Obligatory Trade Jarrod Washburn Post
His last ten starts:
3.03 ERA
62.1 IP
10 times made it into the sixth inning
7 times made it into the seventh inning
Faced, limited strong Boston, New York, Atlanta offenses
This team has been on the receiving end of a lot of crappy luck so far this year, but at least the universe is conspiring to make Jarrod Washburn tradeable at just the perfect time. That's a big deal, because ditching Washburn - even if all we get in return is salary relief and a busted prospect - is a vital step in any well thought-out plan to make this team a contender next season. They can just get so much more for the money than Washburn currently provides.
Make it happen, Lee. For the next week and a half, trying to move Jarrod Washburn should be priority #1. Okay, so if I had my druthers, moving Yuniesky Betancourt would be priority #1, but since no one's talking about that I doubt it's being considered, so realistically, Washburn is it. Move him. Put all of your eggs in this basket if you have to. It's not like you really have anything else to think about, since Ibanez sells himself and the Bedard front's gone cold. This is what ought to be commanding the bulk of your attention, and honestly, if you can't pull it off, that's not going to reflect very well on you. I know teams are getting smarter and all, but a hot pitcher's a hot pitcher, and come deadline time a starter like Washburn shouldn't be that hard to ship off.
Do it. Don't play hardball with anyone. Just do it. Do it do it do it, and don't look back.
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I bet Armstrong and Lincoln don't allow him to make any trades.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Jul 22, 2008 12:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What would be the best possible outcome of a Washburn trade?
A team’s 10th best prospect?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 12:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You should know better than to even think about the best possible anything
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 22, 2008 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that carrot could be mighty tasty
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the aftertaste is definitely more stick-like.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Jul 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Sean Green has any value, he has been awesome all year and I keep hearing about teams needing bullpen arms.
"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."
by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 1:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only if we can find a team that values bullpen arms like Baker did in his pieces last year...
by SethGrandpa on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This trade is acceptable to me
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Morrow and we can talk.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Washburn and Rhodes
and you can have Pineiro, Villone, and Franklin.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we get (the length of Franklin's contract) supply of HGH as well so he can continue his deal with the devil?
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He deal with the devil is to torment me by pitching like ass.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't deals with the devil typically result in good things happening to the dealer for a short period of time?
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was just Winn/Cameron/Ichiro
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn and Betancourt to the Dodgers for Ethier.
Make it happen Lee.
by houseofprime on Jul 22, 2008 3:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold out for Kershaw!
Hey, you never know until you ask…
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, I'd take any one of the Dodgers MLB ready young guys
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They seem to hate LaRoche
so I think we could get him before we could get Ethier.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with trading anyone as long as the return makes sense.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who wouldn't be?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be opposed to trading Lopez or Felix just because I need them on this team
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you could trade Felix for Joba, Hanley Ramirez and Justin Mornaeu (SP?) straight up, you wouldn't do it?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't bring myself to
If I wasn’t a fan of at least some of our players, it’d be hard to be a fan of this team. I simply couldn’t bring myself to trade away Felix
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of look forward to J-Wash days now.
He’s our 2nd best starter (Bedard on DL, Dickey only a handful of starts so far), and he hasn’t dissapointed with his pitching as of late. It’s always fun to see how high his trade value can go. As bad as he is, we can legitimately say that he is a lot better of a deal than 2/4 of the rest of the rotation (He might even be a better deal than Bedard, since Bedard cost us prospects and GS52).
If we can get anything out of him, I’ll be happy to see him go to a winning team and I’ll be happy to have some salary relief, and hopefully a Luis Valbuena-type prospect would be nice as well. Though Yuni+Wash for one of the Dodgers young players does have me drooling.
by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HE's so good now that we're going to keep him.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Building towards the future presented by Banner Bank
LHP Jarrod Washburn
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like "helping rebuild for the future"
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Jul 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they already have a "Building for the Future" segment
saves money on the graphics to buy some more hot dogs for Silva
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a nightmare.
And actually possible. That’s the problem with our organization, is we hold on to guys too long. We buy high, expecting sustained peak production, and sell low when we’ve held onto our assets for too long.
by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young left-handed pitching can't be trusted in a pennant race.


