5/13: Open Game Thread, Part 2
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 6:46 PM PDT
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Dammit Jeff, cut me off while replaying about the Johjima thing
We analyze every weakness of the team in the (vain) hope that we can somehow help make this team better. This seems like an area where our particular expertise of modern analysis would answer a question that seems to be gaining way too much momentum amongst the club.
Even if all it does is prove that Washburn is full of shit, I think it’d be a worth while endeavor.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions
I would have to go through every game individually
I am not going to do that. I’ll leave it to somebody with better database ability.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I had those abilities
I’d do it myself. I wonder if we can convince Josh Kalk to modify his algorithm so that it’ll differentiate between catchers as well.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You are overthinking this one Jeff
Year – Team ERA when Johjima Catches – Total Team ERA
2006 – 4.81 – 4.60
2007 – 5.03 – 4.73
2008 – 4.78 – 4.50
I know ERA is a poor tool in general, but this is a trend.
This means absolutely nothing without knowing the ratio of starters caught
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You can take that position and I would not argue.
I will just say I have never seen a worse catcher since Mackey Sasser.
ERA is a poor tool in general
No better then offensive stat lines. And it still doesn’t identify the problem.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh for fuck's sake
They’re going to give him a Sac Fly for hitting a LINE DRIVE…
KILL THE SAC FLY RULE! It’s retarded!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions
So it should be a RBI out?
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on May 13, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that would make it more likely that we would score
or at least more likely than you will score for the next 3 months,
I wonder what Steve Irwin would think about this
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not able to think because he's dead. I swam with sting rays once
Not a big deal. Steve Irwin was just a giant pussy
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
KENJI!!!
PULLING THE POWER PITCH!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
Well, for now.
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Washburn sucks all the time...
Kenji does sporadically
Percival blew it!
I fucking hate you Mariners
wlad walk!
He’s becoming our very own three true outcome guy.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT reply actions
He's workin on it
Dug himself into a hole with the home runs and strikeouts is all.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Where was that last pitch to Wlad?
ESPN Gametracker has it almost right down the middle.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
Ump blinked
It rode way back in from where it started.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameday had it at the letters
High strike could have been called. No biggie.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The strike zone hasn't touched the letters since like 1950
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the rules are the rules man
Just because nobody calls them…
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Young guys clog up the basepaths!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Amazing bizarro world isn't it?
Wlad has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Clement has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Yuni wont swing unless it is out of the strike zone.
I hate this team sometimes.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair
The three pitches to Yuni were probably strikes anyway.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
k, Raul must die..seriously
I fucking hate you Mariners
I tend to think everytime something like that happens
Geoff Baker winces
I fucking hate you Mariners
How about
“Coach Owens Bad”
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on May 13, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Cairo
HIT THE DIRT! KENJI’S THROWING TO FIRST!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:02 PM PDT reply actions
The Orioles are trying to blow it against Boston.
Damnit.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Man, neither corner is getting called today.
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last night i was happy i did not hear the fox baseball theme..
they are playing it tonight. i want to choke whoever decided to play that.
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
Jesus Christ blue
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply actions
COME ON IWAMURA!
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
That game is a lot louder than this game
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome.
Got gameday going on.
....can you watch 2 mlb.tv broadcasts at once?
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Why do you wait so long Mac
Get a fucking pitcher up!
I fucking hate you Mariners
No one was even up until that walk
I fucking hate you Mariners
Damn.
Going to extras in TB.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Not as much as the rest of you, because I have my 2nd team.
But they are the DBacks expansion brothers. And a majority of us want to face them in the World Series because it would be awesome. So I’m rooting for them in that regard.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
cool, I personally don't care about any other teams
Can’t root for any team but the home team
Nice...Felix struggling with command
Small strike-zone and u call for a pitch out?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Why pitchout with two outs and a pitcher struggling with his command?
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Felix is done
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions
I just opened an old school box of animal crackers
So far this box has been infinitely more satisfying than anything involving the Mariners has been lately.
The artist formerly known as Katal
Hershey's Cookie and Cream bars
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Peanut Butter M&Ms
I fucking hate you Mariners
Makes a great FTL term
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I had A&W Root Beer and Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast
It’s what Randy Johnson has before every start. I’m sure of it.
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think animal crackers make people think that all animals taste the same.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't sleep well last night
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
South Park...Simpsons...Futurama...
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that concept
Too DEEP for you?
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
112 pitches for Felix.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:13 PM PDT reply actions
Let's give him the ol' Dusty Baker treatment.
He should be able to go 7, minimum.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Ruh-roh
Dusty Baker treatment…holy crap…Miguel Cairo is Mac’s Corey Patterson.
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by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
RANDY JOHNSON JUST CAME WITHIN INCHES OF A HOMER!!!
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Wouldn't being taller...
...give you a larger strike zone? Therefore you’ve got more real estate to protect, if you feel what I’m throwing down…
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by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
GODDAMN FOX BASEBALL THEME
Quit playing it Rangers organization..
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
They should just play more celebratory Pantera
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
or a simple organ flourish.
are they reminding the fans they could have stayed home and watched for free?
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford, Upton, Pena due up!
I fucking hate you Mariners
C'mon Adrian.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM PDT reply actions
Gameday is freaking out on me.
Apparently there were 223 pitches in the Suzuki at bat. Upon glancing over it, I see that the pitcher’s fastball ranges from 86 to 95 mph.
Too many puppies....
God damnit
25% LD rate, shitty BABIP.
Adrian Beltre is the epitome of unlucky!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions
new here (m's fan from ny)
and i know this has already been said, but why the f is cairo batting 2nd? seriously
You picked a bad time to join us here
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Beltre should just retire
Unlucky son of a bitch.
I fucking hate you Mariners
What will Red do?
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford singles. No outs.
Baltimore in the 9th with a 5-4 lead.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
From Stone's Griffey article
Griffey is earning $12.5 million this season, the last year of the nine-year, $116.5 million contract he signed after the Reds acquired him from Seattle after the 1999 season. Some think Griffey would make any trade conditional on his new team picking up his $16.5 million option for 2009 — a deal-breaker for the Mariners, one would hope.
Surely Bavasi can’t be that stupid? 16.5 million??
Lance Berkman
is on pace to hit more extra-base hits than anyone in history.
Not that I think he’ll do it, but man, what a start to the season. Six steals, too.
Oh sure ump
Now those are strikes….
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions
Baltimore wins!
Rays tied for 1st!
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
That's so awesome
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
There's probably more,
I just got impatient and prt sc’ned it after pitch 80 something… if you look closely the last pitch is 229
Also, I see Rupe managed to throw all of those pitches
yet only have 29 total!
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
Why is Crawford still on first?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Why do we suck so much more than last year?
Is it all luck? Our rotation got better, our defense didn’t really change, our offense got slightly worse… we should be about as good of a team this year.
This is why Pythagorean record isn't a great predictor of next season success
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what scares the living bejesus out of me
The fact that during last years Reds series, Ichiro says that he respects Griffey so much that he would gladly let him take over for him in center.
It would help us win the Strasburg chase.
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not? I thought it was? RA/RS?
Don’t you mean that actual record isn’t a great predictor of next season success?
Like Griffey!!
ZOMG!!!!!!! Best EVERZ
I fucking hate you Mariners
He'll have Hoffman's saves record eventually.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Damn straight.
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Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
They would also be better if they didn't suck so badly
you know if you take out all the losses, we’re 15-0
by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Clement and Cairo have matching .154 averages.
Although I hate Cairo much more.
Clement at least walks a lot.
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This is true.
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm impressed J-Lo
I fucking hate you Mariners
The Penultimate Fan of Jose Lopez says
GO LOAFIE!!
God damn it Hamilton
Why didn’t we trade Morrow for you?
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What just happened?
It looks like Kenji’s dot is over the fense
Hey so what did I miss?
Oh the offense is MIA again.
Floyd base hit.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Gomes pinch runs and does!
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Oh hey he's healthy again
I thought I felt cold
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
He’s been fairly unlucky so far this season.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he was unlucky.
He was temporarily terrible. He’s better now.
...and now I'm here
His ball in play data was consistent with what he always did
Results weren’t the same. That’s generally more “unlucky” then anything else.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wilkerson and Vidro
Johjima was unlucky.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
BALK!!!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
SUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKK
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Why are we in a CAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
RAYS WIN RAYS WIN!!!
GABE GROSS WALKOFF HIT!
First place!!
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
I'm happy that the Rays are in first, but rather
it’d be the Mariners. So I’m happy and sad.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
Way too awesome
dare I say, more awesome than last night’s House?
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
RAYYYYYYYYYYYYS
I fucking hate you Mariners
Wlad just missed a couple of meatballs.
Such is life.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
"How much fun is life as a Ray right now?"
“Tell you what, it doesn’t suck.”
Jonny Gomes is too awesome.
Why is Wade Boggs' son bunting?
Would Wade Boggs bunt? That’s what I thought
He did?
Labored quite a bit actually. He wasn’t great at all, but he wasn’t horrifying either.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean sarcasm?
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you mean sarcasm.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh..
That’s sarcasm…
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Looked it up, Per WIkipedia
Verbal irony, including sarcasm
Verbal irony is distinguished from situational irony and dramatic irony in that it is produced intentionally by speakers. For instance, if a speaker exclaims, "I’m not upset!" but reveals an upset emotional state through her voice while truly trying to claim she’s not upset, it would not be verbal irony just by virtue of its verbal manifestation (it would, however, be situational irony). But if the same speaker said the same words and intended to communicate that she was upset by claiming she was not, the utterance would be verbal irony. This distinction gets at an important aspect of verbal irony: speakers communicate implied propositions that are intentionally contradictory to the propositions contained in the words themselves. There are examples of verbal irony that do not rely on saying the opposite of what one means, and there are cases where all the traditional criteria of irony exist and the utterance is not ironic.
Ironic similes are a form of verbal irony where a speaker does intend to communicate the opposite of what they mean. For instance, the following explicit similes have the form of a statement that means P(X) but which conveys the meaning not P:
- as funny as cancer
- as clear as mud
- as pleasant as a root-canal
The irony is recognizable in each case only by using stereotypical knowledge of the source concepts (e.g., bowling balls, sledgehammers) to detect an incongruity.
A fair amount of confusion has surrounded the issue regarding the relationship between verbal irony and sarcasm, and psychology researchers have addressed the issue directly (e.g, Lee & Katz, 1998). For example, ridicule is an important aspect of sarcasm, but not verbal irony in general. By this account, sarcasm is a particular kind of personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons that incorporates verbal irony. For example, a person reports to her friend that rather than going to a medical doctor to treat her ovarian cancer, she has decided to see a spiritual healer instead. In response her friend says sarcastically, “Great idea! I hear they do fine work!” The friend could have also replied with any number of ironic expressions that should not be labeled as sarcasm exactly, but still have many shared elements with sarcasm.
Research shows that most instances of verbal irony are considered to be sarcastic, suggesting that the term sarcasm is more widely used than its technical definition suggests it should be (Bryant & Fox Tree, 2002; Gibbs, 2000). Some psycholinguistic theorists suggest that sarcasm (“Great idea!”, “I hear they do fine work.”), hyperbole (“That’s the best idea I have heard in years!”), understatement (“Sure, what the hell, it’s only cancer…”), rhetorical questions (“What, does your spirit have cancer?”), double entendre (“I’ll bet if you do that, you’ll be communing with spirits in no time…”) and jocularity (“Get them to fix your bad back while you’re at it.”) should all be considered forms of verbal irony (Gibbs, 2000). The differences between these tropes can be quite subtle, and relate to typical emotional reactions of listeners, and the rhetorical goals of the speakers. Regardless of the various ways folk taxonomies categorize figurative language types, people in conversation are attempting to decode speaker intentions and discourse goals, and are not generally identifying, by name, the kinds of tropes used.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It's irony. Verbal irony. Look it up
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, okay.
I’ll look it up. Damn.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Define:Sarcasm
“the use of verbal irony in which a person appears to be praising something but is actually insulting it: eg, "She’s a real winner!"”
It’s sarcasm, because it is verbal irony.
...and now I'm here
Sarcasm, then, is a branch of verbal irony.
Therefore it’s both
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fine.
But saying “slander in print form” can be corrected to say: “That’s libel.”
...and now I'm here
True, but that doesn't make the former wrong, which is what everyone was saying.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yet still correctable.
How ironic.
...and now I'm here
It is correctable, but everyone was implying that irony was wrong.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It is wrong
The particular piece of “verbal irony” has more characteristics of sarcasm.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It isn't wrong. That was verbal irony.
It fits verbal irony completely
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
How?
It’s a personal criticism of a person or group of persons. It fits the very definition of sarcasm over verbal irony.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You say over verbal irony, which means you believe that irony still fits it, but
sarcasm fits it better. Therefore, chinn was correct in saying irony, but not as correct as he could have been. He did not need correcting
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes he did.
Irony, by itself, was incorrect. VERBAL irony is only partially correct. Sarcasm was the most correct term and answer.
Thus, he was wrong. It’s like saying that Kool Aid is water. Yes it has water in it, but water is not Kool Aid.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No, verbal irony is a branch of irony.
It’s like saying “Kenji Johjima got out.” Verbal irony would be “Kenji Johjima grounded out.” Sarcasm would be “Kenji Johjima bunted out to the third baseman.” All three are correct, but the third is the most specific
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That's awfully loose logic
Why isn’t the most accurate term not the correct one then?
More specifically, why the need to defend when you’re not using the most accurate term?
Inaccurate is inaccurate.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You're mixing precision and accuracy.
Chinn’s choice was accurate, but imprecise. Please let it go.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
This whole subthread was based on retarded semantics.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
What do Jewish people have to do with this?
...and now I'm here
Probably nothing.
But I’m sure they’ll find a way to make it about them, won’t they?
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent suggestion.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Exactly.
That’s why we’re moving on.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice try.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yuni....
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:46 PM PDT reply actions
Actually he's 6'1"
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It's cool I'm 3 inches shorter than Miguel Cairo.
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
BRING RICHIE BACK
Tall first basemen are good defenders
NEEDS LESS SUCK
Vidro has given him Veteran Guidance
“No no, if you aren’t puking, you aren’t full, keeping eat them.”
Jesus christ
how many times do i need to hear that Vazquez spent 17 games with the M’s in ‘01.
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
Wlad...
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:51 PM PDT reply actions
This team is intent on getting a good draft pick.
NEEDS LESS SUCK
Someone should photoshop Braindead Meme on this pic
(I am sorry if this is offensive to anyone)
by Fin on May 13, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I know it was like 5 years ago
But I was using “too soon” as like… maybe kinda harsh. I dunno, it seemed a little bit low. I wasn’t offended or anything, I was just thinking someone else could be.
Like a week after Schaivo died
We had a move called “The Schaivo” in the joke male-dance team routine and openly and sarcastically dedicated the dance to her at my high school. No one cared. Is Lynnwood high school soul less?
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Lynnwood is.
So we can only assume.
...and now I'm here
Nobody here cares if somebody else is offended.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
We get offended by stupidity.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
And European cigarrettes.
...and now I'm here
If it's something that happened, it's okay (Schiavo, 9/11, Utah miners, whatever)
If it’s something inherent, then it’s not (race, orientation). Unless it’s retardation, in which case it’s okay.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you know where you are?
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Once about a year ago I saw that someone had changed her Wikipedia page
to just say ‘pwned’ about 200 times
That was COMPLETELY unnecessary
The () part that is.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Bum bum bum bum
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So..2009..can we have a baseball draft party!?!
I fucking hate you Mariners
San Diego lost
So if we can hold on to the loss, we take over the #1 spot.
Felix not doing well, Mariners not hitting, getting robbed of base hits,
Olivo playing first and batting second, Yuni sucking at defense, Clement and Wlad not doing well, Wlad playing bad defense, Vasquez owning us.
So much fail…
I have no idea why I keep confusing those two names
Maybe because they both suck?
Hi, this is Ken Griffey Jr.
Lets play Major League Baseball.
Can i get a hot dog over here?
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
John Jaha just hit 86 Home Runs for me.
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
What do the Mariners have in common with black people?
They both get beat by Texas Rangers
by Robert on May 13, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Is that what Jeff was saying?
I’m confused.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wanted to use the .gif
I don’t get offended by anything.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I thought.
Especially since the original joke wasn’t even racist. Just race-related.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh don't be a flaming fa....
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Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
DSFARGEG
Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!
by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know why but that reminds me of this.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameday disagrees but that looked very, very, very low.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Hm, looked way lower.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not doubting you.
I’m just a little surprised.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
In case you're curious
PITCHf/x has an error of 2.2 inches.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That's ridiculous
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we gonna get a summary post of the summit?
Or are you able to share any of that?
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Most of the talks were way too smart for me
however, if you’re so inclined, you can download the presentations here. I’m glad I went, but it’s been a while since I felt like the dumbest guy in the room.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how they can't use this sort of technology for bats.
I created programs in HS that did pattern recognition on live video. We recreated a pitch f/x style system (not nearly as complicated) for tennis balls, and then converted it to the rackets with limited success. If we were able to post a camera directly above like they do in baseball, I could easily see getting swing speed, angle, rotational axis, etc.
Could you imagine being able to solve the “Clement Bat Speed” controversy once and for all? Not to mention the ability to fine-tune swings at early stages in a career? It would make the “PED Spike” look like a speedbump.
That's for batted balls.
Any rumors on the swing end of it?
Damn.
It would be like the tag tracking they use for video game capture, but for every single AB ever. Just think about the video game realism, for starters. I wonder if they have any money to throw at a lapsed programmer to buy HD cams and a fibre channel array for development?
Speaking of video game realism
the SportVision people are talking to game developers about involving PITCHf/x. If they arrive at an agreement, you won’t be hitting any more video game fastballs. You’ll be hitting real ones.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That rocks.
Although I think the batting realism needs to catch up first.
Is that verbal irony?
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That looked reallllyyy low
Screw you Guardado
Why do we keep getting owned by ex-Mariners?
Wow.
We just got owned by Guardado… I think it’s time to take a little break.
Hey Eddie...
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions
This team actually might make me puke.
Guardado striking out Ichiro to end the game on the night after Vasquez hits a walk-off against Morrow in the 11th…
What the hell is happening?
Griffey trade:
Will be for the draft pick of 2009.
...and now I'm here
Damn good thing
That’s not possible.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A PTBNL would never be a first round pick.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes it can.
But he has to have been picked first.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
In other words, the Billy Beane method
Selected Jeremy Bonderman in the first round but was used as the PTBNL in a trade later, but he couldn’t be named as the PTBNL until after a year from his draft date.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So that's how he got rid of Bonderman
never knew that. Was it in the Weaver deal?
by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
There’s a bit about it in Moneyball
by Graham MacAree on May 14, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I knew he drafted him in Moneyball and that was how I knew about the Weaver deal
but I always assumed he just stole Weaver from the Tigers and passed him to NY for Lilly(?)
by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, I'm confused though
The book depicts Beane as being extremely upset about the pick – was he always picked to be a PTBNL or did Beane just decide to get rid of him as soon as his scouts drafted him on accident?
by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Not now.
In order for that to work, the PTBNL has to already be on your team. If it’s a fresh draftee, you have to wait an entire year before you can name him the PTBNL.
Thus, even if it were possible at this point (and it isn’t), the Reds wouldn’t get anybody until 2010.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Kerney?
Needs more Lawrence Jackson.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Tatupu looks drunk.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Meh.
At least it beats using Babs at that position.
Only a real futbol team can save us
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
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...and now I'm here
butthol is fourtn
So… No.
...and now I'm here
Wait... What?
Is this some new kind of rickroll?
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It takes an enormous commitment of time to keep up with all the inside jokes.
I should probably stop trying, before the rest of my life starts to crumble around me. I’m just waiting for the day I see one of the regulars around here on Intervention.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You owe Al Gore a comission for that
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what's ironic?
Rain on your wedding day.
by eponymous_coward on May 13, 2008 8:12 PM PDT reply actions
I intentionally made that mistake to heighten the absurdity
and, obviously, you didn’t get that…
That depends
The middle of this decade? Not too kind to the Blazers.
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by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The Blazers seem to be doing just fine
they’re probably one of the three or four best run teams in the NBA
by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Also:
So, that means we’ve lost series to the Rangers AND the Orioles.
And yet, oddly enough, people seem to think this team is still capable of contending.
I’m guessing we’ll be cured of that by the All-Star break
by eponymous_coward on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions
Didn't we say in the same situation a week and a half ago?
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
1-2 dropkick
I fucking hate you Mariners
They were talking about Iron Maiden on the Diamondbacks broadcast.
....ah…..too…much….awesome….in…..one….place….overload overload overload
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
I get the sense from Mark Grace that he has low beer standards
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Alot of the times he annoys the hell out of me.
And then something he says something totally awesome. Like talking about BABIP or Win Expectancy, or referencing dppb.org(which him and Sutton both read).
Unfortunatly, there’s alot more of the former than the latter.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
errr sometimes
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Yikes
Make that dbbp.org
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
I imagine there isn't much that's more interesting
than positive psychotherapy in Bulgaria.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
How can you tell?
Up on your Bulgarian, are you? Or do you mean less interesting that Mark Grace would be speaking of it?
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Society for Positive Psychotherapy in Bulgaria ( DPPB ) is the third in size (with Germany and Russia taking the first two places ) among the National Societies within the framework of ICPP and EFCPP . It was established in 1993 and registered as a non-profit organization on 18.11.1993.
In its systematic activities SPPB corresponds to Bulgaria ’ s current needs for qualified psychotherapists and the universal accessibility to psychotherapeutical help.
Positive Psychotherapy as a therapeutical method is the fourth biggest in Germany ( in terms of popularity among patients and remuneration by the German social security system ). The method has been pioneered by Prof. Dr.med. Nossrat Peseschkian , who was born in Iran, but has been working and living in Germany since 1954 . After graduation, he has specialized in the fields of Psychiatry and Psychoanalyses in Germany, Switzerland and the USA.
The method of Positive Psychotherapy was introduced in Germany in 1968 and since then has achieved worldwide acknowledgement. Over 60 independent Centers of Positive Psychotherapy are currently functioning in more than 20 countries in Europe , Asia , North America and Africa. They are all part of the International Centers for Positive Psychotherapy ( ICPP ) network and European Federation of Centers for Positive Psychotherapy (EFCPP ) based in Wiesbaden ( Germany ), and through them – of the European Wide Accrediting Organization ( EWAO ) and the European Association for Psychotherapy . ( EAP ).
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Fascinating.
Third largest, really? In the whole ICPP framework? That’s impressive.
Can’t argue with that.
Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?
by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Now give that a Mark Grace voiceover
breathtaking.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Randy Johnson wins #287.
And has 4648 strikeouts. Needs 25 to pass Clemens.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert
Maybe we should kidnap Felix
and say that he won’t come back if the Mariners don’t get better.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
[looks around]
no one here…
hopefully my fucking computer is working now
I figured it out
FelixS and ErikS are pitching now. :(
by eponymous_coward on May 13, 2008 10:11 PM PDT reply actions
Huh. King Felix thinks accountability is for sissies and Canadians
Or so Geoff Baker perceives this…
”...Hernandez, unlike Ibanez, again did his best to avoid the media for as long as he could. He’s been doing it all week, since helping to ignite that brawl with the Rangers. This time, he ignored a media relations staffer’s repeated, polite requests to come talk, purposely hanging out in an off-limits area for 45 minutes after the game until all but a Seattle radio reporter had left. Writers have deadlines and pitchers are made well aware of them and usually come out to speak quickly unless they are receiving treatment. Media members will rarely linger in a clubhouse more than a half-hour after a game. Players don’t like it. Neither do we.
But Hernandez was being purposely difficult, making a team employee chase him around. He did the same stuff to other employees in spring training and, I’ve got to admit, it bugs me to see a 22-year-old allowed to do that. Bugs me that anyone would, especially putting out employees of his team doing their jobs. His team, not mine. I know how much talent Hernandez has, but he has accomplished very little in this game.”
Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack
I really could care less.
So long as he goes out to the mound and does his thing, he could beat up every reporter during post-game and I won’t give a rat’s ass.
Oh shut the fuck up Baker.
I’m tired of your fucking shit.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
1998 Expansion Teams Reign Supreme!
At least we still have Larry Stone
who gave props to the USSM on his spot with Groz and Gas today. Pretty much manned up and said that Dave and Derek got this one right.
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