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TOS Reminder

Don't be mean, unless you're Graham.

This wasn't meant as a joke. Obviously, as your loving tyrant, I reserve the right to be a total dick, and Matthew has carte blanche when Graham goes to sleep, but everyone else agreed to this when they signed up for the new site, and seeing as it's one of LL's precious few rules of conduct (the others being (1) no politics, (2) no porn, (3) no Corco baiting, and (4) no GTE outside of the designated GTE-approved time period between the start and end of a game), I expect people to abide by it.

"But Jeff," you ask, "what if somebody's talking nonsense?"

Stupid people tend to take being wrong rather poorly. Because they're stupid. That said, see if you can spot the difference between the following two examples.

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EXAMPLE 1:

Stupid Person: I think Jon Garland is good.
LL User: Could you be more stupid?

EXAMPLE 2:

Stupid Person: I think Jon Garland is good.
LL User:
You're wrong. Garland's a flyball pitcher with a plunging strikeout rate, and that's not a real strong recipe for success.

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Example 1 is being an asshole. Example 2 is being right (which is often confused for being an asshole by people who are wrong). Example 1 is bad. Example 2 is encouraged.

You can be wrong or you can be right all you like. But don't be mean, unless you're Graham (or Matthew, or me). If we catch you being mean or condescending or self-righteous for no reason, we'll put a target on your back, and believe me when I say that we're way better at being assholes than you are.

Update: from this point forward, if you attempt to impersonate another user, you're going to regret it. And that's a promise.

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I think Jon Garland is good

ERA+s of 128, 105, 112, lots of innings, projected ERA in the low 4s, what's not to like?

Seriously, though: GTE? Game-time excitement? Gorillas taking ecstacy?

by abelard on Apr 8, 2008 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

LL User: You're wrong. Garland's a flyball pitcher with a plunging strikeout rate, and that's not a real strong recipe for success.

ERA+ is not a good indicator of future performance. If ERA is a bad stat, why say he's good simply because his ERA is better than league average.

I think I understand the tagging.....>_>

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 8, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game Thread Entropy

There are no good E words, so unless we're planning on changing the acronym, that's all we've got.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 8, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I'll rephrase

.No good E words if we keep "game thread"

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here here.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 8, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for calling people out on this, Goose

Things were getting pretty out of hand there on a few occasions

by ningwers on Apr 8, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

well damn

I can see I'm not going to last long with that TOS.... bummer.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 8, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's got kinda out of hand there

It went from lighthearted teasing to bullying, and that's no fun.

by OlSalty on Apr 8, 2008 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of which, I propose that impersonating

other users should be an insta-ban.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Certainly something like that

TAKE NOTICE:

I talked to the devs today and they're working on a fix for the username impersonation bug, but in the meantime, if we see anyone else doing that, you'll get some sort of punishment. 24-hour ban or something. Not sure.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 8, 2008 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

all fake names have been banned. And since I can tell who created them, the next person to try it gets both his names banned.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a technical question

Are we allowed to impersonate ourselves?

by Corco on Apr 9, 2008 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

And also, Jesus Christ

How old are you? It's time to grow up.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have, mostly

I'd say my maturity level is about 5 years younger on the internet, making me almost 15

by Corco on Apr 9, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're not invincible.

Just because I'm more lenient than USSM doesn't mean I can't be persuaded to change. Pull more shit like you did tonight and you're not long for the blogosphere.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Because you've said that before. And either you didn't understand or you just decided to blow it off a week later.

Listen to me very carefully, right now:

This is your last warning. The next time you pull stupid bullshit or let yourself get baited when i KNOW you know better, it's a week off. The time after that, it's permanent.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

This is just like DARE in Jr High... I didn't read much of the later GT, but now I really have to see what the fuss is about.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The TOS Reminder was prompted by Game thread 1

The comments above refer to roughly the middle to end of game thread 3.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i was mainly reading in part II, as I fell asleep right as RRS was coming in. I always feel bad that Jeff has to deal with people acting like complete retards.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

RE: account duplication

I meant acting like retards with imitating people. I think everyone here, from time to time, wants to break down and tell someone to stfu.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's an interesting idea

but yeah, people are too attached to their pseudo identities. I use librocrat to keep my real name off the internet, but it's still associated with me, generally. If someone stole it and, say, used it on another website, that would be frustrating.

comma

When I saw that SB reserved it for me, I was pleased.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I use my real last name

I get sick of the pseudo identity game. Kinda one of the problems with the internet-- the whole deal with people feel its okay to trash someone if its over a computer and BigCarrotIndiansFan is the target.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's easy for you to say,

you're Mr. Batura, you have a cool sounding name. Alright look if it's no big deal to be Mr. Pink, do you wanna trade?

by coolguyrob on Apr 9, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Batura is rarely called cool sounding :) Its not because I like the sound of my name, its just its typically a unique id on most systems, otherwise I'd use ScottB. That was my original gmail account name before some guy from Malaysia jacked my account and I got in some strange hacker duel with him.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the issue is not that I care about what people say about me.

The issue is that when I apply to graduate school, and a researcher googles my name, I don't want them to see all this stuff I'm doing. When I'm older, sure - what do I care? But when it may actually affect my life, I'd prefer to keep it off.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey...

