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Pitcher Abuse Points: Felix Hernandez

From BP, PAP ranking in 2008 season to date:

1. Gil Meche

2. Adam Wainwright

3. Scott Olsen

4. Brett Myers

5. Chris Young

6. Jake Peavy

7. Felix Hernandez

I am quite concerned about this.  In the last few games, Felix's command was wild.  This might be a sign of being tired.  For your reference, the pitch counts of his 8 outings are: 97, 97, 117, 115, 110, 115, 105, 112.  I don't like this.

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it'a not like he's throwing over 120...

an above average MLB pitcher should be expected to throw that many pitches in a game. And Felix is way above average. I’m not concerned.

by basebliman on May 12, 2008 5:39 PM PDT   0 recs

better to throw 100 pitches a game...

...than to be pulled after giving up 7 runs in 60 pitches.

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by sirbrianwilson on May 12, 2008 6:40 PM PDT   0 recs

PAP made sense when some pitchers were throwing 140 pitches in a game

but that’s mostly stopped happening. No one throws category IV or V starts anymore.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 13, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

Though that doesn’t keep PAP from making sense now, it’s just that posting the ranking without putting in the raw PAP totals doesn’t make much sense. And PAP was never much more than a rough guide, anyway.

I think it’s fair to show some concern over Felix’s pitch counts, but nothing awful has happened yet. If this is a prelude to 130-140-pitch games in the future, then there could be problems.

by ubelmann on May 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus, Felix also has the second highest average pitches/game in baseball

suggesting that his pitch counts are remarkably consistent. I’d say that suggests a lower danger of extremely high pitch-count games.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 13, 2008 11:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BP messed up

those are actually Wife Abuse Points for Myers.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 12, 2008 9:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Pizza?!

I could have had pizza at work!

by Jordan of Boise on May 12, 2008 10:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That is a pretty good list of pitchers.

I am not concerned. Felix knows his limits.

by Wilder. on May 12, 2008 11:12 PM PDT   0 recs

I was just thinking

Now that we have all this pitch data has anybody looked at how much better/worse SP stuff gets as the game (or pitch count) increases?

by Edgar for Pres on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM PDT   0 recs

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