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Tiny by Jeff on in Game Recaps Comment 126 comments

I was able to catch most of the game, but I'm home entirely too late to write about it, so I'll just leave it at this: no matter what the situation, beating the Red Sox is always one of the greatest feelings in the world.

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Biggest Contribution: Jose Lopez, +41.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Adrian Beltre, -11.3%
Most Important AB: Lopez single, +36.9%
Most Important Pitch: Ramirez homer, -29.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +31.1%
Total Contribution by Hitters: +13.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +5.2%
(What is this chart?)

We were watching two screens tonight, and I swear Brandon Morrow struck out two hitters in the time it took one Trevor Hoffman fastball to get to the plate. I love pitchers.

 

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Poor Adrain Beltre

Such bad luck. He just rakes the ball everyday but he can’t ever find a hole or some grass…but even in his bad luck he is still finding the seats a 32 HR pace so that it good. But I mean even the umpires are screwing Beltre over.

Highlights though. Morrow was just amazing to watch, Lopez came through, RRS is RRS (underrated)., Good Game 499 was not fun to watch though.

by Edgar for Mayor on May 28, 2008 1:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny being Manny

He dressed up like Ortiz before the at bat.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 28, 2008 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird, I thought it was Manny's 499th HR that I caught....

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did you keep it?

What was the offer?

by Teej on May 28, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kept it.

They asked what I wanted. I asked a few friends and family members what I should get. I decide on asking for either the bat he hit it with, signed, the jersey he wore last night, signed, or a picture with him which he would sign. They said to keep it. I started to walk away, Kevin Youkilis came out to barter with me (he’s way shorter than you’d think, and his beard is even more gnarly in person) and he said “Look man what do you want for it?” and I repeated the demands and he said to just keep it then because Manny’s very particular about keeping all his stuff. So I kept it.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right on.

Though it’s weird that he would care enough to send someone out to talk to you, but wouldn’t even take a picture with you to get his ball back.

You should have traded it for Youk’s beard.

by Teej on May 28, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want money.

Money goes away, but the ball, or any 499 related stuff that Manny used that day I’d have forever. Plus it’s 499, not 500, it’s not like I’ll make too much bank on that. And I’m a baseball nerd, so sentimentality for having one of my favorite hitters’ 499th home run ball is more important to me than like a thousand bucks or something.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, he would have given up more than a grand.

Maybe not, actually.

Sounds like he at least cared. But I guess if he really cared, he would have come out himself and just asked you straight up like a man for it.

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They marked every ball thrown to Manny last night with "M 99" on it.

Here’s a picture of the ball

Yeah, the 99 is upside down. But today (and last night after he hit the ball to me) they started writing “M 00” only on the balls thrown to Manny. That’s what they told me anyway. So if he fouled any off last night there’s a few other people with “M 99” balls too. But I’ve got the video proof….woo.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in a Doyle Jersey, Ray's hat, and sinking ship LL T-Shirt

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the same Doyle Jersey

That your mom tried to ask Chuck Armstrong directly for a refund? Or was that Robert’s mom. I always forget…

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 28, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did an usher sweep you away right when it was caught?

or was it up to you to go down to the clubhouse?

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, my section's usher and a security guard led me down to the clubhouse.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what you mean about Youklis...

I saw him outside of Fenway after a game…you would think he’s the garbage man. Unassuming baseball man if you ask me.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 28, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what i bet they..

did little variations on, say, 20 balls that Manny was being thrown…
and then had a little notepad… and then when M-99 which was upside down and with unconnected 99s got hit, they just ticked it off. Makes sense.

I’m way too into this, by the way.

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome if you caught 500

tonight… and the look on their faces when you come marching in after the game.

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could probably dupe some RSN West fan for hundreds of dollars.

I am sure there are plenty of rich Sox fans in the area that would pay a pretty penny for Manny’s 499.

by Fin on May 28, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless I'm getting six figures or more I'm keeping it.

It’s worth more to me than money.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SIX figures? Really?

Damn, I mean…. someone offers you 5 or 10k, and you’d turn that down?

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 28, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'd sell it for 80 K or so.

But for me money really isn’t an issue. My family does pretty well and I don’t need the extra money. Unless it could pay for my whole college or let me skip college entirely and skip straight to retirement, I’m going to keep it. 499 isn’t enough to get me more than just some savings which is nice but I don’t know, having the ball means more to me.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this statement.

There are a few things I have that are worth way, way, WAY more to me than the money they’d fetch in return—even though it wouldn’t be insignificant…

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 28, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Money never crossed my mind when they were asking me what I wanted…the moment is worth more than the money

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4

but I’m pretty easy

by JI on May 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'd sell it for 3K or more.

That’s how much I just spent on my new PC – I could use it.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 28, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's irrational.

And I may change my mind if I saw the money in front of me, but for me it’s the experience and having that in my possession that’s important, not the money.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do something like make a plaque with your ticket and the ball

I did this when I caught Carlos Guillen’s first career homer.

Photobucket

by Sec 108 on May 28, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you go to get this done?

Man, the icing on the cake would be if I could get Manny to sign it too….but if he wanted it back I doubt he’d do that…haha

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 28, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The place that did that one no longer exists

But I’ll bet any trophy shop can do it.

by Sec 108 on May 28, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite thing about the game

Listening to the archived radio broadcast I could tell that Mr. Niehaus was having fun calling the game tonight. A lot of excellent calls, and man was he excited while Morrow was pitching. He was a lot of fun to listen to tonight.

by thewyrm on May 28, 2008 3:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He was great on TV too

you know, he seems to be having a hell of a lot of fun this year somehow. Maybe I’m just grasping at something positive, but he’s having a great year – no misjudging fly balls, great rapport with Blowers, etc. Good stuff.

by marc w on May 28, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Morrow has looked absolutely awesome so far

This isn’t the “WALK THE WORLD, BRB” rookie we were seeing last year. His fastball command has improved dramatically and he’s getting some secondary stuff over for strikes.

Dare I… dare I convey a glimmer of h.. .ho… ho… hope?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 28, 2008 3:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No TIF

...don’t’ curse us with the h-word

by Edgar for Mayor on May 28, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw this nice little blurb on ESPN page 2

The story: The Mariners, a popular playoff pick, own baseball’s worst record. GM Bill Bavasi says, “This is not a field manager issue. … It’s related to (players’) underperformance and underachievement. No one had the nerve to pick us anywhere but first or second or making it as the wild card.”

The real story: Well, as my friend Doug wrote me, “Everyone except just about every amateur and professional sabermetrician in the entire country who pointed out Bavasi has wasted money and talent acquiring overpaid and past-peak players for half a decade now” picked the team to finish near or under .500.

The verdict: Fire Bill! Before he messes up yet another draft (like taking Brandon Morrow over local boy Tim Lincecum).

by thewyrm on May 28, 2008 3:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The draft is more based on scouting recommendations.

And Morrow is a great pick if he is made into a starter, which may be happening soon.

by Wilder. on May 28, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't saying I necessarily agreed with their blurb

just thought it was interesting ESPN is pointing out Bavasi’s misleading comment.

by thewyrm on May 28, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha

I wasn’t even a saber head then and I still wasn’t going to drink the front office kool-aide. When you get outscored by a TON and still win 88 games, there is just no way you were a 88 win ball club.
USSM said it best. People the cover the game as HOBBY should not know how to run the team better than Bavasi does. But we do and its wrong.

by Edgar for Mayor on May 28, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I reading that graph right...

When Ichiro took 2nd base without a throw just before Lopez’ game-winning hit, did the win probability really go DOWN? Any explanation for this?

by Milendriel on May 28, 2008 4:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Win probability stayed the same, I think the dip before the Lopez hit on the graph was the second out of the inning. From there the IBB to Ichiro and him advancing to second didn’t affect the WE because the winning run was on third already.

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It dropped 0.4%

I don’t know why, but it’s pretty insignificant.

by Jeff on May 28, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not that detailed

I think it might just be a minor glitch in the spreadsheet.

by Jeff on May 28, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, just confirmed with Markov

it varies on the run environment, but it does dip sometimes.

by Matthew on May 28, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the argument here is that

catcher’s indifference is inversely correlated with scoring?

I guess all the random CI’s with 2 outs and a closer’s on the mound have taken their toll.

Oh Markov Chain, is there anything you can’t do?

by marc w on May 28, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes some sense.

Since the WPA isn’t calculated pitch by pitch, and defensive indifference typically happens late in games where the pitching team is way ahead, advancing on defensive indifference is also a pitch delivery, and probably a strike, so you’re 1/3 of an our closer to the end of the game.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 28, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Carlos Guillen

Via Rotoworld:

“He can hardly move—he’s got hemorrhoids so bad,” Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Tuesday. “He’s been playing with hemorrhoids that probably need to be lanced.”

by Alex B on May 28, 2008 7:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"He can hardly move—he’s got hemorrhoids so bad," Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Tuesday. "He’s been playing with hemorrhoids that probably need to be lanced."

You’ve got to be kidding me! Tell me Leyland wasn’t freaking pounding beers before he made this comment…

Way to look out for your guys, Skip!

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding.

Show some respect for your player and don’t announce to the world he’s playing with speed bumps on his ass.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 28, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, imagine drunks in the stands shouting for at least the rest of the season.

I think even Jarrod Washburn is jealous with the amount of under-the-bus-throwing going on in this story.

by lyleleander on May 28, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is nothing new

George Brett went thru the same thing when he was playing and it was reported in the press as well.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 28, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reported like this though?

I seem to remember the reporting on his condition being a bit more subtle.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 28, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember a whole interview

on TV with him about it. I could be wrong as it was so long ago…. but I know it was pretty big in the news back then as he was going to miss some time because of it and he’d been playing with it for a while.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 28, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course news back then

wasn’t as rampant as news nowadays with all the internet access.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 28, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that's it.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 28, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So far, my morning has consisted of:

1) 20 minute shower
2) 5 minutes staring at fiddle cat
3) 10 minutes eating oatmeal/reading paper
4) 10 minutes staring at fiddle cat
5) 20 minutes brushing teeth/grooming
6) 40 minutes staring at fiddle cat

I’m not getting anything done today at this rate

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 10:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's OK, I have a lot of work to do this morning

and then I got really confused by sexonsux’s posts in the GT Part 1 and retroactively rec’d LFoJL for recognizing me at the Penultimate Fan of Jose Lopez.

And those were the highlights

by seattlebruin on May 28, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you. Also:

I went to bed early and completely missed JoLo fucking the man. Goddammit, even when this team satisfies me, it’s never complete

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 28, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

err, I mean I realize that's not the video itself

but it should help you find it

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 28, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking Laurel and Hardy too

Sure it’s not Babe’s in Toyland?

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, it's Babes in Toyland, I just found the video

The Cat and the Fiddle sketch from the movie

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

apparently

“March of the Wooden Soldiers” and “Babes in Toyland” are the same movie, so we’re both right. Two names, apparently.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 28, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're right

By the way, prepare yourselves….

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've gotta run

I’ll try to find the whole movie when I get back, this is from the trailer on youtube

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they did a retro technicolor job on it after the fact.

I think I remember seeing this movie in color when I was a kid.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 28, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fast Forward to the 25 min mark

link

Sadly I can not give you the full five recs since I had to find the video myself.

by JI on May 28, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think that's where the confusion came from

March of the Wooden Soldiers was the technicolor “remake” of the original, or something like that.

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Now I am going to have daymares.

by Seishi on May 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am watching Blast of Silence right now

But as soon as it’s over I will be watching that movie. Awesome.

-aaron c.

by acblue on May 28, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was reading about it

and apparently Babes in Toyland was a quick remake of this movie. I think this is the one with the cat and mickey, at least as far as I can tell from google search.

P.S. – Mickey Mouse is played by a capuchin monkey.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 28, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woohoo!!!

Just scored front row tickets to tonight’s game! Just down the line from 1st base.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 28, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fun fact of the day:

Felix has the worst run support of any pitcher in baseball, averaging 2.52 runs per start.

by OlSalty on May 28, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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