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That was all the confirmation I needed.

I've suspected for a little while now that the season is already over, but I couldn't be sure if I really believed it, or if I was just trying to talk myself out of getting any more hurt. I needed a test. I needed something to happen that would truly reveal whether I still harbored any hope for the team, or if - in early May - I was already going through the motions.

Today I was granted that test. Today I saw the Mariners storm out to a huge early lead, blow it, fight back, blow it again in unthinkable fashion, stage an impossible last-second comeback, and then lose on a walk-off bomb by a utility player. Short of playing the Red Sox or there being another brawl, I couldn't have asked for more drama. This was exactly the game I needed to watch in order to find out what I believe in my heart of hearts.

Turns out that, yeah, just as I thought. No hope.

As I saw the game's events unfold, I knew it was crazy. When Lopez muffed Young's routine groundball, I knew I should've been pissed. When Johjima took Wilson deep on an 0-2 pitch with two outs in the ninth to tie it up, I knew I should've been flipping out. And when Morrow served up the winner to Ramon Vazquez of all people, I knew I should've been devastated. But I wasn't. The game - as insane as it was - just didn't evoke much in the way of any emotional response. While I stuck around from the moment I got home until the final pitch, I watched on with loyal indifference, the way I imagine a parent must watch his kid's school band perform in an assembly. Things happened, the game changed, and I moved on. It was a page right out of my usual September playbook.

It's not that the Mariners don't have a prayer of competing. Teams have erased bigger gaps before, and the fact that it's still only May 12th means there's obviously all kinds of time for things to turn around. It's just that the odds are so long that my brain has decided it's not worth getting too emotionally invested in the doldrums. Self-preservation and all that. I'll keep watching, and if they start to show signs of life I'm sure I'll dive right back in, but until that happens, it's just guys playing baseball. You watch, you enjoy, and you get on with your life. Come to terms with that and you'll find it really quite liberating.

5_12_08_medium

Biggest Contribution: Kenji Johjima +37.2%
Biggest Suckfest: Erik Bedard, -40.1%
Most Important AB: Johjima homer, +33.9%
Most Important Pitch: Vazquez homer, -39.2%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -41.2%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -15.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +6.6%
(What is this chart?)

 

Star-divide

  • Given all the wackiness of the later innings, it would be easy to forget that Erik Bedard started this game. But he did, and he sucked. The Rangers can hit the ball, but you expect a whole hell of a lot better from your alleged ace than six runs and four walks in two innings. This wasn't an Arlington drubbing, either. This was legit. Bedard couldn't throw consistent strikes, and when he found the zone - especially in the third inning - he got pounded. Hamilton in particular just beat the living crap out of a fastball at the belt.

    I am officially concerned. More than that, really. Bedard has shown flashes of greatness, but he hasn't hit his 2007 level of performance for more than a few batters at a time. Observe:

    2007 2008
    Strike% 64 62
    Swinging% 18 15
    FIP 3.33 5.62

    The control is worse, but far more alarming is that Bedard's ability to miss bats has (so far) regressed from terrific to league average, which has predictably taken a massive toll on his strikeouts and, thus, his effectiveness. Right now he looks a lot more like the Bedard from '04/'05 than the Bedard from '07, the result being that seldom does he truly look like an ace.

    Yeah, Bedard had a nasty start to his 2007 as well. After his first seven starts last year his ERA stood at 5.62. But even then his swinging strike rate was still a healthy 17%. His K/BB at that point was over three. Right now it's well under two. Where Bedard's bad start a year ago was pretty much due to bad luck, this time around it's due to worse pitching.

    That's what has me worried. Bedard looks worse visually, he looks worse statistically, and he's already been on the DL. This is pretty much the worst-case scenario of the whole trade, and while nobody seems to be talking about it anymore, I don't think we've heard the last of his hip. I'd love to be wrong (although if he were healthy that would be even more disconcerting in a way), but I fear it's only a matter of time. 

  • I can't believe I've gotten to the point at which I actually feel sorry for John McLaren, but there you go. He's not the greatest tactician in the world, but he's good people, and I don't like it when good people experience such powerful dejection for reasons outside of their control. There's not really anything McLaren can do right now. Either the team's not hitting, the team's not fielding, the team's not pitching, or the team's not doing any of them, and no amount of lineup changes or closed-door freakouts can change that. Which must make him feel so utterly helpless. I hope McLaren is happy in his life away from the stadium. I really do. Because I just can't look at his expressions of tristful disbelief in the dugout anymore without being swept over by a sympathetic tidal wave. 

  • I don't, however, care about Mel Stottlemyre.

  • Prior to 2008, we thought of Mark Lowe as uncertain but awesome, and of Brandon Morrow as frustratingly inconsistent. Two months later they appear to have swapped places. Lowe has a dynamite changeup and a good slider to go with a mid-90s fastball, but the man can't throw strikes to save his life, leading to appearances like today's that damage our trust and makes us reluctant to see him in close games. Any reliever capable of walking four guys in an inning of work clearly has a lot of issues to sort out.

    Morrow, however, has assumed the role of Awesome Flamethrowing Setup Guy, coming up from AA throwing hard, pounding the zone, and missing even more bats than he did a year ago. His strike rate is up from 59% to 69%, his swinging strike rate is up from 19% to 25%, and he hasn't had to sacrifice anything in the way of velocity. Throw in much-improved secondary offerings and you've got the makings of a hell of a reliever. It'll take more than nine innings to convince me that Morrow has truly turned into an A-level fireman (this is where the "uncertain" comes in - one bad outing and I think I'll go right back to skeptical), but right now he looks all kinds of encouraging. Forget the Vazquez home run - this was probably either the best or second-best outing of Morrow's Major League career. 

  • Yeah, I wasn't kidding around back when I called Josh Hamilton the best position player in the AL West. Ordinarily I'd want to get my hands on a bigger sample size of information before making such a statement, but watching Hamilton and understanding his skillset, I see all the makings of a superstar. He might be there already. The only thing I'm unsure about right now is his defense, because offensively, I'm as sure that he can swing the bat as I am about pretty much anyone else in the league. He is absolutely the real deal.

  • I think having Hamilton might actually make Texas the team I'd like to see win the West. I don't have anything against the A's, but they're just so dreadfully boring that I wouldn't wish that viewing experience on anyone come October. The Rangers, though...I can get behind that team. I like Hamilton, I like Bradley, I like Wilson, and I like Benoit, which isn't too bad considering they're a division rival and all. I wish they had some interesting pitching to watch, and they lost a few brownie points when they cut Ben Broussard (brownie points they could re-gain if we end up with him again somehow), but they're not as unwatchable as I found them a year ago. In fact, of the clubs with a legitimate chance of competing in the AL this season, I think the only teams I'd rather see win are the Rays and the Indians. Texas wouldn't be so bad, just as long as any important games they play feature another team's announcers. 

  • Adrian Beltre has a line drive rate of 25% and a BABIP of .264. The man has been insanely unlucky, and given what the rest of the offense has been doing (excluding today) the timing really couldn't be worse. 

  • Kenji needed this game something terrible. He obviously wasn't going to go the entire season with a sub-.500 OPS, but he needed something to take attention away from his horrible start and Washburn's backstabbing. Today he hit a couple balls hard, and I can't tell you how nice it is to know that he can still turn on the Kenji Johjima Power Pitch every once in a while. I don't know where Wilson wanted that 0-2 pitch to go - Laird was set up around the knees - but his fastball wound up over the plate at the letters, and Kenji punished it to cap off an unbelievable comeback. His OPS+ is now beginning to approach Washburn's ERA+, which should turn the tables a little bit. Way to suck, Jarrod. 

  • Wladimir Balentien: .239/.271/.543. Six of his 11 hits have gone for extra bases, and four have left the yard. Given his 65% contact rate - which, were he qualified, would rank him second-worst in the league between Mark Reynolds and Ryan Howard - he's pretty clearly just going up there swinging from the heels, which has so far led to a most unusual batting line. I am both curious and terrified of what could happen if pitchers start using this to their advantage. He still swings at too much crap for this kind of performance to be sustainable, meaning if the pitchers start to make an adjustment, he needs to follow with one of his own, and quick. Sure is fun to watch that power, though. God damn he hits the ball hard.

We've slipped to 8.5 back of the A's, but with Felix and Gabbo! going again tomorrow, at least there's still a reason to watch. God help us on Wednesday though.

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Good Griffey writeup Jeff

I really Griffey think Josh Hamilton is Griffey going to be Griffey good, but God Griffey damn do I Griffey wish he didn’t hit Griffey so well Griffey against us. Griffey Oh well. Also, Griffey I think Wlad Balentien Griffey is going to be really good. I Griffey hope you and Dave are Griffey wrong about Griffey him. Not like You’Griffeyre wishing for his failure Griffey. Only that I hope Griffey that he somehow proves Griffey he had more Griffey skills that he appeared. Give Griffey him time, yeah? No one Griffey can expect any young player to Griffey be good right away.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 12:59 AM PDT   2 recs

Don't be such a Marklar.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 13, 2008 11:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

I use them interchangeably for some reason even though I know I shouldn’t.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 1:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This was a fun game to watch..

If you like considering fashioning a noose every other inning.

But this game should have been formality after the first. Bedard was really really bad, Washburnesque. It’s nice to see the bats do something for a change though.

Pop goes the buttsy on the left hand side!!

by PhilKenSebben on May 13, 2008 1:14 AM PDT   0 recs

Things I'm Glad I Did Instead Of Watching This Game

1. Bought a camping pass for Sasquatch!
2. Bought a new capo and guitar tuner
3. Looked into getting either a 360 or PS3
4. Unpacked all my stuff from college
5. Watched a bit of the Cavs-Celtics game before realizing that’s some UGLY basketball
6. Bought groceries

Mildly productive nights – Something that the Mariners and me don’t have in common.

by SethGrandpa on May 13, 2008 1:26 AM PDT   0 recs

I dont understand what was so bad about watching this game...

...other than the fact that it was painful. Any other baseball fan would admit that it was entertaining. At this point, its much more fun/exciting to watch this game than it is to watch a 2-1 victory, even if it is for the M’s… (the seasons virtually over). I enjoyed it. If you dont want to watch it, listen to the radio and look at PS3 and shit online, lol. but all in all it was a great game for a fan of baseball. Maybe we’re just too close to it all.

by SeattleReign on May 13, 2008 12:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Season

I’ve pretty much accepted the fact that we’re not going to the playoffs. Still though, I’m confident that this season will be loads of fun.

Kenji in the worst slump of his career comes up with probably his best hit of all time as a Mariner. What an improbable game-tying two-out three-run homerun. This should’ve have felt like one of the most awesome sights I’ve seen in ages. Instead, I just found it funny when Dave Sims said “Game Over” after Clement’s AB before correcting himself saying “2-outs, excuse me.”

by ThundaPC on May 13, 2008 3:01 AM PDT   0 recs

I have nothing interesting to say

So here’s something for you House-rs(?). Whatever you’re called.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 5:04 AM PDT   0 recs

This needs a shop

Someone go to town:

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 5:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Last but not least...

You can thank me later:

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 13, 2008 5:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank jebus for Adblock.

I can look at this thread while at work without getting in trouble.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 13, 2008 8:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How do you collapse comments?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 13, 2008 2:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Or you can set it to default to "collapse"

by using the drop down menu at the top of the comments section.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 13, 2008 2:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Genius. Thanks.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 13, 2008 3:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pripyat?

Now that’s some symbolism right there. Sadly, Pripyat is showing more signs of life than the M’s right now.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on May 13, 2008 7:03 AM PDT   0 recs

Didn't...

Vaquez hit the HR off of JJ in Arlington last year, deep to CF, which was his first blown save of the year?

by elsid on May 13, 2008 7:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Was it last year?

I thought he did it this year. Whatever, yeah, Vazquez kills our closers :-(

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 13, 2008 9:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have had no internet at home since yesterday

MLWU will show up when I can get it written and posted.

I think I reached the point you reached, Jeff, a week ago. It was like 2005 all over again: this was just a game, not a game of any importance, just another game from a team playing out the string. The Loafie botch and the Vazquez bomb were frustrating and JOLTIN JOHJIMAAAA was awesome, but simply that and nothing beyond.

Hearing KOMO shove the Griffey rumor out as top sports news this morning and seeing ESPN devote a legit segment to it last night was very disconcerting. I hear they may want a RF. I have a bad feeling about this….

by Gomez on May 13, 2008 8:32 AM PDT   0 recs

Either Reed or Wlad, right?

Wouldn’t it be the ultimate punk-ass Bavasi move to give them BOTH?

I can see that happening as clearly as i can see myself going
to work this morning.

by lyleleander on May 13, 2008 9:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd worry about Clement more...

Cincy is trying to make room for outfielders—they don’t need one in return. A catcher, OTOH, is precisely what they DO need…

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 13, 2008 9:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ramontiago!

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 13, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Was not a Bill Bavasi move.

That was in place before he was hired.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 10:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That Guillen was to be traded: yes

the specifics on the trade: unknown

by Matthew on May 13, 2008 11:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

True, true.

But what are you going to get for a fairly good defensive, slightly above average bat (.276/.359/.394, not park-adjusted I know) that everyone in the world knows will absolutely not be on that team next year? Probably better than Santiago, but regardless it’s pretty much impossible to get anything good when other GMs know you HAVE to trade the guy.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

For a large market team, the Mariners sure do seem to be

in a position to “have” to trade a guy a lot :(

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I could be wrong,

but didn’t Guillen get traded because of his perceived alcohol problem not being part of the “Mariners family values” rather than his on-field talent?

by Jed MC on May 13, 2008 12:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt it, too.

But you never really know.

I’m honestly a little more worried about someone in the Juan Ramirez/Adam Moore category.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on May 13, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Clement -----> Griffey

is the elephant in the corner of the room. We all know it’s there, but we can only hope Bavasi isn’t stupid enough.

I don’t see this happening unless Sexson ——> Votto is also part of the deal. I could totally jive a Clement/Sexson for Votto/Griffey deal straight up.

If only Wayne Kriviski (sp?) was still the GM…

by Wilder. on May 13, 2008 10:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

According to the Hitler video on the Red's Reporter

they have 3. Also, if they trade a catcher, I assume it will be Joh or Moore before it would be Clement.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 10:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kenji WPA = infinity

Didn’t win the game, but I couldn’t believe it when Kenji hit that HR to tie it… I was sure it was over.

by Luscious James on May 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT   0 recs

Don't expend the 20 mins all at once

use them 2-3 mins at a time. It lasts longer that way.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 13, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They (will) have Wii Fit and DDR.

I think they’re doing just fine

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 11:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

At the risk of sending this completely off the rails

a game called Wii Porn would be…interesting.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 13, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

What would you do in Wii Porn?

Use the Wii-mote to simulate… motions… while pictures come up on your TV?

I mean they already have that Mario Party mini game where you just shake the Wii-Mote as much as possible in ten seconds….

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2008 11:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What about this?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 13, 2008 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You can tell a lot about a man's love making abilities

from the way a man handles his dance pad.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on May 13, 2008 11:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no retort to this

because I walked right into it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 13, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This

really cracked me up. But I may be still suffering from all the beer I had to drink in the last 3 innings of last nights game. Oh, and the beer and shots I had to have after the game ….

by nwtrev on May 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You

Grieve is a moron and rarely do you find Lewin talking about the game at hand. And don’t even get me started on Jim Knox.

by Jeff on May 13, 2008 12:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jeff you amaze me

I can barley watch this team any ore and you write these things up everyday, and keep them interesting. Thanks, even though our team blows I still earn a lot and have fun at LL.

by InSpokane on May 13, 2008 11:26 AM PDT   0 recs

You're getting paid to be here?

You bastard!

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on May 13, 2008 11:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.

Or what I’ve been doing, is working on projects around the house and listening to the games on the radio. I really really hate Rick Rizz, but Dave is way better on the radio.

by InSpokane on May 13, 2008 11:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I've been listening to the radio instead of watching too.

Instead of doing projects, I’ve been playing in the back yard with the boy. It brings me back to my childhood in the 80’s with terrible M’s teams and playing in the yard with my dad. Even though the M’s are terrible, I’ve still been enoying this season because of the radio broadcast.

by Jed MC on May 13, 2008 11:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Would you be amazed if I told you

I had to read that three times before I saw the typos?

by JI on May 13, 2008 11:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs