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Horacio Ramirez may have left, but his spirit lives on.

Matthew's Note: DICKEY! If this team is going to fail, and boy will it, at least fail in an entertaining manner.

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Ate him WHOLE.

So he’s still there, inside Vidro, feeding off hot dog remnants.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HoRam might not be as bad as Washburn was yesterday.

At least he was less of a prick.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And (as far as we know)

didn’t mess around with little girls

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a meme.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

She was 16.

Technically he’s an ephebophile.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about?

HoRam was king of never accepting blame for sucking.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Pathetic....

I don’t give a shit how hard Ichiro hit that ball there is no reason that he’s not standing on 2B. This guys are mailing it in.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I suck at photoshop.

Can someone make a “Lisa Cuddy Throwing in the Towel” shop?

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll have to build it from scratch

use the Princeton Plainsboro logo

by JI on May 22, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro does this shit every once in a while

He’s really cautious to a fault some times

by ack on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Ichiro really have any reason to care?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have 6 hits, but only 1 BB and only 1 XBH

A team of pussies could do better

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Angels?

Yeah, probably.

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think....

the M’s should get Brian Bannister and make him a player/GM.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crazy, I know.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't that be great though?

He answers his cell phone in between pitches, hangs up, and walks over to Jose Lopez and tells him that he’s been traded to the Brewers.

Manager pulls him from the game and is subsequently fired.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Traded for a delicious can of Sprite.

And Lake Geneva.

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over Under on runs scored this inning: .5

(Just to make Jeff mad)

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases loaded

Nobody out. Chances of this being an unproductive inning = 82%

by ThundaPC on May 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awful...

and so predictable.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bases loaded, 0 outs

Raul’s BIP is labeled “In play, no out”

Knew something had to be wrong. Turns out it was everything.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was in play.

So… Um… Gameday had that going for them.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Improbable Suckage!

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So bad....

Bases loaded and 0 outs….

The inning is over like 2 minutes later.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Matthew Joyce.

Who in the fuck is Matthew Joyce

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fun fact!

2004 Mariners after 48 games: 18-30

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair....

the 2004 team had talent…

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disregard....

I read that as 1994…..

2004 team stunk.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see...

We had Ichiro and… we had Ichiro.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that Player A

or Rich Aurilia?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boone, Moyer

shit, cock, balls (otherwise known as Pineiro, Spiezio, Aurilia)

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not Raul's fault

his defense was likely passable in ‘04.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I am (doing a poor job of) trying to get across that we willful made a huge downgrade to our team and most people didn’t take notice.

by JI on May 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I forgot about him

by Graham on May 22, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Llewdor

since i missed the earlier question (damn you, work!):

The Mariners are 20th in triples allowed, with 7.

Top three:
Rockies 17
Dodgers 13
Jays 12

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 22, 2008 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

And so is Washburn!

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reed!!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Reed

hopefully that buys him some LF time

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding?

One hit a week gives vets all the PT they need. If a guy is under 27 he has to hit .350 to get playing time around here. Unless he’s a shitty defensive player then he gets all the time he needs.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey look at that.

We have a left fielder who can get basehits and can play defense.

Sit the fuck down on the bench, son. You’re not Mariner material.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude...

I sat like 15 rows down from that guy a few weeks ago. A drunk guy in front of me walked up to him and yelled “ICHIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No runs, one hit, two left.

Typical.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One trade that gets a lot of shit, but probably shouldn't

(Tino + Nelson + Mecir) in exchange for--> (Sterling Hitchcock + Russ Davis).

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, actually, yes it should.

An all-star 1B plus a good reliever for a no-stuff LH and a crappy fielding 3B is pretty bad, even if it is salary-driven. Tino’s not HOF material, but he’s not THAT far out of it. He’s in the Moyer/Boone class of being a fairly close miss.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

huzzah what?

Tino’s not even close to HoF.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two years of above average play?

Me thinks not.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two years of spactaculatr play

two more of very good play

several years of decent play

No, he’s not a HOFer, but he has a much better case. Defense matters.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

I grant you defense matters, but we have a player who had an OPS+ over 100 on 13 separate occasions, 340 home runs, vs a 2nd baseman with only 5 years of an OPS+ over 100, 252 home runs and 5 years of sub 90 OPS+ during his peak years.

Tino is far more HOF worthy than Bret Boone, though neither are close. Bret Boone’s defense doesn’t make up for overall never being that good other than 2 of his years in Seattle.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tino was basically a league average firstbaseman

Bret Boone was arguably the best player in the AL on one season, and the best secondbaseman in baseball two others.

His career destroys Tino’s.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely disagree with this premise.

Best during two seasons? Who cares? If you’re awful every other year, you really didn’t accomplish much.

Should Francisco Liriano be in the hall of fame because he also won Cy Young his rookie year, even if he spends every other day of his career in the minors? Of course not.

Tino has great numbers every year he played. Boone had good numbers thrice. Tino wins.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tino has great numbers every year he played

The hell? No he didn’t.

. Boone had good numbers thrice.

Wrong wrong wrong.

Boone had several good years in the 90s.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1994...

MAYBE 1998, debatable.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said,

his defense may have been quite good, but it doesn’t make up for not being a good hitter. Brandon Inge is not getting into the hall of fame any time soon. And I don’t know how to look up Tino’s defense at first, but wasn’t bad enough to take away his offensive accomplishments.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Boone was a really really good defensive 2B

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not

I’m talking overall value.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"except that tino wasn't an outstanding offensive player"

“And boone was decidedly below average”

These comments relate to each other by the fact that they are nested.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But to factor in who is a better player you have to factor in defense.

A 95 OPS+ with great 2B defense is worth as much as 120 OPS+ With average defense at 1B. So they probably broke even a lot as far as actual value. Though as an offensive player, save for his late Seattle seasons and one year in Cincy, I would agree that Tino is the better offensive player.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah, Tino was a better hitter

But Boone’s defense annihilates that. It’s not like he was Mark McGwire. Compare Tino to his peers year to year and I’d bet you find that he ranked in the top 6 or 7 1B twice in his entire career. Compare Boone to his peers at 2B and I bet he’d have several more to 6-7 finishes.

Plus, Tino was never at any point the best defensive or offensive player at his position. Boone was at least three times, and he played a harder position.

by JI on May 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and except for the obvious lows of 1996-97

for was a very good hitter for a secondbaseman.

I’d also ague that Orlando Hudson is a much better player than Tino Martinez ever was.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that.

The O-Dog’s defense broke PMR, if you’ll recall. The dude’s practically an MVP candidate on his glove alone.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

But I will Hudson’s peak destroys Tino’s peak.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*say

it’s entirely a longevity thing.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tino was really really good though.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to see the irony in criticizing Boone for only having two good years

when Tino really only had two really good years to his credit.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course.

And 14 other above average years, with significantly better raw numbers over a sustained period of itme.

Boone: 2 good years, several awful years, some meh years and 2 okay years. No good raw numbers, no good totals. Only other positive side was his defense.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're both very good players.

Boone’s best years are probably enough to give him a slight edge, though Tino was way more consistent. I’d take them both.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tino was a worse hitter for his postion that Boone was.

and he wasn’t exactly Keith Hernandez with the glove.

Believe me Boone is a far superior player.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't agree that two good years make a great player.

Without any sustained offensive success. But since we clearly disagree on that basic premise this argument is somewhat moot.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HE HAD WAY MORE THAN TWO GOOD YEARS

and even if you only count the two really good ones… well Tino really only had two really good years too. The rest of the time he was anywhere from inoffensive to mediocre.

by JI on May 22, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could've sworn OPS+ was position adjusted too.

But maybe it is just park adjusted.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Career 112 OPS+

OPS+ is park adjusted…pretty much good for .270/.350/.460 with average-ish defense every year. Tino was better for longer and his best was better than Casey’s best.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or his better was better than Casey's better >_>

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey's best two years as basicall as good as Tino's two best.

yeah, Tino is the better player, but Casey is comparable.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd put him up against guys like Kelly

“New York ballplayers who were good but not HOF worthy”

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't leieve Bernie williams doesn't get HOF talk

since A) he’s probably worthy, and B) he was an irreplaceable part of the late 90s Yankee juggernaut.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd pump him for it. Good offense and D.

He might be a better player than Jeter, and Jeter, overrated as he is, is pretty good.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tino was replaced with cheap players that matched his production

and Davis’ defense wasn’t a problem until years later.

Davis was seen as a league average thirdbaseman, Hitchcock was a cheap ~ league average starter. Plus there’s no way Tino even resembles a HOF player.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, what?

Russ Davis, first year in bigs: .939 fielding percentage. His career average was well below league average. And I can tell you he wasn’t making errors on balls nobody could have gotten to, either.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, am I glad this team worked on its situational hitting

God knows that that skill would have been wasted if they hadn’t.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Griffey never hits 600

and they play that mlbtv commercial for 50 years.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope he does it all in one game

So that it is over so quickly they don’t have time to hype it up more.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a fault with my MLB.tv player

As I’m able to watch live games other than Derek Jeter’s.

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's crap isn't it?

You basically have to use Gameday to navigate the player.

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, cunning

I will do this in future

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How does that work

you copy everything but the java script part?

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you open the game as normal

as soon as it loads up you right click, choose properties, and copy the address. You then paste it into WMP (file—-> open URL). You must do it very quickly because the address is only valid for x number of seconds. I do this because I like to doc the gmae on top.

Or if you just want to watch in the flash window, all you need to do is click on the links and the player should load automatically.

by JI on May 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh okay

so its the same as it used to be, just have to be quick.

Now if I could only figure out how to open a url in wmp11.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 22, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what's awesome about mlbtv?

you can go back and watch Jon Lester’s no hitter as many times as you want!!!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Christ Mac

why are you burning through the bullpen!? You have a fucking knuckleball pitcher!

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What're you new?

Mac’s bullpen strategy is to do the opposite of what is reasonable.

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs more guys to succeed so Bill can DFA them.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus Mac likes having excuses

“the bullpen was tired” everyone is just tired…
etc.

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Side note:

Carlos Triunfel is back from his suspension, and went 3-4 last night.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My deepest apologies.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

No success allowed.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So... Batista wanted to have a starting rotation where

All 5 pitchers pitched 200 innings huh?
What an idiot…

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They're only going 2 innings at a time.

Can’t we just have two starters who pitch on alternate days?

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We do.

We have two starters and 3 garbage.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats the chance...

That we return from this road trip with a new manager and/or GM?

Here we go Bedard, Here we go...(clap, clap)

by tkballer22 on May 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GM no

if the team gets swept in New York there could be some changes in the coaching staff.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even care....

What’s the point when all Howie and the crew will do is interview a bunch of retread “good baseball men” to replace Bavasi with? Until those jokers give up power to new thinkers the franchise is screwed.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figure both Howie and Chuck will retire in 15 years

At which point Ms ownership decides to sell an Paul Allen purchases the team. Smart GM inserted, rebuilding begins. 5-6 years after that we’ll have a competitive ballclub.

So, in 20 or 21 years we can look forward to a good team.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Euthanasia

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After.

We call up Feierabend to replace Washburn after Washburn shoots himself in despair when all of the concession girls are issued tasers.

So then we need Batista to eat innings because we already DFA’d Baek.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoo boy.

Mac isn’t going to make the trip back to Seattle now.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHA

The way Simms called that play was hilarious. He sounded so completely unsurprised

by OlSalty on May 22, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a question

Would you rather us lose every game 10-3 from here on out, or every game 6-5 from here on out?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

6-5 if Wlad and Beltre homer.

10-3 if they go hitless.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would we score 3 runs if we go hitless

When we can’t even score 3 runs on 8 hits 3 bbs and 1 hbp?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not "we."

Wlad and Beltre.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game is so bad I wish Hawk Harrelson were calling it.

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by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is it wrong

that I wish all our runs we’re scored as a result of something Ichiro, Beltre, Wlad and I guess Lopez did?

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No.

But I’d add Reed to the list.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd also remove Ichiro.

I really don’t care about how well he does. I like him, and I like him on the team, but I don’t personally invest any emotion into his success.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd keep Ichiro in the list

because his success smites baseball purists, casual fans, and “analysts.”

Him succeeding makes them miserable. That makes me happy.

by BrianL on May 22, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.. okay.

At least I personally am not invested in it, even if the outcome is sweet.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hay, I have an idea!

We’re down by 7 runs. LET’S USE 8 PITCHERS!!

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's starting to have that air of Hargrove-itis

With using the bullpen when you shouldn’t in order to save your job.. Funny how Grover did while up a run or two and Mac does it down by 6-10 runs. What does that say?

by seattlesundevil on May 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He left after an 8 game winning streak and under his own accord.

So, I don’t know if we know what the pink slip aura feels like with the M’s.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 22, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn.

That means he can’t take Washburn’s next turn.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs