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TOS Reminder

Don't be mean, unless you're Graham.

This wasn't meant as a joke. Obviously, as your loving tyrant, I reserve the right to be a total dick, and Matthew has carte blanche when Graham goes to sleep, but everyone else agreed to this when they signed up for the new site, and seeing as it's one of LL's precious few rules of conduct (the others being (1) no politics, (2) no porn, (3) no Corco baiting, and (4) no GTE outside of the designated GTE-approved time period between the start and end of a game), I expect people to abide by it.

"But Jeff," you ask, "what if somebody's talking nonsense?"

Stupid people tend to take being wrong rather poorly. Because they're stupid. That said, see if you can spot the difference between the following two examples.

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EXAMPLE 1:

Stupid Person: I think Jon Garland is good.
LL User: Could you be more stupid?

EXAMPLE 2:

Stupid Person: I think Jon Garland is good.
LL User:
You're wrong. Garland's a flyball pitcher with a plunging strikeout rate, and that's not a real strong recipe for success.

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Example 1 is being an asshole. Example 2 is being right (which is often confused for being an asshole by people who are wrong). Example 1 is bad. Example 2 is encouraged.

You can be wrong or you can be right all you like. But don't be mean, unless you're Graham (or Matthew, or me). If we catch you being mean or condescending or self-righteous for no reason, we'll put a target on your back, and believe me when I say that we're way better at being assholes than you are.

Update: from this point forward, if you attempt to impersonate another user, you're going to regret it. And that's a promise.

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I think Jon Garland is good

ERA+s of 128, 105, 112, lots of innings, projected ERA in the low 4s, what's not to like?

Seriously, though: GTE? Game-time excitement? Gorillas taking ecstacy?

by abelard on Apr 8, 2008 7:36 PM PDT   0 recs

LL User: You're wrong. Garland's a flyball pitcher with a plunging strikeout rate, and that's not a real strong recipe for success.

ERA+ is not a good indicator of future performance. If ERA is a bad stat, why say he's good simply because his ERA is better than league average.

I think I understand the tagging.....>_>

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 8, 2008 7:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Game Thread Entropy

There are no good E words, so unless we're planning on changing the acronym, that's all we've got.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 8, 2008 11:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gesticulating Timebombs of Epilepsy

The user formerly known as Sec 108.

by Sec 108 on Apr 9, 2008 10:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay, I'll rephrase

.No good E words if we keep "game thread"

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 8, 2008 7:56 PM PDT   0 recs

Here here.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 8, 2008 8:05 PM PDT   0 recs

Thanks for calling people out on this, Goose

Things were getting pretty out of hand there on a few occasions

by ningwers on Apr 8, 2008 8:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Related = "Barry Bonds" ?

Anyway, speaking of interesting ideas, Giants announcers complaining Lincecum needs to pitch more to contact.

by Fett42 on Apr 8, 2008 8:07 PM PDT   0 recs

There are TOS???

Free Barry Bonds

by JI on Apr 8, 2008 8:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Just to be clear

Should I avoid spinners, flies, worms? Not sure what kind of bait he prefers.

The user formerly known as Sec 108.

by Sec 108 on Apr 9, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's not what I heard

I heard you were a MASTER at baiting yourself.

by johnbai on Apr 9, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well damn

I can see I'm not going to last long with that TOS.... bummer.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 8, 2008 8:35 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeah, it's got kinda out of hand there

It went from lighthearted teasing to bullying, and that's no fun.

by OlSalty on Apr 8, 2008 8:41 PM PDT   0 recs

Can we put "No Impersonating Coach Owens"

as a rule

Hi guys! If my impersonator doesn't stop, I'll kill him.

by Coach Owens on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM PDT   0 recs

LL user: Oh, but Coach Owens is a respected member of the community, we can't have anybody

tarnishing his good name.

Hi guys! If my impersonator doesn't stop, I'll kill him.

by Coach Owens on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Redwolf

That would be my guess.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 8, 2008 9:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ahahaha

Prophetic!

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 8, 2008 11:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That doesn't fit any of the examples

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Apr 8, 2008 9:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I would've bought into this

but then you created that sig.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 8, 2008 9:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Speaking of which, I propose that impersonating

other users should be an insta-ban.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Certainly something like that

TAKE NOTICE:

I talked to the devs today and they're working on a fix for the username impersonation bug, but in the meantime, if we see anyone else doing that, you'll get some sort of punishment. 24-hour ban or something. Not sure.

by Jeff on Apr 8, 2008 11:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

all fake names have been banned. And since I can tell who created them, the next person to try it gets both his names banned.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 12:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just a technical question

Are we allowed to impersonate ourselves?

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 9, 2008 12:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And also, Jesus Christ

How old are you? It's time to grow up.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 12:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have, mostly

I'd say my maturity level is about 5 years younger on the internet, making me almost 15

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 9, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're not invincible.

Just because I'm more lenient than USSM doesn't mean I can't be persuaded to change. Pull more shit like you did tonight and you're not long for the blogosphere.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 12:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

Because you've said that before. And either you didn't understand or you just decided to blow it off a week later.

Listen to me very carefully, right now:

This is your last warning. The next time you pull stupid bullshit or let yourself get baited when i KNOW you know better, it's a week off. The time after that, it's permanent.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 12:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

OK, fair enough

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 9, 2008 12:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow.

This is just like DARE in Jr High... I didn't read much of the later GT, but now I really have to see what the fuss is about.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The TOS Reminder was prompted by Game thread 1

The comments above refer to roughly the middle to end of game thread 3.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 1:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

i was mainly reading in part II, as I fell asleep right as RRS was coming in. I always feel bad that Jeff has to deal with people acting like complete retards.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

RE: account duplication

I meant acting like retards with imitating people. I think everyone here, from time to time, wants to break down and tell someone to stfu.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's an interesting idea

but yeah, people are too attached to their pseudo identities. I use librocrat to keep my real name off the internet, but it's still associated with me, generally. If someone stole it and, say, used it on another website, that would be frustrating.

comma

When I saw that SB reserved it for me, I was pleased.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 1:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I use my real last name

I get sick of the pseudo identity game. Kinda one of the problems with the internet-- the whole deal with people feel its okay to trash someone if its over a computer and BigCarrotIndiansFan is the target.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 1:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah that's easy for you to say,

you're Mr. Batura, you have a cool sounding name. Alright look if it's no big deal to be Mr. Pink, do you wanna trade?

by coolguyrob on Apr 9, 2008 2:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

Batura is rarely called cool sounding :) Its not because I like the sound of my name, its just its typically a unique id on most systems, otherwise I'd use ScottB. That was my original gmail account name before some guy from Malaysia jacked my account and I got in some strange hacker duel with him.

by batura on Apr 9, 2008 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, the issue is not that I care about what people say about me.

The issue is that when I apply to graduate school, and a researcher googles my name, I don't want them to see all this stuff I'm doing. When I'm older, sure - what do I care? But when it may actually affect my life, I'd prefer to keep it off.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 10:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hey...

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 1:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

For the record, the TOS Reminder has been a long time coming

Game thread 1 was bad, but it wasn't the only factor.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 1:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Either way,

I tend to prompt several reminders and public statements, regardless of whether or not I'm the initial cause of them.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 1:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Though I'm on here enough that that's not difficult.

The odds are in my favor... or against me, depending on how you look at it.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 9, 2008 1:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Glad they're fixing it

That was pretty ridiculous

by OlSalty on Apr 9, 2008 12:15 AM PDT   0 recs

For clarification:

What is Corco baiting? and what or who is Corco?

by Alaska on Apr 9, 2008 12:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Corco = I'm NOT Corco, previously David J Corcoran

Corco baiting is the act of trying to make him go crazy by posting about things like Idaho and American cars. It was funny once, it's not anymore, and I'd just as soon never have to see it again as long as I live.

by Jeff on Apr 9, 2008 12:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Proposal for Corcobating Rule:

Subsection A: Only people from or in Idaho can talk about Idaho. Users who fail to respect the difficult relationship between Idahoans and their awful/awesome state will be punished by being compelled to look at pictures of Gov. "Butch" Otter in tight jeans for no more than five minutes. Repeated violations will result in Gov. "Butch" Otter divorcing his thirty-years younger wife and subsequently marrying your teenage sister.

Subsection B: No one is allowed to mention "Idaho" and "Potatoes" in the same sentence for any reason. Saying "EOF must be from Idaho, because he is some awesome Potatoes!" is grounds for disembowelment.

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 9, 2008 8:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I concur

(and that's all I'm going to say)

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, come on

You couldn't get a Larry Craig joke in there?

And I grew up in Boise and my whole family lives there, I can say that ;)

I'll take "Poor Managerial Decisions" for $800, Alex

by mtn335 on Apr 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In Good News:

The M's won tonight. I think this is a good thing.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 9, 2008 12:48 AM PDT   0 recs

Wow, a couple days off and you guys

go nuts without me.

This is like when you take a vacation from your family and then you return to find out your mom slept with the postal worker while your sister was boinking your best friend in your bed.

Right?

...........................

by brayden04 on Apr 9, 2008 2:16 AM PDT   0 recs

Hahaha

I don't think it happens a lot in my family, but I haven't been home in so long that I don't really know!

I don't know if my sister is hot, I mean, that's kinda messed up if I said she was. So therefore I will go with she is not hot.

by brayden04 on Apr 9, 2008 2:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Iono, I think if your sister is actually hot you can get around the "no saying your sister is hot" rule

like for example, one of my friends has a really hot sister, and he doesn't mind telling people that his sister is hot (she's on the dance team at UCI - she's actually pretty hot). But then one day he got drunk and started running around a party telling people he didn't know "have you seen my sister? She's really hot!"

This comment made no sense.

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 8:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know

I think it's more of a terminology deal. If your sister is hot, you can certainly say "my sister is beautiful/pretty/whatever" and convey the same point. Saying your sister is hot implies that you are sexually attracted to her.

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 9, 2008 8:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, you could say she's hot and still be proud of it

but I don't have a sister. I wouldn't know.

by seattlebruin on Apr 9, 2008 9:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I just read the rest of the third game thread.

And now I wish I hadn't. My brain STILL hurts. >_<

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 9, 2008 7:44 AM PDT   0 recs

good times

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My computer had to pick yesterday afternoon to die

I come in to work this morning, think "wow, I'll catch up on some LL now" and now my brain is spinning. I can't decide whether it's out of pure amusement, bemusement, horror, or what, but it was an interesting read, for sure.

And can I take this as yet another opportunity to thank Jeff et al for the thankless job of wrangling the herd of rabid cats that is the LL community? Especially on days like yesterday, it can't be easy and the laid-backness of your approach 99% of the time is definitely appreciated and why I keep hanging out here.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 9, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

No way I'd have the patience Jeff has.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 9, 2008 8:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jeff recites a mantra of "Serenity Now" before reading these posts

It appears to be working so far. I don't think Jeff has ever banned anyone.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 9, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But he was the Joker to your Batman!!!

Did you get tired of him pointing out everyone's dangling modifiers and comma-splices?

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 9, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs