Amateur Draft Open Thread, Part 3
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
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PrintCarrying this over from the last thread...
First Round: Joshua Fields, RHRP, U Georgia
Fields is a reliever who's walked 42 batters in 70 innings these last two years. He throws hard, with a fastball in the mid-90s and a sharp curve, and he's proven difficult for righties to hit, but he has trouble against lefties and did I mention that he's a reliever? Because if there's one thing this team needs more of, it's right-handed relief pitchers with hard fastballs and iffy control. Also, at an alleged 6', he's one inch taller than Tim Lincecum, who I guess was too little for our likings.
Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb. Taking relievers in the first round is dumb, especially when building an effective bullpen on the cheap is the only thing your GM can do even remotely well. This is the worst season ever.
Second Round: Dennis Raben, LHB COF, U Miami
Big slow dude with power and patience, his scouting report makes him sound an awful lot like Brad Wilkerson (before the aging and injuries). Won't be good in the field; will have to make it with his bat, which has both a bunch of holes and .500 SLG potential.
Third Round: Benjamin Pribanic, RHP, Nebraska
Fourth Round: Steven Hensley, RHP, Elon
Fifth Round: Brett Lorin, RHP, Cal State Long Beach
Jarrett Burgess, RHB COF, high school
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I will never be able to leave the Mariners
But how many years of this shit would make it legit?
In the name of the Bedard, the Felix, and the Ichiro, amen.
by Robert Lintott on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be long dead by the time we win a WS
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
They're getting a ton of production
from guys they got in the minor league FA draft. They’re maximizing their (meager) resources.
Looks to me like they don’t have the fire to stay in this fight…. pansies.
You think the Mariners will someday win a world series?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
In the vacuum of nothingness
A world series celebration for the 1997 Mariners team will appear. And maybe 2001. Great.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
If we don't have hope
we have nothing.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Will we see another pick before I have to leave around 3?
Hmmm…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
Shouldn't we have picked Dykstra?
I thought he had power and good plate approach…I’m glad it took us 2 drafts to get 1 reliever.
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
K rate/contact look suspicious
I’m not too mad that we passed on him, but yeah – would’ve preferred it to what we DID do.
I would rather have Dykstra over Fields
by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Giradi, I suppose.
Farnsworth got to pitch to Rod Barajas instead.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Vidro must have been on deck
the only OTHER player who’s worse…
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
utility infielder
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping he wouldn't single again
Every time he singles it seems like Vidro hits into a double play
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
w/ Sherrill getting his 20th save
I’m really glad the M’s don’t play today.
Sarah Jessica Parker goes for the triple crown on saturday!
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
He's struggled recently
Teams are backing off quickly. It’s weird how they do that with one guy, but Alvarez breaks a bone and then sucks, and still goes #2.
Toolsy multisport high school shortstop is a needs pick now?
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe their 'need' is to spend some of that money
bribing a football player out of his commitment to Tennessee.
Maybe the Sox know something we don’t, but this pick screams train wreck.
Julio Lugo is their SS
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really glad we used our first round pick to cover for a mistake we made ourselves
I’m also really glad we value relief pitching so much that we trade it for Horacio Ramirez.
But we can use Fields as a chip down the road
I hear Ramirez is ‘fixed’ now. Something KC taught him on the landing of his right foot.
I bet the Dodgers would consider flipping Chan Ho Park for Fields too, if we sweetened the pot a bit.
Flexibility
he's excited to do what the club asks him to do, 'help, anyway I can'
he’s confused…didn’t he see ‘The Tirade’ yesterday?
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
Wait though, if Atlanta picked him last year
he should be decent, right?
its ATL, they know pitching, correct?
fuck were fucked arent we
We need a strict "Atheist Only" draft policy.
Like Toronto’s “white only” policy, but more discretionary.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Anyone listening to the Fields interview?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
Among others...
“I prayed about it… a lot…” (on not signing with Braves)
“The Lord blessed me with opportunities…”
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
We’re so glad he’s wearing a blue shirt.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
It looks so much better than a black shirt
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He's ready to be a Mariner
He knows where his priorities lie.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Greatest story ever:
Well, I saw that Gordon had to wear a black shirt. So I asked the media guy here if I could wear my blue shirt and he said yes.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You don't just pull that out of a hat...THAT'S reasearch!
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
You've played baseball your enitre life, what's it like being here on draft day?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So, entertainment either way?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Now we can draft a Micah Owings like player!
Woot!
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I like how one of the D'Backs's back end starters
Is a better hitter than our DH and 1B
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he could be our DH when he isn't pitching
At this point, it would involve trading Clement + Triunfels.
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't actually consider that impressive for a pitcher
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And you consider being better than Vidro impressive?
Although that is kind of comparing apples and oranges
Shoulda gone for bananas and kiwis.
I like midgets more than I should.
Tea and crumpets.
Wait….
I like midgets more than I should.
I'm sure he's tried it before.
I like midgets more than I should.
HEY!! Let it go..NO ONE gets them all right...
or ANY of them if your M’s personel.
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
He sure throws interesting.
I like it. It’s pretty amusing. That was one loopy ass curveball, too.
by the way, I typed “curbeball” and the spell check suggestion was “knuckleball”
WHAT.
Scouting report
Physical Description: He has a lean, wiry and thin frame with whipping arm action—kind of like a more physical Tim Lincecum.
Well that's enough to piss me off.
I like midgets more than I should.
according to the Yakima-Herald
ELLENSBURG—Central Washington senior Jamie Nilsen broke a school record with his 22nd career home run in the first game of a baseball doubleheader sweep of Montana State Billings on Sunday.
Dang, he was in town, I could've watched it....
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
I wonder what he did
in the second game of the doublehader
What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?
So after the first round our organizational needs are as follow
Catching
Corner infield (offense)
Corner infield (glove)
Middle infield (offense)
Middle infield (glove)
Corner outfield (offense)
Corner outfield (glove)
Center field (offense)
Center field (glove)
Positionless bat (offense)
Starting pitching, righty (power)
Starting pitching, righty (control)
Starting pitching, lefty (power)
Starting pitching, lefty (control)
Relief pitching, righty (control)
Relief pitching, lefty (power)
Relief pitching, lefty (control)
Good players
Having watched more video
Fields comes almost completely over the top, which should help his curveball be more of a weapon against both lefties and righties. So that’s something.
Yeah, whatever...
Did his dad play in the NFL?
Didn’t think so.
They showed his ass hair?
I like midgets more than I should.
Ken Griffey Jr....Keep watching....
cos my 6.7 HR/FB ratio means it could be awhile… *ding *ding *ding
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
"Surprised to see"
So many relievers go in the first round.
Ha.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions
Let's see:
Work: Pissing me off.
Odd vibration in my car: Pissing me off.
Gas prices: Pissing me off.
M’s draft: Pissing me off.
At least there’s some consistency. This Fields guy better be one kick-ass reliever.
I like midgets more than I should.
"This Fields guy better be one kick-ass reliever."
I’ve got a funny story about that
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Do tell.....
I like midgets more than I should.
Strikes out a lot of guys with a good curve, lots of trouble throwing strikes
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not funny.
I like midgets more than I should.
His control problems are probably fixable
It’s not that he’s a bad reliever… I just hate it when pitchers don’t know where the zone is
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair Matt Thornton still isn't really good.
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Oh god gammonds.. hilarious
Pat Gillick wants to leave the Phillies better than he found them, that is his moral character.
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
Gillick didn't salt the earth behind him or anything.
I like midgets more than I should.
Part of me actually misses Gillick.
I can’t believe I said that.
Bavasi's giving away chips, but they aren't resulting in wins.
That’s the difference between him and Gillick.
I like midgets more than I should.
Vidro eats the chips
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Explain sandwich picks to me again?
I like midgets more than I should.
Smart teams get them
Pay no attention to them
by Robert on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BBQ sauce on a sandwich?
This had better be some kind of awesome pulled pork sandwich or a weird UK thing
BBQ sauce is good on anything
including BBQ sauce.
Another strike against the Robert/JI ticket
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I put BBQ sauce on damn near everything
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know what would we more weird:
-finding out that you, me and Jeff are long lost relatives or finding out that we’re not actually long lost relatives.
Every family needs a midget.
I like midgets more than I should.
To be fair I did end up with Asian genetics :(
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
BBQ sauce or ranch dressing.
Give me either one and I’m happy.
I like midgets more than I should.
With cream cheese
I fucking hate you Mariners
I thought they were those little colored flag-toothpick things you get in deli sandwiches.
I like midgets more than I should.
This guy is way better than Bud Selig at announcing names
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Maybe he's sober.
I like midgets more than I should.
I have to drink because of my job.
I can’t imagine that’s any better.
I like midgets more than I should.
You know, there seems to be a lot of baseball players in this draft.
According to ESPN, at least.
A PROFESSIONAL HITTER IN COLLEGE
OMG NCAA SCNADAL!!!111
What?
They actually said that?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
"Now this kid here, he's a real basbeball player"
That kind of thing?
I like midgets more than I should.
God I hate ESPN now.
It used to be so cool back in the day.
I like midgets more than I should.
It did go downhill after Olbermann's and Patrick's heads got too big for their bodies.
They became like the bobblehead universe.
I remember watching ESPN when it first came out and being in heaven.
I like midgets more than I should.
Problem was
Once The Big Show got into a groove, then ESPN kept trying to replicate what was really just good chemistry and Olbermann’s charisma, so then every Sportscenter anchor from there tried to become a one liner machine.
Olbermann was good.
Then he did politics, which sucks. Now he does Sunday Night Football on the side and the suckiness has stayed with him.
Sad turn of events.
Funny and good at what he does...he does get heated though.
TV personalities do that for ratings.
I fucking hate you Mariners
They are all horrible, including Olbermann.
I can’t stand to watch any of the political shows for more than 5 minutes.
CNN International is about the only news channel I can enjoy for an extended period of time.
Ok, I think we get it O'Reilly
I fucking hate you Mariners
I knew you'd appreciate the reference.
I fucking hate you Mariners
"This kid's actually a hockey player but we drafted him because he has a badass name"
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Michael Saunders?
Hardly a badass name.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Maximo Mendez.
Now you’re talking.
I like midgets more than I should.
Johnny Champion is still my favourite name ever
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Three words.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Johan Assman
Funny thing is, my girlfriend’s grandma’s maidan name is Assman. And her last name is currently Steinke. Talk about getting hit with the bad name stick.
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
My father apparently used to work with a woman named Annahl Butte
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Years ago, the Astros had to change the team name when they took over the club in Kissimmee FL
because othewise they would’ve been the Kissimmee Astros
it's Wonderful Terrific Monds III
somehow the whole ‘the third’ part makes it even funnier.
I think this might be the most popular hockey jersey in history
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I would write RODNEY GUILLORY over and over again in caps letters
but I’m the one going around loudly proclaiming that OJ Mayo is the best player in this years draft and that I will scream and jump for joy if the Sonics take him and don’t move to OKC
Rodney Guillory remarks
really wouldn’t have an affect on me. I’m upset that they let the guy anywhere near the program. Personally I hope our entire compliance office and Garett get the boot.
At least OJ finished on the honor roll, unlike Love. His academics won’t hurt us like Love’s will hurt ucla.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
But Rodney Guillory will
and when you get right down to it, UCLA’s hoops program has enough built up credit (for the time being) to easily take the impact of a Kevin Love dropping classes mid year. BTW, this is another unfair aspect to NCAA policies in that it’s much harder for a potential hoops player to finish his last year at UCLA and avoid negatively impacting the APR than it is at ‘sc because of the quarter v. semester system.
I'm not entirely convinced that Guillory will hurt us
but I do hope it makes the NCAA change their system, A LOT.
Also ucla should switch to a real system. Quarters are for community colleges.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Quarters work well
and I’m pretty sure that some combo of Bush/Guillory will hurt – if it’s lack of institutional control, it could be real trouble, most likely it won’t be.
I’m still not sure why Guillory was ever near the program after Trepagnier.
Also, it’s my understanding that an athlete can make up for damage to the APR by coming back to school and progressing towards a degree, which Kevin has indicated he intends to do.
I guess after he busts out of the NBA
he’ll have a degree in PE or something to fall back on.
I could totally see him as a junior high gym teacher.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Haha
you seem to be selling him a bit short. He actually did very well at the combine athleticism tests and has lost ~20 lbs since the end of the season. He’s changed my mind from “fringe starter and useful contributor” to “solid starter, potential All-Star if everything breaks right”
I'm just a hater
and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Good, me too
But you win points back for being an M’s fan
It was great when he played in Calgary and they wore the jersey with the demonic horse head
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Angel Pagan
I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little
Summer Leagues get better names.
Isliexel Gonzalez. Jetsy Extrano. McyQuin Lora. Rigoberto Rangel. Ambioris Hidalgo. Axel Wel. Janelfry Zorilla.
I could go on.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Turn back the clock night...
Arquimedez Pozo!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If he had stuck around...
It would’ve been hard for me now to come up with an image linking him to the Bizarros.
Sealab 2021 or the Superman villain, either or.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, I don't think his dad ever saw him play.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Yhency Brazoban begs to differ
I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little
It works for my fantasy team.
Oh wait…I can’t say that here.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Robin Big Snake
Native kid. I saw him at a Vancouver Giants game once.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Incidentally, I have a niece who refers to her breasts as the Vancouver Giants.
I’m not kidding.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Says a man writing a letter to his dog
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
btw
we have confirmation that the two grinding fursuits are guys
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
GET ON WITH THE SECOND ROUND
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
So my draft tracker isn't stuck then, eh?
Is this a tv ad break or something
The live feed still has Logan Forsythe as the last pick.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
jimmy rollins, mowin' lawns, blah blah blah...
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
What I don't understand (and I don't want to sound like a bigot)
Is why when Larry Bird says more white Americans should be in the NBA, he is blasted for making that comment, but when black people complain about there not being enough black people in the MLB anymore, its socially acceptable. I just don’t understand why it works one way and not the other.
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Double-standards are fun.
(and I say this as a non-black and non-white person)
I'm asian.
I laugh at all of your racial double-standards.
When driving down the interstate and I see a slow driver in the left lane, I ask my girlfriend
Old or Asian? (you can usually tell because most asians drive new asian made cars and old people drive old falling apart american cars).
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I have several anecdotes to reply with but they're all overly mean to a specific gender
even though in every case so far, I’ve been right in my prediction about the sex of the driver.
Pretty much
Asians tend to not like American cars in general. And not like Korean cars either, so that kinda leaves like six or so makes.
I'm an asian guy, but I hate US cars for a reason.
I’ve yet to see one that I can afford take the abuse that my two Japanese cars have taken.
I agree even though I drive a ford
Seems like Americans can’t keep up. I really want a prius.
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
excuse me while i gag.
Also, I drive a ford and it is the best vehicle i have ever owned.
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I hated math and I'm a good driver.
Ha I defy your stereotypes!
This statement is actually very true.
I hate math, love baseball, and I drive competently to boot.
I also fail the car test. I do not own a riced-out Acura.
And Ping-pong
oh wait that’s just Chinese people
So.
The idea Major League Baseball had to generate interest for the draft was to make the first and supplemental rounds four hours long combined.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/milb-mariners/
by JY on Jun 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm quick with poop jokes.
I like midgets more than I should.
It might have had something to do with the fact I had to go to the bathroom at the time.
I like midgets more than I should.
Well..went to college..graduated in 2007. Prior work experience at the law school on campus. References upon request.
I fucking hate you Mariners
It's not cool when they phone jihad your prospective employer.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Like I'm going to let you get hired ahead of me
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just going to poach your jobs whenever they ask for references
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, clearly they'll hire you seeing as we have completely different technical backgrounds and training...
Your planning is full of fail, what are you trying to do? Get hired by the Mariners?
You can see the subtle genius at work huh
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Enjoy getting hired and then fired when Bavasi is sacked.
Me, I’m holding out for the new regime.
That still sounds better than my job.
I like midgets more than I should.
Lookout Landing Wool Sock?
I’m not good with anachronisms
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah - it's pretty boring until it's finished, but while it's being knitted...
wayyyyyy too much excitement
Dammit
it’s pretty boring once it’s finished
BRB gotta go throw my keyboard under the bus
I wish I had managed to find a picture of a knight riding a dinosaur here
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Little League World Series.
I like midgets more than I should.
Dear God a movie by the title of "Because I Said So" is starting in five minutes
How did I not hear of this before? It has Diane Keaton and Mandy Moore in it so it must be good
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Mandy Moore is cute
she’s really underrated
I met her in person once
She shocked me by being surprisingly normal-seeming and very good-looking (that part was less shocking)
I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little
If this were in any way true I would support it.
But it’s not. They just really are that stupid. It’s hard to fathom actually.
If this is the case:
Best pick ever.
(PS-This is totally not the case.)
-aaron c.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Excuuuuuuuuse me for trying to find the silver lining here...
runs away crying
Because you touch yourself at night
I fucking hate you Mariners
Safeco/Mariners back in the news
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24983537/
for the whole lesbian kiss thing.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Safeco/Mariners back in the news
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24983537/
for the whole lesbian kiss thing.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
So I hear we traded with the White Sox for Josh Fields
How long until Beltre is gone???
