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Amateur Draft Open Thread, Part 3

Carrying this over from the last thread...

First Round: Joshua Fields, RHRP, U Georgia

Fields is a reliever who's walked 42 batters in 70 innings these last two years. He throws hard, with a fastball in the mid-90s and a sharp curve, and he's proven difficult for righties to hit, but he has trouble against lefties and did I mention that he's a reliever? Because if there's one thing this team needs more of, it's right-handed relief pitchers with hard fastballs and iffy control. Also, at an alleged 6', he's one inch taller than Tim Lincecum, who I guess was too little for our likings.

Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb. Taking relievers in the first round is dumb, especially when building an effective bullpen on the cheap is the only thing your GM can do even remotely well. This is the worst season ever.

Second Round: Dennis Raben, LHB COF, U Miami

Big slow dude with power and patience, his scouting report makes him sound an awful lot like Brad Wilkerson (before the aging and injuries). Won't be good in the field; will have to make it with his bat, which has both a bunch of holes and .500 SLG potential.

Third Round: Benjamin Pribanic, RHP, Nebraska

Fourth Round: Steven Hensley, RHP, Elon

Fifth Round: Brett Lorin, RHP, Cal State Long Beach

Jarrett Burgess, RHB COF, high school

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I will never be able to leave the Mariners

But how many years of this shit would make it legit?

In the name of the Bedard, the Felix, and the Ichiro, amen.

by Robert Lintott on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Texas is in this to win it, too.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're getting a ton of production

from guys they got in the minor league FA draft. They’re maximizing their (meager) resources.

Looks to me like they don’t have the fire to stay in this fight…. pansies.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will we see another pick before I have to leave around 3?

Hmmm…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Shouldn't we have picked Dykstra?

I thought he had power and good plate approach…I’m glad it took us 2 drafts to get 1 reliever.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Brad Wilkerson just got walked intentionally.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Giradi, I suppose.

Farnsworth got to pitch to Rod Barajas instead.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vidro must have been on deck

the only OTHER player who’s worse…

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHAA...

HILARIOUS!!

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really glad we used our first round pick to cover for a mistake we made ourselves

I’m also really glad we value relief pitching so much that we trade it for Horacio Ramirez.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

But we can use Fields as a chip down the road

I hear Ramirez is ‘fixed’ now. Something KC taught him on the landing of his right foot.

I bet the Dodgers would consider flipping Chan Ho Park for Fields too, if we sweetened the pot a bit.

Flexibility

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

fields giving radio interview

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

he's excited to do what the club asks him to do, 'help, anyway I can'

he’s confused…didn’t he see ‘The Tirade’ yesterday?

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait though, if Atlanta picked him last year

he should be decent, right?

its ATL, they know pitching, correct?

fuck were fucked arent we

by PShwa on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

We need a strict "Atheist Only" draft policy.

Like Toronto’s “white only” policy, but more discretionary.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone listening to the Fields interview?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Among others...

“I prayed about it… a lot…” (on not signing with Braves)
“The Lord blessed me with opportunities…”

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Greatest story ever:

Well, I saw that Gordon had to wear a black shirt. So I asked the media guy here if I could wear my blue shirt and he said yes.

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You don't just pull that out of a hat...THAT'S reasearch!

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've played baseball your enitre life, what's it like being here on draft day?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could be our DH when he isn't pitching

At this point, it would involve trading Clement + Triunfels.

by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY!! Let it go..NO ONE gets them all right...

or ANY of them if your M’s personel.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He sure throws interesting.

I like it. It’s pretty amusing. That was one loopy ass curveball, too.

by the way, I typed “curbeball” and the spell check suggestion was “knuckleball”

WHAT.

by PShwa on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Scouting report

Physical Description: He has a lean, wiry and thin frame with whipping arm action—kind of like a more physical Tim Lincecum.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

according to the Yakima-Herald

ELLENSBURG—Central Washington senior Jamie Nilsen broke a school record with his 22nd career home run in the first game of a baseball doubleheader sweep of Montana State Billings on Sunday.

by InSpokane on Jun 5, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, he was in town, I could've watched it....

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what he did

in the second game of the doublehader

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Jun 5, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

So after the first round our organizational needs are as follow

Catching
Corner infield (offense)
Corner infield (glove)
Middle infield (offense)
Middle infield (glove)
Corner outfield (offense)
Corner outfield (glove)
Center field (offense)
Center field (glove)
Positionless bat (offense)
Starting pitching, righty (power)
Starting pitching, righty (control)
Starting pitching, lefty (power)
Starting pitching, lefty (control)
Relief pitching, righty (control)
Relief pitching, lefty (power)
Relief pitching, lefty (control)
Good players

by Robert on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

That's the same as it was this morning.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gold star

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having watched more video

Fields comes almost completely over the top, which should help his curveball be more of a weapon against both lefties and righties. So that’s something.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, whatever...

Did his dad play in the NFL?

Didn’t think so.

by lyleleander on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ken Griffey Jr....Keep watching....

cos my 6.7 HR/FB ratio means it could be awhile… *ding *ding *ding

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

*6.7 %*

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Surprised to see"

So many relievers go in the first round.

Ha.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's see:

Work: Pissing me off.
Odd vibration in my car: Pissing me off.
Gas prices: Pissing me off.
M’s draft: Pissing me off.

At least there’s some consistency. This Fields guy better be one kick-ass reliever.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Do tell.....

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on M's

Younger more talented Butts, Younger more talented Butts…come on

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Smart teams get them

Pay no attention to them

by Robert on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

BBQ sauce on a sandwich?

This had better be some kind of awesome pulled pork sandwich or a weird UK thing

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wr9iong

Barbecue.

I was once in a spelling bee as a kid where that word eliminated the entire field. Every single competitor insisted on putting a Q in it.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

They actually said that?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Now this kid here, he's a real basbeball player"

That kind of thing?

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I hate ESPN now.

It used to be so cool back in the day.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Problem was

Once The Big Show got into a groove, then ESPN kept trying to replicate what was really just good chemistry and Olbermann’s charisma, so then every Sportscenter anchor from there tried to become a one liner machine.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Olbermann was good.

Then he did politics, which sucks. Now he does Sunday Night Football on the side and the suckiness has stayed with him.

Sad turn of events.

by Wilder. on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Saunders?

Hardly a badass name.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maximo Mendez.

Now you’re talking.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three words.

Pebbly Jack Glasscock

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johan Assman

Funny thing is, my girlfriend’s grandma’s maidan name is Assman. And her last name is currently Steinke. Talk about getting hit with the bad name stick.

by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think this might be better than his actual career.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would write RODNEY GUILLORY over and over again in caps letters

but I’m the one going around loudly proclaiming that OJ Mayo is the best player in this years draft and that I will scream and jump for joy if the Sonics take him and don’t move to OKC

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rodney Guillory remarks

really wouldn’t have an affect on me. I’m upset that they let the guy anywhere near the program. Personally I hope our entire compliance office and Garett get the boot.

At least OJ finished on the honor roll, unlike Love. His academics won’t hurt us like Love’s will hurt ucla.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Rodney Guillory will

and when you get right down to it, UCLA’s hoops program has enough built up credit (for the time being) to easily take the impact of a Kevin Love dropping classes mid year. BTW, this is another unfair aspect to NCAA policies in that it’s much harder for a potential hoops player to finish his last year at UCLA and avoid negatively impacting the APR than it is at ‘sc because of the quarter v. semester system.

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not entirely convinced that Guillory will hurt us

but I do hope it makes the NCAA change their system, A LOT.

Also ucla should switch to a real system. Quarters are for community colleges.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quarters work well

and I’m pretty sure that some combo of Bush/Guillory will hurt – if it’s lack of institutional control, it could be real trouble, most likely it won’t be.

I’m still not sure why Guillory was ever near the program after Trepagnier.

Also, it’s my understanding that an athlete can make up for damage to the APR by coming back to school and progressing towards a degree, which Kevin has indicated he intends to do.

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess after he busts out of the NBA

he’ll have a degree in PE or something to fall back on.

I could totally see him as a junior high gym teacher.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

you seem to be selling him a bit short. He actually did very well at the combine athleticism tests and has lost ~20 lbs since the end of the season. He’s changed my mind from “fringe starter and useful contributor” to “solid starter, potential All-Star if everything breaks right”

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just a hater

and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good, me too

But you win points back for being an M’s fan

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angel Pagan

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 5, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Summer Leagues get better names.

