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6/6: Open Game Thread

Seattle Mariners at Boston Red Sox, Jun 6, 2008 4:05 PM PDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Felix Hernandez 3-5 12 12 1 0 0 0 82.0 79 33 30 7 33 69 3.29 1.37


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Bartolo Colon 3-0 3 3 0 0 0 0 18.0 18 7 7 1 5 13 3.50 1.28

Boston's .357 overall OBP is eight points higher than Seattle's team leader. They've won 13 consecutive games at home against teams with a weighted winning percentage of .510, and this weekend they get three against arguably the worst team in baseball, a team that will be starting a 22 year old disappointment and a pair of throwaway stiffs. Even without David Ortiz and Jacoby Ellsbury (tonight), the carnage potential here is through the roof. On the one hand, winning in Boston is a great way to make everyone feel better, but on the other, continued losing in this context is a great way to make sure several names don't survive the month, and with Boston and Toronto coming up next, things don't look good. For better or worse, John McLaren should probably consider himself lucky if he makes it to the Washington/Florida homestand.

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Ahhhh....

Sunshine and lollipops. I needed those this week.

Please have a good game Felix, I need to have a good night.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHA!

By 22 seconds I was ready to turn it off, but by 29 I was laughing, and by 31 it was off. GREAT stuff.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 6, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick question for someone more knowledgable than me:

Why do Josh Kalk’s pitch f/x cards always have more movement for fastballs than sliders? It seems as though the fastballs get a ton of vertical and horizontal movement, more than I would expect.

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 6, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

GO Mari-

I mean go Boston! I really don’t want to see the Mariner loose but right now its for the better. It could lead to cleaning house, cleaning house (FO style), and of course. Strasburg.

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I mean go Boston!

Consider this your dishonable discharge. Turn in your membership card and badge, and let me remove your LL tattoo, you aren’t fit to wear this uniform!

/tears off custom made LL shirt patch

by JI on Jun 6, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just wants to see the Mariners loose.

Although I think he’s spelling “Moose” incorrectly.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's aboot respect.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God,

does that mean it’s aboot never giving up?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 6, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's ride the caboose.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners won't be loose

That’d not be family friendly… Especially on TV.

by joof on Jun 6, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It what I get for telling bad jokes :(

Here my stuff. Nibbler lasered the Tattoo though

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am officially making the first Dickey v Colon

reference of the day, if he does in fact pitch in relief.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jun 6, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

It better be good

this meme is dying a long painful death

by JI on Jun 6, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boston/Tampa Suspensions handed out

Crisp 7 games
Lester 5 games
Casey 3 games

Crisp and Lester to start suspensions today unless appealed. Casey on the 14th

Tampa-
Shields 6 games
Gomes 5 games
Jackson 5 games
Crawford 4 games
Iwamura 3 games

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

just saw that

seems a bit steep. I imagine they’ll all be challenged and get two days knocked off. And that’s not even bad for the pitchers, who’ll only be missing a start each.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jun 6, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

what did Sexson end up with for his charge to the mound?

5 games? 7 for punches thrown doesn’t seem steep for Crisp.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

he threw his helmet

5-game suspension for a “crime of passion” is pretty substantial (premeditated cheating tends to be longer)

by planB on Jun 6, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sexson threw a helmet though. Figure the whole

“weapon” aspect of it was what got him 5 games in the first place.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jun 6, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you watch the fight?

Gomes, Crawford, and Iwamura’s conduct absolutely warrants those suspensions.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what Lester, Jackson, or Casey did to get suspended.

I would have thought Gomes would get more than 6 games, though. He really went to town.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitcher suspensions are always dumb

so he misses a start, meh.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 6, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong

Series we have won:

Boston, Tampa, Anaheim, (San Diego too, but they don’t count).

by JI on Jun 6, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Eh

The Patriots can’t win if they don’t cheat.

by JI on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

18-1

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Felix

He should drill Coco with his first pitch of the game, just to piss him off. :)

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know

but I do know I’m kind of sad Beckham got drafted, apparently he was a baseball commit at my alma mater.

I doubt he goes to school now :/

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 6, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

>:|

Chad Kreuter was a lousy choice for head coach. We’re the fucking most dominant college baseball program of all time, we demand better!

