Bill Bavasi Fired as GM
by Matthew on Jun 16, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
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PrintI figured changes were going to have to come after getting swept by the Nationals, but never did I think it would be Bavasi this soon. Is this good news for us? A lot depends on who the new hire eventually is, the search will "take place immediately" but we'll see if they're able to get much accomplished in-season if they want to bring in outside candidates.
It remains to be seen if Bavasi is just the latest and greatest (so far) scapegoat to this season or if there was actual fear that he might further jeopardize the future of the ballclub in order to try and save his job by dint of damaging trades come July. Bavasi did a decent job of trading when he was ditching veterans for prospects, but who knows.
One thing this does worry me is that firing a GM mid-season instead of waiting until after the season likely means the true heads of affiars, Lincoln and Armstrong, seem unlikely to go anywhere since they're likely the ones doing the hiring for the new GM and while it's rare enough for a team to fire it's General Manager mid-season, it is rarer still for a change to take place in team presidency mid-season.
Wait and see I suppose.
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I know it can get worse
But let us have one more dream, Matt.
Jesus.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 16, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
I remember running into Bavasi at Green Lake
and striking up a conversation with him. Really nice guy. He didn’t even mind my joke about dropping by an adult softball game to scout for new talent. It’s strange to see this finally happen, but it really needed to.
Bavasi is one of those people who it's extremely easy for him to be successful
regardless of his current job performance. At some point though, exceptionally poor job performance has to override being a good guy, and unfortunately, Bill reached that point about two years ago.
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
*Extremely easy to ROOT for him to be successful
wow that one missing word changed the whole complexion of that statement.
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
He deserved it. I am shocked the guy who gave Wash/Silva/Batista/Speizio and so on big contracts with some of the trades he has made has lasted this long.
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
Waaaaait a minute!
I agree with the fact that the Silva, Washburn, and Spezio deals were god awful, but we have to give Bavasi some credit for getting Batista. Obviously he’s sucking horribly this season, and he wasn’t exactly great last season, but I honestly think that Batista has had a great effect on Felix’s development. Cheesy as it sounds, thats WHY WE GOT BATISTA. So, he won 16 games (although that’s a total fluke) and has been a great influence on Felix. Pure luck on Bavasi’s part, but we shouldnt give him crap about that move. That’s what Vidro/Sexson are here for.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix has regressed as a pitcher.
If getting Batista was aimed toward making Felix better than that’s also a massive failure on Bavasi.
Are you referring to the fact that Felix throws too many fastballs?
I don’t follow.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Lost movement on his two seamer
Groundball rates down. Walk rate up. Strikeout rate lower. Slider abandoned.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 16, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to reference ERA, but.... (I am a bad person)
Why the decline in ERA then? I’ve read Dave’s article about evaluation pitcher talent, so I understand ERA is a bad measure of that. Has his LOB% gone up? That’s a good skill to have.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, good point.
Just trying to give Bavasi and Miguel some credit…..where they evidently don’t deserve any…
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
How this comment would read on USSM (and here if admins could edit comments)
Not to reference ERA, but [referencing ERA is stupid].
Thanks......
That’s why I am posting here, and not at USS mariner. Stupidity is punished less here.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh.... I think he's saying it's punished less here because the admins have less power
and can’t punish it
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I get it, I get it.
Never again will I reference ERA.
Or WHIP for that matter.
Lesson learned.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's OK to reference it, because they're not entirely worthless
just don’t try to judge a pitcher on them =)
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh good.
So I can still like Jorge Campillo and his 2.17 ERA?
Its sooo low!
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What's worse, a comment deletion or being mocked unceasingly?
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Negative recs is worse than either
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But only you have that talent.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say the latter.
Hey guize lookit this guy’s stats! He has a ZERO ERA in 2 INNINGS!
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Graham doesn't fuck around
You’re shitty comments will be disposed of so quickly it will be as if they never existed…Unless you are being a total douche.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Has that worked yet?
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally I don't think ERA is retarded to reference.
Obviously it’s not the best reference, but we can infer that if one pitcher on the Mariners has a 2.5 ERA average (without much variation) for 3 years, and one has a 4.5 for the last 3 years, the 2.5 is much better without question.
Now if you’re basing it from different teams (defense, park, league), it gets fudgy, but I’d still have to say a 2.5 era guy is better than a 4.5 era guy (unless it’s like Florida (can’t think of a pitching nl park with great defense right now) 2.5 era and Texas 4.5, the 4.5 guy could be better, but I’ll still argue that in general, it’s a ok guideline/reference point.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Yes, that's what Graham is here for.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
One of these days he'll slip up and say something stupid
And we’ll all pounce
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone told me he drunk posted once.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He was still smarter than everyone except maybe Matthew by a long shot.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear god that's amazing
I respect Graham a whole lot more now.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder he did not mock my post.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This really is an LL requirement, isn't it?
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We weren't kidding on that whiskey night..
by seattlesundevil on Jun 16, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering I got crap for posting I thought maybe you were.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I sure hope so.
I’ve never seen it.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you.
This has to be one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Updateeeeeee
and NOLAmarinergirl, read “Thread from another universe.”
Best thread in LL history
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That one I was there for.
I watched it go by with my mouth hanging open.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think I can start on this.
I have to keep the office door open and people might wonder if I collapse into hysterics.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Fantastic.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how one of his comments has 11 recs
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how that comment contains the word ahadfhjkh.
Or perhaps that’s a phrase.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
We strike back tonight.
Although the numbers won’t be on our side.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe you should invade while your troops are still awake.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of them aren't ready for battle.
Only a handful.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Telling us when you're going to attack seems like a poor idea
...or does it?
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Gives us time to drink more in preparation.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a ploy by our Rays overlords to strike fear into our hearts before attacking
so they can win despite underwhelming numbers
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
We shall ride furries into battle.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Giggle while they gnaw on Coach's legs.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
We've got an army of ponies.
Or perhaps poines.
We might unleash the NSFW ones.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Only BrianL is terrified of furries
the rest of us shall destroy you in the aftermath of the glorious Bavasi firing!
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
We will also use the Fiddle Cat as a celebratory tool.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Fiddler Cat made it's debut on DRB
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We traded the "Percy in , Game Over!" jpeg
to DRaysBay for Fiddle Cat and we have never looked back.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to think
You dealt the furry .gifs and stoned Raymond for the cat.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
While this may be factually true
I get sole credit, if it’s “Percy In, Game Over!”
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
True
Jeff providing stoned Raymond only hurts your campaign.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I also told you we have few men.
No smart general does that.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You should bring the guy who thinks Griffey is awweseom
so we can rip him to ribbons.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If this were anyone but JI, I'd think it was a drunk post...
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Or he might be referring to his DRB counterpart
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Lazy troops?
We can let you borrow Coach to whip them into shape.
We have our own verison of Coach
Who thinks it’s possible for hitters to save power.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
underrated comment:
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read.by JI on Jun 9, 2008 8:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We stole your Coach .gifs
For later in that thread.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
His reading comprehension explanation is priceless.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything he posts is epic.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That's classic.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen the price of power these days?
I heard they’re working on hybrid players
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh?
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He's like the kid that runs away from home
Goes 5 blocks, sits on the corner for 30 minutes and heads home like nothing happened.
While listening to Linkin Park on his iPod
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We really need to get this right side of the screen thing fixed
Half of our subthreads are unreadable
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Make shorter posts.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of fugitive LLers
Edgar for Mayor is now posting on USSM. And….. AK1984 is posting on Geoff’s blog!
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, did Edgar for Mayor actually get banned?
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah he did
Graham laid the banhammer down hard.
I thought I was pretty reasonable about the whole thing
Oh well
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were
It wasn’t the first time he’d been a prick about being moderated a little bit.
I'm in support.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Find Skoorbo and F'nA's and then I'll be happy
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
God damn it
SBN coding ate my title. I merely professed my love for those two morons/trolls.
the other angels fan
Yes, I liked that one too.
I wondered why not sitting in a chair was such a huge issue for him.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This one is good:
if you had to
put bloomquist at SS
the Mariners team plane better have crashed into the tacoma rainiers bus. Otherwise there exists no reason t put bomm boom our there.by Matthew on Apr 8, 2006 7:22 PM PDT actions actions 1 recs
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
What I enjoy is that the posts are from two years ago.
Yet the same comments are still being made.
“Bavasi is not that bad”
“He has been horrible”
And so on, and so on.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
sure, i was expecting that
but give me an example where there are two pitchers on the same team… and one has a better era by 1.00 every year (for 3 years), but is actually pitching worse
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
It's not completely stupid
but there are much better ways… so why be willfully ignorant?
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
that was supposed to be followed by a
“and I’ll give you 10 examples where it is true”
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Dontrelle Willis and every other Marlin pitcher ever
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Livan Hernandez over the past several years
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He could have been a Mariner.
Would that have been a train wreck? Bless the Twins.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Livan Hernandez was by some distance the worst pitcher in baseball last year
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn.
We could have saved 40 million dollars and a few runs.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Livan won't save you runs
Sliva = bland, but ok. Needs good defense behind him.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Not saying much, but yes he is.
The M’s seem to like to get rid of Campillo/Baek kind of guys.
They never turn into stars after they leave, but they always have at least some success with their new team.
I like midgets more than I should.
his 4.93 era reflects that
as does his 200 innings worth of that suckiness.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
No it doesn't
His ERA should have been closer to 6.5
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
didn't say it was exact
Just said it was good enough of a measure. 4.93, pretty sucky. 6.5, big time sucky.
2.5 era big time pitcher, really should be 3.3, pretty damn good pitcher still
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
So then
Was Weaver’s ERA accurate in 07, as to what it should have been?
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I was gonna say...
So he wasn’t historically the worst pitcher ever… he’s just in actuality a pitcher you’d never want on your team…
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Really?
How would that benefit us? He’s not very cost-effective.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd have come on an absurdly cheap deal and been a fine #5
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang, you're right.
I’‘d take him over the entire back end of our rotation
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Would he have been that absurdly cheap
How come no one has signed him? Is it because his demands are too high?
I suppose 1 year at 4 million of Weaver is infinitely better than 4 years 48 million of silva.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Oddly, I saw Jeff Weaver pitch twice.
Both times, he four-hit the opposition.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He was actually released a few days ago, I believe.
They had to either let him go or call him up, according to his contract.
Jeff Weaver: the Mariners' savior
that felt excruciatingly weird to type.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he's good or anything
But on like a 2/$4M contract I’d take him over Silva so fast your head would spin
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
but I notice he went to the allstar game
last year as well… THAT is hilarious
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Holy jesus Livan pitches a bunch
I knew he had a buttload of innings, but… consecutively
234, 200, 240, 227. 216. 233. 255, 246.216. 204. Unless he missed an entire season , too lazy to look.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
none of those guys
except Dontrelle was good for 3 seasons…
Burnett (not named)
was only good for half a season…
injuries don’t count as a reason of why someone is worse also…
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Even though his ERA was lower than expected
He was a pretty good pitcher his first three years.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
probably just in general
that he’s worse now than he was before. LD% up, bb’s up or the same, k’s down. He also seems to be a bit of a whiner/problem child) to me… but that’s just me. (Triunfel too apparently)
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
Your last name isn't by chance Hermes is it?
I knew a Taylor Hermes, biggest pothead ever. Grew shrooms in his room, and hung out with a bunch of hippies. Really talented runner though.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
I'm happy this happened
but I’ll hold off the real celebration until they hire Antonetti/DePodesta/someone of that ilk.
I am still deciding how to interpret this comment.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Read: It is my birthday and the firing of Bavasi is an awesome present.
Now we should go hire Kim Ng. Because there’s no way we go get Depodesta.
DePo might not want to be in Billy's division anyway.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
If we get Paul DePodesta
I will buy you a birthday present. And I dont even know who you are.
by .Taylor on Jun 16, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If you haven't politely asked him to interview here
you’re doing it wrong.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
On the flip side, if we get Steve Phillips
I will mail you a turd sandwich. And I don’t even know who you are
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope they post the job on the website somewhere
like Duke and Michigan did for their football head coaching jobs. I applied for the UMich one. Needless to say, I didn;t get it.
They're just racist
When’s the last time you’ve seen an Asian football coach?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
At my alma mater where we just hired Norm Chow to run the offense =)
although I think you were going for head coach…
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
MANGINO HUNGRY
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 16, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Hawaii
posted their Head Coach job online as well.
I have the wrong degree to be a college head coach. Despite all my years of play call training.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
So...you think Fontaine knew this weekend was a kind of swan song?
I mean, he may not be officially gone, but he’s gotta be gone, right?
That would make an event like this weekend’s a bit odd, but I guess he could really speak his mind.
Ugh?
Fontaine was awesome.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Still is.
I like midgets more than I should.
Ineed.
I was just referring to his talk at the meetup.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed the meetup.
:( (I’m a sad panda)
I like midgets more than I should.
Me too.
Spent the weekend in Vegas at a poker tournament. Good weekend to not pay attention to Mariner baseball, too.
by eponymous_coward on Jun 16, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This is like the 4th or 5th year in a row
where these things are scheduled on weekends I’m out of town.
I’m not one for paranoia, but I think I see a pattern emerging.
Graduation parties for my "step"son and my niece, + fathers day means no LL meeting for Thingray.
I like midgets more than I should.
Couldn't quite figure out how to put it succinctly.
It’s my GF’s son, but her and I have been together for so long, even he says I’m “pretty much his stepdad”.
I like midgets more than I should.
I'm busy but don't feel like working, does that count?
I like midgets more than I should.
Close enough
I don’t have anything to do organically, while you don’t have anything to do by force of will
The force is strong in me.
I like midgets more than I should.
You could just say GF's son
or lie to us and say stepson. How would we ever find out?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
GF's son didn't seem strong enough, and I don't like lying about stuff like that.
I figure after watching him grow up since he was five, he deserved some sort of title, even if I haven’t put a ring on his Mom’s finger yet.
I like midgets more than I should.
I know what you mean though. I have a "cousin" who has basically been adopted into my family
I usually just refer to him as cousin though; I’m not one to explain things
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 16, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Boo answer!
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
No stone will be unturned
Our next GM will be the biggest crab we can find.
Share please...
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically:
Q: “Hey, the Rays are awesome and have no payroll! We’re terrible and have a giant payroll! WTF?”
A: “The Rays had to suck forever to become good. They’re dumb. Winning is contagious, etc.”
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone should have mentioned an ownership change :>
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 16, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, because Bill Bavasi directly caused those things
Listing career numbers for those first three guys would be more telling.
YOU ARE COMPLETE NONSENSE YOU SMUG DOUCHENOZZLE!!!
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by Aaron Campeau on Jun 16, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We should dig up the corpse of Ty Cobb
And get mad at him for not playing up to his historical averages.
Well this is one of the better things to see coming back from class..Just a few question though
How long till we see player movemenet and more importantly why did we not do this earlier before we let Bavasi draft?
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by Shrug on Jun 16, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That Rays question was pretty awesome
Too bad he spun it away with that bullshit answer.
We should wait till the offseason so we can interview people from other organizations.
I’m sure all Pelekoudas will be asked to do is dump salary regardless of the return so it won’t be too bad.
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by BrettJMiller on Jun 16, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Any return is good return for Sexson, Wash, ect.
Shave and a haircut two ti- hey hold on.
by PhilKenSebben on Jun 16, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm afraid that we'll be trading low on a lot of players.
The players that we want to get rid of have zero trade value anyway.
Jesus Christ
I leave for a recording gig and by the time I get home, the FO has crucified Bavasi. Does this kind of thing happen to every team the Nationals sweep?
See, this is why you should never go to work and just hang out on LL all day
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Or work the boring desk job like the rest of us, and just hang out on LL all day.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey just out of curiosity, does NOLA stand for New Orleans, Louisiana?
If so you get a ton of cool points from me.
Oh my my.
Behind on that one, eh?
Yep, it’s New Orleans.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the Hornets, but football isn't my thing.
I’m also not a native Orleanian, just a displaced Oregonian with Washingtonian tendencies.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It's in my blood now, too.
My teeth chatter when I leave the state, and I look down my nose in disdain at all food served to me.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you move to New Orleans before or after God tried to kill it?
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
After God smote the baddies.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
God didn't try to destroy New Orleans
A corrupt political structure of good old boys and plain old fashioned human failure however did.
They needed God to swing the hammer. They just weakened the shield.
Either way, it’s God doing the killing.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
According to Jerry Faldwell anyway.
I ZOMG’d myself. No need.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
football?... that's like having a fling once a week...
...baseball is a relationship.
by oc on Jun 16, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
A heartwrenchingly painful relationship that you can't extricate yourself from, yes.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 17, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Typically I do work a desk job
but I took the day off to do another recording session that pays more.
Planned that day poorly.
Yes, I'm a girl. Yes, I know baseball. Yes, I even drink beer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I like money.
They paid me $400 for a 2 hour gig.
For a five hour gig, Richie Sexson makes $86,419.75
by seattlebruin on Jun 16, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's impressive math.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jun 16, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bavasi can trade veterans?
“Bavasi did a decent job of trading when he was ditching veterans for prospects, but who knows.”
Two words. Carlos. Guillen.
Thoan
Trading Guillen wasn't his idea
What he got in return, however, was…
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Jun 16, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen wasn't Bavasi's fault.
That was in place long before he showed up.
Not entirely true
He was essentially told to move him for whatever, but the trade was his.
by Graham MacAree on Jun 16, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
But if everyone knew he had to move Guillen, Bavasi wouldn't have had any leverage.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
As much as I hated it at the time
Vizquel would have been an acceptable return under the circumstances.
by JI on Jun 16, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
How the hell is Vizquel still a decent defensive shortstop?
It’s mind boggling.
Guillen wasn't worth anything when he was traded
except to those who could tell he was developing as a hitter and could predict that he was going to stop getting injured all the time.
Or those with a reasonable grasp of park effects
by Graham MacAree on Jun 17, 2008 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Or on base percentage
or aging curves
or simple baseball economics
"Jeff Clement has a slow bat." -Jeff Sullivan
by JI on Jun 17, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know where I can watch or listen to the press announcement?
I had to be at work all day.
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