The artist formerly known as Katal
Huh?
Oh wait, I think I get it.
I like midgets more than I should.
I've been a WS-Josh Fields fan for a while now
This reliever of ours is only going to bug me.
The artist formerly known as Katal
I've heard those aren't welcome at Safeco.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ITS ....Dennis Rayben...?OF....lefty!! WHooo
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
Kind of a "what have you done lately" kid...and he apparently hasn't.
Sounds like a Mike Wilson from the left side.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Did well in Cape League, check
disappointing college season, check
corner player, check
we just drafted Matt Mangini again.
Love of bukkake?
Hopefully check
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was understood
but go ahead and add it if you think it helps.
I hate that we didn't offer Guillen arbitration
It’s like the 19th worst thing that the Mariners have done over the past twelve months, but whatever. It still displeases me.
The artist formerly known as Katal
That's what we need...I'm told.
With that, I’m going home.. too much ‘work’ this afternoon.
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
Scouting report says he takes too many pitches he'll never be a Mariner.
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What the hell does Shields think he's doing
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions
Threw at Crisp
Crisp charged because it was clearly intentional, Shields missed badly on the first punch, Crisp delivered one…they end up on the ground, Gomes tried to beat Crisp while he was down.
the Rays have their first meaningful division rival brawl! Im so proud.
Miami
Gla dwe got him though, his problems are easily fixed
by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The U
where the football players forget the name of the school and call it “The U” instead
I heard Miami.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Hey, looks like you found the answer to your own question!
didn’t even need our help
We drafted him once before, 49th round of the 2005 draft
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Two college players so far
This team doesn’t want to spend long rebuilding.
The artist formerly known as Katal
2 College players with glaring problems
they’re fooling themselves on the length of rebuilding by adding these two.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
I just looked at teh scouting video of Raben
I take back what I said about wanting him. H doesn’t have very good bat speed
by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Does that shock you?
What we see: Two college players with glaring problems.
What the M’s brass sees: a brilliant college arm + a power lefty who will be ready by 2010.
The artist formerly known as Katal
I'm not shocked at all
the organization is futile…. nothing it does shocks me, your post just made it sound like you thought they were actually doing something good.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
Lobstein to the Rays?
Maybe you guys are on to something.
This sounds awesome
“Strengths: Arm strength that allows for a fastball up to 94 mph; he shows the ability to throw three average pitches. (though the offspeed offerings are rated as poor currently)
Weaknesses: His fastball is straight; he doesn’t have a long track record of success and is used only as Nebraska’s Sunday pitcher. “
Raben
http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/dennisrabenreport/
Physical Description – Large, extra strong, muscular frame. Wide shoulders and is a true physical specimen. Thick legs, muscular arms. Probably maxed out physically but as big as he is, that’s fine. Has the look of a slugging big leaguer already. Well proportioned athlete, doesn’t look overly muscled despite his size. Looks like Chipper Jones.
Hitting – As confident a hitter as you’ll see. Good swagger at the plate. Short, powerful stroke with great extension. Long follow through with very little effort through the zone. Ball just explodes off his bat. Smooth, compact swing. Shows ability to use the whole field but doesn’t seem quite committed to it yet. Stays closed, on the ball and lets his hands do the work. Tends to chase the ball up and out of the zone. High setup with his hands, stance looks somewhat like David Justice. Very relaxed at the plate with an aggressive approach. Doesn’t take bad swings. A little pull happy right now and must learn to deal with pitches on the outer half. Looks like he was born to hit, not many things to go array in his swing. Needs some refinement in his approach.
Power – Pure power hitter with plus plus power right now. Hits towering home runs, light tower power. Has the tendency to overswing and doesn’t need to. Can produce 400 foot + home runs with a flick of the wrist. Power is game playable, not just BP power. Can drive the ball out in any part of the park. Has a slight uppercut and produces tremendous loft. Future 40 home run threat.
...
Huh.
He won't fit in.
Notes – Fiery, emotional player who sometimes can let that get in his way. Can’t stand to lose.
His stock has fallen a lot since that was written
I wonder if the back injury was still affecting him when he came back last season
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the pick
His leg kick doesn’t interfere with his mechanics and still loads his arm pretty well, plus it doesn’t leave him in a poor fielding position since he decelerates pretty well
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I don't mean to pick on you
But are you implying that a pitcher’s mechanics are less important than the quality of his actual pitches?
by Graham MacAree on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
yes and no
things like arm loading can tell you things about velocity but there is only so much good mechanics can get you before you need talent. Plus there are so many subtle things you can do and get drastically different results as a pitcher.
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
no not at all,
but I will say that I can get a much better grasp of a pitcher’s mechanics by watching video and seeing things I like versus what I dislike then I can the quality of his pitches. In scouting videos from scout or mlb.com just aren’t long enough to get a real great feel for the quality of pitches he throws
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
addition
I’ve only seen video so I can’t say for sure but it doesn’t look like he is throwing anywhere near max effort which is good. He doesn’t look very comfortable out of the stretch
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Jacoby leaves game with injured hand/wrist
ahahahah
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions
Dammit
I want to see this brawl so bad!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
awesome
already have it saved to my computer, thanks man
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
You know it was a good fight when the pitching team's DH gets ejected.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Ty Morrison to Rays
I would like to trade scouting departments.
His demand weren't rediculous
I wonder why he fell so far. The Royals will need to pony up first round money to keep him away from college
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
But any HS player can do that
Why does one go in the first round and another in the fourth? (Assuming equal talent; my guess is that people soured on Melville’s talent, and didn’t want to spend that much money on a guy that didn’t project as a top of the rotation guy… but who knows)
Oh.My.God.
Who the hell wrote the script to “Because I Love You”
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe one day you'll be flipping channels and be like "'Because I Love You' has Mandy Moore in it and she's attractive. Maybe I should watch it"
Do not watch it
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
A Walk to Remember has Mandy Moore in it and she's attractive
and has no Diane Keaton orgasming. It’s much better.
OK well, I just saw Diane Keaton making out and heard her orgasm.
I feel sick
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The film received overwhelmingly negative reviews, scoring 5% on RottenTomatoes.com
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That's pretty generous of them
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This movie's Wikipedia page is making it sound worse by the minute
this is one of the worst premises ever
I can't wait for it to be over
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
YES
I triumphed over my natural instinct to change the channel once again. That was even worse than Indiana Jones 4
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bet the author is in there somewhere
Studio research showed that a whopping 82% of the audience was female. 55% of the turnout was 35 or older. 83% was Caucasian.”[3] Opening during Super Bowl weekend may have contributed to the lack of male interest.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll enjoy this
Because I Said So is the lowest rated of Mandy Moore’s 18 movies
And you just watched the whole damn thing
Don't forget I've also seen License to Wed
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw that movie too
Part of a double feature with Oceans 13. It was like one movie for the price of two.
Note to the commentators covering the draft on MLB.tv
I can hear you guys talk right before whoever is at the podium begins talking.
“Good job.”
“I have to piss.”
”...sigh, this is long.”
To top this shit draft off, TB is getting destroyed
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
Crisp was ejected. He's the guy who first charged the mound.
In the previous inning, Pedroia got hit by a pitch, and then Manny hit a LONG homerun and admired it for like 40 seconds before running the bases.
First Red Sox hitter the following inning was Crisp. He got drilled by the first pitch.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I bet I can predict what Mariner websites are going to love or hate
our draft.
The artist formerly known as Katal
Lemme try this.
Love = The official site.
Hate = everyone else.
What do you think he'll think of the draft?
I’m seriously wondering if ANYONE would look at our picks, look at who’s on the board, and go, “The M’s kicked ass today.”
You’re right that if anyone would do it, it’s him, but this may be asking too much.
Logie might.
Just so he can disagree with Adam on Baker’s blog.
I don't think he'll say it was a good draft necessarily
but he will try to find silver lining.
“Fields allows us to slip Morrow into the rotation or to trade Putz. That means that this draft picks allows us to start reloading for 2010. BABVA.”
The artist formerly known as Katal
Ha! You called it man
I owe you a beer.
I should’ve known.
This isn't a website, it's an internet abortion.
This nutcase thinks Griffey will be a great player at age 39?
Good lord, I hadn't read that in a while
How can one man be so consistently wrong?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
DOV: Sanctuary for Mariner fans that were laughed
out of LL and USSM.
The artist formerly known as Katal
Here's a link to Hensley
Looking at his game log, he’s really good unless the team he faces has any talent (real D1 schools).
Damn, Elon has a sick background for their site.
I guess that’s what happens when your team is called the Flames
*Phoenix
whoa my brain doesn’t work very well
Good stuff
man, if only he could pitch against Davidson every game.
Seems a bit homer prone, but I don’t know the league average in…whatever tiny league this is. Sunbelt?
Here we Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
That is awesome.
Give the guy who took that a raise!
I like midgets more than I should.
FIAL!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Is that Francona out there?
I like midgets more than I should.
FUcking dirtbag
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Day one of the draft has been an absolute disaster.
Please, can we fire Bill now?
And there goes John Lamb in the 5th
I’m not happy with how this day has gone.
Big program, 6’7” guy… another Doug Fister?
Not nearly as good of a name as Fister though.
I like midgets more than I should.
He's 6' 7"
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
A draft-eligible sophomore?
the 4th starter at LBSU? In the 5th round?
seriously, is Bob Fontaine hogtied and locked in a closet somewhere? Who’s running this shitty show?
This is such a depature form last year's draft.
What the hell happened?
Now we know who Selig's drinking buddy was
I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little
It's almost like Fontaine wasn't even present for the draft.
What an unmitigated disaster.
Last year's first few rounds after Aumont weren't much better
But I can’t believe that this is the same Fontaine who netted us Morrow, Tillman, and Butler with his first three picks of the ‘06 draft.
The artist formerly known as Katal
I'll take Danny Carroll over this
though Almonte was a head-scratcher.
I feel the opposite
While I generally don’t like “toolsy” guys, everyone was saying that Almonte might have been the best pure athlete in the entire draft.
The artist formerly known as Katal
But most said that he had very little baseball ability
and a weird swing.
Long Beach State team average k/9: 7+
LBSU team average BB/9: 1.9
Brett Lorin K/9: 5.8
Brett Lorin BB/9: 2.6
I actually think we have a pretty strong minor league system below AAA
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, you're right.
If only we still had those three great arms we shipped out to Baltimore.
Yeah,
I miss Chris Tillman. The worst part of it is Tillman and Bulter were complete steals in the draft.
by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 5, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
GOD THE RED SOX HAVE THREE BIG WHITE GUYS IN THE OUTFIELD RIGHT NOW
How has TB not scored 380000000 runs by now
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM PDT reply actions
Jesus,
that outfield is bad, 2 first basemen and a RF
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Speaking of Jose Lopez
Did you know he has a 110 OPS+ right now? And that his 33 homeruns have come off of 32 pitchers (Paul Byrd being the one he’s struck twice). What a great guy
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply actions
Funny bit of scouting from the MLB tracker on Raben..
Apparently he is a big dude that takes too many pitches, which results in him hitting in negative counts.. Sounds like a problem that this coaching staff can correct! BE AGGRESSIVE!
Jarret Burgess eh... ?
Anyone know anything about him?
If anyone is bored look at Shunick
drafted by teh Reds, his arm does this really funky thing as he released the ball.
ugh
he’s go hurt his rotator cuff if doesn’t fix that follow through, decelerates way too abruptly
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
* going to
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Reliver Mark Worrell homers in his first big league at bat...
lolololololol the Nationals for not being able to retire the Cardinal pitchers (5 RBI)<br />lolololololol the Cardinals for not being able to retire the Nationals.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I beginning to think the reason that only I fail like this
is because other people are able to delete their own posts, therefore making them appear to be less foolish.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Wayne Krivsky
He wants to make sure Bavasi gets canned so he gets the job.
by Fin on Jun 5, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I fully expect Krivsky will be our new GM.
It will be a dark day in Mariner nation.
Shields needs to be smarter.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
But we got owned tonight.
We hit two guys, get three of our guys suspended (not including Carl/Aki/Aybar probably getting slapped) and then Lester hits two without getting ejected, including hitting Carl/Aki.
And we’re getting swept with a weak bullpen heading to the west coast (well Texas, then LAA). Just not good.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not happening man, not tonight.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I'm home
Hensley put up some quality numbers but Elon doesn’t necessarily play a tough schedule. From what others above have read, it appears he struggles against actual competition :/
Look at this pic of Brett Lorin. He looks like Derek Zumsteg’s big younger brother.
Anyway, apparently Fontaine is drunk and on a liquor/RHP bender.
I just went back and looked at Graham's original diary on tRA and ROA
and the second to last comment just made me really sad. Also, is there a reason you guys use tRA more than ROA?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
Jarrett Burgess
Man, good luck finding any info on sub-top tier HS kids, but I can tell you that Burgess’ alma mater, Florida Christian in Miami (and speaking of fixations, the M’s like Miami for some reason) produced fellow M’s prospects Denny Almonte and Ricky Orta.
Too bad that's not the kid who cheated in the LLWS
or else we’d be on to something.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the second mention of the Lookout Landing Wool Sock
Why have I not seen it before, and how can you cheat in a sock?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
A little more on Jarrett Burgess
6’3, 180, RH bat, and has played tournaments with the World Wood Bat Association, one as recently as this past weekend, so he has some experience, however little, with hitting with a wood bat.
If he was Ryan Ludwick would be standing on first right now.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the Nationals blow the 7-0 lead
they truly are worse than us.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
But we never even get a chance to give up a lead
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Better to get your ass kicked than to have lead and lost.
by JI on Jun 5, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pulling for a walkoff from Dukes or Milledge
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the most pathetic weeks in Mariners history?
I’m starting to think so.
Starting to?
I guess when you are living it it doesn’t become clear that it’s pathetic until it starts to pass.. I am rapidly approaching the “laughing” stage at this point.. Not so ready for the “fear the future” stage that I am sure is coming.
by seattlesundevil on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We get swept to fall 15.5 games back
Way under .500, the clubhouse blows up, and now we see one of the more pathetic drafts in recent memory.
When will this team stop kicking us in the nuts?
If we didn't have testicles
they’d just verbally abuse us instead. Why must I keep coming back for more?
I need help.
Brett Lorin
15 app, 8 GS, 2.61 ERA, 48.1 IP, 4 HR, 14/31 BB/K. From the video, it looks like he works in the high 80’s low 90’s with his fastball, but has trouble locating his breaking ball. He does work some decent offspeed stuff. At 6’7”, he stays tall while throwing from a 3/4 slot. Probably another FISTER in terms of what he brings to the table.
Also, the Long Beach State baseball club is nicknamed the Dirtbags. I find this hilarious, especially when the headline on their CSTV site is Five Dirtbags Selected In 2nd and 3rd Rounds.
Steven Hensley
Looks like he pretty much relies on his low 90’s fastball. Looks like he might have a two seamer but don’t quote me on that, and whatever high 80’s pitch he was throwing did break down a bit but looked pretty meaty. Throws an occasional wonky breaking pitch that floats a bit too much for comfort, and it looks like he struggled to locate it anyway. I can see why he gets hit against better competition: kind of hard to get good hitters out as a starter when you only throw one good pitch.
Even Baker doesn't understand the "use #1 pick on reliever" thing.
He has an interview with Fontaine up. No real ground broken here.
He missed the important question:
Why a reliever?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 5, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Baker is numb to these moronic decisions now.
He’s becoming as apathetic as we are.
Pribanic
The scouts say 94 on the fastball but it’s more like 91-93, and he tends to leave that fastball up in the zone. I saw a change with some movement and a slider that has some chain-jerking late swerve. His location certainly needs work but it’s not hopeless. I’m still not thrilled with the pick, which had to be made based on physical build and tools.
Your reports on these picks fill me with despair.
::runs out of the room crying::
FWIW I try to temper any optimism or pessmism
plus I’m not the most informed guy. I’m probably one of the few M’s fans still paying attention at this point, though.
None of these guys look terrible. They just have their own issues and limits.
Something tells me John McMichem had a strong say in picking many of these guys
Sounds like they had their eye on Fields back in March. I bet these guys think nothing of drafting a reliever.
The scout that has been scouting him this past year is named Chuck Carlson and between Craig and Chuck, we feel we have an extensive history with Josh. What I’ve seen of Josh this year, I’ve seen him twice, once was an exhibition game against the Atlanta Braves. We got to see him pitch the third inning of the game, he was 93-97, his breaking ball was a power curveball which was up to 85 miles per hour, he gave up one hit and then retired the next three that he saw. He looked like he fit in in that setting and it wasn’t hard to imagine him being in that setting in the future in a Mariners uniform.
It must be noted that the above observation was from a ST exhibition game, back in March
Meaning they believed this back in March.
Errr
Question: Do you know who the Mariners closer is?
Fields: I am not sure.
WTF?
I could understand this if Fields was going to the Pirates or something, but until Craptastica 2008 JJ belonged in any discussion about the best closer in baseball. How could you not know who JJ is?
I don’t think this can easily be explained away with the MSM’s “East Coast Bias” either. Blargh.
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on Jun 5, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
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