himself and the Bedard front's gone cold. This is what ought to be commanding the bulk of your attention, and honestly, if you can't pull it off, that's not going to reflect very well on you. I know teams are getting smarter and all, but a hot pitcher's a hot pitcher, and come deadline time a starter like Washburn shouldn't be that hard to ship off.
Do it. Don't play hardball with anyone. Just do it. Do it do it do it, and don't look back.
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I bet Armstrong and Lincoln don't allow him to make any trades.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 12:32 AM PDT 0 recs
What would be the best possible outcome of a Washburn trade?
A team’s 10th best prospect?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 12:37 AM PDT 0 recs
You should know better than to even think about the best possible anything
by Jeff on
Jul 22, 2008 12:43 AM PDT
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I hear that carrot could be mighty tasty
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 22, 2008 12:59 AM PDT
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But the aftertaste is definitely more stick-like.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Jul 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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I wonder if Sean Green has any value, he has been awesome all year and I keep hearing about teams needing bullpen arms.
"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."
by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 1:28 AM PDT 0 recs
Only if we can find a team that values bullpen arms like Baker did in his pieces last year...
by SethGrandpa on
Jul 22, 2008 2:09 AM PDT
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This trade is acceptable to me
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 7:20 AM PDT
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Throw in Morrow and we can talk.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
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Throw in Washburn and Rhodes
and you can have Pineiro, Villone, and Franklin.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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Do we get (the length of Franklin's contract) supply of HGH as well so he can continue his deal with the devil?
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:08 AM PDT
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He deal with the devil is to torment me by pitching like ass.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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Don't deals with the devil typically result in good things happening to the dealer for a short period of time?
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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That was just Winn/Cameron/Ichiro
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
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Washburn and Betancourt to the Dodgers for Ethier.
Make it happen Lee.
by houseofprime on Jul 22, 2008 3:38 AM PDT 0 recs
Hold out for Kershaw!
Hey, you never know until you ask…
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 6:59 AM PDT
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Heh, I'd take any one of the Dodgers MLB ready young guys
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT
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They seem to hate LaRoche
so I think we could get him before we could get Ethier.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on
Jul 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
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I'm ok with trading anyone as long as the return makes sense.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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Who wouldn't be?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
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I'd be opposed to trading Lopez or Felix just because I need them on this team
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT
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If you could trade Felix for Joba, Hanley Ramirez and Justin Mornaeu (SP?) straight up, you wouldn't do it?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Okay,
(insert favorite young pitcher other than Felix here).
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
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I couldn't bring myself to
If I wasn’t a fan of at least some of our players, it’d be hard to be a fan of this team. I simply couldn’t bring myself to trade away Felix
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on
Jul 22, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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I kind of look forward to J-Wash days now.
He’s our 2nd best starter (Bedard on DL, Dickey only a handful of starts so far), and he hasn’t dissapointed with his pitching as of late. It’s always fun to see how high his trade value can go. As bad as he is, we can legitimately say that he is a lot better of a deal than 2/4 of the rest of the rotation (He might even be a better deal than Bedard, since Bedard cost us prospects and GS52).
If we can get anything out of him, I’ll be happy to see him go to a winning team and I’ll be happy to have some salary relief, and hopefully a Luis Valbuena-type prospect would be nice as well. Though Yuni+Wash for one of the Dodgers young players does have me drooling.
by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT 0 recs
HE's so good now that we're going to keep him.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT 0 recs
Building towards the future presented by Banner Bank
LHP Jarrod Washburn
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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More like "helping rebuild for the future"
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT
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But they already have a "Building for the Future" segment
saves money on the graphics to buy some more hot dogs for Silva
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
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That would be a nightmare.
And actually possible. That’s the problem with our organization, is we hold on to guys too long. We buy high, expecting sustained peak production, and sell low when we’ve held onto our assets for too long.
by LantermanC on
Jul 22, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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Young left-handed pitching can't be trusted in a pennant race.


by Alex B on Jul 22, 2008 9:33 AM PDT 1 recs
How about Brignac?
Seriously, you guys have Bartlett now, and um..cough Washburn could be a snicker steadying influence on your young staff. mmmph
Really, what’s Brignac’s value to the Rays right now? Less with Beckham in the system, or doesn’t it matter?
by marc w on
Jul 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT
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Probably doesn't matter.
If both make it on the team long-term one would just slide over to second—assuming Iwamura doesn’t get an extension.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
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OK, but Brignac's tradeable, right?
You mentioned him in your big trade post…
I know you and Rays probably don’t have a ton of interest in Wash, but man, I think Reid needs a change of scenery and the M’s seriously need a SS.
by marc w on
Jul 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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Certainly
He’s probably one of the top trading chips we have when you consider Bartlett being under team control for the next few years and Beckham’s arrival coming sometime around then.
The problem is the M’s don’t have much of what the Rays need.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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That is AWESOME! hahahah
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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Can someone get a gif of Manny from the other night?
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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What did we say about asking?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
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It took me a second to catch the sarcasm.
I was kind of freaked out at first.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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Washburn to the Yankees?
Olney says the Yankees are seriously considering it.
Jacob (Brooklyn): Do you really think Washburn is a good fit with the Yankees because he has a good ERA in 38.1 innings at Yankee Stadium?
Buster Olney: (1:26 PM ET ) Jacob: I think it's a factor they will look at -- he's a lefty flyball pitcher who changes speeds well and has a nice post-season history. To me, he's a perfect fit for them, the way that George Sherrill makes complete sense for the Brewers or the Angels.
—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-
John (NY): Why all the Washburn rumors? Where is this originating from?
Buster Olney: (1:27 PM ET ) John: It should be on our site. I filed something an hour ago (but haven't checked) on it. It is being discussed seriously by the Yankees.
by gustafm on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT 0 recs
The Yankees are the new Phillies
Quick, lets try to dump Vidro on them too!
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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It did say they needed a sp, a rp, and a catcher...
Johjima, Washburn, and Rhodes? For something semi-decent? Or not, and no salary committments for us?
by LantermanC on
Jul 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
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For Philip Hughes
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
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Olney was asked what the Yanks Would give up...
He said:
Kei Igawa and another secondary prospect
by gustafm on
Jul 22, 2008 10:36 AM PDT
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Oh, that should be hilarious
I mean, I don’t care about the return in general, but Igawa would be the Japanese Cibney Bello.
by Gomez on
Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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They need an OF too with Matsui likely gone for the year.
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuul!
by Matthew on
Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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They've seen this

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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Could we even get a return that would be better than draft pick compensation?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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I'm shocked we could get anything worth while.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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GOD NO
SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:10 PM ET ) George: If I had to guess today (and that’s all it is—a guesstimate based on current conditions).
1. Milwaukee
2. Angels
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT 0 recs
Uh, Buster...
... teams don’t trade key MLB pieces within their own division.
by Gomez on
Jul 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
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Out of curiosity... who did you think it was?
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
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What's the question?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on
Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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Sorry, god cut off
George Sherrill (Baltimore?): Hey Buster, where am I going to be August 1st? What should my O’s expect in return?
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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*got
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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You'd think that He of all people would appreciate the Verizon network
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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I've had a bad week and I'm terrified of going to Safeco tonight
only to watch DiceK no-hit us.
Sherrill to the Angels would be a thousand times worse.
by katal on
Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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Trade you.
I’ll be across the street at the Judas Preist concert. Yay.
$72.00 per ticket, can you believe that?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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Nope.
My friends bought the tickets, and when they said $72.00, I figured it must be for the pair. If I had known they were that much each, I wouldn’t have gone.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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Halford.
You’re making an uber-metal lead singer (Rob Halford + James Hetfield = Rob Hatfield)
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phildopip on
Jul 22, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
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I knew what you meant.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on
Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
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I'd love to be at a no-hitter, whether or not my team got no-hit
just to say I saw one live
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by seattlebruin on
Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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I'm predicting that this will be the best birthday of my life
July 31 – Washburn, Raul, Rhodes, I hope you guys are gone.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT 0 recs
So,
what kind of package from LAD would it take to part with Beltre? LaRoche + Hu? LaRoche and Ethier? Kershaw? Kemp? Loney?
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT 0 recs



