So I have to wait till I get back from my honeymoon till I make that run.

I can’t take any of his reviews seriously.

than I completely agree

I did get the idea that they want to bring Batgirl into the mix. The way the camera would never show Barbara Gordan’s face. It made me think they want the actress to “fit” into the movie series.

I thought it was perfect.

I’m just mad that Ledger had to die. A Joker in the 3rd would’ve been great

Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Batman Dead End (short)
Batman (Tim Burton)
the rest is horrible to embarrassing

Someone took all of their favorite things and put them in a blender.

Onion AV Club.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/watchmen/trailer

And it was sick

don’t forget about A Knight’s Tale… that was high cinema!

It’s an action movie. They’re hated on almost as much as comedies. Ledger for best actor is the only real shot.

Revolutionary Road, the Road, Guerilla/theArgentine and the Curious Case of Benjamin Button are all going to be favorites in all the major categories. If Sam Mendes fucks up Revolutionary Road I am going to be absolutely furious.

but Jack Nicholson was pretty good as the Joker in the Burton one.

wasn’t rated R for the tons of uses of the “S” word, then I doubt that this would be R.

He wanted Sandman to be a side character to Harry’s Green Goblin but the studio wanted Venom so he had to throw him in. If they make a 4th, expect it to be more like the first two. As a comic nerd I still liked Spider-Man 3…because I knew all the characters backstories whether or not they focused on them, but I can see how anyone who is not a Spider-Man die hard would hate it. And the dance scene with Gwen Stacy sucked.

Also, MJ should be the sassy girl, not Gwen. That’s my only complaint with the Spider-Man series. Kirsten Dunst sucks hard at being the sassy pushy bitch that MJ used to be.

like the SWAT team was taking care of him

was how he actually did seem to lose a bit of his veneer. Just a tiny bit. Could have been Heath having difficulty coping with inversion for a long period of time, but the dialog and delivery seemed a bit more direct, as opposed to the other confrontational scene in the interrogation room, where he was all jokes and cackles.

But yeah, all of those scenes hold up so well. I just watched it for the second time like five hours ago, and I can’t stop imitating “Why so SERIOUS?!?” Awesome, awesome performance.

That placed is cursed.

It’s reality, and something that people do not wish to accept. Of course, when the truth is eventually revealed, that’s another shitstorm right there.

If you don’t think the ends justify the means, when push comes to shove you’re going to get bullied by someone who does.

That’s a big dramatic element in the movie, and it’s something that will probably be more difficult for batman as he moves forward.

1. He didn’t surrender to the Joker’s demands, thus allowing everyone in Gotham to live in fear.

2. Batman “attacked” the S.W.A.T. team. (weakest argument)

3. Batman killed Harvey Dent, Gotham’s hero with a face.

The Joker said it was a “social experiment.” Social experiments usually carry a consequence people do no think about. The two ferries were told one thing, but they were being setup for their own selfish act. We will never know how it was actually supposed to go down, but the Joker’s mind game made everyone question themself.

I hadn’t thought of that, but after thinking about it and reading some of these responses, I have to say that counds like something the Joker would do.

Stalking got taken to a new level

I think most of us saw the same thing you did when it came to the movie not being centered on Batman or any of the other characters. You were much better at putting it into words in a single post.

ThatguywiththeGlasses’ Bum Reviews touched on this as well, albeit with a comedic angle.

“Everybody has a price to pay. I have a price to pay. I have an obligation to myself and to humanity. And all it took was a man in a flying bat suit to convince me of that. This movie made me question the morality of mankind forever. I think I’m gonna go home to my box, and think about the responsibility I have to the world, and I recommend you do the same.”

~Chester A. Bum

It has stood up to 2 theater viewings and multiple reviewings of certain scenes online.

Also this Christian Bale assault thingy is such a load of bullshit

Hilarious!

Yes, there are some weak plot points in the movie, but overall it was thrilling and does draw you in on the morality of man. Name me a movie that was perfect from start to finish. I venture to say there are few out there. This is why people consider books to be better than the movie. Movies have to cram everything into 2-3 hours. Books can go into great detail for chapters just to hash out any inconsistencies.

TDK is a great movie worth watching 2, 3, 4… 10 times in the theater (IMAX preferable). The last movie I ever did this with was Jurassic Park. This one is better. Who knows, maybe they will release an extra 30-60 minutes on the director’s cut DVD to fill in the holes.

Point 1: I agree with you, but, as Goose said earlier, Batman was the first to do it
Point 2: Throughout the movie, Harvey Dent was portrayed as a ruthless person. He wouldn’t kill anyone (in the scene where he had the gun to the schizophrenic’s head he was always going to flip heads and keep flipping), but he was close to it. The death of his loved one pushed him over the edge and he blamed the police (headed by Gordon) for not getting to her fast enough. I guess the link as to why he’d want to harm Gordon’s family is a bit weak, but it’s there.
Point 3: Batman did it first
Point 4: You would blow up a boat full of people?
Point 5: Why should they hate Batman? Because he “killed” Harvey Dent and all the other people Harvey killed. There are reasons given for Harvey being better than Batman. Batman is considered a vigilante and is hated by some for it-the police are ordered to arrest him on site. Harvey works for the state and is a symbol of the city and its government acting against crime, something that will restore the citizens’s faith in the legal system and faith in their city.
Point 6: Didn’t really care about that, thought it was more of a “ends justify the means” message
Point 7: I thought it was funny that he used his gravely voice to talk to Rachel when she was the only one nearby.

The things I agree with you on, points 1 and 7, partly point 2, aren’t nearly enough to say the movie sucked.

-Generally speaking, this movie had a bunch of the same (tiresome by this point) themes that every damn superhero movie has, but since it was darker, people feel the need to take it more seriously. E.g., Batman questioning whether he should give up being a superhero. Maybe he’s doing more harm than good! This happens in every superhero franchise. I didn’t find it particularly compelling the first time I encountered it, and it’s not any more interesting in this movie. I kept expecting Morgan Freeman to say “with great power comes great responsibility”….

This maybe your only semi-legit point in your whole post. But again, like I said(and like LFOJL said that I said) Batman did it first(or was one of the first).

-The DA guy’s character change: makes. no. fucking. sense. So some of those cops were corrupt… Why does he want to kill Gary Oldman’s family? Gary Oldman didn’t do anything to him. So… the Joker turned him evil by killing his gf and showing him “the folly of planning.”… This does not impress me. If this plot element was supposed to be “brainy” or “morally complex” than apparently I lack a brain and also lack moral curiosity.

It makes no sense? He’s TWO-FACE! That’s the whole point and background of the character. He blames the cops and Batman for choosing to save him and not Rachel. He doesn’t know that the Joker tricked them, so he feels that they purposely let Rachel die. To him, they are the ones that killed her, not the Joker. The Joker himself just reinforces and confirms this.

-The coin-tossing conceit in No Country for Old Men was awesome and rather chilling, whereas in the film, it was just rather lame and, frankly, confusing. Many films try to invoke fate or chance in the hopes of achieving some gravitas, but these attempts almost always wind up just being dumb.

The coin-tossing concept is part of the Two-Face character. It was there long before No Country for Old Men.

-People are fundamentally good, even hardened criminals (and we know that big black dudes are the hardenedest criminals of all…)! The Joker was wrong! Wooooooooooo people! Would people really react that way if faced with that boat situation? I don’t know, but I suspect not, since it only takes one. I do know that I can’t muster up the energy to care about that particular absurd situation. The only way I would have liked that scene is if the movie had taken seriously the idea that maybe they should blow up the other boat. I might have liked that.

I don’t know. Maybe, maybe not. It’s an entertaining way to make a good point. You’re thinking about it too hard. Why so serious?

The ending really was awful. We were supposed to feel somber or sad or heart-swellingly proud or some such thing when Batman has to go into hiding and they destroy the bat signal. But it’s hard to feel that when it doesn’t make any fucking sense! Why should the people of Gotham hate Batman? He seems like a great guy to me. Fights crime. Why celebrate the DA guy? Why were supposed to even like him in the first place? We were I guess supposed to accept the notion that he was the somehow better successor to Batman as the savior of the city who people could believe in or whatever, but there were no reasons given for that. It is just confusing!

Did you watch the movie? I think they did a pretty good job of explaining it. LFOJL brings up some good points.

-It invoked some contemporary debates about terrorism and surveillance, but didn’t really do much more than invoke them, and I would personally rather than films not invoke such things at all, as they (especially action movies) are quite poor vehicles for any insight into such matters. I challenge any of you: What did the movie say about such issues that was interesting in the slightest? One can probably draw absurd lessons right (such as in today’s WSJ…) or left, but in either case it is just people projecting their opinions onto the film.

Ok, I’ll agree with this. I didn’t really give a shit about the issues it was suggesting. But some people did. To each his own.

-Batman’s voice: what the fuck was up with that? It was terrible!

Batman has always had(or is supposed to anyways) a different voice that Bruce Wayne. It’s all part of the secret identity. Batman: TAS probably did the best job of this. Yeah Bale’s was a little weak, but so what? I’m glad he actually tried, unlike the last 3-4 Batman films.

This was literally the best film I’ve seen since the calendar switched to the 2000’s so there you go. I guess you can’t please everybody, but rest assured if I know you didn’t like this film I will never read another review by you for any other movie. Obviously our tastes couldn’t be any further apart.

Are Jeff/Matthew/Graham better, smarter, or more in tune with movie themes, plots, and tropes than the rest of us? Why would their opinions carry more weight than Goose or LFoJL?

That was a really insulting, obnoxious, and stupid post, which I blame on booze…. Got a little carried away…

I fell alseep during Talladega Nights. Blades of Glory had its moments, but overall, it wasn’t a great comedy.

Will Farrell is much better playing a supporting role rather than a leading role. He is hilarious in Old School, Wedding Crashers, and Zoolander. About the only lead role he was good in was Night At The Roxbury. Will Farrell is fun to watch be Will Farrell for about 10-15 minutes, not 2 hours.

I hope this movie doesn’t disappoint.

I think Nolan and Co. have done a great job at creating Scarecrow, Joker, and Two-face in a believable manner, when before they weren’t so believable. Batman himself is probably the most unbelievable character in the entire series and Nolan has made him a plausible figure.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with next. Although the Joker could probably be re-cast, I don’t think they will go there, which is unfortunate. I do hope they create a sophisticated Riddler after the Jim Carey abortion, though.

Hoffman – awesome. Depp – boring.

I can’t remember how young I was, must have been 9 or 10. I remember prayer the shopkeeper wouldn’t notice the “Intended for Mature Readers” marking. Needless to say, since then the Joker has terrified/fascinated me.

Little known fact: Alan Moore hates this comic because he feels the violence to Babs was misogynistic and robbed her (a full hero in her own right) of a hero’s farewell and instead turned her into a typical “female” who is made to suffer for no other reason than to further the plots of the male characters.