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Obligatory Trade Jarrod Washburn Post

Wbc_029_tiny by Jeff Sullivan on in The More You Know Comment 214 comments

His last ten starts:

3.03 ERA
62.1 IP
10 times made it into the sixth inning
7 times made it into the seventh inning
Faced, limited strong Boston, New York, Atlanta offenses

This team has been on the receiving end of a lot of crappy luck so far this year, but at least the universe is conspiring to make Jarrod Washburn tradeable at just the perfect time. That's a big deal, because ditching Washburn - even if all we get in return is salary relief and a busted prospect - is a vital step in any well thought-out plan to make this team a contender next season. They can just get so much more for the money than Washburn currently provides.

Make it happen, Lee. For the next week and a half, trying to move Jarrod Washburn should be priority #1. Okay, so if I had my druthers, moving Yuniesky Betancourt would be priority #1, but since no one's talking about that I doubt it's being considered, so realistically, Washburn is it. Move him. Put all of your eggs in this basket if you have to. It's not like you really have anything else to think about, since Ibanez sells himself and the Bedard front's gone cold. This is what ought to be commanding the bulk of your attention, and honestly, if you can't pull it off, that's not going to reflect very well on you. I know teams are getting smarter and all, but a hot pitcher's a hot pitcher, and come deadline time a starter like Washburn shouldn't be that hard to ship off.

Do it. Don't play hardball with anyone. Just do it. Do it do it do it, and don't look back.

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Hold out for Kershaw!

Hey, you never know until you ask…

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They seem to hate LaRoche

so I think we could get him before we could get Ethier.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who wouldn't be?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

(insert favorite young pitcher other than Felix here).

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't bring myself to

If I wasn’t a fan of at least some of our players, it’d be hard to be a fan of this team. I simply couldn’t bring myself to trade away Felix

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of look forward to J-Wash days now.

He’s our 2nd best starter (Bedard on DL, Dickey only a handful of starts so far), and he hasn’t dissapointed with his pitching as of late. It’s always fun to see how high his trade value can go. As bad as he is, we can legitimately say that he is a lot better of a deal than 2/4 of the rest of the rotation (He might even be a better deal than Bedard, since Bedard cost us prospects and GS52).
If we can get anything out of him, I’ll be happy to see him go to a winning team and I’ll be happy to have some salary relief, and hopefully a Luis Valbuena-type prospect would be nice as well. Though Yuni+Wash for one of the Dodgers young players does have me drooling.

by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HE's so good now that we're going to keep him.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Building towards the future presented by Banner Bank

LHP Jarrod Washburn

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they already have a "Building for the Future" segment

saves money on the graphics to buy some more hot dogs for Silva

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be a nightmare.

And actually possible. That’s the problem with our organization, is we hold on to guys too long. We buy high, expecting sustained peak production, and sell low when we’ve held onto our assets for too long.

by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Brignac?

Seriously, you guys have Bartlett now, and um..cough Washburn could be a snicker steadying influence on your young staff. mmmph

Really, what’s Brignac’s value to the Rays right now? Less with Beckham in the system, or doesn’t it matter?

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably doesn't matter.

If both make it on the team long-term one would just slide over to second—assuming Iwamura doesn’t get an extension.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, but Brignac's tradeable, right?

You mentioned him in your big trade post…

I know you and Rays probably don’t have a ton of interest in Wash, but man, I think Reid needs a change of scenery and the M’s seriously need a SS.

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly

He’s probably one of the top trading chips we have when you consider Bartlett being under team control for the next few years and Beckham’s arrival coming sometime around then.

The problem is the M’s don’t have much of what the Rays need.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raul!

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH!

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is AWESOME! hahahah

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did we say about asking?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plllllllllllease

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DMZ had me rolling

This and this. Insincerity at its finest.

by Gomez on Jul 22, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It took me a second to catch the sarcasm.

I was kind of freaked out at first.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washburn to the Yankees?

Olney says the Yankees are seriously considering it.

Jacob (Brooklyn): Do you really think Washburn is a good fit with the Yankees because he has a good ERA in 38.1 innings at Yankee Stadium? 

Buster Olney: (1:26 PM ET ) Jacob: I think it's a factor they will look at -- he's a lefty flyball pitcher who changes speeds well and has a nice post-season history. To me, he's a perfect fit for them, the way that George Sherrill makes complete sense for the Brewers or the Angels.

—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-
John (NY): Why all the Washburn rumors? Where is this originating from? 

Buster Olney: (1:27 PM ET ) John: It should be on our site. I filed something an hour ago (but haven't checked) on it. It is being discussed seriously by the Yankees.

by gustafm on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees are the new Phillies

Quick, lets try to dump Vidro on them too!

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It did say they needed a sp, a rp, and a catcher...

Johjima, Washburn, and Rhodes? For something semi-decent? Or not, and no salary committments for us?

by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Philip Hughes

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Olney was asked what the Yanks Would give up...

He said:

Kei Igawa and another secondary prospect

by gustafm on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, that should be hilarious

I mean, I don’t care about the return in general, but Igawa would be the Japanese Cibney Bello.

by Gomez on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD NO

SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:10 PM ET ) George: If I had to guess today (and that’s all it is—a guesstimate based on current conditions).

1. Milwaukee
2. Angels

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, Buster...

... teams don’t trade key MLB pieces within their own division.

by Gomez on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the question?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, god cut off

George Sherrill (Baltimore?): Hey Buster, where am I going to be August 1st? What should my O’s expect in return?

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*got

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've had a bad week and I'm terrified of going to Safeco tonight

only to watch DiceK no-hit us.

Sherrill to the Angels would be a thousand times worse.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade you.

I’ll be across the street at the Judas Preist concert. Yay.

$72.00 per ticket, can you believe that?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding

Rob Hatfield is a lucky guy.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

My friends bought the tickets, and when they said $72.00, I figured it must be for the pair. If I had known they were that much each, I wouldn’t have gone.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Halford.

You’re making an uber-metal lead singer (Rob Halford + James Hetfield = Rob Hatfield)

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on Jul 22, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I knew “Rob Hatfield” didn’t sound right.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew what you meant.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to be at a no-hitter, whether or not my team got no-hit

just to say I saw one live

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm predicting that this will be the best birthday of my life

July 31 – Washburn, Raul, Rhodes, I hope you guys are gone.

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So,

what kind of package from LAD would it take to part with Beltre? LaRoche + Hu? LaRoche and Ethier? Kershaw? Kemp? Loney?

by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It this a ESPN chat question?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take Loney + Kershaw + Kemp

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd do it for any two of Ethier, Kemp, LaRoche, or Loney

Except for LaRoche/Kemp.

Or I’d do Kershaw straight up.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kershaw+Elbert

Hold out for both!

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw in Yuni!

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

Am I missing something?

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you?

Dodger SS prospect? At AA Jacksonville? No pop, decent plate discipline? rated btwn 10-20 in LA ‘spects?

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

I only knew of David.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take Loney, Ethier and Kim Ng

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Ethier, 2008

.281/.347/.462

.229 LD, .309 BABIP, .112 HR/FB

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

James Loney is OPSing .822 with an HR/FB of .07

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd give up way too much for a Loney/Ethier package

That would solve so many of our needs instantly.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure how much we have to give up for Ethier. Seems to me he's one of those criminally underrated guys

RZR ~.900 over the last two seasons split between LF and RF too.

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, I should adopt the Dodgers as my SoCal MLB team

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already have

its made the baseball season so much more enjoyable. A team that wins every now and then, is in a pennant race, Chad Billingsley and Vin Scully.

Mind you the Dodgers aren’t without their frustrations long periods of no offense, DeWitt continuing to start, Andruw Jones striking out so much that he makes Mike Cameron look like Tony Gwynn etc etc.

But the young talent just keeps getting better and forcing Coletti to use them over the shit veterans.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

Round 2 and the Semis/Finals of the WBC will all be in Southern California. No way I miss these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_World_Baseball_Classic

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the Buster Olney chat
JR (NY): Who would the Yanks have to give up to get a guy like Washburn?

SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:22 PM ET ) JR: Kei Igawa, and another secondary prospect. They’re taking on a lot of money (about $13-14 million), so they won’t have to give up much.

How large is Igawa’s contract again? This doesn’t make any sense for the Mariners.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Igawa's contract = through 2011

about $12m total for 09-11. I guess they’d have to pay half or so of the $4m he’s making this year.
It’s a lot less, but yeah, that’s not exactly a great deal for the M’s.

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought

Even at 4M, Igawa doesn’t interest me at all. We already have a deluge of #4-5 starters. I’d rather hold out and see what we can package for an Andre Ethier or a Alberto Callaspo.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather keep Washburn if that was the return.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But but but but JAPANESE ACE!

/DOV

One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power

by Goose on Jul 22, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But but SUCK

/LL

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for fun

Here’s DOV talking up the Ho/Soriano trade.

by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was right though.

Igawa does remind me a lot of Barry Zito.

by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not available

the Dodgers wanted him and the Pirates said no.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuni is available!

(Other teams could be watching)

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only for the right price, other teams

FANTASTIC defensive SS’s who hit decently and are cheap are pretty valuable. You’d better be ready to cough up James Loney if you want Yuni

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Dodgers might be targeting

John McDonald now.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which makes sense

since he’d probably be pretty cheap too.

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Mariners trade wet dream is that somehow the Dodgers whiff on every SS out there

and out of desperation offer up James Loney or Andy LaRoche or something straight up for Yuni

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRoche maybe

Loney no way.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strasburg?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure this is the easiest way to give all the young players a chance to play

and ensure that them doing well won’t hurt us too badly because Vidro will kill every top of the order rally

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I'd like to keep an anchor or two to help the Strasburg standings.

There’s lots of room to get the young guys a shot with Clement up, Sexson gone and Raul on the way out

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where would you play LaRoche?

DH? 1B? SS?

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Lopez is hitting .300!

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT, but I just saw that Calaboro is going to be the voice of the Sounders FC.

That’s cool he’s staying in Seattle.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome

I’m glad he got a new gig in Seattle.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so excited about this

He’s a Seattle institution, and while it’s tough to say that an announcer can give a new minor sport franchise a boost, well, it’s Kevin Fucking Calabro.
I’ll have to bring a radio to the games….

by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fuck?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

godammit this shit pisses me off

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Houston even in it?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're only 10 games back.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

12

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning the division is overrated.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do.

But I’m not that far under 40.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so obviously you'd rather win the divsion.

But if you are say, 15 games out of first, but only two back in the WC, would you consider yourself 15 back, or just 2 back?

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on the WC situation, like Bruin notes below.

But I do make a distinction (not that I’d complain if the M’s were in the wildcard race).

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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they're in fifth place in their own division...

ten or more games back of three different teams, of which they’d need to catch at least two and hope the NLE rep doesn’t steal the WC from them. This doesn’t make a whole lot of sense…

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's odd, isn't it.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if you just say "oh well, it's not like they gave up anyone good"

you’re still paying a half season of his salary for no apparent reason. He’s from SoCal, so it’s not like you’re bring a local guy back to attract fan interest either.

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be. Also could be a ploy and hope he turns into a type B

offer him arb and if he takes it, cool, try and compete next year, if not, you just got a much better player than the one you gave up.

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smart thinking.

You think Wade is that smart?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he does, he must have finally let him out of the dungeon.

Because he hasn’t been much help before this.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was holding out for AJ Burnett anyway.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear Seattle has a

good SP or two available for the right price

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After last night nothing you can say or do will hurt me.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Via Rosenthal:
The immediate reaction of several executives to the Astros’ pursuit of Padres left-hander Randy Wolf, which was first reported by ESPN.com: Why? Wolf is 1-6 with a 6.63 ERA in 10 starts away from Petco Park. He has not made more than 23 starts in a season since 2003. And, oh yeah, the Astros are 10 games out in the wild-card race. ...

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

What did they give up for him?

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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm perfectly calm.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing of use I assume.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly couldn't tell you how intelligent the Cards FO is

based on the Pineiro signing I’m going to say not retarded, but certainly not brilliant.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This hurts us in the Washburn arena.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it?

Perhaps it encourages the Cards to go out and get another pitcher

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps.

But if all SD got was filler, then our hopes of getting much more than that are slim.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

objectively, I’d give him Villone’s job.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that Villone has been terrible

but LOOGYs hurt more than they help.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so your St. Louis

Carpenter and Wainwright are both supposed to return in ~10 days, why the fuck would you trade for Washburn?

If you aren’t getting Maddux or Burnett you’re better of finding a relief ace or a shortstop.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuni?

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not, but there's a sucker born every moniute.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're not making that move unless there's a much better bat involved.

LaRussa can put together a fucking lineup.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How 'bout WFB?

He’s a “hot” bat recently.

AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...

by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he'd like to play in the NL

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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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