by Alex B on Jul 22, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How about Brignac?
Seriously, you guys have Bartlett now, and um..cough Washburn could be a snicker steadying influence on your young staff. mmmph
Really, what’s Brignac’s value to the Rays right now? Less with Beckham in the system, or doesn’t it matter?
by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably doesn't matter.
If both make it on the team long-term one would just slide over to second—assuming Iwamura doesn’t get an extension.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, but Brignac's tradeable, right?
You mentioned him in your big trade post…
I know you and Rays probably don’t have a ton of interest in Wash, but man, I think Reid needs a change of scenery and the M’s seriously need a SS.
by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly
He’s probably one of the top trading chips we have when you consider Bartlett being under team control for the next few years and Beckham’s arrival coming sometime around then.
The problem is the M’s don’t have much of what the Rays need.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raul!
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is AWESOME! hahahah
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone get a gif of Manny from the other night?
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did we say about asking?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plllllllllllease
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Jul 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It took me a second to catch the sarcasm.
I was kind of freaked out at first.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn to the Yankees?
Olney says the Yankees are seriously considering it.
Jacob (Brooklyn): Do you really think Washburn is a good fit with the Yankees because he has a good ERA in 38.1 innings at Yankee Stadium?
Buster Olney: (1:26 PM ET ) Jacob: I think it's a factor they will look at -- he's a lefty flyball pitcher who changes speeds well and has a nice post-season history. To me, he's a perfect fit for them, the way that George Sherrill makes complete sense for the Brewers or the Angels.
—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-
John (NY): Why all the Washburn rumors? Where is this originating from?
Buster Olney: (1:27 PM ET ) John: It should be on our site. I filed something an hour ago (but haven't checked) on it. It is being discussed seriously by the Yankees.
by gustafm on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees are the new Phillies
Quick, lets try to dump Vidro on them too!
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did say they needed a sp, a rp, and a catcher...
Johjima, Washburn, and Rhodes? For something semi-decent? Or not, and no salary committments for us?
by LantermanC on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Philip Hughes
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olney was asked what the Yanks Would give up...
He said:
Kei Igawa and another secondary prospect
by gustafm on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that should be hilarious
I mean, I don’t care about the return in general, but Igawa would be the Japanese Cibney Bello.
by Gomez on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need an OF too with Matsui likely gone for the year.
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuul!
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've seen this

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could we even get a return that would be better than draft pick compensation?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they'd give us Austin Jackson yes.
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked we could get anything worth while.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOD NO
SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:10 PM ET ) George: If I had to guess today (and that’s all it is—a guesstimate based on current conditions).
1. Milwaukee
2. Angels
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, Buster...
... teams don’t trade key MLB pieces within their own division.
by Gomez on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity... who did you think it was?
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the question?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, god cut off
George Sherrill (Baltimore?): Hey Buster, where am I going to be August 1st? What should my O’s expect in return?
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*got
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
needs more mobile reception towers up in heaven.
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think that He of all people would appreciate the Verizon network
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had a bad week and I'm terrified of going to Safeco tonight
only to watch DiceK no-hit us.
Sherrill to the Angels would be a thousand times worse.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade you.
I’ll be across the street at the Judas Preist concert. Yay.
$72.00 per ticket, can you believe that?
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding
Rob Hatfield is a lucky guy.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halford.
You’re making an uber-metal lead singer (Rob Halford + James Hetfield = Rob Hatfield)
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip
by Phildopip on Jul 22, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I knew “Rob Hatfield” didn’t sound right.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew what you meant.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to be at a no-hitter, whether or not my team got no-hit
just to say I saw one live
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm predicting that this will be the best birthday of my life
July 31 – Washburn, Raul, Rhodes, I hope you guys are gone.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So,
what kind of package from LAD would it take to part with Beltre? LaRoche + Hu? LaRoche and Ethier? Kershaw? Kemp? Loney?
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It this a ESPN chat question?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Loney + Kershaw + Kemp
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do it for any two of Ethier, Kemp, LaRoche, or Loney
Except for LaRoche/Kemp.