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 6, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pound Colon

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Felix >>> Red Sox

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 6, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is this not on FSN?

I’m relegated to mlb.tv and NESN

by thewyrm on Jun 6, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

No, I mean why is it not on FSN at all?

I get FSN NW at my house, but no M’s game.

by thewyrm on Jun 6, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's on for me...

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe he was talking about on TV

not the feed on MLB.TV

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not home yet, so dunno

I’ll let you know when I do get home.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

untrue

A combination of offense, pitching, and defense, plus other little things like baserunning and team health which in turn yield scoring many more runs than than the team allows wins championships.

by JI on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rays draftee Jeremy Beckham would like a funk blast or two.

blank”>http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/9187/iChat_Image_2320778524.jpeg

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 6, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, they aren' the Uptons

But 1st overall and 17th round isn’t bad cash to play pro ball with your brother.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 6, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than Joey Gomes.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, blackout applies on roadtrips too..

bot am i glad i did not pay for mlb.tv. Guess i’ll play the Marlins game to see Rich Waltz

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Felix: Estoy muy guapo.

by wobbly wobbly on Jun 6, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Sure hope Felix throws a fastball here

and here
and here
and here
and here
and here
and here
and here
and here
and here
...

by Matthew on Jun 6, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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by JI on Jun 6, 2008 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I need to sell his cards of mine on Ebay

Right now they aren’t worth much, put him in the hall and make me money.

Purely selfish reasons, nothing to do with his actual career.

by marinator on Jun 6, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

"This is where you wanna hold 'em, keep that two run lead in check here"

Wisdom from Dan Wilson

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Dan.

Couldn’t have figured that out by myself.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure it is, Jarrod.

I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.

by ralphie81 on Jun 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gameday says fastball

fastball and slider.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

it listed the second as a splitter.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 6, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIDDOWN CRISP!

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

SIT DOWN YOU WEIRD NAMED FUCKER

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

FeliKs!

I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.

by ralphie81 on Jun 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Misinformed announcer

evidently didn’t read Matthew’s post today about first pitch swinging.

“Lopez isn’t a guy that waits around long only drawn 6 walks and struck out 16 times does alot of first pitch swinging.”... hahahaha

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

mainstream sports analysis

where you’re never held accountable.

by Matthew on Jun 6, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you wish these guys had email on during the game

send that to them and see if they correct themselves.??? ahahahaha…..

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay M's!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 6, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

God I hate you, Vidro

I literally have hatred for you.

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Why

Don’t you know that he is a veteran?
...

How many more AB’s until this guys option picks up? I am going to cry…

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like 250 ft down the god damn left field line

You’d expect an obese douchebag like Vidro would have something resembling power, but no. He swings like a damn 5 year old.

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what is going through McClaren's head every day when he pencils in Vidro's name into the lineup?

I REFUSE to believe he can honestly believe that is the best way for us ti win. No one can be that stupid.

by thewyrm on Jun 6, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

What's going thru McLaren's head?

simple…...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 6, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Refuse to believe it all you want

but those are the facts.

Inside Mac’s head…

1.) Ibanez is a excellent hard working center fielder
2.) Cairo is the best 1st Bagger in the league
3.) Vidro is a good DH

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

funny thing happened to Raul on MVP 2005

I had him jump at a homer that was nowhere near catchable and he tore his pcl.

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

He tore his Pacific Coast League?

OUCH!

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

err mcl

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

A grade III rupture of his Tacoma.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pulled my Tacoma once.

Hurt like hell.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are you playing him in the OF?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who's at first?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's on second.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 6, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richmond Lockwood Sexson

who has not yet regressed.

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ranked 80+ overall on 2k8

I still released him after his bounce back .280/35/something season :)

by AtomicGarden on Jun 6, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltre has 100 power and contact against leftys and is shit vs. rightys

but i can’t hit for power with him.

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edit him

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

My main complaint about MPP so far...

...is how much conventional wisdom voodoo plays a role. Feeling good adds several miles per hour to a pitcher’s fastball, etc. Also there’s no way to look at the handedness of the opposing lineup for pitching change reference. Other than that it’s awesome, though.

by planB on Jun 6, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade him while he's hot.

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to make room for a couple of fake players

by the name of Ryan Riley and Sheldon Regnier

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go M's

First post from a Rays fan on here but i must say LL is entertaining.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 6, 2008 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Richie with five hits in the last three and a half games?

I haven’t been able to watch the last few games… have any them actually been solid hits?

I assume this will buy him more time….

by AtomicGarden on Jun 6, 2008 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

You know I'm still baffled every time I see Richie, Vidro, etc. bat

I don’t understand. Who are they trying to kid? I’m just frustrated that this team thinks they’re fooling someone by playing these old washed up bastards; they think fans actually believe they’re in it….random rant I know, but holy crap it’s annoying watching these guys bat.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuni was lucky there

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice swing, Betancourt.

That pitch almost hit your wrists.

Fuck you, you don’t deserve that goddamn hit.

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Richie got a hit.

Someone end the world now.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro!!!

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I like how the guy two seats back of the dude who got the foul ball

had his arms up in the air like he caught it. That’s a pretty douchey moment., no?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

SAFE

he beat it

I had some flash backs of the Angels game there

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

hahahah...

Dave Sims: “He did it!”

I thought Yuni was fucked, again.

by AtomicGarden on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

First thing I said when I saw him being waved around

“That slow fucker is going to get his ass thrown out again.”

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

By "that slow fucker" do you mean Yuni?

‘Cause he’s like the fastest runner on the team.

by planB on Jun 6, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dead serious.

Who’s faster? Ichiro higher acceleration but I’m not sure about top speed. Bloomquist?

by planB on Jun 6, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm not sure how much "top speed" really matters in baseball

Consider how long a base runner or an outfielder has to run to get to a ball. It’s far more important that the player gets good reads/jumps and has excellent acceleration than has a high maximum velocity.

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I meant Yuni.

And I don’t think he’s actually slow. I wouldn’t say he’s the fastest runner, certainly.

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or is Jose Lopez's swing really inconsistant

Sometimes

He Drops his hands, sometimes he doesn’t

Sometimes

He uses his hips, sometimes he doesn’t.
Anyone else notice?

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Can you blame him?

He was just trying not to be the umpire that costs the Red Sox the playoffs…

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck Mariners

Back to the heroin with Clete Jones

by Sylar on Jun 6, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA!

DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA! DFA!

by JLC on Jun 6, 2008 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey

Their fielding kinda looks like ours.

by ThundaPC on Jun 6, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

How is that not an error?

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope the Rays are thankful.

We’re giving up valuable games in the Strasburg standings to help them out.

by BrianL on Jun 6, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Rays is a fickle lover

She will love us today and forget us tomorrow

by thewyrm on Jun 6, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else have that feeling

that we’re going to give up a 7-spot if they pull Felix?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 6, 2008 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

DFA Reed

Trying to taike Beltre’s face off you fucker

by marinator on Jun 6, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if I was concussed today

I was playing with my Saint Bernard and his head hit me right in the chin and knocked me flat on my ass.

Maybe I should lie down

by marinator on Jun 6, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct.

I’ll take “Players with back spasms” for $600, Alex.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 6, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was Johjima

and…I was just gonna say, Beltre’s bad luck is coming back lol

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 6, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

But when you’re down 6-7 runs after 1-2 innings, the game kinda loses its magic.

by AtomicGarden on Jun 6, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awww Felix is only going 5 today

If he had a complete game SO his ERA would be under 3

by marinator on Jun 6, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm still mad that Richie has two "hits" tonight. >:(

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

It's sad that that's his best hit of the season.

It’s also sad that it was a terrible wussy throw and he would’ve done more damage by just hitting him with the helmet :o

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we drafted a guy named Raben.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 6, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

meatball

Even Sexson hits that out.

by Crystal for DH on Jun 6, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

THATS OUR DH!!!1111

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 6, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Great.

Vidro and Sexson have job security for another month.

by BrianL on Jun 6, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

#3 hitter comes through

Mac is a genius.

See…yelling works!

by Smegmalicious on Jun 6, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Raben's hitting 3rd, not Vidro

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 6, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When?

Did Sean Green become so fucking awesome? I’ve missed a lot of games. And this season that has been a good thing.

by bochte on Jun 6, 2008 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

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