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What Went Wrong, Part 2: The Outfielders

Part 1

Even the most pessimistic among us didn't see this first half coming and on the whole as a community we were cautiously optimistic about the team's overall chances. What did we miss? In an effort to see if we erred in judgment, I've decided to review the community projections made at the start of the season against the first half performances and see where they diverge.

Raul Ibanez:
Projected: .276/.343/.447
Actual: .273/.338/.438

We expected some pretty big regression in Raul's bat this season going from a .831 OPS in 2007 down to a .790 OPS in 2008 with most of the downfall coming in the form of hits with a 15 point drop in average and a 33 point drop in slugging. We were pretty accurate in that regard as Raul's first half line stands at .273/.338/.438 against the projected .276/.343/.447.

Once again, we have a partial victim of bad luck with a 20.6% line drive rate against a .290 BABIP which is the lowest number in the past five seasons for Raul. However, his HR/FB% continues to fall, down to 8.3% from 11.0% suggesting that Raul might be running on fumes at this point, relying on better contact and a better eye to supplant a rapidly diminishing power ability. Now would be a perfect opportunity to bid farewell. That being said, we projected a .067 and .172 iso and got a .065 and .161 respectively. Pretty accurate.

WHAT WE MISSED:
Nothing.

Ichiro Suzuki:
Projected: .337/.385/.434
Actual: .304/.366/.371

In retrospect, this was a hugely optimistic projection. Essentially, the community forecasted Ichiro for minimal decline from 2007 down from a .351/.396/.431 line to a .337/.385/.434 one. Now, it's tough to judge Ichiro mid-season since he got off to his typical early season slump. One thing Ichiro does have going for him this season is an improved walk rate even with him seeing less pitcher per plate appearance.

Ichiro has been remarkably consistent drawing 49, 48, 49 and 49 walks the last four years. He's already at 38 on the year leading to a career best .062 isoD, far above the projected .048 figure. The downside has been in his power, with no extra base hits in a month's time, Ichiro is posting just a .067 isoP against the hoped for .097 number and the .080 from 2007.

However, one popular method to help translate a player's speed contribution into a batting line is to add the player's stolen bases to his slugging and subtract his caught stealings from his OBP. If we apply this to Ichiro, his batting line turns into .304/.361/.458. It's not a perfect translation since a double is more valuable than a single and a stolen base, but then again, a single/walk plus a caught stealing is a lot more valuable than a random out.

I have little doubt that Ichiro's batting average will continue to rise; his improved contact rate suggests he hasn't lost anything in the bat control department and we may even see the slugging go up a bit as well after his hamstring issues clear up and he becomes potentially more apt to stretch some of those singles into doubles. All in all, we were too optimistic on his power, but he's surprised us a bit with his discipline while overcoming yet another typical early season slow start.

WHAT WE MISSED: Projected a little too much power.

More after the jump.

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Brad Wilkerson:
Projected: .253/.340/.441
Actual: .232/.348/.304

Whoops. We thought Wilkerson might rebound a bit in the average and walks department while losing a good chunk of his power. That's not an unreasonable projection. Problem is, there was some, shall we say, mitigating factors surrounding Wilkerson's performance that made duplicating said performance unlikely. Wilkerson actually had a tremendous walk rate, providing a .116 isoD along with 4.4 pitches seen per PA, an unheard of number for a Mariner. Unfortunately, he had no concept of power, smacking just 12.2% line drives, zero home runs and a .072 isoP.

WHAT WE MISSED: Justifiable fear of urine sample cups.

Willie Bloomquist:
Projected: .255/.315/.307
Actual: .270/.377/.279

Willie's 90th percentile PECOTA projection has him hitting two home runs.
-Jeff

Hehehe. Behold the hilarity of Willie Bloomquist. He's like Reggie Willits on some sort of gritty steroid, which I imagine are shaped like Flinstone vitamins. We did get one thing right; we expected an on base percentage above his slugging; we just had no idea how incredulously big that margin would be.

.255/.315/.307 was our prediction, marking a .060 isoD and .052 isoP. Instead we have seen a remarkable .270/.377/.279 line. Willie has one extra base hit all year, a double. He's recorded 31 total bases from hitting and 28 total bases from walking, getting hit and steal attempts. How have the walks spiked? For one, Willie is swinging at fewer pitches this year, down over 5% from 2007. Secondly, when he does swing, he's doing a much better job at making contact, missing only 9.6% of the time, 50% of his 2007 rate. When you take more pitches and make more contact with the ones you do swing at, chances are that your walk rate is going to go up and your strikeout rate down.

If you apply the same stolen base translation that we looked at for Ichiro you also get a noticeable change in Willie's line since he has so few total bases otherwise. His slugging jumps almost 100 points to .378 while his OBP drops only to .362. A .270/.362/.378 would be one of our most productive hitters. That is so funny.

WHAT WE MISSED: A (SSS) step forward in bat control and plate discipline counterbalancing a disappearance in power.

Wladimir Balentien:
Projected: .263/.320/.459
Actual: .196/.265/.346

Looked pretty bad in his first extended Major League trial. Drew more walks than we anticipated, but also struck out way too often and hit too few line drives to sustain a projected .263 average. The power was off a bit as well. I don't think it really dampens anything about Balentien's luster, he had more to learn at Tacoma even when he was called up so it wasn't much of a surprise that he struggled. Hopefully he's working on learning those lessons.

WHAT WE MISSED: Earlier than expected call up leading to bigger contact problems.

Jeremy Reed:
Projected: N/A
Actual: .261/.317/.357

Reed had another decent year in Tacoma and finally earned himself a second shot at the big leagues and so far has pretty much looked exactly like he looked in 2005 though with perhaps some improved defense this time around. What's really changed over 2005 is that Reed is swinging more often now. He's not really seeing more strikes and his contact rate is about the same, so in theory he could start taking a few more pitches and get his walk rate back up to 2005 levels, which would go part of the way toward making him a suitable stopgap starting CF. The rest of the way would be some more doubles.

WHAT WE MISSED: How bad our other outfielders would be.

OVERALL:
Like 1B and DH from part 1, what we missed most of all here was the total collapse of a position, in this case RF. Wilkerson and Balentien both fell completely flat and the team was left without any suitable alternatives since they traded Adam Jones, cut Greg Norton, demoted Charlton Jimerson and instead tried out Mike Morse.

On one hand, we got most of our projections at least within the margin for error, which is impressive. On the other, when your team has a black hole at DH, 1B and COF, the three most offense heavy positions, it's no surprise when the team's overall offense turns out to suck. Badly.

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Awesome write up again.

This is my favorite line.

His slugging jumps almost 100 points to .378 while his OBP drops only to .362. A .270/.362/.378 would be one of our most productive hitters. That is so funny.

by LantermanC on Jul 17, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are BABIP and running speed linked?

I don’t ever remember reading anything about the two being linked but it seems as if many of the players you mentioned suffering from bad luck (Vidro, Clement, Sexson, and Ibanez) are not fast runners. On the other end of the scale, some players put up unusually high BABIP on a yearly basis, such as Ichiro. Using the basic formula for BABIP, it would make a significant enough difference for Vidro’s BABIP if he could outrun 10 more throws for hits a season. Slow runners after all are theoretically safe on less close plays then a faster runner.

by tdot mariner fan on Jul 17, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think it's somewhat linked

however for most players coupling BABIP and LD% is a lot more telling.

by BrianL on Jul 17, 2008 11:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What Graham said.

It’s somewhat dwarfed by the normal variance in BABIP-LD% anyways for a single season.

by Matthew on Jul 17, 2008 11:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LD% is very important in seasonal BABIP, just think there are exceptions to BABIP use

BABIP is a reliable metric for the most part but can be thrown off easily by certain types of players in my opinion. Besides fast players such as Ichiro or Gathright, I think 3 true outcomes players like Cust can mess up the formula plenty. Walks subtract from the number of ABs and large number of Hrs and Ks reduce both the numerator and denominator meaning you can come up with extreme ratios.

by tdot mariner fan on Jul 17, 2008 12:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry if I was not clear

Was making a point about there being certain players BABIP is not accurate with stemming from my original question about speed for slow/fast runners affecting BABIP.

by tdot mariner fan on Jul 17, 2008 12:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was it Brian Giles we were lobbying for in the off-season?

08: .301/.394/.433, 49 walks, .918 RZR, 48 OOZ plays.

Gee, that would have been nice to have.

by BrianL on Jul 17, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Milton Bradley...

Plus Randy Wolf, Bartolo Colon, Andy Sonnanstine/Edwin Jackson and Ray Durham

by Matthew on Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who was lobbying for him?

If anyone suspected he’d have defensive stats like this, I think they’re lying.
Most people thought he was cooked, that his power never survived new drug testing procedures, and that getting a guy at age 37 to add power and defense isn’t the best way to go.

I still find it odd that in 2004/2005, PMR thought Giles was an excellent RF, whereas RZR thought he was basically Raul Ibanez’s paraplegic older brother. Now, PMR thinks he’s slipped down into below-average (7.5 runs below ave. last year) whereas RZR thinks he’s RoboIchiro all of the sudden. Odd.

by marc w on Jul 17, 2008 2:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For his career, that's correct.

It’s pretty close, though. (OPSes are .812 and .789) And his career BABIP against lefties is higher than against righties. I might call it a wash.

by Teej on Jul 17, 2008 2:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good stuff again, Matthew.

I didn’t realize Ichiro was walking that much. My pessimistic mind keeps expecting him to fall off the planet, so it’s nice to hear he’s fine.

by Teej on Jul 17, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think all our inner pessimists expect Ichiro to fall off a cliff every year.

We just not used to seeing a player with his skillset and physical makeup.

by BrianL on Jul 17, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"... gritty steroid, which I imagine are shaped like Flinstone vitamins."

The idea that grit can be obtained by ingesting fruity, chewy pieces shaped like Barney Rubble just cracks me up. Photoshop anyone?

by ErictheRed on Jul 17, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's gotta be asked.

How much of Ichiro’s improved walk rate is “old player” skills which some are harping about?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 17, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Little

He just isn’t seeing as many strikes.

by Jeff on Jul 18, 2008 12:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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