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way,

I tend to prompt several reminders and public statements, regardless of whether or not I'm the initial cause of them.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Though I'm on here enough that that's not difficult.

The odds are in my favor... or against me, depending on how you look at it.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

For clarification:

What is Corco baiting? and what or who is Corco?

by Alaska on Apr 9, 2008 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Corco = I'm NOT Corco, previously David J Corcoran

Corco baiting is the act of trying to make him go crazy by posting about things like Idaho and American cars. It was funny once, it's not anymore, and I'd just as soon never have to see it again as long as I live.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Proposal for Corcobating Rule:

Subsection A: Only people from or in Idaho can talk about Idaho. Users who fail to respect the difficult relationship between Idahoans and their awful/awesome state will be punished by being compelled to look at pictures of Gov. "Butch" Otter in tight jeans for no more than five minutes. Repeated violations will result in Gov. "Butch" Otter divorcing his thirty-years younger wife and subsequently marrying your teenage sister.

Subsection B: No one is allowed to mention "Idaho" and "Potatoes" in the same sentence for any reason. Saying "EOF must be from Idaho, because he is some awesome Potatoes!" is grounds for disembowelment.

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 9, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I concur

(and that's all I'm going to say)

by Corco on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, come on

You couldn't get a Larry Craig joke in there?

And I grew up in Boise and my whole family lives there, I can say that ;)

I'll take "Poor Managerial Decisions" for $800, Alex

by mtn335 on Apr 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Good News:

The M's won tonight. I think this is a good thing.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 9, 2008 12:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, a couple days off and you guys

go nuts without me.

This is like when you take a vacation from your family and then you return to find out your mom slept with the postal worker while your sister was boinking your best friend in your bed.

Right?

...........................

by brayden04 on Apr 9, 2008 2:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha

I don't think it happens a lot in my family, but I haven't been home in so long that I don't really know!

I don't know if my sister is hot, I mean, that's kinda messed up if I said she was. So therefore I will go with she is not hot.

by brayden04 on Apr 9, 2008 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Iono, I think if your sister is actually hot you can get around the "no saying your sister is hot" rule

like for example, one of my friends has a really hot sister, and he doesn't mind telling people that his sister is hot (she's on the dance team at UCI - she's actually pretty hot). But then one day he got drunk and started running around a party telling people he didn't know "have you seen my sister? She's really hot!"

This comment made no sense.

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think it's more of a terminology deal. If your sister is hot, you can certainly say "my sister is beautiful/pretty/whatever" and convey the same point. Saying your sister is hot implies that you are sexually attracted to her.

by Corco on Apr 9, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just read the rest of the third game thread.

And now I wish I hadn't. My brain STILL hurts. >_<

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 9, 2008 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

good times

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

My computer had to pick yesterday afternoon to die

I come in to work this morning, think "wow, I'll catch up on some LL now" and now my brain is spinning. I can't decide whether it's out of pure amusement, bemusement, horror, or what, but it was an interesting read, for sure.

And can I take this as yet another opportunity to thank Jeff et al for the thankless job of wrangling the herd of rabid cats that is the LL community? Especially on days like yesterday, it can't be easy and the laid-backness of your approach 99% of the time is definitely appreciated and why I keep hanging out here.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

No way I'd have the patience Jeff has.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff recites a mantra of "Serenity Now" before reading these posts

It appears to be working so far. I don't think Jeff has ever banned anyone.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 9, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he was the Joker to your Batman!!!

Did you get tired of him pointing out everyone's dangling modifiers and comma-splices?

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 9, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

More like the politics and Nazism

oh and the world-class douchebaggery. AK, if you're reading this - I don't regret it in the least.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nazism? YOU'RE the Nazi around here, Jeff

From,

Skoorbo

*ducks to avoid banhammer and I AM NOT SKOORBO despite sometimes wishing I could emulate his general douchebaggery for my own personal amusement*

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skoorbo was hilarious

Skoorbo is the reason I don't ban people. We tend to scare the retards away pretty quick.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... I've been here for almost a year

and you haven't scared me away yet. Does that mean I'm not a retard?

YAYYYYYYY

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It could be that we're not trying hard enough.

but it's probably that you're not a retard.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want a gold star!

I should make that my avatar or something

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're either not a retard

or you're such a huge retard that you're impervious to our threats.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 9, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

the uber-retard.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

You kidding? That guy was awesome.

He was like the kid in elementary school who kept taking shit from you because he didn't have any other "friends."

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 9, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Butters?

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

When I first saw "TOS" my first thought was: "The Original Series". Yes, that's how much of a Star Trek nerd I am.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 9, 2008 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

we're all nerds here

But nevertheless, I must crown you KING OF THE NERDS

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hail!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Apr 9, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the reminder

Though I think part of the craziness is related to how poorly the M's have been playing.

I know I had to take a few days off. Thank god for busy days and work.

by InSpokane on Apr 9, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

You know what's awesome?

Baseball. We should talk about that here sometime. Baseball is the great unifier.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

In that vein

I think Jon Garland is good.

I'll take "Poor Managerial Decisions" for $800, Alex

by mtn335 on Apr 9, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could you be more stupid?

You're wrong. Garland's a flyball pitcher with a plunging strikeout rate, and that's not a real strong recipe for success.

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah? Well,

I think you're stupid. So there.

Or, just as mature:
That is so a strong recipe for success.

I'll take "Poor Managerial Decisions" for $800, Alex

by mtn335 on Apr 9, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

can't do it

gets in the way of all those great beer recommendations.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know what's awesome?

Baseball and beer. We should talk about them here sometime. Baseball and beer are the great unifiers.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Please don't even mention beer..

I ended up drinking Coors Light last night with my beer-retarded softball team. Needless to say it was not pleasant.

Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, you live one crazy life.

But then again, I was painting my office, so you were at least doing something productive.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wrote 2 fundraising letters for a Nigerian Catholic College's reunion my first week doing this.

So yes... I do weird things. Yesterday I had to work all night because i overslept my alarm and didn't wake up until 1pm. So that's a thing.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello Rip Van Winkle.

1:00pm?!? What time does your alarm go off?

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

8:30.

And it's "alarms." I have 5 alarms, 3 of which repeat for an hour if I don't turn them off.

Yeah, it's messed up. I'm aware.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

....

... If that worked for me, this would be a pretty silly conversation, yeah?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need a new clock

perhaps one of these will fit the bill. (Not a rickroll)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well. Those are awesome.

What I currently have:

1) A clock that gets progressively louder and beeps faster until it sounds a little like a fire alarm. Stops when I click the alarm button.
2) Cell phone A, which has a "beat" that I made up that rings every 8 minutes until I click the "turn alarm off button" twice.
3) Cell phone A pt. 2 which is exactly the same thing except set 3 minutes later so that I don't have time to fall back asleep
4) Cell phone B which plays this REALLY annoying female scat jazz every 9 minutes until I hit the "turn alarm off button" twice.
5) cell phone B pt. 2 which plays the same song at a predesignated time, but shuts off after only one right regardless of my response, which sucks a little.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

you must be a sound sleeper.

I like the puzzle one in that link, but I fear it would last exactly one morning as I would, instead of finding the puzzle pieces, throw it against the wall when I couldn't shut it off any other way.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

unplug/pull out the batteries?

Taking out the batteries is a much easier puzzle. It's in reverse!

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chicken wouldn't work.

Puzzle is clever at least. Bouncing ball would piss off my dog.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must sleep like your dead, man...

I've overslept before, but usually only by an hour or something, and I have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning.

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I managed to somehow oversleep by four hours

two weeks ago. I've never had anything even remotely close happen before. And I wasn't even unusually tired or late to bed either. Rather off.

by Matthew on Apr 9, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I once planned to wake up at 10

And woke up at 4PM. 14 hours after I fell asleep.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matthew might have been abducted.

I think you might have a medical condition. I'm not a doctor, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I don't think that's normal.

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't happen all the time.

I don't sleep much.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would explain it.

You're a binge sleeper!

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, I do that all the time too.

Well, used to. I'd set my alarm for 10 AM class and wake up, look at my phone and.... WTF it's 5:30 PM!?!

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I slept through 3 finals.

2 with the same teacher. Oh well. Somehow I still aced those classes.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was community college, before I transferred to UW.

And you are correct. I had a class that, for homework, had us write down two sentences about a color, in the form of a simile. Yes, you read that right. You want to know how many people wrote "yellow, like a banana?" A fucktarded amount, that's how many.

Also, in that same class, an individual raised their hand and asked "how many paragraphs should be in the 5 paragraph essay?" Followed by another individual asking the same question because they did not hear the answer and three more people writing it down.

I hated that school.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the answer is clear

You need to fashion a device that drops something heavy on your balls when your alarm goes off.

by OlSalty on Apr 9, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that's what I have to wake up to.

I think I'd prefer to sleep. I don't NEED to wake up. I'm already technically "at work."

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not beer.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I was trying to explain to the guys.

I just can't figure out why I didn't just go grab myself a real beer, instead of letting them keep filling my glass with that crap. I guess free Coors Light is better than a kick in the balls, but it's not like I can't afford to by my own (good) beer.

Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I work so I can afford good beer.

but it is tough to turn down a free beer, I grant you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get angry

I just get disappointed again in the naivete of youth.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

It makes ALL of us get angry at Corco. Together. Unified in our aggression against Corco.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 9, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

point of clarification

users are still permitted to have second log in names right? Like "Scrappy, The Pup Who Laughs..." or "AK Interpreter" or things like that, right?

by johnbai on Apr 9, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Are those necessary?

I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded.

by Thingray on Apr 9, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as they are funny

They are part of what makes LL great.

by Robert on Apr 9, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

All spelling should be UK English.

I want to see those "U"'s.

And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...

by EnglishMariner on Apr 9, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Hwæt!?

WÄ“ scolde gefrunon word Englisc and forgyf ure yfele.

by Matthew on Apr 9, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, that's just awesome

I'll take "Poor Managerial Decisions" for $800, Alex

by mtn335 on Apr 9, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

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