Joe Posnanski Is The Greatest Sportswriter On The Planet
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 10, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
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Great article
though he makes it sound like Griffey’s career is over.
Feel free to make a snarky comment about his career being over
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 10, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
You think we'd only give him a one year contract?
We’re not savages
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 10, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Barring some unforseen turnaround
I’d like to see Griffey retire at the end of this season. I really don’t think he’d want to be a backup, or would want to bounce around from team to team looking for a starting job. I don’t see how any contending team would have any interest in him being a regular.
My hope is that we trade someone we won’t miss to the Reds, Junior can have a three month victory lap, and we can feel a little less crappy about this season.
Junior won't approve a trade here
At least that’s what Jason Stark says
"Dragons" are actually dinosaurs hunted to extinction by man in the Middle Ages. Check your Chinese calendars people.
by Frosty Raptor on Jun 10, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Jason Stark isn't even worth thinking about.
Other ESPN lackeys have reported that he will approve a trade. So who cares about it until it happens?
That was before the M's slide though
Crasnick was pretty doubtful in one of his chats. I don’t think Griffey wants in on this clusterfrak.
"Dragons" are actually dinosaurs hunted to extinction by man in the Middle Ages. Check your Chinese calendars people.
by Frosty Raptor on Jun 10, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Both are old veterans without a high ceiling
Trade Geoff Baker straight up for him.
Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage on Friday nights!
I dunno...
Last few weeks I’ve been pretty impressed with Baker’s performance at the keyboard. I think it might be a mistake to deal him.
He isn't that young, he has some veteran grit.
Didn’t he cover the Canada Blue Jays for like 10 years or something of that sort before coming to the Mariners?
Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage on Friday nights!
Posnanski's been one of the best baseball writers around for quite a while now.
This is but another data point.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Juniors 398th and final home run in his first go-round with the M's landed about thirty feet from me
beyond the centerfield fence at Safeco, in that area right next to the patio. It was the end of the season, and some guy jumped the fence to retrieve the ball and promptly got himself kicked out of the stadium, maybe arrested. If he got to keep the ball, it was all worth it.
Yep, that's Junior
Shame he didn’t have more motivation because he had all the talent in the world. There’s not a doubt in my mind that if you combined Ichiro’s dedication with Griffey’s talent you’d have the best player of all time.
by Matthew on Jun 10, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mind Boggling to even think of that, really
Wow…
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Jun 10, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
And a better Kingdome/Cinergy Field playing surface
His knees probably don’t turn to pudding playing home games on natural grass or Fieldturf, and his incredible numbers are probably even more incredible.
His knees weren't the issue.
It was more his leg muscles, which my guess would be related to his reputation for not taking things like pre-game stretching seriously. Hence my Ichiro comment.
Not his knees, yeah
but turf isn’t kind to your legs and joints as a whole. With the extra stress of the hard surface, anything could give.
You have summed up everything that was both
Beautiful and frustrating about watching Junior play. In terms of natural ability I do not know if I will ever see a young talent like him again.
I miss Junior
Even if Griffey does come back I can’t lie to myself, I’ll be happy. To see him hit 2 more HR’s in a mariners uniform, would be just amazing.
by Edgar for Mayor on Jun 10, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
Beaut of an article.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
That is such a perfectly delivered article
I almost feel bad pointing out the typo in Buck’s quote at the end, “Well, I sure like that Ken Girffey Jr” and being tempted to ask, “What does Ken Giraffey Jr has to do with this? Has Buck even been stringkkaked by Harry Canary?”
Round up Johnny Chimpo, Jerry Giraffe, and Arty the Alligator.
Bring ‘em in for a lineup.
One of the comments
on that page about retaining Griffey, Randy and A-Rod reminded me that one of my co-workers asked me about analyzing the scenario where those three had been retained up through now and what the win differential might be.
Of course it is impossible to weigh in all the factors that would change in those scenarios, but has anyone tried something like this to see what the difference would be year by year over the past decade? I would give it a go, but I don’t have all the tools at my disposal that some of you have.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Wouldn't have happened
A-Rod was a goner because no man turns down $250 million, Griffey really wanted to move back to Cincy… and not sure Unit, who already wasn’t happy at the time he was dealt, would’ve stayed.
That was just a dumb trade
Adam Jones didn’t hit free agency and get a $250 million offer. Or hit free agency and strongly desire to move back to his hometown.
Agreed
But with our brilliant management, his staying here had no shot in hell of happening. Different factors, same result.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Maybe he will come back to the Mariners when he is 35 and on the decline of his career
That probably would be his best chance of getting playing time with this team.
Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage on Friday nights!
Who hit free agency and strongly desired to move back to his home town?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 10, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I assumed he was referring to Griffey, at which point I was calling him out for inferring that Griffey went back to Cincy without being traded.
Even if it was unintentional
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 10, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Would anyone offer Sexson more money?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 10, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I will not kill this meme
I will not kill this meme
I will not kill this meme
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but I bet he would have accepted a smaller deal to paly in front of his adoring hometown fans for four years
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And by "adoring" you mean "booing".
I like midgets more than I should.
I also meant "raining well-deserved hatred upon a man with a lower batting average than his weight"
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He should go on a diet.
I like midgets more than I should.
But then he'll need to lower his average to keep it below his weight
it’s a Strasburg Christmas Miracle!
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Works for me.
I like midgets more than I should.
Because Junior was larger than life
quite like the Backstreet Boys
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Your "man card" has been suspended.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on Jun 10, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was really hot today in San Diego. It must have been 98 Degrees outside.
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Heat is no excuse.
Men can take the heat.
I like midgets more than I should.
True, its a huge difference from Boys II Men
I fucking hate you Mariners
So hot, there were Beatles coming out of all the sewers...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Jun 10, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to need backup for all these "man card" violations.
I like midgets more than I should.
Vote JI/Robert
but Robert’s kind of a gay for “Felix” so I’m not sure if that’ll help you
by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He is "King", so that might be excusable.
I’ll have to check with the courts.
I like midgets more than I should.
Only d-bags have them.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 10, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Double-Exposure...
Junior at bat, Junior fielding the ball in CF. I did this long before I knew about Photoshop—I don’t think Photoshop was even really available to the general public when I made this shot…
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Jun 10, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Junior
Is the reason I ever became a Mariners fan. I loved him forever as a kid. If only I had caught on a little sooner that I shouldn’t have stuck with the team
by mariners124m on Jun 10, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
The Kid
He’s the reason I love baseball. He’s the reason I played baseball. I felt like I owed the guy after I quit. If I could say anything to him as Mariner’s fan, I’d tell him that I cried when he left he was traded to the Reds, I cried myself to sleep.
Griff
He was the best. I bet even he agrees with Matthew and looks back at what could have been. Thanks for posting this Jeff.
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