2-4, More
Watching all the horror unfold, I could feel the angry rant brewing in my bones. A bad Miguel Batista gets 104 pitches, an average Jarrod Washburn gets 103, a surprising Carlos Silva gets a career-high 116, and a cruising Felix only gets 97? No sir, that didn't sit too well with me. Why take him out and replace him with a bullpen that, to date, has been anything but steady? Why not at least give him a chance to finish what he started before calling on relief? God knows that's what Felix would've wanted. As I witnessed Eric O'Flaherty and Mark Lowe throw the game away, I couldn't shake the familiar feeling that, once again, John McLaren had played a pivotal role in a Mariner loss.
...well, I'm glad I decided to step away and take a breather before writing this up, because according to Baker, Felix actually asked his way out after eight. Wasn't McLaren's decision at all. Seems that, having lost a day of preparation (thanks Erik >:( ), Felix found himself running out of steam sooner than he would've liked. He wasn't necessarily showing signs of fatigue, as his velocity was the same as it was in the early innings, but if a typically stubborn pitcher tells you that he's not 100%, it's out of your hands. So my apologies to John McLaren for jumping the gun. I guess he wasn't as responsible for this as I initially thought.
Funny how this doesn't make me feel any better.
What a catastrophe.
Biggest Contribution: King Felix, +57.3%
Biggest Suckfest: Mark Lowe, -89.7%
Most Important AB: Ibanez homer, +11.7%
Most Important Pitch: Lowe wild pitch/walk, -41.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -32.6%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -17.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
I love Sunday matinées. I look forward to being able to watch some early baseball, and then going on to have a rare normal, sports-free evening. It's a treat for those of us who often don't get to end up eating dinner until 11 o'clock during the week. Sunday matinées allow me to experience some hours in the afternoon that aren't overshadowed by a baseball game looming later that night.
So I wonder if this would've felt different had it happened on a weekday, where regardless of the outcome I'd just write it up and go straight to bed. I don't get to do that today. Today I have to deal with agony and try to come to terms with this for the better part of my waking hours. It's a lot worse. It's great when you win these games, because then you get to walk around with a smile on your face for the rest of the day, but when you lose them - and especially when in so doing you embarrass yourself - it has a tendency to own you. Thanks to the retarded heroics of an impossibly bad Luis Hernandez, all the sweet little things that happen to me for the rest of the day are going to taste that much more bitter.
On the plus side, I did have a good breakfast with King Felix. I had the french toast, and Felix prepared himself some scrambled eggs. While the Mariners weren't doing much against Jeremy Guthrie in the early going, Felix was tossing another dominant first few innings. Thanks in large part to an uncharacteristically solid changeup, the first ended with two grounders and two swinging strikeouts, and the second - while tainted by a line drive single - had another strikeout and two potential DP balls (one of which was turned). The game plan looked to be use the power fastball against righties while establish offspeed stuff against lefties, and early on Felix was executing to near perfection.
The third inning saw the Mariners break through for a run despite the best efforts of Raul Ibanez. Once again - and already I'm getting mighty sick of this - Raul tried to pull an outside fastball, and he rolled over on it, sending a slow roller to second for a double play. But with a runner on third, Richie Sexson picked up the spare by pulling the first pitch he saw into left field for a double. Richie seems to be alternating his good days and his bad ones, as today it looked like he'd gone clue shopping before the game. I encourage more of this.
Armed with a slim lead, Felix went back out there and kept dealing. A lot of fastballs to righties, and a lot of offspeed stuff to lefties. The third in particular was impressive, as the King needed only seven pitches to record a strikeout and two grounders. The only question was how much longer he'd be able to keep this up. In his first start, the dominance lasted three innings. Today I was hoping he'd stretch it out to five or six. Not that it'd be easy to tell when Felix started to lose it, since the Orioles' lineup is bad, but all I wanted was an improvement. If Felix can warm up in April and settle into a groove by May, then that'd be peachy.
(Note: Felix has not yet settled into a groove. He's also allowed one run in two starts. Freaky.)
Fourth inning:
The game got into a pretty quick pace, as after Sexson's double, no one was hitting. Guthrie made an unforgivable mistake in the sixth when he served up an 0-2 home run to Raul Ibanez, but as quickly as it happened, everyone seemed to forget about it. It was almost as if the teams were just playing out the string after agreeing that the early 1-0 lead was more than enough for Felix. There was no excitement - just outs. It wasn't long before the monotony drove Jim Palmer insane.
By the middle of the sixth, Palmer was wearing the expression of a man who'd lost touch with reality and just gone completely nuts. Not stabby-nuts like Hendu or perverted-nuts like Rizzs, but dissociated-nuts, like at any moment he was going to start massaging Jim Hunter's tie and accuse the door jamb of malice. I can't imagine that the Orioles are going to be that much fun to watch over the rest of the season, but unless Palmer's able to recover from this breakdown, the broadcast just got more interesting.
The bottom half of the sixth is when Felix started to show signs of wearing down. While he was still pitching in the mid-90s, he lost his command, throwing first-pitch balls to all five of the batters and walking two of them. The two-out walk to Markakis wasn't the worst possible outcome with a righty on deck, but after falling behind Millar, Felix left a fastball up at the belt that Millar fortunately lined right at Betancourt's glove to end the inning. The shutout was intact, but it didn't look like Felix had that much left in the tank.
The shutout then almost disappeared in the seventh, when Felix continued to fight himself. Aubrey Huff flew out to lead off, but then Felix hung an absolutely awful, awful curveball to Luke Scott that a better hitter would've sent over the fence, instead of off of it. That pitch was by far Felix's biggest mistake of the day, a sign that while he is improving, he's still susceptible to ugly fuck-ups. That pitch is exactly why I hope Felix can make his changeup about 5-10% better.
He regained my trust with a nasty 1-2 slider to Scott Moore to end the inning, though, and then in the eighth Felix threw first-pitch strikes to all three batters, needing only nine pitches in total to sit them down. Where an inning earlier I thought he was just about finished, now I thought it'd be worth sending him back out there for the ninth to try and wrap things up. Not only would Felix appreciate the gesture, but it could also spare us the unpleasantness of watching a non-JJ reliever try to save the game.
But, as it turns out, Felix was done. And this meant that we had to call on someone out of the bullpen to preserve a lead that was still only two runs due to the efforts of Guthrie, Dennis Sarfate, and Randor Bierd, who sounds less like a pitcher and more like the ship that Leif Ericson and his crew of fellow Norsemen sailed to Canada.
With three of Baltimore's 3-6 hitters being left-handed, McLaren went with southpaw Eric O'Flaherty, who'd thrown 29 pitches the night before. At the time I didn't like this for two reasons: (1) I thought Felix had more left in the tank, and (2) if McLaren had to go to the bullpen, Ryan Rowland-Smith is better. Obviously #1 turned out to be wrong, but I stand by #2, and I don't like that we've given four appearances to O'Flaherty and just one to a guy who last year struck out more than a batter an inning. I don't get it. It'd be one thing if O'Flaherty had loads of experience; that would at least serve as an explanation, albeit a bad one. But he doesn't. As a young arm with limited time on the roster, O'Flaherty and RRS are pretty much in the same boat. So why does McLaren seem to like the former so much more? This strikes me as another example of McLaren getting too tied up in his labels and roles. O'Flaherty's his designated high-leverage lefty, so he becomes the fallback plan when JJ's out, even though he isn't the best choice. It's annoying, but there you go.
McLaren also didn't bother making any defensive substitutions in the bottom of the ninth. I'd love to know why we have a five-man bench if we aren't ever going to use it.
Anyway, O'Flaherty quickly got himself in trouble by allowing a leadoff double to Markakis. He worked his way through the next two batters, allowing a run but getting both out, but then Luke Scott grounded a ball into the hole between first and second to keep the rally alive and force McLaren to go back to the bullpen for a righty. In came Mark Lowe, who didn't look the least bit sharp. That whole showdown against Ramon Hernandez with men on the corners, it just felt like the only thing going through Lowe's head was "don't throw a wild pitch," and then behind 3-1 he threw one anyway to let Jones score the tying run.
Miserable. The wild pitch felt so much like a loss that I barely even noticed the execrable Luis Hernandez lining a 2-2 fastball into the gap to win the game. Seriously, Luis Hernandez is bad. Really really bad. The man hit .242 in AA last season. He's probably the worst offensive position player in the Major Leagues right now. And he's the guy who drove in the final nail.
