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Seattle Mariners at Detroit Tigers, May 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT


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Seattle Mariners @ Detroit Tigers

05/22/08 10:05 AM PDT

Seattle Mariners Detroit Tigers
Ichiro Suzuki - CF Curtis Granderson - CF
Adrian Beltre - 3B Placido Polanco - 2B
Jose Lopez - 2B Gary Sheffield - DH
Raul Ibanez - DH Magglio Ordonez - RF
Richie Sexson - 1B Miguel Cabrera - 1B
Jeremy Reed - LF Carlos Guillen - 3B
Kenji Johjima - C Matt Joyce - LF
Wladimir Balentien - RF Edgar Renteria - SS
Yuniesky Betancourt - SS Brandon Inge - C

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Miguel Batista 3-5 10 9 0 0 1 0 45.2 58 32 31 3 30 33 6.11 1.93

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jeremy Bonderman 2-4 9 9 0 0 0 0 51.0 49 32 27 8 33 30 4.76 1.61

Jeremy Bonderman can't pitch* despite possessing all the stuff necessary to be a staff ace. Miguel Batista can't pitch.

(* Not counting 2008 however, as his fastball's down and he may be injured.)

Best Mariner lineup so far all season. Small victory.

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Am I crazy?

Or does a sub .300 on base percentage player not need to be batting in the heart of the order?

by SkipT on May 22, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which one? Sexson?

Consider the alternatives

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If his name was Mister Awesome, he wouldn't get a crown

those are reserved for royalty. Like KA. and the King, Felix Hernandez.

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need KG

he would have destroyed Washburn by now like Wash destroyed that sixteen year old girl’s hopes and dreams.

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Gass?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 22, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny G

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 22, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And vagina

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On second thought

The DHfielder is playing DH, I’ll shut my mouth.

by SkipT on May 22, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at it this way,

Sheffield and his pile of suck is batting 3rd for the Tigers.

It’s sort of nice to know everyone has problems.

by Faux on May 22, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gasp and Shock

We’ll probably get this lineup at least once a week at least.

by ThundaPC on May 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll get it just enough to lose the Strasburg Sweepstakes

it’s like the Mega Millions ticket where you only miss one number and some stupid old lady from Kansas wins the $300M jackpot.

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woot!

Reed, you better go 4-4, so maybe we’ll get more than one day of this.

by Faux on May 22, 2008 9:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you know the Mariners would trade

for a half-opened, flat can of Sprite, though. Which is pretty much as not refreshing as you can get.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 22, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'd probably trade for a half-opened, flat two liter of Sprite

which is like whatever (2L/12oz)*conversion factor as unrefreshing as the half-opened flat can of Sprite

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did say it was a delicious can.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's all we can ask for at this point from this team

Small victories.

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 9:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets put this lineup in other terms and see what it looks like

OPS
.740
.779
.696
.849
.709
Small Sample
.570
.724
.650

Boy Howdy!

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 22, 2008 9:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Kielty?

Don’t know many redheads in baseball.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your kid?

smaller images plz

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 22, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5/22/08 Seattle Mariners: Recalled RHP R.A. Dickey from Triple-A Tacoma.

I have a feeling there will be a photoshop image in this threads near future.

by SkipT on May 22, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was actually the subject of a FanPost I was thinking of

“What Mariners lineup consisting only of players on the current roster would be the most amusing to you for a one game trial”

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burke for CF!

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro pitching.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking (before I cut my comment off because I'm stupid)

3B Sexson
C Washburn
RF Betancourt
2B Lopez
CF Burke
DH Cairo
1B Wlad
LF Beltre
SS Reed

SP Ichiro

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, why not

You just can’t trade for Albert Pujols and play him at first and such

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to big of a fan of Lopez batting 3rd

I feel like we’ve regressed back to May ‘06.

But yaya Reed!

Someone say something witty.

by Omerta on May 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Krueger: "This Tigers team has been bad."

Yea, I’m glad we can admit when another team isn’t good….

by ThundaPC on May 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least that makes for a good meal

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if you boil them.

That’s the way I prepare babies. Mmm. Stewed babies.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 22, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer them a little bloody myself

Like with babies I prefer to filet most of the skin off first so you can taste the juices a little better.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to write that down

Thanks for the cooking tip

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm here to help.

Using good quality extra virgin puppy oil always helps as well.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can buy that at Sullivan's, right?

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My work just gave me a new 22" Samsung monitor

with the intention of dualing it… and then the IT guy realized what I hadn’t even bothered to check – my video card doesn’t support dual monitors.

Now I just want to keep the $300 monitor and dual it with my 22” Westinghouse at home… I wonder if they’d let me bring my spare 19” to work and trade it for the new 22…

by seattlebruin on May 22, 2008 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Would we have it any other way?

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

needs to be wiping his face

With Giambi’s gold thong.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of Giambi

I’m praying for him to have a monster year.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys know he's definitely signing on the East Cost right?

He’s said as much before. That’s why a lot of Angels fans didn’t want him.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I meant within the realm of people who could actually be signed here

Who you think you WILL sign is something different of course. But if your the GM, who would you be thinking about going after?

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

If we’re going to pay $Texas for a slugger at 1B, it might as well be for best-in-breed, like we did for Beltre.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF you can outbid the Yanks and O's for him.

Not to mention the Braves, who seem to like him well enough.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braves have no money

This team can outbid their competitors, if they want to

by Graham on May 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough, but "I want to sign with a team in X location"

prior to free agency isn’t usually one of the things they lie about. If everybody on the East Coast lowballed him, he might leave, but Baltimore and Yanks are definitely going to be in on that action.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Cashman isn't dumb enough to keep Giambi

when Texiera is on the market. And Don’t be too sure about the O’s. If they keep winning, and appear one piece short of a playoff team they might very well pony up. And the O’s are Tex’s wishlist team.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They won't keep winning

and who says Cashman calls the shots or is even the GM of the Yanks this winter?

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep Giambi at 20 mil

or just sign a younger Texira for the same price?

by laxtonto on May 22, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 year or 8 years...

and the Steinbrennars are smart baseball people?

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he's not.

Jiambi is not a Steinbrenner favorite, while Tex will likely be the top draw on the ESPN lists (ie. top of the “Oooo Shiny” list)

And you seem pretty confident that they wont keep winning. Sherril has demonstrated an aptitude for closing, and Cabrera-Guthrie-Burres-Albers doesn’t look like too bad a staff right now. They could easily end the year at ~.500 or better.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have a good defense, so it's it's not surprising that

Sherrill is turning balls in play into outs.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+11 according to THT

Through yesterday, good for 4th best in the AL. shrug

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Sherril?

Because Relievers have tiny BABIPs all the time, and sustain them fairly regularly.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overall yes.

But you have guys like Sherrill balancing out guys like, say Chris Bootcheck or Rick White. The range is way larger.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um

The reason the spread is larger is because relievers throw less than starters.

by Graham on May 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

That’s why .190 BABIPs are sustainable in relief. Fewer innings, less time for guys to get a read on your pitches.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're not sustainable over time.

The more inning you throw, the more likely you are to pull to the center.

by JI on May 22, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it seems pretty likely that it's skill in Sherrils case

Take a look at his splits for last year vs this year. He’s doing pretty much the same thing this year that he was last year. The only difference is that this year he’s facing more righties since he’s a Full time closer. His numbers might come up a little bit, but I wouldn’t think too much. His leftie numbers were bumped up last year because he was always facing the BEST lefties. Whereas now, it’s whoever happens to be up in 9th.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not below .200 necessarily

but below .225, sure. It won’t come up enough to make a significant impact on his effectiveness as a closer.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.807 DER isn't good

it’s “The Orioles manage to have 11 fielders and nobody cares because they’re boring and they suck” unsustainable.

by Matthew on May 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At first base I mean

after Sexson is gone.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 22, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll happen if he stays healthy.

You’re BABIP doesn’t stay that low unless it’s 2001 and your name is McGwire.

by JI on May 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know it wouldn't be totally awful if we just put the right people in the right places.

Ichiro CF
Lopez 2B
Beltre 3B
Ibanez 1B
Wlad RF
Clement C
Kenji DH
Reed LF
Yuni SS

That’s not the most awful in the world.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richie's done for sure.

We don’t know yet about Kenji.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty convinced

that Richie’s a .200/.290/.390 player now. I’m not convinced that Johjima is completely toast.

In an ideal world I woudn’t want either of them back, but I’m a Mariners fan, I don’t get the ideal.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah we're not scoring here huh?

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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding, right?

That’s it. I’m turning on the radio to listen to this debacle. I don’t care what anyone else in the office thinks (hell, I’m the boss anyway, so fuck ‘em!).

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woke up for that

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, I probably should change it

actually I’m gonna leave it until Reed is in LF everyday and Raul is at DH

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha that's awesome

Nine pitches I love it

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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And by Mojo you mean Bile.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fixed my Picard picture

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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

With this series having Mike Reilly in it, I knew the M’s were doooooomed.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone should do a little chart of the ball coming out of his hand

and sinking down the screen for every loss the Mariners ‘achieve’ till we finish
with the worst record in baseball.

by lyleleander on May 22, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy things!

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 22, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just so everyone knows

Sheffield is batting 3rd because he can score on a double. Ground breaking info from the Tigers broadcast.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Batista's first two pitches to the first five hitters

Ball, Ball.
Ball, Called Strike.
Ball, Ball.
Foul, Ball.
Ball, Foul.

That’s great. Only 7/10 pitches were balls. And now he’s getting rocked

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For a second I was like "Who the fuck is that guy"

Then I realized it was Reed. Too bad that I won’t see him for another week after this

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on May 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

be slower

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For how much Squinty sucks

at least he doesn’t grover the lineup.

Coach Owens = No Fun Zone

by Scruffy Lefty on May 22, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait - is Gameday right?

Did Johjima ground out and not advance the runner? From first?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the sort of thing I would expect this team to manage to do.

Reed takes off for second, and Guillen doesn’t try to get him, but hen Reed think the ball was caught in the air and runs back to first after Johjima gets forced there. And the Tigers are so confused they don’t tag him in time.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Cryin out load....

hahaha even senile ‘ol Dave knows these clowns suck.

by PLU Tim on May 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, this game is IMPORTANT

We get to scout Placido Polanco, afterall. I mean, that’s gonna
be a huge free-agent signing in 2012… And will be well worth
the $10 million/year we throw at him.

It’ll be a great middle of the infield… to go along with our other huge
off-season addition that year, Rafael Furcal, who we get by trading
Strasburg.

Help is coming!

by lyleleander on May 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually had hope that Reed might bring that back.

With Raul, no hope exists.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking fuck, Inge is on my bench.

If I don’t say the magic words can I still talk about it?

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We feel your pain, we just don't care.

The Mariners make you numb like that.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh I watch the Mariners to make me feel better about life

Can’t get worse than them

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol well done

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raul doesn't even give chase

and if he does, he doesn’t make it to the warning track.

by JI on May 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad he didn't get that one

Squinty would have had to start Raul in LF for the rest of the month, just
on principle.

by lyleleander on May 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's ok, We'll just bring in Baek and RRS to mop up

again in the 3rd
/sarcasm

(Yes I know Baek is gone)

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's an idea to save the bullpen

Have Willie Boom Boom mop up for 6 innings, I’m sure his arm could endure tossing up floaters for 6 innings.

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was my thought.

Just accept that we’re the Washington Generals and embrace being a total sideshow.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reed's defense has me tripping balls.

I am used to seeing Ibanez/Duncan in LF. I had no idea a guy could cut off a ball that quickly.

by JI on May 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They'd be tolerable...

if we had an actual defense behind them. We won division championships and 90 games with guys like Spiroid and Paul Abbott pitching, because we could actually convert balls in play into outs.

The problem is that mediocre -to-suck pitching + mediocre -to-suck defense = suck.

by eponymous_coward on May 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.

Mediocre pitching + suck defense = runs allowed.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dick(ey) sighting

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on May 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs