Why I Love the Rays
I was born and raised in and around the Seattle area, cursing me to a life tied to the fortunes of a team assembled by a man who purposely acquired Horacio Ramirez and Jose Vidro as premier offseason acquisitions. Why then, is my second favorite team the one nearly furthest away from me geographically? Many reasons.
I love baseball, always have. As a kid growing up in the Seattle suburbs, I was inundated early in life with Mariners' baseball. I still remember the first game I attended when I was five years old, walking up the big ramps of the Kingdome, looking around in awe, mostly at how much concrete there was. From that point on, baseball consumed me. I collected baseball cards, played little league, went to as many games as possible, and if I was not doing any of those, I was probably outside tossing a rubber ball against a concrete wall with a taped up strike zone on it, assured that one day I would be throwing off a big league mound.
My obsession with baseball did not end with the actual game itself. I also immersed myself in fantasy baseball as well, beginning in the mid 90's with the mail-in leagues run by The Sporting News. In an effort to help figure out the best allocation of fantasy resources, I tracked every player's stats in a spreadsheet, thus beginning my life's work of being an incredibly huge baseball nerd. What I got out all those fantasy leagues and all the baseball video games that I would play was an intense appreciation for roster management. To this day, when I find time to play baseball video games, I don't actually play the games (I'd much rather actually play baseball than simulate playing baseball), but rather I tinker with the roster for hours on end and then just sim past all the games. That's the challenge I enjoy, constantly retooling, rebuilding on the fly, making draft choices, etc. As such, there's no wonder that I carry this view over to my fanship of major league baseball as well.
I go into each offseason (or sometimes sooner as the case may be, such as now), coming up with dozens of different plans for how I would shape a team were I to have complete control. It is remarkably pointless work, but I cannot help myself, that's what drives me. Obviously being a Mariner fan means I'm left with a pretty hollow feeling at the conclusion of each offseason, bemoaning what could have been and attempting to trick myself (I don't have to try very hard, I'm a sucker) into hoping for a good season from my well-intentioned but not very bright team. That doesn't stop me from keeping an interest in other teams as well, in particular, to other team's rosters and their management thereof.
That's where the Rays shine through the strongest. I cannot think of any other team in baseball that handles their roster as intelligently, as efficiently, as the Rays do, and they've been doing it since day one of the new front office. It doesn't always show up on the field right away, but that's the best part, every move they make is seemingly part of a larger overall plan that guides them far more strongly than the short-term goals in front of them. Always put your stock in with the smart people, they'll triumph more often than not in the end.
And that is what the Tampa front office is made up of. It's not just the obvious stuff that the more intelligent fans see and spot as good management practice like locking up young talent, caring about the draft and the like. It's little things as well that would go unnoticed by all but a select few lucky enough to know that the Rays are doing them. Those lucky enough to know that, for example, the Rays take a keen interest in the latest analytical research. That they're users of Pitch F/X data and that they are interested in Greg Rybarczyk's work with Hit Tracker. These tidbits do not come out often, but when you catch wind of them, you nod and say to yourself, "of course they do. It's the Rays. They get it."
For those looking closely enough, of which there weren't enough, that long term plan was obviously coming together quickly and the throw-away comments about the Rays being possible division contenders come 2010 started to appear more frequently in 2006 and 2007. It was a bastion of far off hope for those of us sick with being bludgeoned over the head with Red Sox/Yankees non-stop 8 months out of the year. Then this past offseason came and saw the Rays completely revamp their biggest weakness in team defense and front it with a solid rotation backed by youth and incredible depth and supported by a growing crop of young and talented hitters. Meanwhile, they've done a fabulous job at locking up that young talent to contracts that benefit both sides; offering security for the players in exchange for the same for the team along with a discount over the insane market rates.
Suddenly it wasn't a far away, "maybe 2010," dream of contention, but rather a specific, "wow the 2009 Rays are going to be good," target. And then, here's the great part of good planning, it breeds good luck, the plan came together even quicker than anyone on the outside, and I bet some on the inside, thought it would and we see the Rays sitting atop the 2008 AL East.
Make no mistake; the Mariners are my team and that's almost certainly never going to change for as long as they're in Seattle. My civic pride for this city far outweighs any rationality I have. But logic tells us that the 2008 Mariner season is over. I won't stop watching, but it's not the same without even a glimmer of hope of post-season play. The Rays still have that hope. Will they stay there? Maybe not for this year. But get used to seeing their name up at or near the top of the East for the next several years. They have the talent, both on the field and in the front office, to run with any team in baseball and neither looks like it's going anywhere soon.
If you need a winning team to root for in 2008, there's no better option. Go Rays.
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I'm a phillies fan
but I’m rooting for both teams this year. I always hated the idea of rooting for two teams, but these Rays are just fun to watch.
by Sorry About Dresden on May 14, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
this is one organization that’s fun to pull for. They’re a non-rival / non-boring version of Oakland.
by JI on May 14, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting fo the Rays if but for no other reason that the Rays may be responsible for me seeing
a Yankeeless postseason for the first time in my baseball fandom.
Go Rays.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
1998 Expansion Teams Reign Supreme!
by Goose on May 14, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your post must be at least 7,450 words words long.
Please put some more thought into your post and try to bring something to the table.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on May 14, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good stuff.
Rays is fun baseball team on the rise. They’re becoming what I wish the Mariners would be. A team that’s building a solid foundation for winning now and in the future.
by ThundaPC on May 14, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Being from Seattle and cheering for the Mariners
is still better than being from Tampa and cheering for the Rays.
by Edgar for Pres on May 14, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Meaning the Rays almost could have been us. //cry
by Matthew on May 14, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
explain.
We almost had a brass who doesn’t lock up mediocrity for long periods of time?
NEEDS LESS SUCK
by Double06 on May 14, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
before '95 happened and SafeCo
the Mariners were heading out of town with Tampa as the most likely destination.
by Matthew on May 14, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohhhhh. I just didn't get the reference.
NEEDS LESS SUCK
by Double06 on May 14, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then again, Tampa residents have both a Super Bowl and a Stanley Cup this decade.
lucky jerks
by Matthew on May 14, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vacation in florida = fun
Live in florida…I don’t know.
by Edgar for Pres on May 14, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vacation in Florida in February = fun
Vacation in Florida in August = not fun
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on May 14, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Florida is a little overrated.
I used to live there. Not too great. I was in Marlins territory though, even though there isn’t exactly of “Marlins nation”. I think its alright for vacation, but not to live there. I love it here in Seattle much much better.
by Fin on May 14, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
I HATED Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. Central FL was much better IMHO.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on May 15, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad nobody from Florida loves the Rays
It’s the middle of May, they’re in 1st place in the AL East, and they are still drawing less than 20k?
Definetely can’t blame the weather!
by marinator on May 14, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Which is why they should move to Portland!
by marinator on May 14, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...but...
if that happened, Howie and Chuck would lose a sizable chunk of their market! They’d have to field competitive teams to make money!
by BrianL on May 14, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen, brother!
I already pretty much hate the Mariners, a NW rivalry would make it that much easier to quit caring about how poorly run they are.
I would buy season tickets forever if there were a team here.
by kidlondon on May 21, 2008 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also I would cherish the irony...
If they somehow kept the name Rays when they moved to a place with 8 months of rain.
by kidlondon on May 21, 2008 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would probably be called the Lumberjacks, or the Beavers
Either way, it’d be nicer to have a team which is properly ran in the vicinity.
by Fin on May 21, 2008 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should call themselves the Vikings or something
just to piss off the Mariners. Or like the Tritons.
by seattlebruin on May 21, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Krakens
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on May 21, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't moving.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if they move to Seattle?
We’ll trade you the Mariners for them.
Mojo Risin’!
by seattlebruin on May 21, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A decade of misery will do that.
I imagine people are pretty skeptical right now. Winning should change things eventually. So will the new park.
by Teej on May 14, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know. It's Florida. If the weather is nice there's a chance they may not want to go in to a domed stadium.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 14, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not nice that often
It’s either rainy (Thunderstorms) or hot nasty humid 100 degrees in the summer. I think Florida is greatly overrated by northerners.
by Fin on May 14, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a terrible ballpark and the team has sucked since its inception
people have the right to be a little skeptical.
by Jeff on May 14, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After June, I can't imagine playing outdoors in Florida
I think a dome is needed in Tampa Bay. I can’t believe they are going to build a non air conditioned stadium there.
Unfortunately I am also a like long M’s fan, but just moved from Tampa to Bellingham in Jan. I thought this might be a good season to be close to the M’s. :(
I guess I don’t have to stay up till 2-3am watching games anymore.
by Showhankhill on May 14, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From the stadium plans:
— “Mast and Arch” retractable roof design will provide a shelter from sun & rain and capture bay breezes while retaining the character of an open air ballpark & preserving sweeping views of the skyline and waterfront.— Air conditioned concourses and cool zones will be provided to maximize comfort for all fans.
I don’t know much about it, but it looks like the architects have comfort in mind. Whether it will work well is another question, though. I’m excited to see it.
by Teej on May 14, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 run back.
Last night’s hero up.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on May 14, 2008 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And last night's hero out :(.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on May 14, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Derek Jeter.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
1998 Expansion Teams Reign Supreme!
by Goose on May 14, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bought a Rays t-shirt last December
and I’m loving it. Especially after hearing people question it all winter.
The team’s stacked. And with the number one pick they have this June + the kids they have in the minors? They’re only going to get better.
The artist formerly known as Katal
by Katal LM on May 14, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What's funny is, you look at the kids they've graduated,
and they still have the best farm system in baseball.
according to Kevin Goldstein.
by Teej on May 14, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Post
That was great
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on May 14, 2008 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey look, it's the fat Brandon Morrow.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
1998 Expansion Teams Reign Supreme!
by Goose on May 14, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When the world ends and little microchips are floating around, I hope someone - maybe an alien, or Jesus - reads this post, it’s excellent and probably exemplifies what a lot of new Ray supporters feel.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 14, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since there's nowhere else to post this, John Lackey is
currently being lit up by the White Sox. May this trend continue (not that we have any chance—I just hate John Lackey).
by redwolf75 on May 14, 2008 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This isn't an open thread
I would prefer that people not try to turn it into one. Thanks.
by Jeff on May 14, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always have supported the Rays/Marlins because
1. I have lived in Florida
2. It’s so much fun rooting for shitty teams/teams without payrolls
In football, the Texans have been my second team for a while. I’m a Sonics fan, but I also watch a majority of Knicks games. When these teams win, it feels so great compared to when a team like the Mariners win. Because when the Mariners win, it’s expected; when the Sonics win, it’s a miracle. So, even as the Rays and Marlins have gotten better, I still have the mentality that gets excited when they win, because I’ve had the mentality that they’re bad for a while.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 14, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the Knicks? really?
with their $billion payroll?
by Matthew on May 14, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matthew
if I owned an MLB franchise… I would definitely hire you. And put you in a consultant position where you could be groomed to be the eventual GM.
by johnbai on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would hire Dave Cameron, Derek Zumsteg and Jeff Sullivan as my main guys
then Gomez, Matthew, and Graham as consultants.
by Fin on May 14, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hire Corco
and then all those bastards as consultants
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
by I'm NOT Corco on May 14, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hire Dave, Jeff, Matthew, and Graham as my main guys.
The others would get get small jobs in the org but those four know their shit better than anyone else
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 17, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather that position go to someone who's good with people
by Jeff on May 18, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the joke.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on May 18, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hire a blind monkey and give him an abacus for roster decisions
Watch the team finish ahead of the Rangers. Watch.
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on May 15, 2008 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot picking up Troy Percival
Effectively giving them a closer, AND a second (awesome) pitching coach.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Rays so bad compared to Devil Rays. Name changes always suck. I want my Washington Bullets back.
by Edgar for Pres on May 14, 2008 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They should have just called themselves the Tampa Rays
by Robert on May 14, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the Tampa Bays
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
by I'm NOT Corco on May 14, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rays are the early 1990s Mariners (with this year being the 1991 M's)
Dome. Years of futility with no winning seasons. Indifferent fan base. New owners revitalizing the team. New logo and uniforms. Stable of top draft picks finally panning out.
by G_ on May 14, 2008 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the new logo and uniforms happened in 1993.
At least the introduction of the compass and color teal.
by Wilder. on May 15, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teal- the most unfortunate thing to come out of the 90's
The one reason why no matter how much I love my Hornets, I’ll never buy any of their merchendise.
by thewyrm on May 15, 2008 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but the yellow ones look like easter eggs
I keep hearing rumblings that the Hornets are switching their uniforms around next year, I hope to god they are. They switched the bee logo to be more New Orleans-ish already.
Old Logo:![]()
New Logo:![]()
One thing is for sure, Hornets fans hate Oklahoma just as much as Sonics fans so at least when we beat the crap out of them you guys can take some solace in that.
by thewyrm on May 15, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see if we can get Oklahoma to secede from the Union or something
that might be kinda cool to have a separate country surrounded on every border by the US
by seattlebruin on May 15, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for the Sonics
‘cause I cheer for them and the Seahawks if their games don’t impact the Hornets or Saints respectively. I loved OKC’s “No really, we just want to be a good host for the Hornets while their city gets back on their feet. We have no intention of trying to keep them. . .” Then they immediately set about stealing the Sonics when New Orleans insisted they return and honor their lease.
by thewyrm on May 15, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or San Marino.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on May 15, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to it.
Every. Fuckin. Time.
by qrsouther on May 15, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Landlocked state?
Almost what Oregon was. A 52-48 vote claimed Oregon a US state, not a Canadian province, way back in 1848.
by qrsouther on May 15, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
I root for the M’s. The Rays are fun to watch, a cool story, and it’d be awesome to see them beat out both the Yanks and Sox, but I don’t get the infatuation with them on this site.
by speedomike on May 15, 2008 5:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
do you grasp reading?
That was the whole point of this diary!
by Matthew on May 15, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understood the point
And I thought it was well-written and thought out, so I apologize for making it seem like I was dismissing it. I can agree with everything you said about the Rays. But, unless it somehow helps the M’s, I’m not going to “root” for another team. I’m not going to say I “love” another team. If you want to, cool, but that’s not for me. That’s all I was saying.
by speedomike on May 15, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your post implies your subject is incorrect.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on May 15, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that
I tend to not think when I respond on message boards, which gets me into trouble sometimes. So, again, I apologize to Matthew. All I’m saying is I don’t openly root for other teams unless it somehow helps my team. I’ll even root for the Yankees if it means the M’s will get into the playoffs. If Jeff, Matthew, etc. want to root for the Rays-cool. I’m just not going to.
by speedomike on May 15, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matthew's post was titled: "why i LOVE the rays"
Speedomike was just saying he can’t quite feel the love.
by johnbai on May 15, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I speak for both Matthew and myself
when I say that the Mariners are the long-time wife to which we’re inextricably committed, and the Rays are the hot secretary after whom we lust.
by Jeff on May 15, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's ok to look, but not to touch
...wait does this mean I have two wives?
by JI on May 15, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you're on a diet
Doesn’t mean you can’t look at the menu…
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter where you get the appetite
As long as you always eat at home.
by Sec 108 on May 15, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's time I came clean.
I know you’ve probably noticed me being more distant recently. You’ve complained that I haven’t been as emotionally involved. Well, it’s true. I’ve been seeing someone else. All those times that I’ve been working late, I’ve actually been watching the Rays games and I have to say, the excitement of that has been leaving me drained. Look, it’s not you. It’s me. I just feel stuck in a rut. We go through the same routine every day for what feels like the last few years. We never do anything fun anymore, it’s just the same ol thing and I know that’s enough for you, but it’s not enough for me anymore. I want more. I want the spark again and the Rays just give that to me. I feel young again. There’s a spring in my step. I was smiling yesterday! I’m…I’m sorry, but I just need some time apart. I’m not sure what I want anymore. I’m so confused, but I have to see this out. Until then, I’ll still be around if you want to talk and I promise to take care of the dog, but I just have to get away for awhile.
by Matthew on May 15, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
You're welcome at the Rays house at anytime, but she didn't have to know.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 15, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 15, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This needs a badass caption
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on May 15, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am recommending this close-to-home confession
by Jeff on May 15, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps if Jeff had that spring in his step a few years ago
he could have avoided that sofa of his.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to name names
but maybe if a certain someone paid a little more attention than a certain other person wouldn’t have become so unmotivated to look good and now that the yet another person is involved, things are much more lean, if you know what I mean.
by Matthew on May 15, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christ do we always have to argue about this in public?
These people are my friends too.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LL reality show!
It fills the void in my hollow life.
by JI on May 15, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coach isnt nearly real enough to be on a reality show.
I’m thinking maybe TGIF.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Coach or Corco is my secret LL lover
I’m gonna be pissed.
by JI on May 15, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We hired the same writers as Family Guy.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll be out of material halfway through the season.
by JI on May 15, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why we have manetees
There’s a season 4 story arch that involves you going stereo shopping with Duran Duran.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That reminds me of the time I was on a pirate ship with Ron Howard...
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on May 16, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm not the one who got drunk and trashed Chad's place.
You may think they’re your friends, but you’ve made your share of enemies too.
by Matthew on May 15, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if you hadn't been so quick to throw Chad under the bus to avoid me finding out about you two
I might not have gone on my rampage in the first place.
PS You take something that means something to me and you can be damn sure I’ll take something right back. I think its time Graham tells you our little secret.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose I should let you in on something too
Josh Brown didn’t really leave because he got a new job in Saint Louis. We just felt it would be the easiest reason for you to accept. He’s moving in with us.
by Matthew on May 15, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect you'll soon find out why I nicknamed him Brownie
And for the record, Erik Bedard is really good at a lot of things.
by Robert on May 15, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and for the record
Dreamboat likes stroganoff hamburger helper
by JI on May 15, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You already admitted you replied without thinking
so why are you surprised you got a snide response?
by Milendriel on May 15, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly..a little
i don’t see how what i originally wrote would justify a “do you grasp reading” reply from a moderator of the site. i mean, i still think lookout landing is the best mariners site and maybe the best blog in existence. but part of that is how cool the mods usually are. so, yeah it’s a little surprising. but, whatever it’s cool. i’m a big boy and can handle it.
GO M”s!!!!! (and Rays if it so pleases you)
by speedomike on May 15, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't take it personally
your the victim of displaced grumpiness.
by johnbai on May 16, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're all assholes
Don’t take it too seriously
by Graham on May 16, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not wanting to have anyone jump on me
but due to Jeff Smulyan I would prefer the Rays have at least 15 years of losing seasons, just because we did. Don’t forget the White Sox and Giants also barely escaped Tampa Bay’s greasy, outstretched fingers.
by shinallsrevenge on May 15, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm more for Baltimore
You and your stat-nerds can have Tampa. Yeah, yeah, they’ll probably kick tail and take names. I won’t deny that they’re the absolute sleeper of the team this season to watch, and that they’re a great, fun team to follow.
But being a die-hard M’s fan, and for reasons most of you know, it’s also logical that I’m drawn to Baltimore. I mean—a shitty front office with players that are playing over their heads yet not quite good enough to win the division? If that’s not the east coast version of the Mariners, I don’t know what team is.
Yeah, it’s definitely more fun to follow the Rays—and they’re much, much, MUCH more likely to take the division or the wild card than the O’s. But I’m not sure I can know how to be a Rays’ fan. It’s too… Different…
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on May 15, 2008 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Orioles have a pretty good closer, too
by seattlebruin on May 15, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that word reached me, too...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on May 15, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Rays for several reasons
But the most important reason is this:
There would be nothing…..short of the Mariners winning a WS…more satisfying than seeing the Yankees and Red Sox shut out of the playoffs, this year and/or for many years to come. Imagine the panic at ESPN when they have to fill all of that airtime.
by OlSalty on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just because they suck doesn't mean they won't be on TV
by seattlebruin on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd have a hard time talking about them as much as they do now, at least
Although, I wouldn’t put it past them to completely ignore the Rays in favor of those two even after it becomes clear they’re the best team in the division.
Either way, just hearing the wailing cries of Yankees fans shut out of the postseason over and over and over again would be music to my ears. I love it when that sense of entitlement of theirs goes unfulfilled.
by OlSalty on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason: they just took 3 of 4 from the Yankees
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the Rays get rid of all of their homicidal maniacs or just Dukes?
Or was he the only prospect who was crazy and did so much that it seemed like multiple people?
by Jed MC on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dukes was the only homicidal one.
Delmon just divided the clubhouse into “Delmon” and “rest” and he was always sticking up for Dukes, despite the fact that Dukes rarely stood up for Delmon—of course Dukes wasn’t around from June on, so that has something to do with it.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 15, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're 2-0, we're 0-2 since the invasion.
Farewell AL East title. Farewell Strasburg.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 18, 2008 8:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can borrow our unwashed thong.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on May 18, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't even a strike.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 19, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This card is almost great but utterly aggravating.
Because for fuck’s sake can someone PLEASE CORRECT THE QUOTE? There’s a missing word there…can’t somebody fix that up?
by esoteric on May 23, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
run the bases better
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 19, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our interesting fans make up for that.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 19, 2008 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we could blame our losses on Furries.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on May 20, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no you don't.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dFKdUVsjUqY&feature=related
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're not dressed up in a bear suit you're doing it wrong.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't wanna be right.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are hot girls in those fox suits right?
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by JI on May 20, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially around the 1:15 range.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have found your rally dino.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to .gif it.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you DL you tube videos?
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best way to go would be to get a screen recorder
but the quality might not be good because they don’t do enough FPS. Either that or you can screenshot like crazy.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are ways.
Try here or here or this FF add-on
by Matthew on May 20, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes up for your poor House%
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by JI on May 20, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
@#(%*&@#(*%
I still haven’t watched it yet. Goddamn soccer. Goddamn House moving to Mondays. It better go back to Tuesday this fall or I’ll have to quit soccer.
by Matthew on May 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just leave work right now and go home and watch it.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good man.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell them you have cramps
that always works for me
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It helps that you look bloated though.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you calling me fat?
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most amazing
video ever!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on May 20, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could use a dubbing of Benny Hill music
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
open the Benny Hill musoic in one window
and mute the dancing in the window on top
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ITS GONE NOOOOOOOOO
FUCK YOU SBN 2.0 YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO FIX THIS
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOW DRB GETS TO EXPERIENCE "QUESTION?"
If you guys haven’t do read this and try not to laugh out loud at work.
by seattlebruin on May 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently he deleted it himself. SBN is flawed.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you missed it but I went apeshit over this
when Question vanished and the tech monkeys said they were working on this.
It’s a bad idea to give the power to take their ball and go home. Once you humiliate yourself your shame belongs to everyone.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
here is JI going crazy at lovitt because F’nA’s deleted the greatest diary of all time
by seattlebruin on May 20, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's less funny when the asshattery being linked is your own.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you had that ready to go.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like saying you'd prefer a 39 year old Griffey Jr. to a 44 year old Bonds?
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 20, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not quite as shameful when everyone else isn't 100% sure you're a douche.
still needs more Bonds
by JI on May 20, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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