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Seattle Mariners at Texas Rangers, May 12, 2008 5:05 PM PDT


Lineup

Seattle Mariners @ Texas Rangers

05/12/08 5:05 PM PDT

Seattle Mariners Texas Rangers
Ichiro Suzuki - CF Ian Kinsler - 2B
Jose Vidro - 1B Michael Young - "SS"
Adrian Beltre - 3B Josh Hamilton - awesome
Raul Ibanez - "LF" Milton Bradley - DH
Jose Lopez - 2B Brandon Boggs - LF
Jeff Clement - DH Gerald Laird - C
Kenji Johjima - C Chris Shelton - 1B
Wladimir Balentien - RF German Duran - RF
Yuniesky Betancourt - SS Ramon Vazquez - 3B


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Erik Bedard 2-2 5 5 0 0 0 0 31.2 20 11 7 4 14 25 1.99 1.07

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Vicente Padilla 5-2 8 8 1 1 0 0 50.2 53 21 17 6 18 33 3.02 1.40


Griffey blows. Ken Griffey Jr is an absolutely terrible baseball player.

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That can't be real

I refuse to believe that anyone with Carlos Delgado’s reputation as a generally good guy would have that person as an agent…

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real or not, it's hilarious.

“So’s your Mom.”

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 12, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Griffey worse than GMJ right now?

Just wondering if I could somehow be thankful (relatively) for Gary.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 12, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Worse than Ibanez?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure there is

but it the same time I find it hard to believe that Griffey has worse instincts and skills than Ibanez does.

by JI on May 12, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is Ibanez

I know he’s horrible but I refuse to believe that he is Raul horrible.

by JI on May 12, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Churchill wrote

"Griffey is at least better defensively than Ibanez is.

What USSM and LL probably don’t see yet is that Griffey is at a disadvantage when it comes to all the sabr stats for defense.

Without formulating it in (it’s totally unintentional) the stats skew to players that play in bigger ballparks.

He’s got more room to cover and gets to this % of balls hit out there, so he must be better…

Ridiculous."

I do not know anything about defensive stats, just wanted someone’s take on this who knows how to measure defense, since Churchill’s is an opinion I respect.

by ASUBoyd on May 12, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like it would be the opposite, and they would skew to the smaller parks

because the guys in smaller parks turn a greater % of balls in zone into outs (conceivably) because the zone is smaller

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respect MGL's more

to say nothing of Churchill. MGL is just really smart. I tend to believe what he says.

by Jeff on May 12, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loafie's OPS is .710.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he plays 2B

and plays it pretty well.

Do you understand how that makes a straight OPS comparison dumb?

by Matthew on May 12, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Lincoln will order Bavasi to acquire the Whiffster

Just to placate the unruly masses.

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Griffey worse than Andruw Jones?

I went to the Dodgers game on Saturday and holy shit Jones looks DONE. Why they continue to play him and not Eithier I do not know.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 12, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait they're not playing Eithier?

I thought they got smart at the beginning of the season and said that Pierre was the 4thOF. What happened?

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 12, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kemp was the odd man out at the start of the season

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's now everyday and Either is odd man out.

They’re both on my fantasy team, so I know this. Ha ha.

by SethGrandpa on May 12, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For awhile Ethier was playing every day

but then when Juan Pierre started walking more they put him back in the line up and started playing Kemp every day. Andruw Jones continues to get starts for whatever reason.

I don’t understand Torre’s thinking. First Ethier is every day and Kemp is not, then it is the other way around. They both need to be in the lineup in order to give the Dodgers their best chance of winning.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 12, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Reds' trainers.

They can burn for all I care. >:(

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you stop, please?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if you think about it, it's actually pretty obvious.

He got hurt with the Mariners right? But they were all from smashing into walls and stuff. With Cincinnati, they’ve all been stupid injuries that, with a decent training staff, could be prevented.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt this is true.

Plus (forgetting the 10 years he played in the Kingdome) they had turf in Cincy too. Turf will fuck you up.

Again, make more sense, you can’t just say a bunch of random stuff and expect everyone to know what you mean.

by JI on May 12, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See: Jose Vidro.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hilarious

coming from you.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on May 12, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Finnigan has a hit out on Jeff right now.

Be afraid Jeff, be very afraid.

Some people cut themselves. I root for the Mariners.

by ColbyInBoston on May 12, 2008 4:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Finnigan will eventually catch up to him.

It may take one year, two years, or even a couple of decades, but he’ll catch up to him!

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Padilla pitching again?

Hmmm, I might just have to watch this game for the potential fireworks.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well duh. I was being sarcastic. You know, about

your signature?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With you Coach, I can't be to sure.

And I was saying no from Arizona’s perspective.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.....

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

......

No good?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey may blow

But he’ll be a Mariner before the end of the year. Maybe even in Center Field, but probably DHing.

by Smegmalicious on May 12, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

With Jarrod "The Magic School Bus" Washburn on the hill

Can I petition to make that Wash’s new nickname? He throws his teammates under the bus and was caught with girls who belong on school buses. I think it’s a win.

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck it

Bring on Junior!

We’re not winning anyway, so we might as well lose at hard as we can.

by Garces on May 12, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Run away...

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst player in baseball

Looks like he’s desperate for a piss.

by Alex B on May 12, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't seen that, it's pretty funny

but you know you can actually say “his jock” on here and you won’t get in trouble, right? We like pottymouths.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neyer agrees, hops on Whiffey is not M's savior bandwagon

From the Neyer…

Griffey might have some real value as a drawing card. Based on what he’s done over these last three seasons (including this one), he doesn’t have much value as an actual player, and might struggle to be an average American League hitter. I can see acquiring him only if it’s not at the expense of the young players and the M’s have concluded that they’re out of the running for a playoff spot.

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this why Steve Phillips isn't a General Manger anymore?

TRADE JUNIOR Yes, Ken Griffey Jr. is one of the few reasons to visit Great American Ball Park, but it’s time to make the tough decisions. Griffey is signed only through this year, with a club option for 2009. As a 10-and-five player, he can veto any deal, but Chicago is a popular destination, so call White Sox GM Ken Williams, who’s tried to get Griffey in the past, and ask for Josh Fields or Carlos Quentin. The Sox have a shot, and Griffey would be huge in Chi-Town. Then call up top prospect Jay Bruce, and put him in center for the next 10 years.

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quinten?

Holy Fucking Jesus prancing on a dildo made of stupid.

by JI on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy frak it doesn't end!

On trading Adam Dunn, Phillips says thusly…

Go to the Giants, who need offense to replace Barry Bonds, and ask for Matt Cain. Go to Toronto and request a package that includes Adam Lind and Dustin McGowan or Shawn Marcum. Call Cleveland, which is desperate for bats, and ask for Cliff Lee and one of these three: OF Franklin Gutiérrez and lefties Jeremy Sowers and Aaron Laffey.

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three Cheers

No Cairo today…..

Three Boo’s for Vidro at first base batting second!

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 12, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KGJ = Raul

They’re both immobile DHs who have no business playing OF or hitting against LHP.

If the AL goes to a double DH league, getting Griffey would be great. Otherwise, it’s a disaster. The Mariners need to quit adding DHs to the roster, as they already have 3 (Raul, Turbo, Sexson), and they’ve already gone through a few more (Norton, Morse).

by eponymous_coward on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just had a horrible, horrible thought.

What if we traded for KGJ and had to eat both his option AND Turbo’s at the end of the season?

by BrianL on May 12, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well acquiring Junior would guarantee that there aren't any at bats for Turbo

because dear God, I can’t imagine they’d actually give up Clement or Balentien for him

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Junior to RF

Vidro, for some bizarre reason back to DH, Wlad and Clement back to AAA

Idiotic, but nothing surprises me anymore.

by BrianL on May 12, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be much worse if they traded Clement/Balentien..

Varitek was 25 and hitting .772 in AAA and Derek Lowe was getting shelled in Seattle. At least they could write it off as two “busts” at the time :(

by ASUBoyd on May 12, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeahhhhh but...

Balentien is at least on pace for 35 hrs and Clement had an over .900 OPS in AAA, so is known to be legit. Plus is 23.

Of course I know what youre sayign though. Too scary to think about haha..

by ASUBoyd on May 12, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Triunfel for Griffey, Jr.

You heard it here first.

Make it happen, Bill.

by esoteric on May 12, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw in Aumont?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 12, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of heartless prick would deny a man his well-desrved homecoming?

You know what you are? You’re one of the so-called “SaberMetric” twat scars, that’s what you are. Griffey brings a hometown name and 600HR!

by esoteric on May 12, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picked that phrase up from a college buddy who came from Jersey.

It’s really a New Jersey sort of term, when you think about it.

by esoteric on May 12, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Pretty sure that one is a ‘your buddy’ original.

by Limerickx on May 12, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really want to trade for Griffey

If we’re going to suck, I want to be entertained watching the trainwreck, and having Griffey back would be nostalgically awesome.

Bill – go get Griffey. Trade Turbo for him!!! (And please, please, please don’t trade anyone more valuable than Ryan Feierabend)

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why not

this team isn’t going anywhere this year, so put a little fun into what’s left of the season

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 12, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any candy left?

I’ll fuck you up if there isn’t. I ain’t afraid of jail-time.

by Alex B on May 12, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Lewin

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 12, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I vote for Bedard

drilling Kinsler in his first at-bat….. just to make the whole series interesting.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 12, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fire and brimstone eh Dave?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish Kenji would stay under the damn bus.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

"I eagerly await the day when I can shit in the living room"
~Robert

by Goose on May 12, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish Wash would go under the bus as well.

And he can take Cairo with him.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on May 12, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turbos up!

I haven’t seen this fat mug on gamecast in a while. Oh Turbo, how I haven’t missed you at all…

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 5:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

be faster

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 12, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

woo hoo!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 12, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Semi-Kata'd!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RAUUUUUL

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Woah

Barely left the ground

by Alex B on May 12, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vidro en Fuego, please

Either metaphorically or actually.

by Alex B on May 12, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sexy at bat for J-Lo

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

I turn away to do work for like thirty seconds and we have three runs?

WILL BEDARD WIN???????

by seattlebruin on May 12, 2008 5:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Feast on Padilla's entrails my children of the sea!

Feast!

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CLEMENT!! WOOT

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad defense.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on May 12, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BALK!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BALK!!

THAT WAS ALL JOHJIMA!!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop blaming Joh!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Padilla drunk?

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by Frosty Raptor on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

where waws this last week?

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

was*

poop I got JI syndrome.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-0 already!

Holy megaruns, Batman!

by ThundaPC on May 12, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just tuned in

HAHAHAHAHA Right back at you Texas

by chinn on May 12, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

According to Dave Neihaus before the game

This could be the best pitching matchup of the day.

by ThundaPC on May 12, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love how the Texas crowd booed Hamilton after his error

I mean, he’s had such a shit start to the season.

by Alex B on May 12, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Hardball Made Easy: Lesson 42 - How to Play Hung Over

Special guests the Texas Rangers, with your host Ron Stilanovich

by Lents Park Homer on May 12, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs