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Who should I root for?

Tomorrow's the Champions League final.  Chelsea are playing Manchester United.  In an ideal world, both of these teams would be swallowed by an angry volcano, or found to be front organizations for Peruvian slave traders or something like that.  But, this is not an ideal world, and I need to find some way to overcome my severe hatred for both of these teams and choose one.  Why?  Because I'm going to watch the game with some friends, and I feel the need to be on one side or the other.  And the people I'm watching with are split down the middle, loyalty-wise, so that's no help.

So, who should it be? 

Should I root for Chelsea, what with them basically being the home team, even though Ashley Cuntington Cole plays for them and they represent everything horrifying about the modern European game (rich oligarch buying a toy and funding its way to success, damn the long-term consequences)?  Or should I root for Manchester United, which is like an unholy hybrid of the Yankees' money and the Red Sox' non-Boston fan base, and be happy to see the rictus grin of Cristiano Ronaldo when he inevitably scores twice?

This is my dilemma.  The only reason I can think of to root for anyone in this suppurating pustule of a game is that if Chelsea win they deny Man United the chance to say they've won more European Cups than Nottingham Forest.  And that is a powerful draw for my rooting interest, but I fear it may not be enough.  Anybody else got any reasons why I should pick one side over the other?

UPDATE 5/21:  I guess It has to be Chelsea.  I just can't bring myself to root for Man Utd, even on a temporary basis.  That'd be like rooting for the IRS.  Plus, Chelsea are Suggs' favorite team.  So Chelsea it is.

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We broke Henry last year, we don't want him back

but Messi would look mighty good in red and white.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Team, yes

but team+new stadium+lucrative condo development at Highbury = money for Messi if Wenger wants him. Which I hope he does.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 1:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I don’t think I could ever root for Man U

by Sec 108 on May 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is my dilemma

and this is also why, push comes to shove, I’ll probably be “rooting” for Chelsea. Loathing Man U is easier for me than anything else in my sports fandom – but loathing Chelsea is right up there. Ultimately I think I probably loathe them less, or at least have loathed them for less time, so that’s something I guess.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Root against the team you have loathed longer

I’ll go out on a limb and bet that is Man U. Roman Abramovich has only owned Chelsea since ‘03 right?

by Sec 108 on May 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's probably what I'll do

and the thought of Sir Alex winning another European Cup is another bullet in the “root against man utd” gun.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be rooting for Chelsea as well

Could you imagine what those ManUre fans would be like if they won both the Premiership and the Champions League? Takes me back to 2000…

Chelsea, as much as I don’t like them buying titles and the presence of Cashley Cole, just seem for some odd reason to have more redeeming qualities.

Plus I want to see the look on Alex Ferguson’s face when they lose it.

by Scrupio on May 20, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'll be like current Red Sox fans

considering that almost none of them live in Manchester.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 3:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate both teams as well

but I am going with Man U because of the way Chelsea beat Arsenal earlier in the year. That game really pissed me off.

by WCLittleGiant on May 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can watch a game with no vested interest in either team

and appreciate what each brings to the table.

Give it a try.

by Gomez on May 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't do it in this case

if it were any other two teams than these two, I would have no problem. But these two teams…it’s like watching the Yankees and the Angels play each other.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also like both teams

I don’t know about the actual personalities of each team, but I like Robben and Lampard a lot. And I like Wayne Rooney (so he frequently visits prostituties, who cares?) and CR “Pretty Boy” 7.
It’s fun to be an American watching soccer, because I have no real vested interest, and actually just enjoy watching good soccer.
That being said, if this game is on tonight, I’ll watch the NBA draft lottery, hopefully this won’t be our last.

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by LantermanC on May 20, 2008 1:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

when the hell did this happen? That’s what happens when you stop playing video games…

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by LantermanC on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, that's impressive

I can’t—any time someone tries to make me watch basketball I am immediately reminded of how much I hate that sport.

Free Barry Bonds

by thejew4u on May 20, 2008 3:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, sports are much more interesting when you have a vested

and emotional interest
Give me Mariners vs. Royals any day of the week over Yankees vs. Red Sox (Or Lakers vs. Celtics, Cowboys vs. Packers)

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on May 20, 2008 3:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's better than selling your soul

like pdb says, this is yanks v angels. Why sully yourself by supporting one? i respect man u, as much as i hate their fans. And i . . uh, have a respect for the achievements of chelsea, even as i think they are damaging the game.

by marc w on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didier Drogba

I can’t stand the guy. I must root for Manchester.

by Colorado Fan on May 20, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No idea who you should root for

Since I almost never watch soccer/futbol. But after reading this, I think I might have to watch the game tomorrow. Thanks for giving me enough information to actually care!

Free Barry Bonds

by thejew4u on May 20, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you're a neutral fan

it should be a pretty good game. They’re two good teams. They just both happen to be the spawn of Satan (sorry Graham).

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's ok, I feel similarly about Arsenal

And I also remember being us being worse than both Arsenal and Utd, so fuck you all :)

by Graham on May 20, 2008 3:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will in fact be less disgusted if Chelsea win than if Utd win

so I guess I’m blue for the day.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 20, 2008 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, I remember those days...

Started following back when Zola, Poyet, Desially, Wise, Di Matteo ect were around. Good days.

It’s hard because I love to see us winning, but it sucks to hated by other fans.

Can’t wait to watch. I might cry if Man U win though. Man I hate them.

Exactly where in the rule book it says that the home team cannot decide which rules will be used?

by Tilt on May 20, 2008 7:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I opened this I half expected you to be asking

whom you should root for, beside the Mariners.

I’m back on the Phillies bandwagon myself.

Someone say something witty.

by Omerta on May 20, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm rooting for neither

Can’t bring myself to do it. But hopefully it will be an exciting match.

by phil333 on May 20, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not much to choose, one way or another

But a friend is hardcore Chelsea all the way, so to spite him, I’ll root for Man U. I HATE the big four, though. Yeah, your Arsenal, too, even though there were times this year that they played truly sublime football, the best in the league.

by flightrisk on May 20, 2008 9:54 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great game so far

...and Ronaldo nearly got that career ending injury at the end.

by anunderwaterg on May 21, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was jumping when Lampard equalised

Didn’t seem too bad of a challenge to me, he got the ball.

And why in hell did Makelele get carded, what a terrible decision.

Exactly where in the rule book it says that the home team cannot decide which rules will be used?

by Tilt on May 21, 2008 12:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because God is a cruel bastard

my condolences. Shitty way to lose a game.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 21, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man what a sucky game to miss

Too bad I had work. How come you don’t like Cronaldo? He’s so dreamy…

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by LantermanC on May 21, 2008 2:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There were a few too many words in your subject line

The second half and extra time was pretty sucky, because both teams shut down to avoid losing. There were a few decent chances sprinkled in there, but it was by no means a glorious final. And the wrong team won. So you really didn’t miss much.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 21, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wasn't a bad final

The first half was good, there were a few excellent chances for both sides in the second half / extra time (Lampard, Drogba, Giggs with the open goal) and the night was topped off with John Terry crying his eyes out. Can you ask for much more than that?

by anunderwaterg on May 21, 2008 3:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm going to charter a plane and fly it into his house

I think I’ve actually become a Chelsea fan over the course of this afternoon. Don’t tell anybody.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 21, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

An Arsenal fan with sympathy for Chelsea?

Give yourself a shake, this is the blue Satan we’re talking about here. I’m no fan of Man United, but they’re the lesser of two evils.

by anunderwaterg on May 21, 2008 4:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Care to explain...

why United are the lesser of two evil’s?

I’m a Chelsea fan, but Man U are easily the one sporting team I hate the most in the whole world.

If it was United v Anyone I would be going for anyone

Exactly where in the rule book it says that the home team cannot decide which rules will be used?

by Tilt on May 21, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It depends on your perspective I guess

There’s always been a rivalry between West Ham and Chelsea going back to the times when a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthals (hooligans) used to bash their skulls together. However if you speak to a Liverpool or a Man City fan they’d probably have a different perspective.

by anunderwaterg on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair Enough

But personally, any rivaly doesn’t beat my hatred for United. They really are the devil of professional sporting teams IMO

Exactly where in the rule book it says that the home team cannot decide which rules will be used?

by Tilt on May 21, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man Utd are never the lesser of any evil.

Chelsea are a mild irritant compared to United.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 21, 2008 9:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I got a text from my Man U loving friend at 3 today. It said “guess who’s the champions of Europe?” Had he been present I probably would have punched him in the face.

by Nick S on May 21, 2008 11:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a very fair summary

I’m absolutely chuffed to bits with the result. Artistry triumphs over industry, Scholes crowns a stellar career and Drogba ends his Chelsea career on a fitting note.

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 1:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to brighten the mood a bit more....

do Chelsea owe $1bn to Abramovich?
Story here...

I’m not trying to rub salt in any wounds, but for me, that ended up being a pretty good final. Close game, then everyone got tired and the handbags came out. Both teams missed penalties in agonizing/hilarious ways (and Ronaldo’s shouldn’t have counted even if it went in). Both teams basically made fools out of themselves, then both tried to choke, and one succeeded. I’m okay with this.

by marc w on May 22, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ronaldo always pulls that stuttering crap

and I’m glad that for once it failed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not even a stutter, ala Figo

he came to a complete stop. Isn’t that blatantly against the rules? Wonder if the ref would’ve had the stones to disallow it….

by marc w on May 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't find anything in the rules to prohibit it

Fifa’s Law 14 covers penalties, and unless there’s been an interpretation somewhere, it doesn’t talk about how the kicker must approach the ball at all.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 22, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right

Any sort of run-up is allowed as long as it is not “unsporting”.

Graham Poll said in this morning’s paper that he thought Ronaldo’s run-up was “unsporting”, which automatically means it was perfectly legal.

Hilariously, his exact quote was “I believe 100 per cent that the referee would have forced a re-take if he had scored.”

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not seeing any discussion of 'unsporting' in rule 14

but I know it’s been discussed, both in re: figo and others who use that stutter-step in the run up.

I find it hilarious that Graham Poll turned colossal incompetence into a lucrative (if he got two quid, it was lucrative) memoir and a gig at a paper. Meanwhile, Pierluigi Colina is a consultant to the UEFA referee’s committee or some such?

All that said, I’m w/Poll – I think the ref would’ve called for a re-kick.

by marc w on May 22, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The "unsporting" thing is not in the rules per se

But it’s guidance that was issued to referees when the rules changed to allow goalies to move laterally along the goal-line. I don’t know why it’s not actually stated in the rules.

Personally, I disagree that the referee would have ordered a re-take. There is nothing unsporting IMO about pausing before shooting: it is obviously a valid tactic in open play and deceptive free-kick routines are commonplace.

I don’t believe that it is a good technique though. Trying to bluff the keeper adds an unnecessary level of complexity to taking a penalty. Just concentrate on sticking it in the corner with decent power: if you get it right then no keeper will save it.

by Alex B on May 22, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The intent is clearly to get the keeper to move or at least indicate

where he’s going, so in that sense the kick is unsporting in that upsets (or can upset) the timing of the keeper’s dive. It doesn’t really matter that it’s a valid tactic in open play or in a free-kick; it’s quite a different situation. If it’s legal, I can see all manner of feints and fakes with the point being to get the keeper on the ground before actually taking the kick.
You’re right of course that none of this should matter; a well taken penalty cannot be saved, and you’d think that someone of Ronaldo’s skill would realize this and put it away in the confident style of Anderson or Nani. If you’re capable of putting the ball in the corner from 25 yards out, with a wall in front of you, at an angle, and with a goalie able to move off his line, a penalty should be child’s play.

by marc w on May 23, 2008 9:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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