21-37

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 12:15 AM PDT in Game Recaps

The 1995 Mariners overcame incredible odds to win the division and advance to the American League Championship. This team is not that team. Thankfully we only have to put up with another 104 of these games before we can officially call it an offseason. Strasburg, ho!

Biggest Contribution: Jose Lopez, +11.3%
Biggest Suckfest: Jarrod Washburn, -23.8%
Most Important AB: Lopez double, +10.8%
Most Important Pitch: Mathis homer, -18.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -12.4%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -37.6%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)

Posting should be back to normal again tomorrow. Great.

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I just want to say thats a quality power point graphic, it really makes the 21-37 seem exciting.

also go pens.

CUBS WIN CUBS WIN CUBS WIN

by GarlicFryCubFan on Jun 3, 2008 12:32 AM PDT 0 recs

Jarrod Washburn soaked in befuddlement

As seen in the Blog of Baker…

“It’s baffling,’’ Mariners starter Jarrod Washburn said after going 5 1/3 innings and taking the loss. “It’s hard to believe that our season has gone as badly as it has.’‘

Another two outs and one less run surrendered and he would have a “quality start” on his hands! Foiled again by the Joh.

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on Jun 3, 2008 1:23 AM PDT 0 recs

Actually no

I heard his postgame comments and he said some other interesting stuff. A “journalist” asked him if it was unrealistic to expect a pitcher to be perfect, and he said something like “when you’re a guy like Felix, you can afford to not be perfect because your stuff can get you by, but when you’re a pitcher like me, you can’t afford to make any mistakes.” He was muttering something about his fastball not being as fast as it used to be and that he never had a good curve ball.

Sounds like he’s starting to realize that he sucks.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 3, 2008 2:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

The "baffled" quote references the team, not his performance

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on Jun 3, 2008 3:22 AM PDT up 0 recs

Any chance we can swing a deal for Cha Seung Baek?

Shouldn’t take more than a shitty AA pitcher to land him.

by Teej on Jun 3, 2008 1:46 AM PDT 0 recs

Time to play "Who's that pitcher?"

“I did not have my best stuff tonight.”
“I just felt like I had no energy. Everything, [I had] no energy.”

“I feel like I’m throwing pretty good for the most part, but one or two key mistakes in each game comes back to bite me,”

by ThundaPC on Jun 3, 2008 3:01 AM PDT 0 recs

Btw

The top quote is Ervin Santana. The bottom is by Jarrod Washburn.

Yea.

by ThundaPC on Jun 3, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up 0 recs

Well I'm satisfactorily emabarrassed

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

Unlike the pedophile

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up 0 recs

Mariners are charting the same course with Sexson as they did with Boone

The performance and circumstances of both players are similar. With Boone, the Mariners pulled him from the lineup on June 18 for four games and worked with him on his hitting. They gave him two weeks after that to turn his season around, and then DFA’d him.

So at this point, I figure Sexson’s got about two weeks left with the club.

by Steve Nelson on Jun 3, 2008 6:27 AM PDT 0 recs

Yeah but the 05 Ms had Lopez waiting for that spot

What is Bavasi going to do after cutting Sexson? Call up Lahair? Haha….
Wait. No Bill! Bill, no! That was a joke! Bill!

Goddammit.

by Matthew on Jun 3, 2008 8:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

Useless 1B is useless

I don’t see the harm of seeing a Loyal Organizational Soldier getting some games in MLB once it’s been proven your season is officially a [COATHANGER], so long as it’s not going to stop you from upgrading 1B during the offseason.

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up 0 recs

They have a plan for 1B next year ...

All teams have roster plans that extend over the next several seasons. Those plans are provisional, but they’re in place. So the Mariners will likely go to whatever that plan is.

That’s exactly the same situation with Boone. The Mariners hadn’t planned for Lopez to be the 2b that season, but when they cut Boone loose, they went to the future plan. So if the Mariners dump Sexson, we’re likely to see what the future plan is, or the current lack of a plan. If the team is thinking about Raul at 1B in the future, they would likely make the move now. If they bring up Lahair then we know they probably don’t have an internal plan for filling 1B next season.

by Steve Nelson on Jun 3, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

Sexson's a FA, and there isn't really anyone in the system behind him.

This is why Miguel Cairo is playing 1B, remember?

Basically, you’re giving the M’s WAAAAAAAY too much credit for thinking in advance here. My guess is the current offseason plan is “sign another aging and lumbering brute for $Texas to be the next Mo Vaughn or Richie Sexson”. The M’s haven’t developed a player worth a crap at 1B since Tino Martinez nearly 20 years ago.

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

I'm pretty sure the Mariners don't actually try to fail.

by Matthew on Jun 3, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

But they're so talented at it!

Imagine how good they would be if they actually tried!

by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up 0 recs

Well, I think Bavasi thought Mo and Richie were flukes.

Hey, just because this didn’t work the last two times we tried it…

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

Steve phillips took Mo off his hands and gave him value in return

...you can always do worse.

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

At the gathering last year he thought Zito's bad season was a fluke

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Technically he was right

just not in the direction he probably meant.

by Matthew on Jun 3, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Weren't his core numbers ~the same as his last year in Oakland?

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Quite similar

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'm still at a loss as the why anyone thought that'd be a good idea.

I wasn’t as into in depth analysis as I am now, and I still thought he was a collaspe candidate because of all the walks.

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

But...the ERA...shiny...just like Washburn's...

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up 0 recs

You know how boring this game was?

It actually prompted me to watch more hockey than I ever had in my life

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 3, 2008 8:07 AM PDT 0 recs

I'm not seeing how that's a bad thing...

by ningwers on Jun 3, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

That game was spectacular

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, yes it was

I think I could be a hockey fan, except I don’t care about any particular team

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 3, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

I don't care about Detroit or Pittsburgh and I was still flipping out

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah I hate Pitt and Detroit is meh

But I was glued to the TV.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jun 3, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

but I was still goin nuts

Sportszilla, root for the Blackhawks. They are young and exciting.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jun 3, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

The 2008 season, in one picture.

104 more to go…

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 8:50 AM PDT 0 recs

I was thinking

We have gotten horrible production from DH this year. We have a LF who sucks at defense. We have two young OF who probably aren’t horrible. Corey Patterson just got sent to the minors. Is it really that hard to shift Ibanez to DH? I’m so confused.

With regards to 1B, they should have seen this coming…

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT 0 recs

Reed and Wlad lack Turbo's veteran grittiness.

by eponymous_coward on Jun 3, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up 0 recs

The Strasburg Seven

June 2nd

Team / W / L / PCT / GB
Colorado…..............20 38 .345
Seattle…..................21 37 .362 1.0
San Diego…...........23 36 .390 2.5
Kansas City…........23 34 .404 3.5
Washington…........24 34 .414 4.0
Detroit…..................24 33 .421 4.5
San Francisco…....25 33 .431 5.0

May 25th

Team / W / L / PCT / GB
Seattle……...........18 33 .353
San Diego…….....19 33 .365 0.5
San Francisco…..20 31 .392 2.0
Colorado…….......20 30 .400 2.5
Kansas City……..21 29 .420 3.5
Detroit……............21 29 .420 3.5
Washington……..22 29 .431 4.0

- We fell a bit to 2nd place but we’re still in good shape.
- Colorado definately wants in on Strasburg. They dropped 8 straight games since the last time I posted this.
- San Francisco lost an arseload of ground by not sucking enough. They’ll need to work on that.

by ThundaPC on Jun 3, 2008 9:03 AM PDT 0 recs

I 100% believe Rowland and Molina are this good.

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up 0 recs

Can we still mock the Giants?

The Platonic Idea of the Giants still sucks big time, even if its imperfect impression scored 10 runs last night.

by Paytheline on Jun 3, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up 0 recs

Somehow they are 6th/13th/11th in slash stats, but are 14th in runs scored.

They were dead to me once they sent Bocock down.

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

This is in protest of Raul actually making a difficult play:

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 9:27 AM PDT 0 recs

RRS

I am absolutely amazed that people aren’t swinging from the rafters demanding to make RRS replace Wash in the rotation. RRS clearly has enough stuff to get by in the rotation and brief 100%-effort appearances for Wash might make him mildly effective.

by batura on Jun 3, 2008 11:21 AM PDT 0 recs

I think we're beyond the point of really caring when the Mariners do something stupid

It’s generally understood that RRS would be the better pitcher. It’s also generally understood that it isn’t going to happen. So it’s generally understood that we might as well get used to it without getting too emotional.

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

Speaking of your new bf, Jeff

do you think he would be successful as a starter? Seems like he was okay in the minors as a starter, and I think he’s got the stuff to cut it in the bigs, too. Eh, I wouldn’t mind if he closed, either

by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

I think he could cut it as a #4 but I doubt he'd be anything special

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up 0 recs

The rotation should probably be:

Bedard
Felix
Silva
RRS
Morrow/Dickey split until Morrow builds up endurance.

by Matthew on Jun 3, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

I know it's been said before

but it can’t be said enough:

Batista/Washburn/Silva cost this team ~$100m.

Morrow/Dickey/RRS cost ~$1m and would be no worse.

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not that it's particulary important

but ~$113M

Silva 4/48
Washburn 4/40
Batista 3/25

Brandon Morrow – 2.5M signing bonus

by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Worse than orginally thought!

(Signing bonuses don’t count, IIRC)

by JI on Jun 3, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well, if you want to talk about total investment into a player, I would count the bonus for a player like Morrow

so he costs us (2.5M + $500k*2 years) = 3.5M/2 yr, ~4M/3 yr, etc.

by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Actual cost of Brandon Morrow:

Tim Lincecum.

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by Matthew on Jun 3, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

I feel stupid for not blasting them for this at the time

by Jeff on Jun 3, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Trust me

it doesn’t make you feel any better.

by marc w on Jun 3, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

Eh... with Lincecum's problems getting through lineups twice

and Morrow’s recent emergence as being completely unhittable over one inning outings, I don’t feel so bad.

OTOH, Lincecum is a genuine joy to watch pitch, and at this point is certainly ahead of Morrow of the development curve. I just think that Morrow still has a ton of potential if the Mariners ever let him start some fucking games.

by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up 0 recs