Lookout Landing: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:

Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: World Soccer Digest for Soccer Fans!

McLaren sounds about done..

Tiny by seattlesundevil on Comment 337 comments

This may just be emotion spilling over from another rough series where nothing went right (funny how no talent leads to nothing going right..) but, this is from Baker's blog ..

 

"We're playing our (bleep) off every day and got nothing to show for it. I'm tired of (bleeping) losing, I'm tired of getting my (bleep) beat, and so have those guys. We gotta change this (bleeping bleep) around and get after it. And only we can do it. The fans are (bleeped) off, and I'm (bleeped) off, and the players are (bleeped) off. And that's the way it is. There's no (bleeping) easy way out of this, can't feel sorry for ourself, we gotta (bleeping) buckle it up and get after it. I'm tired of (bleep) losing this, (bleeping) every night we bust our (bleep). It's gotta be a total team (bleeping) effort to turn this thing around, and that's it."

 

How much more of this can possibly be had? Half empty, quarter full ballparks seem to be the first sign, but cmon..

 

Maybe Bavasi will be out on his ass after this weekend's Ammy draft and Mac can follow.. one can dream right?

2 recs  |  Comment 337 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

If I were Mac, I'd quit.

Not for any professional baseball reason, but just to get out of a bad job. The FO isn’t going to do anything to make his job easier, the fans hate him. Might as well just cut your losses and take an early retirement.

Settling down on a nice beachfront house will probably be better for his longterm health than trying to manage this disaster of a team.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking..

He sounds like a man who is about to quit a shitty job because he cannot stand it anymore.

by seattlesundevil on Jun 4, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grover

On a radio interview today, Jeff Nelson insinuated that Grover saw the tube this team was headed down and got out while he still could.

Sounds like Gover wasn’t that stupid afterall. No way would I work for Bavasi.

by batura on Jun 4, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Mariners should go out and find the youngest, smartest, most energetic

new manager they can find to replace McLaren. Someone youthful with energy could get that spark back and light a fire under a team that is really not all that bad, and make them competative again. A new young manager could demand the best effort the players have to offer and restore confidence in an already perfectly capable team.

by 44FAN on Jun 4, 2008 6:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck that

we’re better off losing 100+

by Matthew on Jun 4, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn right

The lame manager is the least of this organization’s problems. Bringing in a new manager who stumbles upon a lucky hot streak would just allow for this farce to continue.

My whole perspective has changed on this season. For me, it’s like they’re winning when they lose. I’m following the standings like it’s a playoff chase, rooting for Colorado and Kansas City to win every night.

by discovolante on Jun 4, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

STRAAAASSSBUUURGGG!

Eh, I really can’t get too optimistic as long as Howie and Chuck are still at the helm of this sinking ship.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Opps

I need to new keyboard.

Good thing Fontaine is in charge of the draft*

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the job

We’ll be the most obnoxious team of all time, double stealing, bunt and running, crazy lineups. We’d lose 100 games but it would be a fun 100 losses.

by Gomez on Jun 4, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm young and energetic

I’ll take you up on your offer

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Jun 4, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I be a player manager?

I’d have myself start every game, even if I had dead arm

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Jun 4, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya know

It wouldn’t hurt the team much right now to have a fan be DH for a day.

That’d be a pretty good promo. Or maybe celebrity DH night. I’m sure they could mix it up a little.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coach Owens!

or just some random fan … either way is fine by me.

by mark sobba on Jun 4, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Presented for review

My list of managers I never want to hear associated with the phrase M’s managerial vacancy>

Lou Piniella – it’s over. It’s not 1995 any more. Move on.
Bobby Valentine – never going to happen. He’s happy where he is, he’s a rock star in Japan and he’s not going to leave.
Buck Showalter – not a good manager
Any A’s castoff – just because he worked with Billy Beane doesn’t make him good

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So would you want Bobby Valentine if he was available?

And I can’t blame him for wanting to stay in Japan. Being a gaijin in Japan is about the greatest place to be on Earth.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was available, sure

but he’s not, so it’s a dead issue.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it is a dead issue, though.

Valentine has spent enough time in Japan to get the urge to find work back in the states. New York was a bad place for him because he hates the politics. Seattle might be the perfect place for him because he can bring over particular Japanese talent he knows would fit well in his system.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lessee....

hero in current position, an entire nation adores him. But, could come back to the states to manage…the worst team in baseball, with no real turnaround on the horizon? Let’s just say I don’t see it happening any time soon. And it’s not like he could bring over anyone he wants – there is no free agency between Japan and the US, players have to go through the posting system.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not every player is posted because they play the required amount of years to reach free agency.

And yes, Valentine is in a cushy position, but we don’t know if his desire to come back to the U.S. would be enough for him to leave Japan.

It’s not a dead issue until there is confirmation he has turned down a coaching position in the U.S. As far as we know, he may just be waiting to be contacted by someone. What more does Valentine have to prove in Japan after winning the league title last year? This offseason may be the perfect window to offer him a job and he accept it.

I will accept this is a dead issue through the rest of the season, though. But don’t be peeved if his name comes up this offseason.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's an outside chance he'd come back stateside, sure.

If he does, Seattle would probably be high on his list. Really, though, he’s doing fine in Japan. I don’t see him leaving.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NY was a bad place

for him because team ownership was idiotic.

As Bobby V said when told of his firing by the Wilpons, “you’re firing me and keeping him

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 4, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, the "him"

refers to Steve Phillips. Sentence got eaten.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 4, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the A's castoffs.

The only reason Billy Beane hired ‘em was because they agreed to never say “no” to him.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dump Bavasi

What does it take for someone to lose their job on this team???? Is Seattle that mellow of a baseball town. Better to be in the Midwest or East where poor performance isn’t tolerated for too long.

by Jmnor8 on Jun 4, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Your grammar...

It leaves much to be desired.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bavasi is...

...the least of the problems.

There needs to be a top to bottom sweep and readjustment of baseball philosophy and organizational management.

Get Armstrong and Lincoln out of there. Get scouts and player personnel who live in the 21st, not the 19th, Century. And get some people who know how stats REALLY work, and aren’t wedded to disproven concepts like defense=error avoidance, protection and all that Middle Aged thinking.

by rtang on Jun 4, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say Bavasi is the least of our problems...

But your sentiments about Armstrong and Lincoln are correct. However, so long as the current ownership maintains the rights to the Mariners, you’re not going to see Armstrong and Lincoln go anywhere. Until those two die, or the team is sold to Paul Allen, it’ll be a lot more of the same.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd feel bad for him but he has put Cairo in the lineup multiple times

That alone shows he lacks the basic intelligence needed to perform daily tasks.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....

...you gotta be really bad when Willie Bloomquist is a SUPERIOR alternative you’re leaving on the bench.

by rtang on Jun 4, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares?

They’ll just hire some other idiot manager, idiot gm, and it will all repeat. We will just have to wait until Howard and Lincoln die, and who knows how long that will take?

Until then, go shit bag M’s!

by marinator on Jun 4, 2008 6:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do you think Nintendo is the problem?

The next owner will probably be worse. I don’t think you realize how bad it really actually is.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

A new ownership group may be willing to take a new approach. We’re talking higher than Yamauchi here.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In lighter discussion

Brett did you listen to the podcast piece John Morgan did today?

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not. Where could I find it?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. There.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing we haven't heard from John before

but it was a pretty well done segment.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah like cut payroll

Nintendo is a pretty decent owner. I’m not gonna complain about them. Remember before they bought the team?

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, if the right people were hired and payroll got cut

I don’t think I’d mind all that much. Let’s face it, our current payroll with this FO isn’t doing shit to help us compete.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if they cut payroll as long as they spend what their payroll is wisely?

I’d rather have a smart $60 million payroll than a stupid $117

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahhaha

yeah that’ll happen.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never know with different OWNERSHIP

That’s what we’re talking about. Different OWNERSHIP not a different GM

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah i know

I’m just cynical about different ownerships. If you exclude Paul Allen (Angel of Owners) all the other owners of my teams have sucked balls.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A more progressive ownership group would probably serve this team well.

They’d be far more likely to embrace statistical analysis as a way of maximizing performance and revenue.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand it could be good

But in the grand scheme of things Nintendo has been a pretty good ownership group. They’ve provided a good connection with Japan (Ichiro, Kenji, ect) and increased the payroll dramatically since taking over. We have had good success under their ownership even though we haven’t done as well as we would like.

I don’t really have any evidence that Nintendo is to blame. They seem to be very hands-off as far as owners go. The Mariners have continued to make a large amount of money and it sounds like as long as that continues Nintendo will for the most part keep its hands away from the day to day operations.

Hopefully the losing season this year will open some eyes and realize that ACTUALLY TRYING TO WIN is important. Hopefully they will realize you can’t just try to patch a team together and shoot for an average record because if anything goes wrong your team turns into the 2008 Mariners. Hopefully this year will wake up people and make them look around and evaluate how to build a team. That or they’ll all get canned and new people will be brought in and expected to be better (which wouldn’t be hard). Hmm this kinda turned into rambling so time to hit the post button.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to accept that scrapping much of the roster and rebuilding isn't a bad thing

They also need to keep the roster meddling to a minimum. Don’t go to the front office and ask them to sign/not sign a guy except in special cases.

by Gomez on Jun 4, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Resigning Kenji is not a bad move because our payroll is big enough

to take these types of contracts. I’m pretty sure Nintendo wasn’t asking for Washburn/Silva/Sexson/etc which are the ones that really hurt.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know everybody is gonna say a bad contract is a bad contract

and they all add up but Nintendo gives us a big enough payroll where i think its fine for them to request a move like this occasionally. I also don’t really think that Kenji will be blocking Clement if Kenji continues to suck. At some point winning matters and even the M’s can see this.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know everybody is gonna say a bad contract is a bad contract

and they all add up but Nintendo gives us a big enough payroll where i think its fine for them to request a move like this occasionally. I also don’t really think that Kenji will be blocking Clement if Kenji continues to suck. At some point winning matters and even the M’s can see this.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though the double post does indeed make you look retarded...

...your thoughts on ownership and the direction the M’s need to take are well put and well thought out.

Just thought I should say that.

by esoteric on Jun 4, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hold out a faint glimmer of hope that Paul Allen will one day own this team.

And when that day comes, I shall make a pilgrimage to Safeco Field to offer a burnt sacrifice to appease the mighty Paul.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Costco should buy the team

Then I could get a sausage and soda at a game for $1.50

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But you'd get forty-six sausages and a seventy-four case of 20 oz. sodas.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love their Pizza

Such a good value. Either a slice for like a buck fifty, or a whole pizza for like 8 dollars, and it is pretty good quality too.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah

And I’d totally be there for Retractable Lawn Chair and 100 Corn Dogs Night

by Gomez on Jun 4, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we can blame Nintendo for this futility.

The principle owner of this team is shelling out close to $120 million for the roster alone. I know he may have had a hand in the Johjima extension, but Ichiro is here as well, likely because of him.

But removing Lincoln and Armstrong is probably the only thing we can blame the principle owner for. The Japanese are notorious at keeping management together. It’s bad business to fire upper management in Japan, let alone any employee.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait isnt "Howard and Lincoln" the same person

Howard Lincoln
Chuck Armstrong?

yes?

yes?

by PShwa on Jun 4, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh they're interchangable.

Both are incompetent failures.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hah, wow i need some sleep

I just copied him. does that make it better or worse.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would take him more seriously

if Cairo wasn’t randomly batting 2nd(I’ll change this to “If Cairo wasn’t in the lineup at all)
if Vidro wasn’t in the lineup, let alone batting 3rd/4th
if Sexson was gone
If Cairo was gone, and Norton was still here
Jeff Clement, please come back
if Morrow was being stretched out
if the lineup made us happy even once this season
If RR-S was acknowledged by him at all

shall I continue?

by PShwa on Jun 4, 2008 6:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well yes

but off the bench is a 100x better option than Cairo(pinch hitting, at least. Running or Fielding, I would assume not)

by PShwa on Jun 4, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I guess our perception of 100x better is skewed just cause this team sucks so much.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 4, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff for GM, Gomez for Manager!!

Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.

by PhilKenSebben on Jun 4, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dave Cameron

Assistant to the General Manager.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Graham

Director of foreign scouting?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanna push the button to the open and close the roof at Safeco!

I can handle it! I swear!

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on Jun 4, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need someone with more veteran grit

sorry. Maybe Washburn can do it once his contract is up.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck that.

Let’s make him the most highly paid roof opener in baseball, starting tomorrow.

-aaron c.

by acblue on Jun 4, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to be offical scorer..

And can i have an unlimited beer pass too?

I guarantee i can be home town biased

by laxtonto on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No!

I would be so fired before my first game!

by Gomez on Jun 4, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I am sure you couldn’t do any worse than Mac. The only reason you’d be fired is if you made moves that were too smart for FO to comprehend, such as starting Reed in LF and Ibanez at DH.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am direct of media and tv graphics spellchecking.

Robert is color guy, Coach is special Friday home game 3rd color guy.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like Mark Teahen

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To hell with pbp, there are moving pictures

I think the public wants to hear two color guys talk about how gay the other one is.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can do this job

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if you eendevor to be more absurd

and create a “will they or wont they” dynamic with Angie Mentink.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first order of business is to replace Mentink with Nicole Z.

She needs to have more airtime.

Is that acceptable?

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be funnier with Mentink.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how well that'd go.

I’d probably call her a whore every other game.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as you did it in a fun way it may be endearing.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you'd have to have sex with her too

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...Erm.

Can she just give me oral sex underneath the camera shot?

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh

go all the way

You don’t have to sire any children if you don’t want to.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Reggie Willits?!

I feel disgusted to know I enjoyed a beer and a ballgame with Reggie Willits today. Fuck you. >:(

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly

I scored the highest on Jeff’s “White-off” a few months back

by Robert on Jun 4, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually 3rd

Only Thingray and Corco scored higher than me

by Robert on Jun 5, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally out-whited you by 5.

Is that good or bad?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would beat you, but I'm not sure older white women love me in the way

that chart implies.

Plus this isn’t fair, my name should at least be -20.

by JI on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might be able to force my way to 55 if I'm being overly generous....

I think I could beat you in a white contest no matter what the rules were.

I should be embarrassed about that.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the black dude

I saw last weekend at the Rush concert has both of us beat.

by JI on Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is an automatic win for him.

My Prussian Logic professor with a Dracula Accent went to that. Hilarious.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McLaren's tirade made ESPN

Came with some funny dialogue as they showed 2007 and 2008 stats (being down across the board).

ESPN Announcers:
“I picked them to win the AL West.”
“I though they would go to the Playoffs”
“Eric Bedard”
“Yep”

by ThundaPC on Jun 4, 2008 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope they play it later on Baseball Tonight

As much as I appreciated the optimism from the national media towards the M’s, I find it funny how foolish they look now.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners are getting OWNED on Baseball Tonight.

Buster Olney: “Something has to change!”

Steve Berthume: “This team is playing like they’re asleep!”

This is hilariously sad.

by ThundaPC on Jun 4, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed it.

Mac was pathetic in his “tirade.”

Also, Richie Sexson is gone within a week. Apparently Bavasi told all of the players to stay at their locker and answer the media’s question on why they suck. Sexson is the only one who didn’t follow orders.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bavasi wants them to tell the media why they suck

Because Bavasi doesn’t want to tell the media its his fault.

by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think we all understand this already.

I was just stating that Sexson will be gone in a week because of this incident.

Bavasi’s incompetence is a whole other issue.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Explain so I can understand what you are getting at.

“I don’ t think they have much leverage over him.”

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It the point where breating people is absolutely pointless.

I can see why he would say “to hell with this”

What’s the worst they can do?

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I see.

I can’t blame Sexson, either. But at the same time, that kind of attitude is telling of the overall clubhouse attitude. Nobody is willing to take accountability.

Have a good life, Sexson. You played a kid’s game for a career and earned more than enough money for you and your family to live comfortably for generations to come.

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy if they were asleep

because that means that someday they’ll wake up. As it is, I’m not so sure.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect...

...that it’s not the ownership group, but the stiffs (Ellis and Lincoln) that were installed as CEOs, who think they’ve learned enough baseball to play with the big boys.

I think things would be different if Chris Larson or John Stanton were CEO….

by rtang on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, there's the problem.

What makes you think that the ownership group is going to change who’s installed at CEO? Ownership likes Howie and Chuck where they are.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From past reports...

....I know Chris Larson had been unhappy on how the team was run.

And I doubt that ANY of the group is happy on how the team is going right now.

by rtang on Jun 4, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wowza

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_bba_fed_up_mariners.html

“Anybody that’s happy in our clubhouse, there’s something wrong with him. ... We bragged about how good we were. ... We need to pick it up now. I can’t make it any clearer than that.”

As McLaren spoke in his office, a handful of players were lounging on couches in the middle of the clubhouse enjoying the movie “Super Troopers,” a 2001 comedy about misfit prankster state troopers.

One player muttered under his breath: “What are we in, kindergarten?”

When asked late Tuesday night what needs to be done, Suzuki sounded defeated.

“I don’t think at this point it is even worth it to answer that question,” the $90 million outfielder and franchise cornerstone said through an interpreter.
—-—-——-

Good stuff.

by Slica on Jun 4, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny part of that article..

I was just reading it and above that “anybody that’s happy in our clubhouse, there’s something wrong with him.” is this gem of a quote from our solid ‘DH’

“I think he has every right to be like that,” designated hitter Jose Vidro said of McLaren. “But this ballclub, we’re not jogging out there. This team is playing hard. At the end of the day, I go home happy that I gave everything I’ve got. The guys are the same way, too. We play hard.”

Also was a fan of this little dandy:
“They may not know how to play the game well, they may not know how to hold each other accountable, they may not know how to fight hard,” he said. “But they are playing hard. They are trying hard.” – Bavasi. HAHAHHAA

by seattlesundevil on Jun 4, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can play hard!

Sign me to a 4 year/$48 million deal!

by Wilder. on Jun 4, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

That HAS to be a mockery of the players.

Good one Bavasi, you jerkface.

by marinator on Jun 5, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to bring up the whole clubhouse chemistry thing

but Jesus this is a group of players in total disarray.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is where chemistry starts to matter

because a team of guys has to be at least going through the motions of pulling in the same direction, and that concept’s about to asplode in Seattle.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Today it appears that the clubhouse has finally imploded.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

now ~ *not

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jeff defense:

“I read all of the other criticisms of you and just assume you mistype something every time you comment”

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 4, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where do I vote for Jeff/LFoJL

I’m assuming this ticket has a “No trading Jose Lopez” stance

by seattlebruin on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HIVE MIND!

We are one thought. One conscious. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Resistance is futile.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Unless it was Richie, Willie and Washburn.

by Fin on Jun 4, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone elsewhere mentioned one of them was Morrow I think

But I don’t think anybody really knows, and the media isn’t going to get specific otherwise they’ll get dirty looks and no good comments from here on out.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 5, 2008 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing strange about it

I am happy these things are finally starting to sink in for management. I think the pressure has finally gotten to all of them and they know the end is near.

by marinator on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lost in all of this

Chris Wilcox was arrested for having a gun or some shit.

by Slica on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You can get arrested for having shit?

Incontinent people around the country just re-crapped their pants.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

said the immediate fixes will have to come from within the organization, such as the imminent return of Jeff Clement.

Do. Want.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Clement back?

This roster move is Graham approved.

[Insert jpeg of Graham with thumbs up grinning like an idiot…god it would awesome to have a jpeg like that.]

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you settle for this?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Works for me.

Is that really Graham? If so I shall start the photoshopping.

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if that is truly Graham...Here we go!

First, “This Roster Move is Graham Approved”

Second, a generic “Graham Approved”

Finally, the obligatory…

by BrianL on Jun 4, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Graham = Andrew Friedman?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why you do not post a picture of yourself on the internet.

Whether you believe it or not, a lot of credibility is based on appearance.

I will refrain from any jokes, however. I will also forget this picture so Graham is not messed up in my mind.

by Wilder. on Jun 5, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, after me posting a shirtless picture on the interweb

I’m not sure any other author here can look too bad in comparison.

by Gomez on Jun 5, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not nearly as imposing in gif form

I expected someone more menacing.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too American

Graham should be wearing a crimson bracelet with the word “STAB” repeating around the circumference.

by Jeff on Jun 4, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm never sure wheter Graham is an American Englishman

or an Englishman that has embraced Seattle…

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a technical sense?

Born in England.
Graduated High School in Washington. Here he learned to be a masochist Mariner fan.
College in England.

So that’s what Graham is.

Oh and a halfie too.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn it what the hell I didn't even format that myself

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that case

it’s amazing he hasn’t quit the band and gone solo.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figures

Ford Prefect looking motherfucker

by Gomez on Jun 4, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That Graham is one hoppy frood

who really knows where his towel is.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 5, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would critize you

but I’m still riding the high from my tenure as an admin.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The "action" menu has a delete option and a hide option.

I couldn’t find the hidden thread in time. Had I been prepared I could have put something completely asinine on the front page, but I’d prefer my inbox to be not full of porn bots.

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LL is shitting itself all over my computer

I do have FF3, but good Jesus this is impossible to post

If this actually gets through, you should know that you knew I was talking about Livestrong you dirty Truth Rapist

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 4, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff has been known to get rapey from time to time...

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 4, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea why...

But I always pictured Graham as looking like a skinhead. Not of the white power ilk, of course, but the 70’s British, working class Fred Perry wearing shit-kicker types. As I said, I don’t know where this idea came from.

-aaron c.

by acblue on Jun 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, quote got cut off

the first word should be: [Bavasi}

by JI on Jun 4, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

This thread is one of the many reasons why I love this place…even in our franchise’s darkest hour we’re all joking like it aint no thang.

by Omerta on Jun 5, 2008 1:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Mariners have computers?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God motherfucking damn it.

Jesus Christ why take a fucking closer

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 5, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed

Search

User Tools

By reading a game thread of your own volition you agree to accept all liability for any and all damage done to your delicate sensibilities.
Start posting about the Mariners »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Max_small
FootbaLL IV (Nov 21st)

by JamMasterJesus 3 days ago

43 comments | 5 recs

Small
The Sabermetrics of Cats

by ARock 8 days ago

148 comments | 9 recs

Recent FanPosts

Laughing_man_elmex_small
AFL Championship game thread

by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth about 17 hours ago

39 comments | 0 recs

Smell-the-glove_small
OFFTOP 11/19 - The Hand of Fraud

by pdb 2 days ago

477 comments | 0 recs

Small
Tony Blengino interview on 710 AM ESPN Seattle's Hot Stove League

by ARock 3 days ago

15 comments | 0 recs

Ichirocameron_small
OTFPOTD 11/16: Recipes Edition

by Decatur 5 days ago

1082 comments | 0 recs

Small
Lookout Landing as a communtiy

by JetersNeverProsper 7 days ago

370 comments | 0 recs

Small
Royals determined to unload Callaspo...

by slamcactus 9 days ago

31 comments | 0 recs

Ichiro_small
Ackley and Triunfel on MLB TV right now

by Smegmalicious 14 days ago

102 comments | 0 recs

Small
Xbox LLive, Pt 3

by seattlebruin 15 days ago

1081 comments | 0 recs

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Recent Posts

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Photo link

Diamondbacks Acquire Pitcher Aaron Heilman

AZ Snakepit

San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum throws to the Arizona Diamondbacks during the first inning of a baseball game, Saturday, April 18, 2009, in San Francisco. (AP Photo/George Nikitin) +2 updates

Tim Lincecum Edges Carpenter, Wainwright To Win Second Straight NL Cy Young

Photo

Mike Scioscia, Jim Tracy Named Managers Of The Year

More from SBNation.com >

Sexy People

1_small Graham

Small Matthew

Small Jeff