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6/1: Open Game Thread

Detroit Tigers @ Seattle Mariners





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Miguel Batista 3-6 12 11 0 0 1 0 55.2 70 40 37 5 34 37 5.98 1.87


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jeremy Bonderman 3-4 11 11 0 0 0 0 64.1 63 36 31 8 36 39 4.34 1.54


Between 2003 and 2007, Bonderman was a textbook example of a huge idiot, routinely running ERAs higher than his solid peripherals because he just didn't understand certain parts of his job. Now he actually sucks and yet he's posting the second-best ERA of his career. The lesson here is that people don't make their own luck. Luck does whatever the hell it wants to whomever the hell it wants, and none of us humans have a say. Get used to it. It can be both a wonderful gift and a wonderful excuse.

You know who could use some good luck? Miguel Batista. Because Miguel Batista is bad.

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Carlos Guillen is starting in LF?

Wow, he may actually have less range than Raul. Pull the goddamn ball!

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes he is.

Do not get confused by hits and runs allowed.

Also, Jay Bruce is pretty good.

by Matthew on Jun 1, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant just for this start

3 Ks in 5.2 innings and it looks like a bunch of the hits he gave up were line drives

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jun 1, 2008 12:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

Alright sorry for jumping on you.

by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:palm-face:

Someone say something witty.

by Omerta on Jun 1, 2008 12:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was just a question

In a not yet-lively Game thread, I wanted to know who else here likes Morrissey because I’m listening to a really really good song by him.

by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cairo at 1B again

This is getting excruciating.

by Alex B on Jun 1, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McLaren's decision boils down to...

A tall guy who strikes out a lot, is a stump at first base, and gets booed…

A short guy who can run but can’t put the ball in play…

Or WFB. It’s not easy being squinty.

Jason Ellison, your Seattle Mariners legacy will not be forgotten.

by GoodKeith on Jun 1, 2008 12:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd appreciate to not be compared to Coach.

by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, I don't mind Cairo.

I think he does take a little more heat than he deserves. I explained myself yesterday I think.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cairo is not good.

He should not be on an ML roster. End of story.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 12:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To each his own.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This needs to be shared

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YQjlcCnIEwg

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 1, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

It was great.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was all this great lo-fi music

I mean, the typical indie film score. But it was really really nice.

If you listen to Daniel Johnston at all, it was something like a little higher quality stuff by him.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you seen Old Joy?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a pretty weird but nice film

All filmed in Portland and area. They’re these two guys on this road trip to like a hot springs. Stars Will Oldham (Bonnie Prince Billy) himself.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess I'm the only Indie person here

But that’s okay.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most Indie music is the same as modern pop/rock crap.

The same old chord progressions, the same tired lyrics, the same used themes.

Only difference is the mainstream musicians make money off that crap.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 12:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indie rock and Punk rock are different.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but you cited all the ingredients of Punk rock.

While speaking of the banner of Indie rock.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TAKE IT BACK.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying to fucking prove you wrong here

But fucking Youtube won’t fucking connect!

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This isn't over.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This crap is no different than mainstream garbage.

I’ve got a dozen Billy Joel albums I’d rather listen to.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 1:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you actually remember the soundtrack?

Or are you just saying that because you think I’m dumb.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said I THINK THAT'S DUMB

Not “I think you’re dumb”.

Yes I remember that soundtrack and I do not find anything particularly special about it.

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 12:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay thank you

I guess it was just my taste then…

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was shying away from the possibility of rickroll

So I waited for someone to reply. I’ve seen all those cartoon character Get Lows. Fun shit.

Have you seen Spongebob +Soulja Boy?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't.

I did see the Teletubbies one, but I can’t recall what song.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 1, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Spongebob one's pretty badly done

I mean it’s basically spongebob clips where his lips move in the ballpark of what the song is saying.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's still funny.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trent Razor put it best in "Head like a Hole"

“i’d rather die, then watch a mariners game”

by Sylar on Jun 1, 2008 12:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought that was Buzzie Bavasi.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 12:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh thank God the game...

