Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Canada Blue Jays
Seattle: 22-41
Blue Jays: 33-32
GAMES
Game 1: Jarrod Washburn* vs Jesse Litsch
Game 2: Carlos Silva vs Dustin McGowan
Game 3: Felix Hernandez vs Shaun Marcum
Jesse Litsch has taken a big step forward as a pitch-to-contact guy this season, which although is used as a curse around these parts is a pretty smart thing to do when you have a defense as good as Toronto's (best in the majors). He's missing the zone a lot less often than in 2007, but most of those pitches are ending up in play rather than as strikes. It just goes to show what happens when you pair good defense with low walk totals.
Carlos Silva goes to show you when you pair horrid defense (worst in the majors) with low walk totals. See the difference? Dustin McGowan's core pitch results haven't strayed much at all from the previous year, but his overall results have wildly. His homeruns are way down but so are his groundballs; his hits are way up, but so is his line drive rate.
Marcum has taken a small step forward so far in 2008 with a slight decrease in balls and upticks in both called and swinging strikes helping to back his improved strikeout to walk ratio. What stands out for him though is the benefit that comes from a nifty .213 BABIP which is due for regression no matter how good the Blue Jays defense is.
Likely Starters:
C Rod Barajas
1 Lyle Overbay*
2 Marco Scutaro
3 Scott Rolen
S David Eckstein
L Brad Wilkerson*
C Vernon Wells
R Alexis Rios
D Matt Stairs*
Brad Wilkerson is going to destroy us isn't he? It's only fitting that we somehow find ways to get owned by him and Marco Scutaro.
You might be tempted to consider this a poor lineup given their runs scored, just 4.17 a game, but like us, a big chunk of the run scoring problem lies with (not) hitting when they have runners in scoring position rather than across the board lineup atrophy. That's probably going to even out a bit over the season. And hey, here come the slump busters into town!
CONTEXT
22 and 41. That's really bad. It's so bad that they finally took drastic action and fired the hitting coach. If you haven't already, go read Geoff Baker's take on the matter, he does a great job of summing it all up. It doesn't mean anything. Our hitters are still going to suck and at this point in the season, there's not much else to do but ride it out.
You could call Clement back up, but to what end really? He's not going to start over Johjima everyday and that's what needs to happen. He's not going to get PT at first because he's still not even playing there in Tacoma. He could grab some DH at bats, but I'd rather see Ibanez there and Reed in LF so that we can figure out if Reed can be a servicable 4th OF on a playoff contending team.
The only player move I would like to see is the Mariners snag Snelling, demote Wlad back to Tacoma and put Doyle in right field for awhile. This way we push back Wlad's service time enough to gain another year of team control and we get to see Doyle again which would single handedly get me to buy tickets for the first time this season.
THIS SERIES BROUGHT TO YOU BY:
Tankhouse Ale
Mill St. Brewing. Toronto, ON
Ironically this is what an American pale ale should be like. Dark orange/amber coloured it comes with a caramel hoppy aroma and a sweet and hoppy taste and a bitter aftertaste. It actually tastes like a beer as opposed to the macro American pale lagers produced domestically.
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It's too bad we're not facing Roy Halladay
that would be the quickest and least painful 1-0 loss ever.
At least we have fans that show up at all, unlike empty SAFECO. Whatever.
These Blue Jays are no birds, they are animals! They are the most impressive team we have played all season so far. I look for them to be playoff contenders this year. Scot Rolen absolutely owned the Angels last series with them.
Uhhuh.
I still expect Boston to win the East and Tampa Bay to pick up the wild card. The Jays are the third-best team in the AL East.
He's a HH denizen.
Expect small-sample-size myopia.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
This is my favourite Brettbait:
90s Barry Bonds > 90s Ken Griffey Jr.
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And third-best in the AL East this year seems to mean tied-for-last.
It’s like there’s a floor at .500 and no team can drop below it.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I had no idea birds were not animals
Thank you for enlightening me
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the whole Animalia chordata bit is just there to trick you.
Tricky birds.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Which is why we're not called the Tampa Bay Mariners of Seattle
by seattlebruin on Jun 9, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope
All that Tampa Bay Mariners stuff you bought was probably counterfeit, btw.
My world has been turned upside down.
Seattle is not in Florida? No wonder I can’t keep game times straight…I keep thinking Eastern Standard Time.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 9, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
So, the Jays have an awesome rotation, but we are missing their top 2 guys.
Halladay pitched yesterday (though he has thrown 2.1 relief innings already this season, so we could see him if we go deep into their bullp – who am I kidding?)
And Marcum’s BABIP has already regressed a fair amount. Last time I checked it was .186.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Instead of Releasing Wasburn today...or Vidro...or Batista
We released Petland. Yay for moves that will do nothing. I need something to drink.
Scutaro's almost the best hitting shortstop in the AL this season. It's crazy.
There’s a good chance we’ll see John McDonald at least once, too, so that’s a game worth watching. His glovework just isn’t credible.
Wells has been hitting well since he come off the DL, but Rios hasn’t been hitting at all.
Wilkerson’s apparently a good defender. MGL’s numbers say so.
And the Jays hitters see a ton of pitches, so Washburn and Silva are going to have bring some extra suck.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I'm writing that Wilkerson thing off as a small sample
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 9, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Either nobody gets this or they're too awed by the awesomeness
I hope it’s the latter.
I'm pretty sure this was my best comment ever
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the latter
just wishing I’d thought of it.
If you can't tell
I am incapable of understanding this joke.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone who complains about my latin
gets a 100 lb halberd to the neck.
I was about to, but... uh
I choose patimus, thanks.
shut up shut up shut up
I haven’t had to conjugate in 4 years.
Well someone correct it so we can be more right
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I need marc or maybe chinn to help out.
Is it just left at pati?
And censite or maybe censetis to make it active instead of passive?
Well,
look, I know nothing on this. I think the imperative form may be right here; you’re commanding multiple people, so if the stem is something like censeo, then censite is correct.
But isn’t sentio a better verb? I don’t know.
Pati…no, I think it needs a suffix to again make it imperative (future?). Not sure which, but patimus strikes me as off. I’m not being helpful.
I considered sentio
I thought censere was better, but it’s pretty ambiguous. I’d need to go back and consult literature to see if I could find a case (shouldn’t be too hard) of vote being used in imperative form.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to do imperative second person future tense of patior and well, gave up and just picked something.
Isn't an imperative always future?
If so, the plural imperative of patior is patimini, according to the internet
by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2008 3:29 AM PDT up reply actions
There seem to be two
one for a current command, and one for a command in the future.
But I yield to you guys.
And seriously Graham, if you’re still in Canterbrigge, can’t you just ask a classicist? Aren’t they basically like rats over there?
goddamit, third conjugation io verb.
fuck me.
And he's been hitting well for two days.
Given that it was a wrist injury, the return of power is a good sign of full recovery.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I think the point of that specific poster has passed you by
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We feel that Brett-Baiting is a highly worthwhile activity
And will endeavour to support and assist any further attempts to engage in such an act.
by Graham MacAree on Jun 9, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only that, they can spell and punctuate.
In two different languages, even.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 9, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't use it now, why ruin something that works?
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Think of me as the person that feeds questions to the candidate.
You just lost the opportunity to promote your platform.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 9, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
o rlly
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll give you quarter to this at VEB
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Go read llbros' body of work at VEB
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot "do".
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
and "a"
I
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Recs are one of the few things in my life that motivate me
by Robert on Jun 9, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's one for you.
Now finish overthrowing the evil LL overlords!
"facist" oppressors?
A REAL spelling fascist would have you for lunch,
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff and Matthew are the only ones with any real power
Graham is just there for ceremonial purposes
I doubt that Graham-baiting is as acceptable as Brett-baiting
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It's easy
show up with a new screen name, insist upon something retarded, and PRESTO!
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't even need a new screen name
just Coach Owens’ password
The death star had a huge fucking design flaw.
The people deserve better.
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
JI/Robert/Brett?
You might have to change your position on Brett-baiting, though.
May I also suggest a lime-green background?
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Then it would no longer be a Ron Paul parody.
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah Ron Paul...you crazy bastard.
He’s just like my racist uncle who comes to Thanksgiving dinners. Always spouting off his conspiracy theories and calling me a “chink” and spitting on my shoes.
Replace "uncle" with "father-in-law" and
“chink” with “kike” and it sounds like Thanksgiving at my in-laws.
by Jed MC on Jun 9, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can she hit a curveball?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Oh, I'm pretty sure you can still do enough parodying
Besides, why just pick ONE candidate to parody? It’s so limiting.
PS: ZOMG POLITICS
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Thus the suggestion for lime green
JI/Robert 08: Spellcheck you can believe in.
by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
(I thought the joke was that you thought you were headlining the ticket
and I thought I was, but we never actually acknowledged it, we just displayed it subtlety through our comments).
JI/Robert '08 bringing the Subject Line Spell Check to the people.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure you've posted this before
but is it spelled facist to note your guys’ notable frequency of typos?
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
And it's a shame Felix isn't matched up with McGowan. They're the two hardest throwing starters in baseball
according to Fangraphs.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Wow, Batista even sucks in games where he doesn't appear.
Wilkerson does take a lot of pitches, so you could K him looking.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Except for Wells the Jays are remarkably passive hitters.
I we don’t throw strikes we could walk like 16 guys.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
"[Litsch] goes to show what happens when you pair good defense with low walk totals."
Sounds like Ryan Franklin, 2003.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Since leaving the Mariners
Ryan Franklin has a 131 ERA+
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Mariner who can say the same over that timespan
JJ Putz
George Sherill
Rafael Soriano
Jon Huber
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
"It actually tastes like a beer"
Just curious, which are the ‘american pale ales’ that taste like something else? I’ve always thought that US brewers do a damn good job at this task – almost too well, where it starts to stifle innovation/diversification when you know you can churn out more Mirror Pond instead (not picking on Deschutes; they actually DO diversify).
Manny’s, Stone, Mirror Pond… US brewers do this well. You weren’t talking about that god awful Blue Boar crap, were you?
Anyway, it looks like Litsch has made more use of his slider this year, which makes sense: it was his best pitch last year. Can you isolate the results on his slider for 2008? Looks like hitters struggled with it in 2007, but I’m guessing it’s even better this year (judging by his K:BB ratio and hits allowed).
What do you make of Marcum’s increased GB%? Sample size fluke? Or something more, given that he apparently has a very different pitch mix when he’s starting as opposed to relieving?
Litsch and Marcum both throw 5 different pitches at least 10% of the time - I can't imagine that would work in relief.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Exactly
But it’s hard to tell around here, given that any dive bar will have Mirror Pond, and plenty will also have Manny’s plus something else.
So what’s a ‘macro’ pale ale? Henry’s Blue Boar? Sierra Nevada?
It seems the macro/micro would be the appropriate filter, unless the claim is that this one typifies the US style (very hoppy, Cascade/Chinook hops).
as for Marcum, that’s my point exactly – he was a FB/curve guy out of the pen, and now throws 5 pitches in true Ryan Franklin style (nice comp). Predictably, his velo’s down and his peripherals look a bit different than they did when he split time in the pen. So my question is, do we know that he’s a ‘true’ fly baller and his GB rate will decrease, or is his GB rate in 2008 closer to what it will be from here on out than his career mark?
He said macro, not micro
So I believe he’s referencing the big three of Budweiser, Coors and Miller. You know, the ones that add “lime” and believe they have a superior product?
But I could be wrong.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 9, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You are not wrong, I was wrong.
I was referencing those, but those are lagers, not ales. Slipped my mind.
I wasn't going to call you on it.
Superior baseball knowledge beats beer knowledge. But only by a little bit.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 9, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't hesistate next time.
I screw up a lot. I like to be told when I do.
Oh, okay -
Those things. Yeah, that’s different.
I was in Missouri last week so I survived on Boulevard Brewery products
Their Pale Ale was good, but not as hoppy as I like. Their Dry Stout was great. The rest was meh. I need to try this Tankhouse.
Oh, and as much as I am no Cardinal fan that team plays some damn fine defense.
I have no idea how
their only plus defenders play 1B and RF.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
CF?
No? I’ve never seen him play CF, but his numbers are great.
I don't think it'll hold up.
Ankiel seems like a poor man’s Jim Edmonds’. He’s ok, but he is best suited for a corner.
by JI on Jun 9, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I am approximately 100% sure Rios will not play left field
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
griffey just hit 600
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

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