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Troy Percival time!

I feel dirty rooting for him.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What is making him so good this year?

I mean, wasn’t he completely done-finished-through?

by marinator on May 13, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His supposed change up

although I think its smoke and mirrors.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 13, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit Jeff, cut me off while replaying about the Johjima thing

We analyze every weakness of the team in the (vain) hope that we can somehow help make this team better. This seems like an area where our particular expertise of modern analysis would answer a question that seems to be gaining way too much momentum amongst the club.

Even if all it does is prove that Washburn is full of shit, I think it’d be a worth while endeavor.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would have to go through every game individually

I am not going to do that. I’ll leave it to somebody with better database ability.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I had those abilities

I’d do it myself. I wonder if we can convince Josh Kalk to modify his algorithm so that it’ll differentiate between catchers as well.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are overthinking this one Jeff

Year – Team ERA when Johjima Catches – Total Team ERA
2006 – 4.81 – 4.60
2007 – 5.03 – 4.73
2008 – 4.78 – 4.50

I know ERA is a poor tool in general, but this is a trend.

by Sec 108 on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ERA is a poor tool in general

No better then offensive stat lines. And it still doesn’t identify the problem.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Run?

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh for fuck's sake

They’re going to give him a Sac Fly for hitting a LINE DRIVE…

KILL THE SAC FLY RULE! It’s retarded!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that would make it more likely that we would score

or at least more likely than you will score for the next 3 months,

by Robert on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

>:O

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I guess

Cindy/Malkin Vs. Zetterberg/Datsyuk could be “fun”

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on May 13, 2008 6:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KENJI!!!

PULLING THE POWER PITCH!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joh Joh

PowerPitch

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on May 13, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joh also saved Felix.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, for now.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Matsui :(

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 13, 2008 6:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Percival blew it!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wlad walk!

He’s becoming our very own three true outcome guy.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's workin on it

Dug himself into a hole with the home runs and strikeouts is all.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back-to-Back! Wlad and Clement!

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 6:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clement!!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 13, 2008 6:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love how impatient Yuni is.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 6:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing bizarro world isn't it?

Wlad has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Clement has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Yuni wont swing unless it is out of the strike zone.

I hate this team sometimes.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes?

Doesn’t sound frequent enough

by ningwers on May 13, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

The three pitches to Yuni were probably strikes anyway.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling it

weak pop out to second.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 13, 2008 6:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Betancourt=Fail.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 6:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

raul

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Laird for 1B!

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Raul is very bad at defense.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL Cairo

HIT THE DIRT! KENJI’S THROWING TO FIRST!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Orioles are trying to blow it against Boston.

Damnit.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, neither corner is getting called today.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

last night i was happy i did not hear the fox baseball theme..

they are playing it tonight. i want to choke whoever decided to play that.

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh block the plate Kenji.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

COME ON IWAMURA!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

Got gameday going on.

....can you watch 2 mlb.tv broadcasts at once?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you wait so long Mac

Get a fucking pitcher up!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Me, Vazquez=hate.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn.

Going to extras in TB.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not as much as the rest of you, because I have my 2nd team.

But they are the DBacks expansion brothers. And a majority of us want to face them in the World Series because it would be awesome. So I’m rooting for them in that regard.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool, I personally don't care about any other teams

Can’t root for any team but the home team

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice...Felix struggling with command

Small strike-zone and u call for a pitch out?

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why pitchout with two outs and a pitcher struggling with his command?

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix is done

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just opened an old school box of animal crackers

So far this box has been infinitely more satisfying than anything involving the Mariners has been lately.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I had A&W Root Beer and Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast

It’s what Randy Johnson has before every start. I’m sure of it.

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated Open Season.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh…..yeah…..we don’t…..

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way

The lion clearly tastes better than the elephant.

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on May 13, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that concept

Too DEEP for you?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That dog looks ridiculous

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on May 13, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's give him the ol' Dusty Baker treatment.

He should be able to go 7, minimum.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ruh-roh

Dusty Baker treatment…holy crap…Miguel Cairo is Mac’s Corey Patterson.

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RANDY JOHNSON JUST CAME WITHIN INCHES OF A HOMER!!!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not hard when you're 6'3000".

Even if you’re a pitcher.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't being taller...

...give you a larger strike zone? Therefore you’ve got more real estate to protect, if you feel what I’m throwing down…

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That slide was retarded

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on May 13, 2008 7:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Hamilton is awesome

David Murphy is an annoying bitch

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GODDAMN FOX BASEBALL THEME

Quit playing it Rangers organization..

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or a simple organ flourish.

are they reminding the fans they could have stayed home and watched for free?

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday is freaking out on me.

Apparently there were 223 pitches in the Suzuki at bat. Upon glancing over it, I see that the pitcher’s fastball ranges from 86 to 95 mph.

Too many puppies....

by amanalone11 on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

MOTHERFUKING VAZQUEZ AND FOX BASEBALL THEME

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God damnit

25% LD rate, shitty BABIP.

Adrian Beltre is the epitome of unlucky!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck luck

NEEDS LESS SUCK

by Double06 on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I miss Kata

The artist formerly known as Katal

by Katal LM on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

poor adrian

I feel bad for him

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beltre should just retire

Unlucky son of a bitch.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What will Red do?

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crawford singles. No outs.

Baltimore in the 9th with a 5-4 lead.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From Stone's Griffey article
Griffey is earning $12.5 million this season, the last year of the nine-year, $116.5 million contract he signed after the Reds acquired him from Seattle after the 1999 season. Some think Griffey would make any trade conditional on his new team picking up his $16.5 million option for 2009 — a deal-breaker for the Mariners, one would hope.

Surely Bavasi can’t be that stupid? 16.5 million??

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lance Berkman

is on pace to hit more extra-base hits than anyone in history.

Not that I think he’ll do it, but man, what a start to the season. Six steals, too.

by Teej on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh sure ump

Now those are strikes….

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Baltimore wins!

Rays tied for 1st!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's so awesome

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aha!

me too. I hit refresh and now it just won’t load..

Too many puppies....

by amanalone11 on May 13, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aha!

take on me. take me on

by Tony S on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see Ichiro manged to hit the ball in play

eight times that AB.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's probably more,

I just got impatient and prt sc’ned it after pitch 80 something… if you look closely the last pitch is 229

by schwagnah on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I see Rupe managed to throw all of those pitches

yet only have 29 total!

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do we suck so much more than last year?

Is it all luck? Our rotation got better, our defense didn’t really change, our offense got slightly worse… we should be about as good of a team this year.

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what scares the living bejesus out of me

The fact that during last years Reds series, Ichiro says that he respects Griffey so much that he would gladly let him take over for him in center.

by Robert on May 13, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would help us win the Strasburg chase.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Griffey!!

ZOMG!!!!!!! Best EVERZ

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll have Hoffman's saves record eventually.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's easy when you take
steroids, HGH, steroids.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn straight.

Right Click-Save Image as

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

0.00 ERA.

Welcome to the one time ERA is a good indicator of pitching ability.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clement at least walks a lot.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is true.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm impressed J-Lo

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Broken bat single for Lopez, boy that's frustrating"

WE JUST LINED OUT TWICE LAST INNING YOU SPAZ

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God damn it Hamilton

Why didn’t we trade Morrow for you?

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What just happened?

It looks like Kenji’s dot is over the fense

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Floyd base hit.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Steal 2nd!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gomes pinch runs and does!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

He’s been fairly unlucky so far this season.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was unlucky.

He was temporarily terrible. He’s better now.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His ball in play data was consistent with what he always did

Results weren’t the same. That’s generally more “unlucky” then anything else.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BALK!!!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, that looked hittable.

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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RAYS WIN RAYS WIN!!!

GABE GROSS WALKOFF HIT!

First place!!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Way too awesome

dare I say, more awesome than last night’s House?

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAYYYYYYYYYYYYS

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahaha

Fuck Rivera

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Wade Boggs' son bunting?

Would Wade Boggs bunt? That’s what I thought

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 7:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He did?

Labored quite a bit actually. He wasn’t great at all, but he wasn’t horrifying either.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean sarcasm?

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looked it up, Per WIkipedia

Verbal irony, including sarcasm

Verbal irony is distinguished from situational irony and dramatic irony in that it is produced intentionally by speakers. For instance, if a speaker exclaims, "I’m not upset!" but reveals an upset emotional state through her voice while truly trying to claim she’s not upset, it would not be verbal irony just by virtue of its verbal manifestation (it would, however, be situational irony). But if the same speaker said the same words and intended to communicate that she was upset by claiming she was not, the utterance would be verbal irony. This distinction gets at an important aspect of verbal irony: speakers communicate implied propositions that are intentionally contradictory to the propositions contained in the words themselves. There are examples of verbal irony that do not rely on saying the opposite of what one means, and there are cases where all the traditional criteria of irony exist and the utterance is not ironic.

Ironic similes are a form of verbal irony where a speaker does intend to communicate the opposite of what they mean. For instance, the following explicit similes have the form of a statement that means P(X) but which conveys the meaning not P:

  • as funny as cancer
  • as clear as mud
  • as pleasant as a root-canal

The irony is recognizable in each case only by using stereotypical knowledge of the source concepts (e.g., bowling balls, sledgehammers) to detect an incongruity.

A fair amount of confusion has surrounded the issue regarding the relationship between verbal irony and sarcasm, and psychology researchers have addressed the issue directly (e.g, Lee & Katz, 1998). For example, ridicule is an important aspect of sarcasm, but not verbal irony in general. By this account, sarcasm is a particular kind of personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons that incorporates verbal irony. For example, a person reports to her friend that rather than going to a medical doctor to treat her ovarian cancer, she has decided to see a spiritual healer instead. In response her friend says sarcastically, “Great idea! I hear they do fine work!” The friend could have also replied with any number of ironic expressions that should not be labeled as sarcasm exactly, but still have many shared elements with sarcasm.

Research shows that most instances of verbal irony are considered to be sarcastic, suggesting that the term sarcasm is more widely used than its technical definition suggests it should be (Bryant & Fox Tree, 2002; Gibbs, 2000). Some psycholinguistic theorists suggest that sarcasm (“Great idea!”, “I hear they do fine work.”), hyperbole (“That’s the best idea I have heard in years!”), understatement (“Sure, what the hell, it’s only cancer…”), rhetorical questions (“What, does your spirit have cancer?”), double entendre (“I’ll bet if you do that, you’ll be communing with spirits in no time…”) and jocularity (“Get them to fix your bad back while you’re at it.”) should all be considered forms of verbal irony (Gibbs, 2000). The differences between these tropes can be quite subtle, and relate to typical emotional reactions of listeners, and the rhetorical goals of the speakers. Regardless of the various ways folk taxonomies categorize figurative language types, people in conversation are attempting to decode speaker intentions and discourse goals, and are not generally identifying, by name, the kinds of tropes used.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, okay.

I’ll look it up. Damn.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Define:Sarcasm

“the use of verbal irony in which a person appears to be praising something but is actually insulting it: eg, "She’s a real winner!"”

It’s sarcasm, because it is verbal irony.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's fine.

But saying “slander in print form” can be corrected to say: “That’s libel.”

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet still correctable.

How ironic.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is wrong

The particular piece of “verbal irony” has more characteristics of sarcasm.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How?

It’s a personal criticism of a person or group of persons. It fits the very definition of sarcasm over verbal irony.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say over verbal irony, which means you believe that irony still fits it, but

sarcasm fits it better. Therefore, chinn was correct in saying irony, but not as correct as he could have been. He did not need correcting

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he did.

Irony, by itself, was incorrect. VERBAL irony is only partially correct. Sarcasm was the most correct term and answer.

Thus, he was wrong. It’s like saying that Kool Aid is water. Yes it has water in it, but water is not Kool Aid.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, verbal irony is a branch of irony.

It’s like saying “Kenji Johjima got out.” Verbal irony would be “Kenji Johjima grounded out.” Sarcasm would be “Kenji Johjima bunted out to the third baseman.” All three are correct, but the third is the most specific

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's awfully loose logic

Why isn’t the most accurate term not the correct one then?

More specifically, why the need to defend when you’re not using the most accurate term?

Inaccurate is inaccurate.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're mixing precision and accuracy.

Chinn’s choice was accurate, but imprecise. Please let it go.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

This whole subthread was based on retarded semantics.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably nothing.

But I’m sure they’ll find a way to make it about them, won’t they?

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut up you.

:-P

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent suggestion.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Exactly.

That’s why we’re moving on.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice try.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuni....

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yuni

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually he's 6'1"

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know we were counting

the length of his ears.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BRING RICHIE BACK

Tall first basemen are good defenders

NEEDS LESS SUCK

by Double06 on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus christ

how many times do i need to hear that Vazquez spent 17 games with the M’s in ‘01.

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 7:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wlad...

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 7:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone should photoshop Braindead Meme on this pic


(I am sorry if this is offensive to anyone)

by Fin on May 13, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Score!

someone with photoshop should get right on it.

by Fin on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know it was like 5 years ago

But I was using “too soon” as like… maybe kinda harsh. I dunno, it seemed a little bit low. I wasn’t offended or anything, I was just thinking someone else could be.

by qrsouther on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like a week after Schaivo died

We had a move called “The Schaivo” in the joke male-dance team routine and openly and sarcastically dedicated the dance to her at my high school. No one cared. Is Lynnwood high school soul less?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lynnwood is.

So we can only assume.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody here cares if somebody else is offended.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know where you are?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too soon?

How long was that? Not even close.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

needs more 9/11

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was COMPLETELY unnecessary

The () part that is.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bum bum bum bum

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

San Diego lost

So if we can hold on to the loss, we take over the #1 spot.

by edddgar on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix not doing well, Mariners not hitting, getting robbed of base hits,

Olivo playing first and batting second, Yuni sucking at defense, Clement and Wlad not doing well, Wlad playing bad defense, Vasquez owning us.

So much fail…

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with Jeff

I think that went a little too far.

by Fin on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that what Jeff was saying?

I’m confused.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to use the .gif

I don’t get offended by anything.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought.

Especially since the original joke wasn’t even racist. Just race-related.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh don't be a flaming fa....

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DSFARGEG

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday disagrees but that looked very, very, very low.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hm, looked way lower.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm not doubting you.

I’m just a little surprised.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case you're curious

PITCHf/x has an error of 2.2 inches.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ridiculous

Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we gonna get a summary post of the summit?

Or are you able to share any of that?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the talks were way too smart for me

however, if you’re so inclined, you can download the presentations here. I’m glad I went, but it’s been a while since I felt like the dumbest guy in the room.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how they can't use this sort of technology for bats.

I created programs in HS that did pattern recognition on live video. We recreated a pitch f/x style system (not nearly as complicated) for tennis balls, and then converted it to the rackets with limited success. If we were able to post a camera directly above like they do in baseball, I could easily see getting swing speed, angle, rotational axis, etc.

Could you imagine being able to solve the “Clement Bat Speed” controversy once and for all? Not to mention the ability to fine-tune swings at early stages in a career? It would make the “PED Spike” look like a speedbump.

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's for batted balls.

Any rumors on the swing end of it?

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn.

It would be like the tag tracking they use for video game capture, but for every single AB ever. Just think about the video game realism, for starters. I wonder if they have any money to throw at a lapsed programmer to buy HD cams and a fibre channel array for development?

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of video game realism

the SportVision people are talking to game developers about involving PITCHf/x. If they arrive at an agreement, you won’t be hitting any more video game fastballs. You’ll be hitting real ones.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That rocks.

Although I think the batting realism needs to catch up first.

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that verbal irony?

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That looked reallllyyy low

Screw you Guardado

Why do we keep getting owned by ex-Mariners?

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someday that o will migrate over to p

And we’ll have a complete internet phenomena sentence.

by qrsouther on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Four Errors

Grade A-quality defense.

by ThundaPC on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

We just got owned by Guardado… I think it’s time to take a little break.

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Time for the postgame show.

My favorite part of the game.

by ThundaPC on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This team actually might make me puke.

Guardado striking out Ichiro to end the game on the night after Vasquez hits a walk-off against Morrow in the 11th…

What the hell is happening?

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

aaaahhhh

I’ve never seen so much fail by a baseball team before! Seriously!

by vkut79 on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey trade:

Will be for the draft pick of 2009.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn good thing

That’s not possible.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PTBNL

You can’t do that?

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah.

Did not know that.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A PTBNL would never be a first round pick.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it can.

But he has to have been picked first.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other words, the Billy Beane method

Selected Jeremy Bonderman in the first round but was used as the PTBNL in a trade later, but he couldn’t be named as the PTBNL until after a year from his draft date.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that's how he got rid of Bonderman

never knew that. Was it in the Weaver deal?

by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

There’s a bit about it in Moneyball

by Graham on May 14, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I knew he drafted him in Moneyball and that was how I knew about the Weaver deal

but I always assumed he just stole Weaver from the Tigers and passed him to NY for Lilly(?)

by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, I'm confused though

The book depicts Beane as being extremely upset about the pick – was he always picked to be a PTBNL or did Beane just decide to get rid of him as soon as his scouts drafted him on accident?

by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not now.

In order for that to work, the PTBNL has to already be on your team. If it’s a fresh draftee, you have to wait an entire year before you can name him the PTBNL.

Thus, even if it were possible at this point (and it isn’t), the Reds wouldn’t get anybody until 2010.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kerney?

Needs more Lawrence Jackson.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tatupu looks drunk.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only a real futbol team can save us

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

Kerney: Aww come on man, gimme a hug!
Warner: Jesus Christ I’m dead.

by BrianL on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure if I'm alone on this or anything

But I want to have Grady Sizemore’s baby.

by qrsouther on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

....

...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

butthole is 14.

So… No.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

butthol is fourtn

So… No.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man that is young

I thought Jeff had a link for under 18 year olds to go to.

by Fin on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m such an outlaw.

by qrsouther on May 13, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHHAHAHHAHA

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean...

only if they’re Anne Frank

by Faux on May 13, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait... What?

Is this some new kind of rickroll?

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes an enormous commitment of time to keep up with all the inside jokes.

I should probably stop trying, before the rest of my life starts to crumble around me. I’m just waiting for the day I see one of the regulars around here on Intervention.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That depends

The middle of this decade? Not too kind to the Blazers.

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers seem to be doing just fine

they’re probably one of the three or four best run teams in the NBA

by seattlebruin on May 14, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also:

So, that means we’ve lost series to the Rangers AND the Orioles.

And yet, oddly enough, people seem to think this team is still capable of contending.

I’m guessing we’ll be cured of that by the All-Star break

by eponymous_coward on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

15-26

Worst start of the season since 2004.

Mariners are favored to win the division.

by ThundaPC on May 13, 2008 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's laughing now, Geoff Baker?

Mariners are were favored to win the division.

by Fin on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're not.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were talking about Iron Maiden on the Diamondbacks broadcast.

....ah…..too…much….awesome….in…..one….place….overload overload overload

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alot of the times he annoys the hell out of me.

And then something he says something totally awesome. Like talking about BABIP or Win Expectancy, or referencing dppb.org(which him and Sutton both read).

Unfortunatly, there’s alot more of the former than the latter.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

errr sometimes

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

Make that dbbp.org

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine there isn't much that's more interesting

than positive psychotherapy in Bulgaria.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you tell?

Up on your Bulgarian, are you? Or do you mean less interesting that Mark Grace would be speaking of it?

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Society for Positive Psychotherapy in Bulgaria ( DPPB ) is the third in size (with Germany and Russia taking the first two places ) among the National Societies within the framework of ICPP and EFCPP . It was established in 1993 and registered as a non-profit organization on 18.11.1993.

In its systematic activities SPPB corresponds to Bulgaria ’ s current needs for qualified psychotherapists and the universal accessibility to psychotherapeutical help.

Positive Psychotherapy as a therapeutical method is the fourth biggest in Germany ( in terms of popularity among patients and remuneration by the German social security system ). The method has been pioneered by Prof. Dr.med. Nossrat Peseschkian , who was born in Iran, but has been working and living in Germany since 1954 . After graduation, he has specialized in the fields of Psychiatry and Psychoanalyses in Germany, Switzerland and the USA.

The method of Positive Psychotherapy was introduced in Germany in 1968 and since then has achieved worldwide acknowledgement. Over 60 independent Centers of Positive Psychotherapy are currently functioning in more than 20 countries in Europe , Asia , North America and Africa. They are all part of the International Centers for Positive Psychotherapy ( ICPP ) network and European Federation of Centers for Positive Psychotherapy (EFCPP ) based in Wiesbaden ( Germany ), and through them – of the European Wide Accrediting Organization ( EWAO ) and the European Association for Psychotherapy . ( EAP ).

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fascinating.

Third largest, really? In the whole ICPP framework? That’s impressive.

Can’t argue with that.

Is it just me, or is this AJ trade looking worse every day?

by The Alaskan on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Johnson wins #287.

And has 4648 strikeouts. Needs 25 to pass Clemens.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 13, 2008 9:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should kidnap Felix

and say that he won’t come back if the Mariners don’t get better.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 13, 2008 9:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

[looks around]

no one here…

hopefully my fucking computer is working now

by chinn on May 13, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

your computer was first on the list of things I’m fucking today.

You’re slated for 11:45.

by BrianL on May 13, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured it out

FelixS and ErikS are pitching now. :(

by eponymous_coward on May 13, 2008 10:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh. King Felix thinks accountability is for sissies and Canadians

Or so Geoff Baker perceives this…

”...Hernandez, unlike Ibanez, again did his best to avoid the media for as long as he could. He’s been doing it all week, since helping to ignite that brawl with the Rangers. This time, he ignored a media relations staffer’s repeated, polite requests to come talk, purposely hanging out in an off-limits area for 45 minutes after the game until all but a Seattle radio reporter had left. Writers have deadlines and pitchers are made well aware of them and usually come out to speak quickly unless they are receiving treatment. Media members will rarely linger in a clubhouse more than a half-hour after a game. Players don’t like it. Neither do we.

But Hernandez was being purposely difficult, making a team employee chase him around. He did the same stuff to other employees in spring training and, I’ve got to admit, it bugs me to see a 22-year-old allowed to do that. Bugs me that anyone would, especially putting out employees of his team doing their jobs. His team, not mine. I know how much talent Hernandez has, but he has accomplished very little in this game.”

Coldly devouring reason as if it were a delectable snack

by Frosty Raptor on May 13, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I really could care less.

So long as he goes out to the mound and does his thing, he could beat up every reporter during post-game and I won’t give a rat’s ass.

by BrianL on May 13, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh shut the fuck up Baker.

I’m tired of your fucking shit.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

1998 Expansion Teams Reign Supreme!

by Goose on May 13, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least we still have Larry Stone

who gave props to the USSM on his spot with Groz and Gas today. Pretty much manned up and said that Dave and Derek got this one right.

by BrianL on May 13, 2008 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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