Someone say something witty.

by Omerta on Jun 1, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God doesn't want to be responsible for this game

Carlos Guillen in LF, Cairo at 1B, Batista starting…. leave God out of it.

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ummmm

Is Youtube down?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kinda slow

been happening a lot recently.

Someone say something witty.

by Omerta on Jun 1, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mine won't load at all

I would say it’s my connection, but I can load other pages and talk on here simultaneously.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Government finally shut it down

That’s what people get for posting 2 girls 1 cup over and over

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it a shock that I've never actually seen that?

Yet I still crack jokes about it to friends in science class?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We just had to do a project last class

Where we had me, and two other girls at my table like float a balloon over whatever on a string, and there was a cup beneath it. Was supposed to exemplify Newton’s third law of motion or something.

Thus, the two girls one cup joke.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That stadium is surprisingly full today

Is it actually rising…?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's little league day or something

A bunch of half pint annoying kids in the stands today. Glad I’m not there.

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah alright, thanks marinator.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope I'm not alone when I say

Miguel Batista’s pants make him look seriously dorky.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitch slower

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Jun 1, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeremy Reed = Fan Favorite!

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RAUL FOR RF!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Jun 1, 2008 1:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tits is hurt

Time to stretch out Morrow!

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something wrong with Batista

Wondering when Johjima is going to get his iced tea.

by JLC on Jun 1, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hay is is Mallio Odones.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New one

Hay is is Baylua Teets.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bonderman sucks these days

Therefore I predict a 3 hit shutout!

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet you guys wish

You had the walk off HR power like we do.

RAYS WIN!

by Sylar on Jun 1, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have Cairo

we just have been dominating teams the last few games so we don’t have to do that stuff

by Tony S on Jun 1, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We do wish, do want, can't have.

Not since 2006.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loafie with the plate discipline.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was not quite a gapper, Dave.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K I'm gonna brb I didn't have breakfast.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about dessert?

Are you going to brb to eat that too?

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jun 1, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

Not until like 3.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now we can both be here.

Niiiiice.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Goddammit Coach/Butthol.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did we do?

Seriously. We just wanna be accepted here. Because you guys are older and cooler than us.

I'd appreciate to not be compared to Coach.

by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We like good music and shows

Did you see my Festivus comment earlier?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh.

You’re ugly BrianL/everybody else.

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jun 1, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*You're ugly, Brian L/everyone else.

Right Coach?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Announcers are getting..

‘sugared up’ over these youngsters in the crowd.

by seamariners85 on Jun 1, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ICHIRO.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just realized

No ball hit to right center, in this game, will EVER drop.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So any idea of when this team might actually be worth watching?

Not like I’ll be able to drag myself away or anything. But it is a lot more exciting when theres something to play for. ((Nice catch by Ichiro!)

by seamariners85 on Jun 1, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends on your definition of

“worth watching.” Under my definition, which is basically not being one of the worst teams in baseball…potentially as soon as next year.

by Omerta on Jun 1, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just an illusion.

All we need in the field are some gloves on a stick and we’re fine.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I ehat this commercial.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry I'm still making it.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Ironically enough, Coach was right. I’m having a milkshake too.

I'd appreciate to not be compared to Coach.

by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ramen still on the boil.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

Raul has been bad.

by BrianL on Jun 1, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But a terrible May for Raul

Means an incredible June. And a subsequent terrible July. And so on.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BELTRE IS THE SHIT

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 1, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SWUNG ON AND BELTRED!

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Late.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

I need to stop trusting that mine showed up first everywhere else.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SO NOT CLUTCH.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cairo!

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like wasn't the word, sorry

Put up with and not criticize. I think he does his job.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He didn't fucking do anything

Stop posting every 20 seconds when something pops into your head. It’s getting pretty annoying.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 1, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woah, sorry dude

I didn’t know.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All you need to do is ask me.

Trust me, I know these guys better than I know myself.

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Jun 1, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes ask Coach

That will solve your problems

by marinator on Jun 1, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I think him and I are too much alike

So I’ll contradict my sig.

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are too much alike

Stop posting so much unless you have something worthwhile to contribute

by OlSalty on Jun 1, 2008 1:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ask you?

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by qrsouther on Jun 1, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs