4/7: Open Game Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
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PrintSeattle Mariners at Baltimore Orioles, Apr 7, 2008 12:05 PM PDT
Ichiro CF Roberts 2B
Lopez 2B Mora 3B
Ibanez "LF" Markakis RF
Beltre 3B Millar 1B
Wilkerson RF Huff DH
Sexson 1B Scott LF
Vidro DH Hernandez C
Johjima C Jones CF
Betancourt SS Hernandez SS---------- ----------
Silva SP Cabrera SP
Tracking Daniel Cabrera's average fastball:
2005: 96.2mph
2006: 94.8
2007: 94.3
2008: 92.2 (1 start)
I don't know what the Orioles are trying to do here, but it isn't working, as Cabrera's throwing fewer strikes, fewer groundballs, and steadily moving further and further away from the breakthrough superstar candidate that he was three years ago. Now almost 27, it seems unlikely that he'll suddenly take the next step, so I'll just go ahead and predict that before too long someone'll move him to the bullpen in an attempt to harness his batshit tendencies and use them for good. I don't know if it'll work, but would you want to face him? I'd be scared for my life.
Also, Carlos Silva.
LET'S GO MARINERS!!
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I wouldn't be surprised
if Cabrera's arm was hurt.
Pitch release data on Cabrera
I can't remember where, but I recall seeing the graphical display of Cabrera's pitching release point(s), and it was, well um, diverse.
Is this a constant problem for tall pitchers?
Go Fo Broke!
I dunno
it seems reasonably consistent to me.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Garcia was consistent too, wasn't he?
He arm slowly but surely gave out. Both guys have similarly reckless but natural fling-it-in motions. Cabrera could be slowly but surely giving out.
I think
that the last time we said that about Cabrera we ended up shelling him. Yup : http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=270809101 HoRam and Cabrera each gave up 7 ER but Ho got the win. Goes to show you that Horacio>Felix because at least Ho can beat the Orioles.
If Silva can pitch a complete game, we'll be okay.
Damn. We won' t be okay, will we?
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Just thinking about this is killing me
I'm already in a pretty crappy mood seeing as how it's my first day back in the office after a long weekend in Vegas, and my brother won't stop gloating about the bets we made on Saturday (I foolishly took the M's, standing pat with my team, while he took the Orioles straight-up, no spread). On the plus side, I won't be home in time to watch the game. Not sure I could handle that level of torment today.
Free Barry Bonds
If it's any consolation
your brother is stupid.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I love games on during work hours
when my boss is away for the day.
How about that
Richie gets dropped to the 6 hole
I fucking hate you Mariners
Our 5-8 hitters....
SUCK donkey balls
I fucking hate you Mariners
I liked that better
For the microsecond I'd only read "Richie gets dropped"
Free Barry Bonds
On yahoo
the lineup has Beltre at 4, Wilkerson, and then Richie
I fucking hate you Mariners
Beltre after Ibanez?
What happened to his preferring to hit behind righties?
by iheartjavelinas on Apr 7, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
So Sexson gets moved after after two days when he was actually hitting pretty well?
Does McLaren work on a time delay, or does he just have to wait for the box scores to get translated into Moron?
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 7, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Wilkersuck gets
moved up..... still a big glaring hole in the lineup with him in there.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Cabrera: Three True Outcome (Sort of) Pitcher
Cabrera 2007:
18.0% K/PA
11.7% BB/PA
49% GB%
Nearly 80% of his batters faced end in a strikeout, walk, or groundball.
Stupid MLB.tv question:
If you've already purchased a basic plan, how do you go about upgrading to the premium one? I imagine they just let you pay the difference, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on their awesomely designed site.
Call them.
Last year I bought just the radio package, then decided I wanted to upgrade to the full product. I called the MLB.tv help line and what they did was charge me the full $130 for the premium package, then credited back the money I had spent on MLB Radio back to my credit card. So they gave me my money back, but not immediately. So you might have to "pay for both" for a couple days before you get your refund back on your card, so just make sure there's enough money in your account to cover both costs for a short time period..
Just to add to this . . .
MLB was very cool about this when I made the change. Any company in its right mind is going to be helpful when you're trying to give them more money. So you should be cool.
Cool, thanks
Though it would be nice if they just had an upgrade option on their site. Ahh, but that's Major League Baseball, isn't it?
Just don't ask where
i did this last year and I had to wade through a whole forest of links - it may be easier/less annoying to sit there on hold for a while.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
You have to unsubscribe from the one you have
then subscribe to the premium one. You can do this online or on the phone - phone wait times are absurd right now so online may be your better bet.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
yeah its that splitting the lineup
with LH/RH hitter crap again...
so going into today our lineup consists of
Ichiro - .558 (ops)
Lopez- .984
Ibanez - .815
Beltre - .876
Wilkersuck - .367
Sexson - .810
Vidro - .558
Johjima - .328
Betancourt - .857
Either you've got a good OPS or its total WFB time... ugh.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
You son of a bitch.
Now that's in my head. Thanks.
Who cares about OPS 6 games into the season?
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Evidently I do Since I posted it
its nothing written in stone but its soething to talk about..... you don't have to be an ass if you don't agree with something, read it and move on.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I like being an ass to people who think that this bullshit matters 6 games into a season
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
and I like being an ass right back
to people who have nothing better to do then pretend they know everything... so go fuck yourself.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah let's not do this
there's plenty of room for several assholes here.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
no problem Jeff.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
nope not angry
I'll just wait til the end of the day for another Mrs. McLaren post. :)
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank God I suck at remembering dreams
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
even so you're still dreamin' of her.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 7, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If there's one thing in life that Jeff loves
It's a wide variety of assholes to choose from.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 7, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You might not be able to tell
but you're currently being seduced.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The way the M's have been so patient
Wouldn't surprise me if Cabrera walked a ton today. Then again, it also wouldn't surprise me if he pitched a SO. Let's just hope Sexson and Wilkerson doesn't swing today.
For those of you soccer/football inclined
The team name, colors, logo for Seattle's new MLS side are gonna be announced at a press conference in like five minutes on mlsinseattle.com
So how does this work
Do they have to buy the naming rights from the original Sounders club? Is that club going away now that we have MLS? I haven't followed closely, but I'd like to know more
Free Barry Bonds
The current second division Seattle franchise already had the name
and there is some overlap in the ownership between the two. But I will defer to Nick on the specifics.
by G_ on Apr 7, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounders owner Haneuer (sp)
is part owner of the MLS team. No problem with the naming rights.
More importantly
did they bring back the old Sounders theme song?
by G_ on Apr 7, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they going to start that press conference?
All I see on this feed is a bunch of jerks shaking eachothers hands and smiling stupidly into the feed.
So what lameass excuse is MLB.tv going to give me...
as for why I'm blacked out of Baltimore games while living in Philadelphia?
Checking my zip code on their little thing...
Cleary states that I can not watch the Phillies (and why would I want to do that anyway?).
No mention of the Orioles anyway.
Wait, did MLB.tv finally smarten up?
Actually, I like it a few years ago when they would have both feeds, but you had to refresh it over and over until you finally caught onto the feed you wanted. But, I am guessing this slowed down the performance. And now they have it so you know what you are getting everyday. I like it, other than long road trips suck.
That reminds me
anyone notice in Ervin Santana's last start how hard he was throwing? I thought he had a 95mph FB on a good day but sat around 93-94 usually. His last start he was still hitting 98 on the gun as his pitch count hit 100.
the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 7, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions
More likely that the gun was off than anything else
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
sure hope so
He was pretty stellar against the Twins, and I was getting worried. Then I looked at their lineup.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 7, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
His average fastball last start was 95.8
that's actually a substantial improvement.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe just because it's early in the season
so less fatigued?
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
Possible, but definitely encouraging for you guys
Now I'm logging off so I don't spoil any of the game.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
All right, looks like I'll be watching on archive again later on
hope this isn't as big of a waste of time as Friday. >:(
Even though I didn't get to see it...
ICHIRO RUINS BASEBALL BY HITTING FUNK BLASTS
Damn college book store
ooks like I'm missing a great game
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cabrera isn't the same power pitcher...
it's sad to see. 3-2 breaking balls. but good for us.
I'm calling Vidro's third funk blast here.
Call it a hunch.
Running up his pitch count
Maybe they'll be consistent with it this time and not let him pitch 7 or 8 innings.
Fuck off with all the misguided love for a shifty bench bat
Wilkerson is good
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 7, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
average defensive RF with .800ish OPS is pretty good
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 7, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
if he could play defense we'd be on to something
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
From The: Who Didn't See That Coming Department
So, I bet on Seattle three straight days and watch in horror as they lose to a team they are far superior than all weekend loss. Stunned. Yesterday, as all of you know, was soul-numbing.
Like clockwork, I finally cut my losses and the team I expected to see all weekend shows up in the first inning against the awful O's.
Good grief.
by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Apr 7, 2008 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
I'm calling you stupid.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Apr 7, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick heads-up
I'm mostly AWOL due to work, but I'm on my lunch break, and the Minor League Wrap-Up for last night is now up, right below the Game Thread on the Main Page.
GO MARINERS.
You know what I like about Silva
Fast paced games. That's gotta count for at least 1 million a year.
Sexson
Is a big part of the reason that the Mariners kill left-handed pitching. But he's no different from the guy he's always been for them - high-risk, high-reward. Kind of like a bizarro Adam Dunn. Or, because of the lefty-righty-thing there's a good chance they were separated at birth. And, to be fair, he did come up big for them yesterday before the bullpen peed down its leg.
by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Apr 7, 2008 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
When Markakis came up the 3rd time...
how do you not take Silva out????
I'm pretty sure that
69 runs is no where near the league lead.
If the car's not moving, then I'm not impressed
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Gathright would have jumped over Millar.
But seriously, that is one of the few times a headfirst slide to first would work.
I'm so pumped about the Sounders FC
Not even the Mariners can fuck this day up
I fucking hate you Mariners
Routine ground ball to second
and for some reason Sexson thinks he should make a play on it, so he dives, comes up 5 feet short, and as the ball rolls slowly by him Lopez picks it up and makes the throw to Silva covering at first.
"Sexson has a very underrated glove out there"
bite me mlb08
Silva's kinda sucking
I like grounders. I don't like doubles and long fly balls.
Please, for the love of God greaseface
HAPPY AARP DAY!
Kind of the opposite of Felix day.
SO GLAD TO BE BACK.
And get TV in time for a game? I'm just so happy.
...and now I'm here
We want Jones to get better...
So he's not allowed to face good pitching? What the hell kind of sense does that make?
There might be 3k people there
I fucking hate you Mariners
I can't believe how rich this team made that fat fuck
worst. contract. ever.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
There's more than one reason I call him "THIEF!"
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Apr 7, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
If you were the O's,
wouldn't you let all the fans in the park come sit in the box seats? It's pretty sad to see empty seats from the batter-pitcher camera.
Arthur Rhodes says 'NOOOO!"
I fucking hate you Mariners
Most likely.
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 7, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
with his eyes closed
I fucking hate you Mariners
With Silva's contract
I think he should have to play goalie for the Sounders FC team for free
I fucking hate you Mariners
SWEEEEEEEEEEEP
Go Sounders!! hahaha
I fucking hate you Mariners
What's with all the FB's?
I thought Silva was a GB pitcher. Throw the sinker dammit!
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
It hit an empty seat! only like a 10,000 out of 10,500 chance!
I fucking hate you Mariners
So, anybody else ready to watch Bedard and Felix
And take the other 3 days off?
Ugh..Wilk...seriously
I fucking hate you Mariners
We always pick up players
that had some value..but many years ago...we like reclamation projects, however, we suck at them.
I fucking hate you Mariners
wilk being shitty doesnt so much bother me
wilk not being replaced by wlad/morse until august or never does
you do realize that Morse sucks right?
and I mean, significantly moreso than Wilkerson.
Sex Son
I guess that is an improvement from Sexton.
Also when did Sexson grow an inch?
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Wilk and Sexson
We walk or strikeout...hmmm
I fucking hate you Mariners
If they do them with roughly equal frequency I'm happy
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
but hitting .150-.225?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Well in the short term
I know SSS..but how long before it's not?
I fucking hate you Mariners
couple months
but I have a hard time believing Wlikerson's going to put up a .100 BABIP.
I think Wilkerson will do better
But I'm not sure you can have two similar players like Wilk/Sexson in the same lineup, let alone hitting back to back. They are like Dunn without the power and without the high walk rate.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Wilkerson's BABIP is .100.
Tiny sample sizes all around. He doesn't look great at the plate, but at least he's walking.
I LOVE YOU BELTRE!
I fucking hate you Mariners
IN PLAY (RUNS)
the bane and reason for my existence
AGGRESSIVE BASERUNNING!
and awesome inattentiveness by Cabrera
That was awesome.
Turbo and King Awesome working together.
Better than Beltre's slides.
Or Guillen's
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
No.... Vidro likey hot dogs? Yum yum.
I'm in an odd sorta mood.
stepped away for a second and I only have the gameday chart
did beltre just pull a willie mays hayes?
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
I think we have what happened to the dissappearing umpire
Red did it!! "GET AWAY FROM MY BOY!!"
I fucking hate you Mariners
Based on the number of times Rizzs has called that play "heads-up"
we're going to have to start calling Beltre Cerberus, or some multiple thereof.
A MARINER FAN!!! BAHHAHA
Fuck you mariner fan!
I fucking hate you Mariners
OMG..I would die!!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Silva
I dread to think how fat he gets in the off-season if this is him in "competitive shape".
A guy in M's gear Bartmanned a foul popup Raul was reaching for
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sign this man up for the NAMbLA mailing list
...c/o his mother's house.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how Luke Scott records every at-bat.
When players get sold on doing that shit, it's like being told to write your goals down. Well, you know what, if you quit concentrating on writing that shit down, you might get off your ass and do something. Luke Scott hasn't, and probably won't, realize recording every at-bat is not going to turn him into Barry Bonds. While it is impressive to people like Gary Thorne and Jim Palmer, in reality it is just plain stupid.
And your opinion matters how?
I kid, I kid.
If it's a skill, it's a skill as much as confidence is a skill.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I would argue that it certainly doesn't hurt to be confident in your ability to hit in a "clutch" situation
but yes, I agree that it's certainly not a skill.
Even then, it would manifest as something that correlates year to year
The sample size required to tease 'clutchiness' out is in the order of 10 seasons and it makes hardly any difference anyway. So it's a skill that's impossible to measure and doesn't effect anything, if it is a skill.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely not a repeatable skill
Which I guess is redundant since if something is a skill it should be repeatable by definition.
Mental skill?
What, is he doing math calculations as he sees the ball coming toward the plate?
Tell me, doesn't every player carry this specific trait? What makes that at-bat any different than if no one was on base?
Didn't we discuss this before?
Like, you cannot be "clutch" but you can be "not clutch" (ie, pressure actually gets to you and you become a worse hitter)
...and now I'm here
There's no evidence that this happens, really
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you happen to have a linky somewhere, Graham?
I would honestly be a little surprised if it had been proven that some players aren't slightly worse in clutch situations than others
It's just (more or less) from a BBTN chapter
If anyone would have links here it's Matthew
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, no
I don't have links to clutch studies handy because I figure by now you either accept the vast overwhelming evidence out there or you don't.
Try searching through BaseballThinkFactory
K will do after work.
It's not that I don't believe you - I would just like to see the evidence or lack thereof myself.
really? There's no evidence people can do worse than their average?
I believe you, but I do find that surprising.
...and now I'm here
Hypothesis:
If a batter is clutch in a situation, this makes the pitcher un-clutch.
If a batter is un-clutch in a situation, this makes the pitcher clutch.
Clutchness is a zero-sum product.
Therefore, being clutch doesn't actually exist.
A hitter may fare better in certain "pressure" situations, but their success may be attributed to facing un-clutch pitching rather than them actually being clutch themselves.
Yeah but you could make that argument for all at-bats
There should be a large enough sample size with "clutch" at bats that you would see a normal distribution of ABs vs "clutch" and "un-clutch" pitchers
"Yeah but you could make that argument for all at-bats"
Bingo
"There should be a large enough sample size with "clutch" at bats that you would see a normal distribution of ABs vs "clutch" and "un-clutch" pitchers"
Bingo 2x
It's really easy to believe that no players would be consistently better in "clutch" situations
because then you would just say "do that all the time you fuckbag."
But like I said, I would definitely be a little surprised (not overly so, but a little) if it were true that some hitters consistently perform worse in "clutch" situations - the kind of guys who let little things get to them
The conventional explanation for that:
Nobody who lets it get to them like that makes it to the majors due to the emphasis on being a clutch hitter.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying it would be a dramatic effect, because yeah
anyone who let pressure get to them that badly would never succeed as a professional athlete.
Of course in that case it might just fall into the category of "things that we can't measure and are probably too small of an effect to notice anyway," which you stated above.
RAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL
...and now I'm here
Well I'm happy about the outcome
at least. Man reply to self = fail.
This is my first MLB.TV game thread :-(
Im right there with ya
by seattlesundevil on Apr 7, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even have damn mlb.tv... apparently, I am blacked out in SD
I'm on ESPN gametracker.
Silva..LOOK
that strike zone is enormous..use it!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Raul/Ichiro/Beltre
My fantasy team thanks you. :^)
Today your fantasy team thanks them.
But at the end of the year, your fantasy team is going to kick you in the balls.
That makes me sad
I wish Wilk could do that
I fucking hate you Mariners
Jones hit to to once place...
that he wouldn't have caught it. Just to give it to the man.
Even AFTER hitting the ball...
...Adam Jones would still have caught that.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
I think Palmer is onto something
like Jose and Pepe Vidro.
Silva reminds me of...
A taller, more latino version of Danny DeVito as the penguin in Batman Returns.
Oh, Wilk...good god
I fucking hate you Mariners
There you big Richie
you still have an ugly swing
I fucking hate you Mariners
Oh Richie
no one cares if y ou're a nice guy. We want you to hit better.
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First hit off Cabrera?
Hmmm. Maybe Sexson doesn't suck after all.
Naaaaaaah...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
Richie for All-Star?
What can I say, I'm ready for the ASG already
Back Spasm DP time
I fucking hate you Mariners
Time for a lil DP action..
And not the good kind
Kenji is done too
I fucking hate you Mariners
But Clement is good
Not as good as the other two, sure. But good
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Loss of bat speed
Did that turn out to be a load of rubbish?
He looked fine in the majors
Didn't see him in Tacoma at all
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
But, we drafted him because we needed a catcher. And it's probably even odds that he never actually catches in the Major Leagues productively
his defensive problems are overstated.
Ramon Hernandez has a major league catching job. Jeff Clement is likely to as well.
If we could get a nice backup
It'd be cool to have them split up the catching duties 4/1 constantly, and have Clement DH the 5th...keep him fresh. Unlike Johjima who always catches and wears down
I fucking hate you Mariners
In moderation my friend
I fucking hate you Mariners
Well, it's not like I'm rooting against the kid
I want to see him do well, obviously - but I heard he was a ways off. Of course, overstated counts for something, so I'll take it for what it is
He's a ways below average and improving
He's not a disaster or anything
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sort of biased
Clement is my favourite Mariner.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ramon Hernandez is perceived as a good defensive catcher
perceived
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I choose to read this as commentary on the MSM
and not on my unending yield of typos
we need spellcheck in the subject line
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And we coulda had Lincecum too
seriously, the one time they pass up a hometown player...
Straight and to the point haha
And now the announcers are harping on our lack of patience. Thanks.
by seattlesundevil on Apr 7, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I got my fertilizer
I got my bag of nails
It's time to make a Yunibomb!
Well there goes the last run-scoring chance
we'll see today.
Yuni got into one oppo.. wow
But :-( nonetheless.
No
If your head explodes how am I going to collect my money.
But he has to get back out there and forget about yesterday!!!
I can hear the Presser now..
by seattlesundevil on Apr 7, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave Trembley
Loves dramatic pauses.....even when......he has nothing.....to say other than....."We have to pitch.....especially starting pitch...."
What Luke Scott was actually writing in his notebook
"It's only Carlos Silva...
It's only Carlos Silva...
It's only Carlos Silva...
It's only Carlos Silva...
It's only Carlos Silva..."
Well, at least Silva seems to have calmed down.
But he couldn't have fucking done this before he gave up four runs?
I think he means the kind that is BELTRE
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Walker is the one with giant platoon splits, right?
So this is Lopez's chance to do some damage?
Vegeta, what does the scanner say about his power level?!
It's OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! *boom*
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 7, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah Ichiro!
Extra ice creams for you tonight. 1600.... awesome.
Raul vs the Lefty
woot
I fucking hate you Mariners
Raul took him deep last year
to start his non-sucking streak.
It's not like Ichiro couldn't have just stolen that base.
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I do not like you Mac
I fucking hate you Mariners
Should have made Ichiro try to swipe 2nd
Ramon can't throw anyone out.
Oh, man.
For a sec, I thought the bunt might actually make a tiny bit of sense, but then I remembered that Ibanez was up.
Orioles manager>Mariners manager
I fucking hate you Mariners
Shit they are going to make Mac make a decision.
Disaster ensuing.
Career .819 OPS vs. LHP for Wilkerson
Career suck OPS vs. pitching for Morse.
Good call, Squinty.
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I've always defended Wilkerson
You fuckers are crazy for preferring Morse to him.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
I'd take Wilk there to, at least he couldl walk.
I still like him as a sub, but not as a regular.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Annnnd another mention of Morse's .500 spring
Thanks Palmer
Mike fucking Morse?
GEE WILL THEY BRING IN THE RIGHTY?
Way to screw us out of an inning assclown
Free Barry Bonds
McLaren: Aha, Baltimore, now I have you in my trap!
Trembley: Your trap is Mike Morse?
McLaren: *sad clown*
Well, half the people who comment on USSM are in the Morse trap
So it's pretty compelling
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be in favor of a big Mike Morse Sux post
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing we have all those righties on the bench
I fucking hate you Mariners
Wait.... Wilkerson was hitting in front of Sexson today?!?
How did I not know this earlier. I am being lulled into the losing ways of the Mariners.
He's going to hit a home run. He's going to hit a home run.
He's going to hit a home run.
Yeah,
who didn't see that pitching change a mile away?
Lower your hand Mac, we know.
He gets to play defense afterwards!
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
it's too bad we sent Jimerson down,
he'd be perfect to sub in for Morse afterwards...
Subs are for computer brained pussies.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
NUMBERS
Mac...looks at Wilk's numbers vs. a lefty...don't just look at him being a lefty. should have pinch hit for Raul if anyone fucker
I fucking hate you Mariners
I leave my cube for 5 minutes to move my car
and when I get back, I find out that Mac is at it again! FAIL!
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The poster formerly known as Matt.
by bluemax on Apr 7, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Guess no one told Morse
that the opposing batter's box is a strike
I fucking hate you Mariners
Jesus H. Christ
is the ump watching the same game!?
BAHAH..Morse in the OF
DIE Mac
I fucking hate you Mariners
Just to reiterate:
Mike Morse sucks, but that at-bat was in no way reflective of his skills as a baseball player.
Brian Roberts is a cockmonkey
Not sure what a cockmonkey is, but if you're looking for one, he's your man
They only way you earn your veteran grit is by having TJ surgery done.
Lowe had his already. Rhodes and Reitsma, too. Don't forget Bedard. Felix came close enough last season we will let him pass.
YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME
EOF Warming Up??
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNN!!!!!
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
C-Los
Living up to my irrational expectations, one pitch at a time.
...and now I'm here
WHAT THE FUCK IS POTATOES DOING IN THE PEN!?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?
Mac is aware that there is another lefty in the pen
right? RIGHT!?
Just for the record, I called this 20 minutes ago
Five bucks says EOF throws today
by seattlebruin on Apr 7, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply reply
Well, Holmgren clearly isn't stupid
I bet he figured this would all happen, and we would find ourselves missing him.
Well, mission fucking accomplished Grover.
My mind is french toast thanks to Potatoes in the bullpen.
I TOLD you all my head would explode. And sure as shit, it did.
HAHA!*@*(!
This is sooooooo funny how bad Mac is....I don't get it. Is managing so difficult that 90% of fans know what Mac is doing is retarded?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Last night I had a dream
In my dream, I asked McClaren why he doesn't trust Ryan Rowland-Smith.
He responded that he knew RRS was our best lefty arm, but he didn't have the detective skills necessary to conduct a thorough investigation.
Hey, nobody said dreams have to make sense.
If John McLaren were to go to sleep during a game
would be better or worse off?
Same spot Morse got called for a strike
I fucking hate you Mariners
7 Inn, 101 pitches, 0 BB, 5K, 1HR
That's a ~3.7 FIP for the start.
WHEW!
Thank you Carlos.. can we try to not suck on offense now please?
Richie, Turbo, Back Spasms
Not looking good.
how's richie actually looking?
K, BB, 2B doesn't seem like a horrible line when you factor in my rock bottom expectations for the guy... even if it is in balmer vs. cabrera.
Free Barry Bonds
Uh
On GameTracker, ball and strike 3 were in the same spot...
that's a little deceptive
the movement on the pitches was different; the ball was a slider that came in on the hitter. the strike was more of a sinking fastball. They both got plate, though.
Bullpen changes imminent?
Not Rick White, but I'd rather see this Rick in the 8th anyway...
Free Barry Bonds
So does this batter
annnd he flies out.
by seattlesundevil on Apr 7, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
O hay I got back from class and we're not losing
This day just gets better
Niehaus getting some love from the O's broadcast as well
EOF is up in the pen
Don't get too excited
by seattlesundevil on Apr 7, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
3 up, 3 down
Who could have possibly of seen that coming?
Why not just have a six man pitching staff
and call up Wlad and Clement to bat
Sounds great
If by "bat", you mean sit on the bench while the veterans play
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Bottom of the 8th:
Adam Jones homerun
Top of the 9th:
George Sherrill strikes out the side for the save
Karma is a bitch when it came to the Bedard trade. I am not surprised whatsoever Bedard sat out this series.
I am laughing to myself at this stupidity.
are you fucking kidding me?
After that pitch, he is now.
...and now I'm here
mclaren would fail an IQ test...
he wouldn't get a single question right. I really think the man is retarded
Fuck EOF. Where's RRS?
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
So, who didn't see that coming?
Other than our manager?
I'm sick of people saying it's too early in the season to fire our manager. HE FUCKING BLOWS.
How much longer can this go on?
I mean - seriously.
I feel bad for EOF actually.
He's a pretty decent pitcher when he's used somewhat correctly and not every day.
i don't think anyone denies this.
...and now I'm here
THANK GOD
the windows in my office don't open. It's looking like a promising 8 story drop right now.
Free Barry Bonds
Mac, the fucktard, better cry
Pouting fucking piece of shit.
I fucking hate you Mariners
It is...it's really comical how bad this team is managed.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I still don't understand how we downgraded from Hargrove
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we have Dan Rohn please?
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
We hired a retarded primate.
...and now I'm here
It was a significant one too
Makes you wonder who's stupid enough to pay this man hundreds of thousands of dollars annually to suck ass at what he does and torture an entire fanbase.
Okay this time there really was no excuse.
Two days in a row. He's gassed.
PULL HIM!!!
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
I love EOF
This is not really a reflection on his ability to pitch at all.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
RRS is probably headed to the DL
because of left arm atrohpy
How about McLaren --------> Tacoma
I have no problem with EOF when he's used properly, Eric is just plain gassed and shouldn't be used as often as he has been.
i really can't believe how fucking dumb Squinty McFuckface is
the definition of insanity again?
This reminds me
Of that time in the 2001 WS when Brenley put out Kim two nights in a row. He promptly proceeded to blow each game.
EOF isn't this bad
just overused early obviously...Mac is fucking douchebag...anyone know where he lives..I'd like to leave some shit at his doorstep.
I fucking hate you Mariners
This is his third straight day throwing
and he has pitched in just about every game thus far. He's gassed, he needs a day off.
RRS available. Mac is an idiot.
Anytime now....
Someone needs to go to a game with a sign that says:
'Call Barry Bonds'
Get some, like they need it, negative attention on this offense. THERE ARE BETTER OPTIONS. Wlad is one, Babe Ruth, I mean, BB is another.
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
Im going to bring one to the game
5/17 against the friars section 112 row 5.
by Fin on Apr 7, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
on the bright side, 7 games played
7 games in which we've lead at some point.
because a league average manager
magically pulls JJ on the second game and sends Felix out yesterday against his wishes?
EOF got lit up yesterday
NOW this, where is RRS
YES ALASKA WHERE IS HE?!?!?!?!?
FUCK squnity mc fuck squint
I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.
McLaren is an albino donkey's anal wart.
I hope he falls painfully on the fat end of a baseball bat causing him to shit through his nose the rest of his life.
...and now I'm here
Mac broke USSMariner again
he's not good for anything
I fucking hate you Mariners
Geoff Baker's
gonna have a heckuva time explaining this one.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
oh, but he will...
just because its early doesn't mean stupidity is excused... manager magoo ruined my weekend and now he's killing my monday too.
Jack Perconte choked up.
by GothamMariner on Apr 7, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll find it hard.
I just think none of us will agree with any of it.
...and now I'm here
all I heard was "Sexson" and "reach around"
...and now I'm here
Hit a HR Adam..do it..I dont care!
I fucking hate you Mariners
EOF
Seems to be doing worse against lefties. Thought he's not exactly shutting down anyone at the moment. Surely fatigue has nothing to do with it.
Thank God I have today off of work..
I would be delightfully pissed off at the world if I had to deal with people.
I just fired two people...
Just 'cuz.
Jack Perconte choked up.
by GothamMariner on Apr 7, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
So...
Last year Baker said that we needed to give McLaren time to get used to this team. Do you think the trial period is over? Can we return him?
...and now I'm here
I warned him earlier in the thread
"I'm so pumped about the Sounders FC
Not even the Mariners can fuck this day up
by kentroyals5 on Apr 7, 2008 3:30 PM EDT"
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
They still can't ruin it
I'm happy...:)
I fucking hate you Mariners
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Free Barry Bonds
Reply Button!
Irony!
I fucking hate you Mariners
How Did This Team Get Swept by the Worst Team in Baseball
Are there still people who believe that this team will win the West?
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 7, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
Lopez is going to hit a home run.
I'm calling it right now
Go J.Lo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waiting for tonight!!!!
...and now I'm here
So close
I still like J-Lo...fuck you Mac
I fucking hate you Mariners
The fucking Orioles just swept us
Fuck off McLaren, crawl into a hole and never return.
well crap
that was a pretty suctastic effort from the bullpen
by Pinetarandfeathered on Apr 7, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions
Seems hard to go back to work
After witnessing that. My soul has been crushed just that tiny bit more.
Free Barry Bonds
So... You know what's awesome?
Beer.
...and now I'm here
Yes it is. And after having to listen to that game while stuck at work,
you can bet your ass that I'll be stopping on the way home for a frosty barley pop or six.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Ugh. Good swing, Lopez.
I don't care what the numbers say, I demand that Squinty be declared the biggest suckfest in todays WPE chart.
Team OPS+: 98
Probably higher after today
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that's more luck + hit and runs than anything else
Our overall numbers are fine, they're just not getting hits when we need them.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
According to my hypothesis up above:
This qualifies our lineup as being un-clutch considering the pitchers we have faced.
Un-clutch or unlucky?
One of these is something that exists
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
John McLaren's ear is the best call
If by 'it' you mean 'a viciously serrated knife'
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't even get excited for that
knowing we will only score 3 runs
Sandy Koufax could go tomorrow
Mac is still our manager..not faith in that fucktard
I fucking hate you Mariners
McLaren's Formula for
Success
Get lead. Bring in Potatoes. Game over.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
We made Baltimore love Huff
I fucking hate you Mariners
Can I write the game summary?
I woke up, exciting I had finally gotten cable so I could watch the game. Then I watched the game. Then I broke my cable box after I bludgeoned myself to death with it.
...and now I'm here
It takes more than three pitchers to win.
But I hear ya, it's frustrating.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Our manager uses the same three pitches from the bullpen every day
they are good at their jobs.
Except when they are forced to pitch three times as much as a rational person would expect.
Frustrating indeed
our bullpen strategy seems to be hope that JJ can go... but then again, it would be nice for the 'pen to have more than a one or two run cushion once in a while too....
by Pinetarandfeathered on Apr 7, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sherrill, to the Mariners...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Apr 7, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The only thing that can possibly make me smile
today is for Baker to hold Squinty to a fire.
He might hold his balls to his chin.
Thats about it
I fucking hate you Mariners
C'mon, it's not like he's Pocket Lint.
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
O_O
You can't get much more crappy than today.
The M's still havent' scored more than 5 runs in a game... and Sherril got three saves...
So is failing to capitalise* and punctuate properly.
NB: This is how you spell it in proper English.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Sherrill probably thinks this is funny.
If we still had Sherrill, we probably would've won two of those games.
Im more suprised
Stottlemyre isnt making decent desicions.
Unless Mac just overrides what he tells him.
I don't know if he chooses who goes in.
...and now I'm here
I'm happy for GS52.
It sucks it happened against us, but I'm still thrilled that he is getting the chance he deserves.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Its gotta be mr. potatoe head cockpunching something
I fucking hate you Mariners
I'm hoping for us to win the World Series
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping to sleep with Elizabeth Hurley.
But I'm not holding my breath for it to happen.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Truthfully, though
Does anyone on this planet see John McLaren holding up the World Series trophy as the manager of the winning ballcub?
Is it actually possible to picture it?
Um...
Bob Brenly, manager of the World Champion Arizona Diamondbacks in 2001 says "Hi, remember me? And my insane managing in the 2001 World Series?"
Really, sometimes you CAN win with a manager as dumb as a box of rocks (as far as in-game strategy goes). You just have to have a ridiculous amount of talent to do it. The Mariners don't have a ridiculous amount of talent, though.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicken dinner.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
My guess of 78 wins seems more realistic by the day.
...and now I'm here
78 seems optimistic since it's the O's kicking our ass.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Krueger is a douchebag
He needs to go away too
I fucking hate you Mariners
He kept us in the game, but he wasn't "great".
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
3.7 FIP on the start.
Great is too strong, but that's damn good.
He wasn't awful though
and if we get 7 IP of decent pitching out of him, I'd be OK with that
Sure, he wasn't great.
But this can attributed to Silva having less movement on the ball due to the factor he took a shower only an hour prior to the game. Usually, he is fully greased by 7 o'clock in the evening.
As if not being "great" is a bad thing.
Kept the team in the ballgame and spared the pen. I'll take it. Our home announcing team is more enthused about it than we are but that's nothing worth getting upset over.
Mac is up to the challenge
I fucking hate you Mariners
7 games played, 7 leads attained
I like the odds of that being good in the future.
It is with this crockpot manager
When you have someone managing you out of winning situations consistently...well, that's most definitely sustainable.
So. 4 saves for Sherrill.
That's awesome.
...and now I'm here
Awesome for my fantasy team
Not awesome for everyone who let me take him with the last overall pick.
Last round? Try 10 days after the draft.
Favor the Bold
Hopefully he can rack up the saves now,
because I don't see the O's having the lead much once we leave town.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Gee. And three of them against his former team.
Who treated him as a LOOGY.
Who's doing the loogies now, eh?
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
I HOPE WE LOSE ALL OF OUR GAMES
Note - I think I'm bad luck. When I hope we win, we lose. Maybe this will appeal to the baseball Gods.
And I hope we don't lose.
I hope we win in spite of Johnny Mac. And I hope EOF wins 20 games this year
I hope EOF has a chance to redeem himself in spite of retardface
Because the casual fan will be calling for his head since they don't know which way their ass faces...and God knows they outnumber us 10 to 1.
If we lose the first against the rays
I'm going to root for them the rest of the season.
...and now I'm here
already been rooting for them for nearly 2 years
that's not going to change, but it'll make the m's losses to them easier to swallow
So... Has RRS been abducted by donuts?
Or is it fried tofu?
Favor the Bold
By the way
I don't want to scroll up, but for the guy who asked what Baker will do to explain this away: No Putz, no Sherrill, Young bullpen.
I don't think he's going to find it as hard as you think.
...and now I'm here
It has to be EOF's confidence
No way could it be 53 pitches in 3 days
I got a call right when the interview started
What was the first thing he said?
...and now I'm here
I'm confused...
How is 4 runs against a terrible team "great"? I'm not positive it's even "good."
AND, why is McLaren complaining about the run support, when they don't have a good offense and did nothing to improve it?
...and now I'm here
What are you talking about?
Mac moved Beltre and Wilkerson up in the lineup and Sexson down. How is this not an improvement?
Oh, wait, Wilkerson and Sexson are in the same lineup? I see what you are getting at you sly dawg.
Well, that's a REALLY easy answer
Because he's gotta blame someone other than his dumb ass self, so as to keep his job.
It's becoming harder and harder by the day.
I could stand Bavasi as GM if he just canned this assclown, and soon if things continue to trend downward - at least that'll prove he has some type of team management IQ.
I didn't see most of this game
Just now noticed that Mac shuffled the line up a bit.
Good man. Glad he's not waiting until late May to make adjustments.
McLaren does nothing right.
...and now I'm here
Well, by the time late May rolls around
3 of our 5 "go-to" relievers' arms will have been shot to hell.
So take it for what it is.
Ok, here's the absolute final one.
Sorry for wasting so much space.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Good luck.
The odds that the Mariners a) defy the informal blacklist the Commissioner has on Bonds, when they won't even go over slot for draft picks and b) make a mockery of their organizational dedication to not rewarding unrepentant steroid users is approximately zero.
My opinion is Barry's done. If fricking Billy Beane ain't signing him, nobody is. Basically, what MLB has decided is: great, Barry, you've got your record. Now go away. We want to put the steroid era in the rearview mirror, and that doesn't happen unless you are gone, for a start.
This all whitewashes the extent MLB has profited off of steroids... but I'm guessing this is how they want to handle it.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
Just got home and looked at the score, I can't imagine why McLaren put EOF in for the third game in a row. Yikes.
*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!
Jayson Stark on the Mariners:
"they've already lost two three more games they led after eight innings this year than they did all last year."
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
FUCK YOU SQUINTY DIE IN A FIRE
GAME THREAD EMOTION APPLIES LATER TOO
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
Seriously, what went through his mind?
Does EOF have compromising pics of McLaren and WIllie or something?
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
Why would EOF want to pitch three days in a row when he was ineffective yesterday?
It's more like Squinty has pics of EOF and its keeping him from telling the media how he has a torn labrum or such.
He tried coffee for the first time today
nobody told him there was a decaf option.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Side note of little correlation
The Mariners have not won since I bought my jersey.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
Bastard! Burn the jersey! Burn the tree!!!!
Actually, my friends think I have the same curse on the Seahawks.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
I can't wait until the 2008 version
of the Burn The Tree diary. At this rate it should appear sometime before Saturday.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
TAKE IT BACK YOU SON OF A BITCH IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
kidding. Mostly.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I'm afraid what's going to happen to the player whose name I put on it.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
dare I ask?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to be Beltre or Rowland-Smith
But now I guess I have to get McLaren.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
According to Baker
EOF is out as late inning situational..... RRS will probably take his place.... Rhodes is eligible to come of the minor league DL on thursday.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
Was just gonna say the same thing (thank you, auto-refresh)
Also, McLaren's reason for not using RRS today is dumb AND contradictory. Mac says RRS did not have the mindset of possibly coming in late in the game. RRS says he doesn't care WHEN he comes in, he just wants to be in.
Me thinks McLaren may want to study his players more.
Regardless, looks like RRS will be put in the "role".
I wonder whether it's occured to McLaren
To just use whichever of the two is less tired.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Also mentioned....
He and Mel wanted to get EOF back on track after his last outing. God I hate that line of thinking.
eh
I rather have them trust in a guy rather than overreacting after a bad outing or two
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I generally do to.
But in this case, they chose "getting him going" over resting him. Now, after working him three straight days they're punting him from the "situational-lefty" role because of another bad outing.
Great, now we can blow up RRS's arm as well!
Then we can call up a veteran from Tacoma. Seriously, I think that's what Mac is trying to do. Once he proves (enough) that EOF is struggling, he'll blame it on not "having enough experience".
Curse you, Detroit Lions!
See, I think this is the root of the problem.
Not McLaren himself, but the mentality of this organization, which thinks that the 9th inning is, "unlike any other inning," and that you need a "bulldog" mindset to pitch in certain situations.
It's an issue that starts at the top and works it's way down to the coaches and the players. This team will never hire progressive-thinking people until it stops thinking that decade-old strategies still apply in today's game.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 7, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
27 runs scored in 7 games vs. BAL and TEX.
NONE of them more than 5 runs in a game.
Yes, I know, Small Sample Size Theatre. It's April and the weather is depressing run production around the league, as it always does. However, those sabremetric projections that the M's offense is going to blow goats this year? Looking dead on.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
Oh noes we have been unclutch the world is over
Jesus fucking christ, I know the teams we've been facing have been bad, but you are surely aware that the Mariner offence has been above AL average through seven games, correct?
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
.231 /.315/.379 before today
12/8/8 in the league for BA/OBP/SLG. 9th in runs scored.
That's a funny definition of "above average" you have there.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I also can use park factors
Wheee aren't I clever
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The league average of runs scored/team BEFORE today...
4.13
The M's scored 4 runs today, and were below average BEFORE today's play. Minnesota and Chicago just had a game where 11 total runs were scored.
Uh, so now they are above average?
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the fuck would runs scored matter?
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, so what are you measuring when you say "above average"?
It's obviously not the actual runs the offense is scoring- so what is it?
Actually, never mind. Go fuck yourself. See, I can use profanity too!
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Go learn better methods for evaluating offensive production.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Park adjusted OPS relative to league average?
Something useful?
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My life was less full of morons when you stayed on USSM
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Classy.
You're an admin; why don't you fix this? I presume you have a banstick.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
nooooooooooooo
Corco officially supports eponymous cowards presence on LL, if only for the length of time he's been in the blogosphere
How's Detroit's offense?
I presume the sims were a wee bit off with them.
Why don't we give it a little bit of time, eh?
They are injured. Sims don't know that.
...and now I'm here
And aren't you the one who whined about picking up Bonds on USSM
And yet are ripping apart the offense 7 games into the season.
My God man, pick something and at least try to be consistent.
Nah, I thought the offense had the potential to be bad AND wasn't interested in Bonds.
They aren't mutually contradictory concepts.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't ban people for being idiots
We just laugh at them.
Sea OPS: .703
Park adjusted: .724
AL: .716
Sea OPS+: 101
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
With a batting average of .224, incidentally
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Right.
So you just said what Matthew did, the difference being you got to be a dickhead as a bonus. See how I didn't take offense to someone correcting a mistake I was making?
I'm happy to be told "You're wrong, here's why". I like learning things. Insulted, not so much.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
*shrug*
I apologise, then. I don't have much patience for this sort of thing with exams and the Mariners playing like they are, so I'm on a short fuse.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think you caught me venting at the entire 'negative' crowd
So sorry for singling you out there too.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like Graham needs a hug.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
If you want to get bludgeoned to death with a hockey stick
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't offering said hug.
Just saying it sounded like you needed one.
Of course, it could be you need some Vagisil.
(I hope you know I'm just messing with you)
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Now THAT'S talent.
You should be on one of those TV shows.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Speaking of talent shows
Can anyone here sing? My plan of rickrolling American Idol is sort of screwed by the fact that I have all the singing talent of a decaying goldfish.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That's good though
if you are really that horrible, you'll probably get through so you can be one of those people they make fun of. If you're just trying to rickroll 'em anyway...
This was probably much too literal of a response to your idea.
That must be why I see a pussy whenever I look at you.
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Fair enough.
I'd be happy with the M's being a non-craptastic offense and having the sims be waaaaaaay off track.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I -am- worried about the offence too
I just don't think it's reasonable to draw conclusions about how much of a problem they actually are after 7 games of OPS+'ing ~100.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Joh is probably mutilating those numbers right now
In that case, I've gotta hope small sample size is to blame and this isn't the beginning of a steep regression some of the sims were predicting.
Any regression will strongly favour the Mariners
That batting average is unsustainable
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't trust Johjima at all
But that's a gut feeling and probably inspired by my ridiculous love of Clement rather than any sensible analysis
by Graham MacAree on Apr 7, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the comment that led you to that conclusion?
I could have told you that years ago.
...and now I'm here
triple slash is poor because AVG gets factored into both OBP and SLG
if you insist on using that measurement, AVG / isoD / isoP is the way to go.
isoD and isoP were both above league average coming into today's game and both got better today.
OK, THAT helped.
So, basically, the argument is not enough singles because of bad luck?
by eponymous_coward on Apr 7, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They definitely nailed Wilkerson's .059 BA and Johjima's .095 BA
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 7, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet it's the bullpen that is costing this team games right now
Two of the games we lost we had an excellent chance of winning (both on Felix days). Otherwise, even with the tepid offense we'd be at least 4-3.
While it is the bullpen, that's true
It's really not just the bullpen. They may be sucking, but the hitting this team "has" has not exactly been overwhelming.
...and now I'm here
True, but neither has Detroit's
You have to assume that a lot of hitters that start out slow are going to bounce back given enough time.
The bullpen is a different story because the guy managing it has a brain the size of a micron and we don't know when J.J. Putz will be healthy enough to be dominant again.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 7, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what the Mariners need more of?
Situational hitting. See, they've been choosing to get their hits only when people are not on base. They need to choose to get those hits when the runners are on 3rd and 2nd. Why don't they understand this???
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Also, Eric O'Flaherty.
We need more of EOF
Cowbell.
They need more cowbell.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
Isn't that like asking for more herpes or something?
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
So what you're saying is that you need more genital herpes?
That's a wonderful goal in life.
A man has to have goals.
The nice thing is that we don't have to agree with them.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
That's how we roll.
Fun Fact: Angels third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
No problem
I mean this board has to deal with Squinty McLusterfuck related peer support, so why not life goals related support as well?
By the way, what the fuck is Stottlemeyer doing agreeing with Squinty to put EOF in?
Baker quotes Mac as saying that Stottlemeyer "felt strongly" about putting Potatoes in.
That's a real thing, though.
A real thing they have very little of.
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