Our Best Shortstop?
This might sound crazy, especially given Derek's recent post at USS Mariner, but here goes anyways. Willie Bloomquist has been the best shortstop on the team so far in 2008.
OFFENSE: Yes, Willie has no power; none whatsoever. He has 20 hits on the year, all singles and a meager .626 OPS. Turns out that for now it doesn't really matter. Why? Because he has 13 walks in just 90 PA which is a higher pace than any Mariner hitter probably since Edgar in 2003. You can compare Yuni's slugging percentage (.401) to Willie's (.260) all you want, and it's a completely valid criticism, but I'm going to come back at you with .367 to .287. That's Willie's OBP compared to Yuni's. Walks matter! Yuni has four of them in 277 PA which is ONE TENTH the rate that Willie has so far in 2008.
Pick your stat. EQA? Willie's at .254 to Yuniesky Betancourt's .239. Runs Created? A lineup of Bloomquist's scores 4.0 runs a game while a lineup of Betancourt's scores just 3.4. Incidentally, the Mariner lineup in realtiy has scored just 4.01 runs per game. Getting on base in the single most important thing a hitter can do and Willie's nearly 30% better at it than Yuni. Is that sustainable? Probably not, though Willie's contact rate is up this year, but I find it interesting nonetheless.
DEFENSE: We've been harping on it for awhile now, but Yuni's defense has regressed worse than Miguel Batista's pitching. He stands near or at the bottom of shortstops at both making plays in zone and making plays out of zone. He's always had trouble with the routine but when he first came up in 2005 and in 2006 he would make up for that with terrific range, getting to and at least stopping balls that Derek Jeter doesn't even reach in his most frenzied ESPN-induced self-glory dreams. Those days are gone. Long gone.
Now, is Willie an upgrade? We cannot really know. Ironically since the team loves moving Willie around so much on the field, we have nothing even approaching an adequate sample size on his defense anywhere. And we cannot even take the fact that the team plays him at multiple positions to speculate that his defense is passable because this team intentionally started an outfield consisting of Ibanez-Ichiro-Morse earlier this year. However, it's a fair bet to say that Willie is at least not a butcher at short. You can usually visually spot those and since right now Yuni actually is a butcher and Willie's probably not...
OVERALL: It's also worth something that Willie's baserunning is better than Yuni's. Not worth much, but it's something. The rumblings have been that the team moved Ichiro to right field in order to open up a spot in center for Willie and Reed to play (why couldn't they just play in right?) primarily in order to showcase Willie for a trade. I hope it's true because getting anything in return for Willie would be high hilarity, but if you are trying to showcase him, would showcasing him at shortstop a few games a week help? Or would that damage Yuni's potential trade value more than it helps Willie's?
What could Yuni do to rectify his lowly performance thus far in 2008? In a word, bootcamp. When he does play I want him on the Loafie hitting plan where he's not allowed to swing until there's at least one strike on him. If he happens to not be playing that day, I'm having him skip all drills and just run foul poles over and over and over and over. And then over some more. He needs to do whatever possible to regain at least 2006-era range. We can use the second half of the season to see if he's going to be useful going forward. If so, great. If not, hope our new savvy GM come winter can lure some less wonderful GM into buying into the high average, defensive rep and team-friendly contract and make away with some players at other holes we need to fill and go free agent shortstop shopping.
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It would be hard to try to trade Yuni
after being benched for WFB.
by Edgar for Pres on
Jun 26, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
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He wouldn't be benched at the end of the season.
Other GMs would understand the desire to showcase Willie for a possible trade in July.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 10:36 AM PDT
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Poor Yuni
I hated running foul poles back in my baseball days.
Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!
by Fin on
Jun 26, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
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Hell hath frozen over.
The seas are boiling, the headless horsemen of the Apocalypse are circling around my office.
Oh Yuni, how the mighty have fallen.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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My God. It's scary to read this and know that it's true.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on
Jun 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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WFB: Matthew endoresed.
This season sucks.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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Yuni has been bad.
Therefore, Matthew argues that WFB should be starting over Yuni.
Ergo, there is no floor.
Q.E.D.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
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No
Bloomquist’s 2008 Marcel: .260/.320/.354
Betancourt’s 2008 Marcel: .288/.318/.418
The OBP difference is a small sample size fluke. There’s no reason – none – to believe that Bloomquist is suddenly a true talent 14.4% BB% guy.
Starting Bloomquist at shortstop because he’s got a higher OBP is based on the same logic as sending Clement back down because he struck out a lot in 50 at-bats. It’s dumb.
by davidcameron on
Jun 26, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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So what your saying is it's going to happen?
by SethGrandpa on
Jun 26, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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BLOG FIGHT!!!!
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on
Jun 26, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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CRIPPLE FIGHT
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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I honestly don't know.
If doing something like this makes Yuni hit the treadmill and drop the Vidro diet, I think I’d be for it.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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True there is a reason Willie gets an amazing amount of fastballs.
They want him to swing and miss…walks are pretty high for his lack of xbh’ing ability.
As the eight ball says: All signs point to fluke.
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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Mine says "all signs point to suck".
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on
Jun 26, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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He's not missing though,
at least this year. He’s making contact 90% of the time he swings. That’s Ichiro territory.
And again, because clearly I’m not emphasizing this strongly enough.
I am not claiming Bloomquist is now a true talent .360 OBP guy or a 90% contact rate guy. I am aware of the small sample size. I find it interesting that he’s been so much more valuable than Yuni thus far in 2008 and think its worth discussing whether it might be a real step forward for him.
I am not making any definitive statements about future performance.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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What the hell was that...It like auto-posted!
Anywho…I was going to say that it’s his contract year…he’s going big!!
And with all the fastballs he gets he will definitely find some contact. But with all those fastballs hit something harder damnit!
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
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Well, that was a weird formatting issue.
I did not mean for all that to be in bold. Screw you SBN 2.0 for eating my asterisks… etc etc
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
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If only you had the powers to fix this error...
Your= "belonging to you" You're= "You are" (like the song)
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
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If you had the powers you would be forced to edit every comment you make.
Because if you don’t utilize the powers you have to perfect your posts, then what is the point in having the power?
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
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So what? So he ends up sucking and helps us lose games?
What’s the downside here?
And for what it’s worth, up to the day Marcel projections for 2008 are actually
WFB – .256/.335/.311
Yuni – .277/.295/.400
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
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Are you sure?
Coming into this season, Bloomquist had 1090 PAs and Marcel had him at a .318 OBP. There’s no way 77 PA with a .367 OBP should raise his true talent level OBP up 17 points. No way.
by davidcameron on
Jun 26, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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Also, the downside
You nuke Yuni’s value in the process. We might know that his OBP is a problem and his defense doesn’t match his reputation, but do you think the Twins know that?
There are a good amount of teams out there that are going to read the scouting repots on Yuni’s defense (still positive), see the .290 batting average and the extra base hits, then see the 3 year, $9 million contract and decide that he’s an attractive player. The M’s shouldn’t do anything to lower Betancourt’s value.
by davidcameron on
Jun 26, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
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Would you pull a trigger on a trade then before you put WFB in?
Or do you sit on Yuni (assuming WFB takes some/alot of his playing time away)?
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
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Starting Willie at SS ~3 times a week
for 5 weeks is going to nuke Yuni’s trade value. Really?
And there’s no possible upside that the extra time spent running et al doesn’t make Yuni an improved player post ASB, raising his trade value?
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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Why can't he run before games..or after...why is him running and playing mutually exclusive?
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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I don't know.
But it seems to be because there’s no way you get that slow and fat unless you’re not running.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:00 AM PDT
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So I think we should keep playing him and running him in the morning like a race horse
Taking him out of the lineup to get in shape may send a bad message to other teams about his willingness to work hard.
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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Yes
If you’re the Twins, and you see that the worst team in baseball now thinks that Betancourt isn’t good enough to be a full time starter for them, you’re going to seriously re-evaluate your take on his abilities. It’s like telling every other team in baseball “he’s not as good as you think!”.
And, extra time spent running? Betancourt’s going to do sprints during the game? I don’t think so.
by davidcameron on
Jun 26, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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It's like super reverse genius trickery
Yeah, the other teams will think, “Ha! Those crazy Mariners want to get Bloomquist in the lineup so badly that they’re benching superstar Yuni! Let’s hurry up and fleece them now before some other club does!”
The genius is so subtle that to the casual eye it’s completely invisible.
by busplunger on
Jun 26, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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It's what Sal's marcel tool says
Granted, it only looks back to 2004.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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Oh you said true talent.
I didn’t grab that, I took his up to minute projection for 2008 (counting what’s already transpired).
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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While I agree with this
weighted wOBA (.1/.3/.5/.1, 2005-2008):
Willie: .285
Yuni: .306
That equates to a difference of ten offensive runs over a 600 PA season. Is Willie ten runs better than Yuni in the field?
by Jeff on
Jun 26, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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Yeah, I don't agree with any of this.
We don’t gain anything by benching Betancourt, It’d be resigning ourselves to sell low on him. There’s no way Boom-Boom can keep this up, David Eckstein sees more pitches than the average bear, and his walk rate isn’t particularly impressive—and he’s Mark McGwire compared to Ballgame. I’d be shocked Willie’s walk rate is anything more than a SSS fluke.
Your= "belonging to you" You're= "You are" (like the song)
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
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Benching Betancourt is not actually what I had in mind and upon re-reading this I see where that comes across.
And taking that and Dave’s valid criticism to heart, I’ve tried to edit it to better reflect what I was trying to get across originally.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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I wouldn't be upset with Willie getting more starts
as long as it’s not in CF.
But 1b (dear God I can’t believe I just advocated that), SS, LF go to town.
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by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:27 AM PDT
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Willie does actually represent an improvement at 1B, doesn't he?
I think I’m going to be sick.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
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I just puked in my mouth a little.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on
Jun 26, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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I wouldn't think so...some value comes from the power threat from the 1B position (well that is gone too with Richie)
Son of a bitch…WFB for 1st base!!
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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Part of me just died an awful, awful death.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 11:37 AM PDT
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Vidro has more power...saddddddddd
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:39 AM PDT
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Implied by advocation of starting at 1B.
Your= "belonging to you" You're= "You are" (like the song)
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
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Yeah
or Raul /Willie/ Richie carousel.
Your= "belonging to you" You're= "You are" (like the song)
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
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It would be a carousel of hilarity.
I’m down.
by BrianL on
Jun 26, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
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Might as well throw Vidro and Johjima in there as well.
More the merrier.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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Actually, Fuck Richie
I don’t care how bad LeHair is, it’s pointless to keep Sexson on the team at this juncture. maybe we’ll get luck and he’ll turn into Todd Benzinger or Greg Dobbs.
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by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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He could play more than one position.
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by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 11:59 AM PDT
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I've been thinking about this for a while but never had the balls to say anything
by Jeff on
Jun 26, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
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You are going to get the woman vote
Jeff: Vote for me, cause like you I have no balls!
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:56 AM PDT
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Please don't ban me....:(
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:56 AM PDT
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Wait for what? I'm not excited...if I had mod-powers I could delete my post
Just saying..
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
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It's much better to just say half-assed things and let Dave tell you when you're wrong
and then you can correct it and seem smarter.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 11:57 AM PDT
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You still raise an interesting point
a legitimate argument can be made that Willie Ballgame is Yuni’s equal, if not actually better.
by Jeff on
Jun 26, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
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So everyone's off the Teixeira bandwagon then?
Because, don’t look now, but his 2008 looks an awful lot like his 2006.
by davidcameron on
Jun 26, 2008 12:27 PM PDT
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I still want him,
but not at the price he’s going to command.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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And to be fair,
a lot of our hope for him was that he seemed like one of the least stupid signings Bavasi would consider. Now that Bavasi’s gone, that constraint is lifted.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
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at least temporarily
Give you're propers to the all time rec leader.
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
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Give me six months of hope.
I’m going to need it if they hire another tard because you know whoever the next hire is, he/she’ll get 3-5 years at least before they axe him/her
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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Not all GMs are stupid in the same way.
Take comfort.
Give you're propers to the all time rec leader.
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:46 PM PDT
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I'm so non-conformist that never was on the Teixeria bandwagon.
Your= "belonging to you" You're= "You are" (like the song)
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
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I only forgot one word.
Give you're propers to the all time rec leader.
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
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Based on what he did to us
I’m expecting him to get a 10/300 contact.
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by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
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This is why you are a poor leader.
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by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
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PENALTY BOX!
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by kentroyals5 on
Jun 26, 2008 12:03 PM PDT
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Jeff hurts this blog by not using the ban hammer more often
by johnbai on
Jun 26, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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He's banned LFoJL 4 times in the past 48 hours.
by Matthew on
Jun 26, 2008 2:36 PM PDT
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SBN needs a penalty box feature.
Give you're propers to the all time rec leader.
by JI on
Jun 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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I like this post
It’s out of the box. I’m tired of Yuni and his lack of walks, and his boneheaded defensive plays. I can’t tell that he got fatter, but I guess if everyone says it’s true, he must have gotten fatter.
Too bad real life can’t be like a video game where you can just trade Yuni and Washburn for Stephen Drew… (also on a similar note, I love playing against Vidro, and having the announcer call him a good hitter).
I will not let negativity bring me down.
"Do the right thing."
by LantermanC on
Jun 26, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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