Or I’d do Kershaw straight up.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Yuni!
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
Am I missing something?
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you?
Dodger SS prospect? At AA Jacksonville? No pop, decent plate discipline? rated btwn 10-20 in LA ‘spects?
by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
I only knew of David.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Loney, Ethier and Kim Ng
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Ethier, 2008
.281/.347/.462
.229 LD, .309 BABIP, .112 HR/FB
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Loney is OPSing .822 with an HR/FB of .07
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd give up way too much for a Loney/Ethier package
That would solve so many of our needs instantly.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how much we have to give up for Ethier. Seems to me he's one of those criminally underrated guys
RZR ~.900 over the last two seasons split between LF and RF too.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, I should adopt the Dodgers as my SoCal MLB team
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already have
its made the baseball season so much more enjoyable. A team that wins every now and then, is in a pennant race, Chad Billingsley and Vin Scully.
Mind you the Dodgers aren’t without their frustrations long periods of no offense, DeWitt continuing to start, Andruw Jones striking out so much that he makes Mike Cameron look like Tony Gwynn etc etc.
But the young talent just keeps getting better and forcing Coletti to use them over the shit veterans.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap
Round 2 and the Semis/Finals of the WBC will all be in Southern California. No way I miss these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_World_Baseball_Classic
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the Buster Olney chat
JR (NY): Who would the Yanks have to give up to get a guy like Washburn?SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:22 PM ET ) JR: Kei Igawa, and another secondary prospect. They’re taking on a lot of money (about $13-14 million), so they won’t have to give up much.
How large is Igawa’s contract again? This doesn’t make any sense for the Mariners.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Igawa's contract = through 2011
about $12m total for 09-11. I guess they’d have to pay half or so of the $4m he’s making this year.
It’s a lot less, but yeah, that’s not exactly a great deal for the M’s.
by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olney is a Yankee homer, he's probably not going to say much that makes sense.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I thought
Even at 4M, Igawa doesn’t interest me at all. We already have a deluge of #4-5 starters. I’d rather hold out and see what we can package for an Andre Ethier or a Alberto Callaspo.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather keep Washburn if that was the return.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But but but but JAPANESE ACE!
/DOV
One Vision, One Purpose
Peace Through Power
by Goose on Jul 22, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But but SUCK
/LL
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is filled with gems
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for fun
Here’s DOV talking up the Ho/Soriano trade.
by katal on Jul 22, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was right though.
Igawa does remind me a lot of Barry Zito.
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jack Wilson is the only decent shortstop available.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's not available
the Dodgers wanted him and the Pirates said no.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Pirates just don't like the Dodgers.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuni is available!
(Other teams could be watching)
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only for the right price, other teams
FANTASTIC defensive SS’s who hit decently and are cheap are pretty valuable. You’d better be ready to cough up James Loney if you want Yuni
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers might be targeting
John McDonald now.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which makes sense
since he’d probably be pretty cheap too.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Mariners trade wet dream is that somehow the Dodgers whiff on every SS out there
and out of desperation offer up James Loney or Andy LaRoche or something straight up for Yuni
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche maybe
Loney no way.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do LaRoche for Yuni and go do some cartwheels.
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw Vidro in there and I'll do a triple back flip.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I support keeping Vidro for the whole season and batting him fourth every game
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure this is the easiest way to give all the young players a chance to play
and ensure that them doing well won’t hurt us too badly because Vidro will kill every top of the order rally
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see more young guys, so we have a better idea of what we need going into the offseason.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I'd like to keep an anchor or two to help the Strasburg standings.
There’s lots of room to get the young guys a shot with Clement up, Sexson gone and Raul on the way out
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where would you play LaRoche?
DH? 1B? SS?
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Lopez is hitting .300!
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like where this is headed
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't trade him; we just figured out how to pronounce LFOJL.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jul 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well LFoJL could always become the Last Fan of Johan Limonta or something
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Loney
You can be the Last Fan of James Loney
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Lopey and Jason LaRue have a child?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because you suck at moustache contests.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone should print this out like Red did for Beltre.
