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by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 10, 2008 11:08 PM PDT
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PrintMuch like Brandon Morrow, I think I'll take today off.
Biggest Contribution: RA Dickey, +33.6%
Biggest Suckfest: Brandon Morrow, -47.0%
Most Important AB: Lopez DP, -14.2%
Most Important Pitch: Suzuki homer, -48.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -4.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -48.8%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +3.5%
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Tough to recap a game that took place while you were at work.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 10, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I'll amend that
I can usually tune in from work. Tough to recap a game when the bulk of it took place while you were out at lunch.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 10, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear God I've developed a completely irrational mancrush on Dickey.
Please give him a new contract.
It's almost like he could conceivably be a decent #5 for nothing
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 10, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He has the Body Language of someone who's worth 5/70
Unlike Bedard, who has the body language of some one who has lady parts
Unless I'm mistaken, Dickey's still going to be under team control
so I give him something in the high six figures and smile when his eyes light up.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't really sure what his contract situation was.
The whole Rule V thing, followed by the trade for his rights confused the living daylights out of me.
When I think Rule V, I think of Luis Ugueto.
I just don’t imagine them contributing as much as Dickey has this season. Dickey was a Mat Olkin suggested move, wasn’t he?
Ok, I think I get it
There is just of a good chance of a rule V draftee making it big as a regular draftee. But they get to stay on the big league roster, or go back on their old team, right? The whole rule V thing is confusing.
JI/Robert '08!
I think I am at least.
Because the roman numeral for 5 is V, so I assumed they were the same.
JI/Robert '08!
Or at least that's the intent
the idea is to keep certain teams from hoarding talent. Sometimes a team will draft a worthless player and then play 24 deep until they can make up a fake injury accompanied by a subsequent lengthy rehab assignment.
Petagine was decent. >:(
Man, how sad would it be to know you never had a hit in your two year major league career?
Both these guys make WFB look like an all-star.
JI/Robert '08!
"If they had killed Gillian they would have gotten off the island."
I think this applies to 3/5 of our rotation.
I'd offer him the $810,000 he didn't get when the Rangers discovered that missing ligament.
Although I’d seriously consider just giving him an even 1 million (provided he doesn’t completely fall apart).
Is there any easy way to find out the results of every at bat a pitcher pitched?
I want to see what percent of the time Morrow has pitched either a strikeout, walk, or homerun, and how that compares with other batters.. It seems that whenever he pitches, he gets one of the three true outcomes while he pitches, and rarely do batters put it in play when the ball isn’t heading over the fence.
Because I'm bored...
Putz, 2006-39.9%
Putz, 2007-38.8%
And, because I’m really, really bored….
Nolan Ryan, 1977-43.8%
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nolan Ryan's pitching lines are ridiculous.
I knew this intuitively, but looking at them all at once…dear God.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
His 1973 was batshit.
383 K, 162 BB, 2,48 FIP, 326 IP, 26 CG.
I know it was a different game, but that’s completely unfathomable to me.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Even the 383 K seems unreachable in today's game
But god damn. At least knowing he played up until he was 45 gives me hope that Sean Green’s arm doesn’t fall off.
JI/Robert '08!
RJ is better than Nolan, relative to the rest of the league.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Or juiced ball era?
Or smaller park era?
Nolan Ryan isn’t anywhere close to being as good as Randy Johnson.
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
Yeah, I'd say Randy's one of the best five or 10 to ever do it.
I don’t put Nolan Ryan in that group.
If it weren't for longevity
Nolan Ryan wouldn’t be a HOFer. He was a very good pitcher for a very long time, but he never really was as good as people remember.
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
Randy Johnson is in a whole different building than Ryan.
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
wha?
Walter Johnson was deeply, deeply awesome. easily one of the best ever.
Why do you think he wasn’t all that great?
I think you missed the sarcasm.
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
by JI on Jul 11, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Despite popular sentiment
I like this meme when used in moderation
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
by JI on Jul 11, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't Ryan's durability part of his value?
It’s like what Dave Cameron was talking about with the Harden -> Cubs trade where Gallagher’s durability is nearly as valuable as a great, but injured pitcher, like Harden.
I’m not trying to argue Ryan is an all-time top 5 pitcher or even close to RJ, but the high number of better-than-average pitcher innings & long career has a lot of value. From age 25 – 45, his worst ERA + was 91 (I know it’s not a great stat, but I’m looking at BR) and he only had 4 other years below 100 (99, 98, 98, 94).
Which would mean he had many years where he was ~average, no?
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
by JI on Jul 11, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Ryan had a lot of average-ish years.
I think the high K numbers and lots of no hitters make people think he was a lot better than he really was. I think he’s a clear HOFer, but not the super-elite player like a Randy or Pedro.
That's a good example too.
Although, after taking a quick look, Glavine appears to be more consistently better than Ryan was.
That was ridiculous
Me, following RJ’s stats that year:
June: Oh, he’ll slow down.
July: Oh, he’ll slow down.
August: GOOD LORD
I was a bit bummed when he didn't make it
but I had two very good teams to distract me.
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
by JI on Jul 11, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
1973 was an obscene year for pitchers
as far as overall effectiveness he was much more Kerry Wood than Roger Clemens.
Sure. But I had Nolan Ryan's numbers in front of me and was flabbergasted.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And also, considering the amount of strikeouts and BBs
coupled with the IP and batters faced, imagine how many pitches he must have thrown.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just chat up Dave Neihaus
I wish game logs for back then had pitch counts, but here’s an example.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=ryanno01&year=1989&t=p
See what JI started by dropping the periods?
Just thought of this now
After reading Jeff’s game thread rant about how good pitchers like McGowan get injured but shitty pitchers like Livan Hernandez stay durable just now, I thought of another one. Jarrod Washburn, he hasn’t been on the DL once since being here, yet he’s been a pile of crap. He’s probably blocked the way for RRS/Morrow/Dickey for quite a while. Hopefully he will get traded soon.
JI/Robert '08!
I love you so much Dickey.
“Some guys call me RA [as in rabid],” he said. “You might not know this, but RA means sun god in Egypt, but I’m not a sun god. [Roy] Corcoran calls me ARA [as in aura].”
Yeah, he should drop the periods.
Unlike E.R.I.C B.E.D.A.R.D, who has a bunch of periods, RA Dickey is manly.
Or it could be the other way around
Like R.A. the Rugged Man, hip-hop artist and batshit crazy person
A subtle, yet very effective fancomment.
Almost rec worthy.
I listened to some interviews with RA Dickey discussing the knuckleball in spring training.
He’s a really, really smart sounding guy.
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