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Tiny by Jeff on in Game Recaps

Much like Brandon Morrow, I think I'll take today off.

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Biggest Contribution: RA Dickey, +33.6%
Biggest Suckfest: Brandon Morrow, -47.0%
Most Important AB: Lopez DP, -14.2%
Most Important Pitch: Suzuki homer, -48.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -4.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -48.8%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +3.5%
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5/70

It’s what we feel he’s worth.

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He has the Body Language of someone who's worth 5/70

Unlike Bedard, who has the body language of some one who has lady parts

by joof on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Unless I'm mistaken, Dickey's still going to be under team control

so I give him something in the high six figures and smile when his eyes light up.

by Jeff on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't really sure what his contract situation was.

The whole Rule V thing, followed by the trade for his rights confused the living daylights out of me.

by BrianL on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

When I think Rule V, I think of Luis Ugueto.

I just don’t imagine them contributing as much as Dickey has this season. Dickey was a Mat Olkin suggested move, wasn’t he?

by BrianL on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, I think I get it

There is just of a good chance of a rule V draftee making it big as a regular draftee. But they get to stay on the big league roster, or go back on their old team, right? The whole rule V thing is confusing.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Jul 10, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I am at least.

Because the roman numeral for 5 is V, so I assumed they were the same.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Jul 10, 2008 11:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok

Its hard to tell a joke apart through text.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a situation of

Well, he’s not one of your 40 best, but we think he’s one of our best 25.

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Or at least that's the intent

the idea is to keep certain teams from hoarding talent. Sometimes a team will draft a worthless player and then play 24 deep until they can make up a fake injury accompanied by a subsequent lengthy rehab assignment.

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Drafted, but returned or traded before start of season Colter Bean
Frank Brooks
Cecil Cooper 1970 by St Louis Cardinals, returned to Boston 1971
Javier López
Mike Myers
James Vermilyea
Fernando Vina
John Wetteland

whoops-a-doodle

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd offer him the $810,000 he didn't get when the Rangers discovered that missing ligament.

Although I’d seriously consider just giving him an even 1 million (provided he doesn’t completely fall apart).

by BrianL on Jul 10, 2008 11:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is there any easy way to find out the results of every at bat a pitcher pitched?

I want to see what percent of the time Morrow has pitched either a strikeout, walk, or homerun, and how that compares with other batters.. It seems that whenever he pitches, he gets one of the three true outcomes while he pitches, and rarely do batters put it in play when the ball isn’t heading over the fence.

by joof on Jul 10, 2008 11:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Because I'm bored...

Putz, 2006-39.9%
Putz, 2007-38.8%

And, because I’m really, really bored….

Nolan Ryan, 1977-43.8%

by acblue on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nolan Ryan's pitching lines are ridiculous.

I knew this intuitively, but looking at them all at once…dear God.

by acblue on Jul 10, 2008 11:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

His 1973 was batshit.

383 K, 162 BB, 2,48 FIP, 326 IP, 26 CG.

I know it was a different game, but that’s completely unfathomable to me.

by acblue on Jul 10, 2008 11:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Even the 383 K seems unreachable in today's game

But god damn. At least knowing he played up until he was 45 gives me hope that Sean Green’s arm doesn’t fall off.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Jul 10, 2008 11:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2001

372 K, 249 IP

more impressive

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Randy Johnson = Today's Nolan Ryan?

Maybe without all the no hitters?

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Jul 10, 2008 11:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Or juiced ball era?

Or smaller park era?

Nolan Ryan isn’t anywhere close to being as good as Randy Johnson.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If it weren't for longevity

Nolan Ryan wouldn’t be a HOFer. He was a very good pitcher for a very long time, but he never really was as good as people remember.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 12:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And definitely worth something.

I’m cool with him being in the HOF, but yeah, he’s no Randy.

by Teej on Jul 11, 2008 12:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Randy Johnson is in a whole different building than Ryan.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wha?

Walter Johnson was deeply, deeply awesome. easily one of the best ever.

Why do you think he wasn’t all that great?

by marc w on Jul 11, 2008 11:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you missed the sarcasm.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Despite popular sentiment

I like this meme when used in moderation

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 3:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't Ryan's durability part of his value?

It’s like what Dave Cameron was talking about with the Harden -> Cubs trade where Gallagher’s durability is nearly as valuable as a great, but injured pitcher, like Harden.

I’m not trying to argue Ryan is an all-time top 5 pitcher or even close to RJ, but the high number of better-than-average pitcher innings & long career has a lot of value. From age 25 – 45, his worst ERA + was 91 (I know it’s not a great stat, but I’m looking at BR) and he only had 4 other years below 100 (99, 98, 98, 94).

by Jed MC on Jul 11, 2008 8:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Which would mean he had many years where he was ~average, no?

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, Ryan had a lot of average-ish years.

I think the high K numbers and lots of no hitters make people think he was a lot better than he really was. I think he’s a clear HOFer, but not the super-elite player like a Randy or Pedro.

by Jed MC on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 1:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a good example too.

Although, after taking a quick look, Glavine appears to be more consistently better than Ryan was.

by Jed MC on Jul 11, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That was ridiculous

Me, following RJ’s stats that year:

June: Oh, he’ll slow down.
July: Oh, he’ll slow down.
August: GOOD LORD

by Gomez on Jul 11, 2008 8:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was a bit bummed when he didn't make it

but I had two very good teams to distract me.

See what JI started by dropping the periods?

by JI on Jul 11, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1973 was an obscene year for pitchers

as far as overall effectiveness he was much more Kerry Wood than Roger Clemens.

by JI on Jul 10, 2008 11:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And also, considering the amount of strikeouts and BBs

coupled with the IP and batters faced, imagine how many pitches he must have thrown.

by acblue on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just chat up Dave Neihaus

I wish game logs for back then had pitch counts, but here’s an example.