"Holy Shit, It's Steve Perry lead singer of Journey". "ha, FORMER Lead Singer."
by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 22, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT, but I just saw that Calaboro is going to be the voice of the Sounders FC.
That’s cool he’s staying in Seattle.
AKA "BRO-RAY" according to drunk Graham...
by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome
I’m glad he got a new gig in Seattle.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Jul 22, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soccer/371677_sounders22.html
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so excited about this
He’s a Seattle institution, and while it’s tough to say that an announcer can give a new minor sport franchise a boost, well, it’s Kevin Fucking Calabro.
I’ll have to bring a radio to the games….
by marc w on Jul 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Wolf was just traded to Houston
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3499705
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the fuck?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
godammit this shit pisses me off
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Houston even in it?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're only 10 games back.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
12
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning the division is overrated.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they have a shot at the division or the wildcard. Just seems like an odd move.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just found the comment weird since no one under 40 gives two shits whether you win the WC or the division
as long as you make the playoffs
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do.
But I’m not that far under 40.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, so obviously you'd rather win the divsion.
But if you are say, 15 games out of first, but only two back in the WC, would you consider yourself 15 back, or just 2 back?
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the WC situation, like Bruin notes below.
But I do make a distinction (not that I’d complain if the M’s were in the wildcard race).
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they're in fifth place in their own division...
ten or more games back of three different teams, of which they’d need to catch at least two and hope the NLE rep doesn’t steal the WC from them. This doesn’t make a whole lot of sense…
The Jose Lopez Watch - 116H - 13 BB - 64 G Left
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's odd, isn't it.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if you just say "oh well, it's not like they gave up anyone good"
you’re still paying a half season of his salary for no apparent reason. He’s from SoCal, so it’s not like you’re bring a local guy back to attract fan interest either.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Wade is trying to grease the skids and lock him up before he hits free agency.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be. Also could be a ploy and hope he turns into a type B
offer him arb and if he takes it, cool, try and compete next year, if not, you just got a much better player than the one you gave up.
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smart thinking.
You think Wade is that smart?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but maybe he has a smart AGM or something... maybe?
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he does, he must have finally let him out of the dungeon.
Because he hasn’t been much help before this.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was holding out for AJ Burnett anyway.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear Seattle has a
good SP or two available for the right price
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After last night nothing you can say or do will hurt me.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Via Rosenthal:
The immediate reaction of several executives to the Astros’ pursuit of Padres left-hander Randy Wolf, which was first reported by ESPN.com: Why? Wolf is 1-6 with a 6.63 ERA in 10 starts away from Petco Park. He has not made more than 23 starts in a season since 2003. And, oh yeah, the Astros are 10 games out in the wild-card race. ...
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
What did they give up for him?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm perfectly calm.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing of use I assume.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=26841
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly couldn't tell you how intelligent the Cards FO is
based on the Pineiro signing I’m going to say not retarded, but certainly not brilliant.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This hurts us in the Washburn arena.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it?
Perhaps it encourages the Cards to go out and get another pitcher
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps.
But if all SD got was filler, then our hopes of getting much more than that are slim.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we at least hope for jelly donut filler?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be gross without the donut shell
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
objectively, I’d give him Villone’s job.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that Villone has been terrible
but LOOGYs hurt more than they help.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, so your St. Louis
Carpenter and Wainwright are both supposed to return in ~10 days, why the fuck would you trade for Washburn?
If you aren’t getting Maddux or Burnett you’re better of finding a relief ace or a shortstop.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuni?
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How the the bell hells is Yuni even remotely better than Izturis?
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by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not, but there's a sucker born every moniute.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're not making that move unless there's a much better bat involved.
LaRussa can put together a fucking lineup.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout WFB?
He’s a “hot” bat recently.
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by Thingray on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he'd like to play in the NL
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see you tell Miles he just lost his job to Miles lite.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, once he's gone, not my problem
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by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...You think a team with Pineiro, Lucky Boy, and Villone would be unwatchable...
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny that you think Chris Carpenter can help St. Louis.
by Matthew on Jul 22, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny how you completely dismiss it.
Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.
by JI on Jul 22, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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