Isliexel Gonzalez. Jetsy Extrano. McyQuin Lora. Rigoberto Rangel. Ambioris Hidalgo. Axel Wel. Janelfry Zorilla.

I could go on.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turn back the clock night...

Arquimedez Pozo!

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he had stuck around...

It would’ve been hard for me now to come up with an image linking him to the Bizarros.

Sealab 2021 or the Superman villain, either or.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yhency Brazoban begs to differ

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 5, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robin Big Snake

Native kid. I saw him at a Vancouver Giants game once.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Incidentally, I have a niece who refers to her breasts as the Vancouver Giants.

I’m not kidding.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitching Coach drafted

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

GET ON WITH THE SECOND ROUND

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

The live feed still has Logan Forsythe as the last pick.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

jimmy rollins, mowin' lawns, blah blah blah...

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I don't understand (and I don't want to sound like a bigot)

Is why when Larry Bird says more white Americans should be in the NBA, he is blasted for making that comment, but when black people complain about there not being enough black people in the MLB anymore, its socially acceptable. I just don’t understand why it works one way and not the other.

by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Double-standards are fun.

(and I say this as a non-black and non-white person)

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm asian.

I laugh at all of your racial double-standards.

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

When driving down the interstate and I see a slow driver in the left lane, I ask my girlfriend

Old or Asian? (you can usually tell because most asians drive new asian made cars and old people drive old falling apart american cars).

by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have several anecdotes to reply with but they're all overly mean to a specific gender

even though in every case so far, I’ve been right in my prediction about the sex of the driver.

by Matthew on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

Asians tend to not like American cars in general. And not like Korean cars either, so that kinda leaves like six or so makes.

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm an asian guy, but I hate US cars for a reason.

I’ve yet to see one that I can afford take the abuse that my two Japanese cars have taken.

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree even though I drive a ford

Seems like Americans can’t keep up. I really want a prius.

by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

excuse me while i gag.

Also, I drive a ford and it is the best vehicle i have ever owned.

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Ping-pong

oh wait that’s just Chinese people

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

So.

The idea Major League Baseball had to generate interest for the draft was to make the first and supplemental rounds four hours long combined.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/

by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear God a movie by the title of "Because I Said So" is starting in five minutes

How did I not hear of this before? It has Diane Keaton and Mandy Moore in it so it must be good

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

You need help

Badly.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I met her in person once

She shocked me by being surprisingly normal-seeming and very good-looking (that part was less shocking)

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 5, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Safeco/Mariners back in the news

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24983537/

for the whole lesbian kiss thing.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

So I hear we traded with the White Sox for Josh Fields

How long until Beltre is gone???

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh?

Oh wait, I think I get it.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been a WS-Josh Fields fan for a while now

This reliever of ours is only going to bug me.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could've had

another Schlereth. Are the DBacks just gonna call him Stinkson?

by AZSEAfan on Jun 5, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big kid.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 5, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with him?

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of a "what have you done lately" kid...and he apparently hasn't.

Sounds like a Mike Wilson from the left side.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 5, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitcher/Outfielder

Probably an outfielder ;P Played at Miami with Yonder.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did well in Cape League, check

disappointing college season, check
corner player, check

we just drafted Matt Mangini again.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that we didn't offer Guillen arbitration

It’s like the 19th worst thing that the Mariners have done over the past twelve months, but whatever. It still displeases me.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

That's what we need...I'm told.

With that, I’m going home.. too much ‘work’ this afternoon.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is the on field delay?

I need answers!

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Threw at Crisp

Crisp charged because it was clearly intentional, Shields missed badly on the first punch, Crisp delivered one…they end up on the ground, Gomes tried to beat Crisp while he was down.

the Rays have their first meaningful division rival brawl! Im so proud.

by Slica on Jun 5, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

Gla dwe got him though, his problems are easily fixed

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell....Miami!!

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Jun 5, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The U

where the football players forget the name of the school and call it “The U” instead

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Memeami

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miami

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

by Brian Floyd on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

We drafted him once before, 49th round of the 2005 draft

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Two college players so far

This team doesn’t want to spend long rebuilding.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

2 College players with glaring problems

they’re fooling themselves on the length of rebuilding by adding these two.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just looked at teh scouting video of Raben

I take back what I said about wanting him. H doesn’t have very good bat speed

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that shock you?

What we see: Two college players with glaring problems.
What the M’s brass sees: a brilliant college arm + a power lefty who will be ready by 2010.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not shocked at all

the organization is futile…. nothing it does shocks me, your post just made it sound like you thought they were actually doing something good.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, nah

You know what they say about the use of sarcasm over the internet.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lobstein to the Rays?

Maybe you guys are on to something.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

This sounds awesome

“Strengths: Arm strength that allows for a fastball up to 94 mph; he shows the ability to throw three average pitches. (though the offspeed offerings are rated as poor currently)

Weaknesses: His fastball is straight; he doesn’t have a long track record of success and is used only as Nebraska’s Sunday pitcher. “

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Raben

http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/dennisrabenreport/

Physical Description – Large, extra strong, muscular frame. Wide shoulders and is a true physical specimen. Thick legs, muscular arms. Probably maxed out physically but as big as he is, that’s fine. Has the look of a slugging big leaguer already. Well proportioned athlete, doesn’t look overly muscled despite his size. Looks like Chipper Jones.

Hitting – As confident a hitter as you’ll see. Good swagger at the plate. Short, powerful stroke with great extension. Long follow through with very little effort through the zone. Ball just explodes off his bat. Smooth, compact swing. Shows ability to use the whole field but doesn’t seem quite committed to it yet. Stays closed, on the ball and lets his hands do the work. Tends to chase the ball up and out of the zone. High setup with his hands, stance looks somewhat like David Justice. Very relaxed at the plate with an aggressive approach. Doesn’t take bad swings. A little pull happy right now and must learn to deal with pitches on the outer half. Looks like he was born to hit, not many things to go array in his swing. Needs some refinement in his approach.

Power – Pure power hitter with plus plus power right now. Hits towering home runs, light tower power. Has the tendency to overswing and doesn’t need to. Can produce 400 foot + home runs with a flick of the wrist. Power is game playable, not just BP power. Can drive the ball out in any part of the park. Has a slight uppercut and produces tremendous loft. Future 40 home run threat.

...

Huh.

by Garces on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

He won't fit in.

Notes – Fiery, emotional player who sometimes can let that get in his way. Can’t stand to lose.

by Garces on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

Definatley not right for Seattle.

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

His stock has fallen a lot since that was written

I wonder if the back injury was still affecting him when he came back last season

by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the pick

His leg kick doesn’t interfere with his mechanics and still loads his arm pretty well, plus it doesn’t leave him in a poor fielding position since he decelerates pretty well

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't mean to pick on you

But are you implying that a pitcher’s mechanics are less important than the quality of his actual pitches?

by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes and no

things like arm loading can tell you things about velocity but there is only so much good mechanics can get you before you need talent. Plus there are so many subtle things you can do and get drastically different results as a pitcher.

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

no not at all,

but I will say that I can get a much better grasp of a pitcher’s mechanics by watching video and seeing things I like versus what I dislike then I can the quality of his pitches. In scouting videos from scout or mlb.com just aren’t long enough to get a real great feel for the quality of pitches he throws

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

addition

I’ve only seen video so I can’t say for sure but it doesn’t look like he is throwing anywhere near max effort which is good. He doesn’t look very comfortable out of the stretch

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he injured it in the brawl.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit

I want to see this brawl so bad!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a video highlight in gameday right now.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

already have it saved to my computer, thanks man

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ty Morrison to Rays

I would like to trade scouting departments.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

His demand weren't rediculous

I wonder why he fell so far. The Royals will need to pony up first round money to keep him away from college

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That last statement might be why

He cna change his mind and decide to hold a team ransom.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But any HS player can do that

Why does one go in the first round and another in the fourth? (Assuming equal talent; my guess is that people soured on Melville’s talent, and didn’t want to spend that much money on a guy that didn’t project as a top of the rotation guy… but who knows)

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh.My.God.

Who the hell wrote the script to “Because I Love You”

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet the author is in there somewhere
Studio research showed that a whopping 82% of the audience was female. 55% of the turnout was 35 or older. 83% was Caucasian.”[3] Opening during Super Bowl weekend may have contributed to the lack of male interest.

by JI on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Karen Leigh Hopkins & Jessie Nelson

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to the commentators covering the draft on MLB.tv

I can hear you guys talk right before whoever is at the podium begins talking.

“Good job.”
“I have to piss.”
”...sigh, this is long.”

by Devin on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Hensley!

Wooo…more college pitching!

by Devin on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Crisp was ejected. He's the guy who first charged the mound.

In the previous inning, Pedroia got hit by a pitch, and then Manny hit a LONG homerun and admired it for like 40 seconds before running the bases.

First Red Sox hitter the following inning was Crisp. He got drilled by the first pitch.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny probably forgot which team he was on.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lemme try this.

Love = The official site.
Hate = everyone else.

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Win

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

by Brian Floyd on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you think he'll think of the draft?

I’m seriously wondering if ANYONE would look at our picks, look at who’s on the board, and go, “The M’s kicked ass today.”

You’re right that if anyone would do it, it’s him, but this may be asking too much.

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Logie might.

Just so he can disagree with Adam on Baker’s blog.

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'll say it was a good draft necessarily

but he will try to find silver lining.
“Fields allows us to slip Morrow into the rotation or to trade Putz. That means that this draft picks allows us to start reloading for 2010. BABVA.”

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! You called it man

I owe you a beer.

I should’ve known.

by marc w on Jun 6, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a link to Hensley

Looking at his game log, he’s really good unless the team he faces has any talent (real D1 schools).

by edddgar on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Good stuff

man, if only he could pitch against Davidson every game.

Seems a bit homer prone, but I don’t know the league average in…whatever tiny league this is. Sunbelt?

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here we Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Image of the day!

Imagine if that connected

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

by Brian Floyd on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Great camerawork

Give that cameraman a raise. Thats amazing timing

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

by Brian Floyd on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is awesome.

Give the guy who took that a raise!

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way ahead of you

I lost it laughing at the swing and miss pic

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie

by Brian Floyd on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

FIAL!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUcking dirtbag

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

And there goes John Lamb in the 5th

I’m not happy with how this day has gone.

Big program, 6’7” guy… another Doug Fister?

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

He's 6' 7"

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

A draft-eligible sophomore?

the 4th starter at LBSU? In the 5th round?

seriously, is Bob Fontaine hogtied and locked in a closet somewhere? Who’s running this shitty show?

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Last year's first few rounds after Aumont weren't much better

But I can’t believe that this is the same Fontaine who netted us Morrow, Tillman, and Butler with his first three picks of the ‘06 draft.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel the opposite

While I generally don’t like “toolsy” guys, everyone was saying that Almonte might have been the best pure athlete in the entire draft.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long Beach State team average k/9: 7+

LBSU team average BB/9: 1.9

Brett Lorin K/9: 5.8
Brett Lorin BB/9: 2.6

by marc w on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus,

that outfield is bad, 2 first basemen and a RF

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i guess

I could be worse. like Raul in center

Royals rock

Mariners suck

by mariners11 on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Jose Lopez

Did you know he has a 110 OPS+ right now? And that his 33 homeruns have come off of 32 pitchers (Paul Byrd being the one he’s struck twice). What a great guy

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny bit of scouting from the MLB tracker on Raben..

Apparently he is a big dude that takes too many pitches, which results in him hitting in negative counts.. Sounds like a problem that this coaching staff can correct! BE AGGRESSIVE!

by seattlesundevil on Jun 5, 2008 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

If anyone is bored look at Shunick

drafted by teh Reds, his arm does this really funky thing as he released the ball.

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

ugh

he’s go hurt his rotator cuff if doesn’t fix that follow through, decelerates way too abruptly

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

* going to

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reliver Mark Worrell homers in his first big league at bat...

lolololololol the Nationals for not being able to retire the Cardinal pitchers (5 RBI)<br />lolololololol the Cardinals for not being able to retire the Nationals.

by JI on Jun 5, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Shields needs to be smarter.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

But we got owned tonight.

We hit two guys, get three of our guys suspended (not including Carl/Aki/Aybar probably getting slapped) and then Lester hits two without getting ejected, including hitting Carl/Aki.

And we’re getting swept with a weak bullpen heading to the west coast (well Texas, then LAA). Just not good.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I'm home

Hensley put up some quality numbers but Elon doesn’t necessarily play a tough schedule. From what others above have read, it appears he struggles against actual competition :/

Look at this pic of Brett Lorin. He looks like Derek Zumsteg’s big younger brother.

Anyway, apparently Fontaine is drunk and on a liquor/RHP bender.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I just went back and looked at Graham's original diary on tRA and ROA

and the second to last comment just made me really sad. Also, is there a reason you guys use tRA more than ROA?

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Jarrett Burgess

Man, good luck finding any info on sub-top tier HS kids, but I can tell you that Burgess’ alma mater, Florida Christian in Miami (and speaking of fixations, the M’s like Miami for some reason) produced fellow M’s prospects Denny Almonte and Ricky Orta.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Starting to?

I guess when you are living it it doesn’t become clear that it’s pathetic until it starts to pass.. I am rapidly approaching the “laughing” stage at this point.. Not so ready for the “fear the future” stage that I am sure is coming.

by seattlesundevil on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

We get swept to fall 15.5 games back

Way under .500, the clubhouse blows up, and now we see one of the more pathetic drafts in recent memory.

When will this team stop kicking us in the nuts?

by BrianL on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Lorin

15 app, 8 GS, 2.61 ERA, 48.1 IP, 4 HR, 14/31 BB/K. From the video, it looks like he works in the high 80’s low 90’s with his fastball, but has trouble locating his breaking ball. He does work some decent offspeed stuff. At 6’7”, he stays tall while throwing from a 3/4 slot. Probably another FISTER in terms of what he brings to the table.

Also, the Long Beach State baseball club is nicknamed the Dirtbags. I find this hilarious, especially when the headline on their CSTV site is Five Dirtbags Selected In 2nd and 3rd Rounds.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Steven Hensley

Looks like he pretty much relies on his low 90’s fastball. Looks like he might have a two seamer but don’t quote me on that, and whatever high 80’s pitch he was throwing did break down a bit but looked pretty meaty. Throws an occasional wonky breaking pitch that floats a bit too much for comfort, and it looks like he struggled to locate it anyway. I can see why he gets hit against better competition: kind of hard to get good hitters out as a starter when you only throw one good pitch.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Pribanic

The scouts say 94 on the fastball but it’s more like 91-93, and he tends to leave that fastball up in the zone. I saw a change with some movement and a slider that has some chain-jerking late swerve. His location certainly needs work but it’s not hopeless. I’m still not thrilled with the pick, which had to be made based on physical build and tools.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

FWIW I try to temper any optimism or pessmism

plus I’m not the most informed guy. I’m probably one of the few M’s fans still paying attention at this point, though.

None of these guys look terrible. They just have their own issues and limits.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something tells me John McMichem had a strong say in picking many of these guys

Sounds like they had their eye on Fields back in March. I bet these guys think nothing of drafting a reliever.

The scout that has been scouting him this past year is named Chuck Carlson and between Craig and Chuck, we feel we have an extensive history with Josh. What I’ve seen of Josh this year, I’ve seen him twice, once was an exhibition game against the Atlanta Braves. We got to see him pitch the third inning of the game, he was 93-97, his breaking ball was a power curveball which was up to 85 miles per hour, he gave up one hit and then retired the next three that he saw. He looked like he fit in in that setting and it wasn’t hard to imagine him being in that setting in the future in a Mariners uniform.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Errr

Question: Do you know who the Mariners closer is?

Fields: I am not sure.

by Kaorikaze on Jun 5, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be so cool

If Fields walked up to JJ Putz and said, “Who the hell are you?”

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF?

I could understand this if Fields was going to the Pirates or something, but until Craptastica 2008 JJ belonged in any discussion about the best closer in baseball. How could you not know who JJ is?

I don’t think this can easily be explained away with the MSM’s “East Coast Bias” either. Blargh.

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on Jun 5, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

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