And so somehow, some way, we've found ourselves desperate to avoid a four-game sweep against the Baltimore Orioles. This is what I get to have running through my head for the rest of the day until I go to sleep. Dinner's gonna taste like poop.
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Why do I have this odd feeling that Silva is going to pitch pretty solid.
And we're still only going to score 2-3 runs and ultimately lose...
The M's haven't scored over 5 runs this season yet and that's what concerns me more than bullpen woes (although you could attribute EOF's problems today with McLaren putting him in after two previous days of work).
by schwagnah on Apr 6, 2008 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed something funny.
The Link to baker's blog... /2008/04/ms_hang_on_for_21_win.html
M's hang on for 2-1 win, haha even Geoff thought this one should have been in the bag.
Oh well. its not the end of the world i suppose
by schwagnah on Apr 6, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This made me laugh.
I work for a paper, and sometimes I cringe when some of our internal story-naming practices make us look stupid when it hits the Internet.
by Teej on Apr 6, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hernandez v. Bocock
"[Luis Hernandez is] probably the worst offensive position player in the Major Leagues right now."
Really? I thought that title belonged to Brian Bocock of the Giants?
And before you make the joke that the NL/Giants aren't the major leagues, neither are the Orioles. Check out his Minor League numbers:
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=31087
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
by Eyebrows on Apr 6, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still, there's a nice thread there of
ownerships who don't give a shit sending their fans a big fuck you by fielding starting shortstops who've never played above AA, and couldn't hit to save their lives in the low minors.
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
by Eyebrows on Apr 6, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was really hoping Mac would cry during that post-game interview.
He looked like he was about to lose it.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, my theory is that Mac has a catheter...
That randomly releases Pixie stick powder in his pee hole. That is the only way to explain those expressions he randomly has.
by RustyJohn on Apr 6, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When life gives you lemons
You paint that shit gold
by mariners124m on Apr 6, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit
amazing... about to start the season 0-6 trailing 9-1 in the 7th, and they just got booed by the home crowd after Cabrera grounds into a dp.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as we hate life right now
at least we're not Detroit fans.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this place would be on suicide watch
if we had the Tigers expectations and started 0-6.....
How long before Leyland is on the hotseat?
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed it, how did D-Train do in his start?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 6, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a no-hitter going through 4 or 5 innings.
....while walking 7 batters......
by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fernando Vina was on ESPN
talking about how he knew Dontrelle would get everything back together this season because he is an "ace". Seems Vina has forgotten the past two seasons, but he is an ESPN analyst so this is expected...
2006 24 FLA NL 12 12 34 34 4 1 0 0 223.3 234 106 96 21 83 160 19 6 975 6 1 3.87 4.31 112 1.419
2007 25 FLA NL 10 15 35 35 0 0 0 0 205.3 241 131 118 29 87 146 14 9 942 4 1 5.17 4.30 83 1.597
by RustyJohn on Apr 6, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't watch BBTN anymore
I miss Soup, Ravech, Reynolds, and Kruk. Now they have all these idiots on with poor Krukkie and one other decent commentator. Oh, and Ravech has gone insane.
by cwel87 on Apr 7, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Detroit Tigers are now 0-6.
They got swept by the Kansas City Royals.
They just got swept by the Chicago White Sox.
.....what's this? Their schedule? They're facing the Boston Red Sox next?
Oh dear....
by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Magglio Ordonez is now 2-18.
If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?
by Goose on Apr 6, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just needs to work through it
He's an awesome hitter. He won the batting title last year!
by seattlebruin on Apr 6, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, am I glad I didn't see this game.
At least Felix is starting awesome out of the gate again.
If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?
by Goose on Apr 6, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2008 Seattle Mariners
"At least we're not the Giants"
Season tickets now available
Go Nova
by dbroncos31 on Apr 6, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Any recap
that ends in the word poop is always satisfying
by mariners124m on Apr 6, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Palmer always looks like this
There's something really disturbing about him. Seriously.
by SC on Apr 6, 2008 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that -89.7% the single biggest suckfest in the history of M's WE charts?
by seattlebruin on Apr 6, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I distinctly remember Guardado being worse.
Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC his April 2005 Texas meltdown was about -81%
and that was probably his worst.
by Gomez on Apr 6, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New manager
What is the consensus on how long Mclaren will last and any ideas on his replacement?
by Carl Everett's Dino Farm on Apr 6, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of pawns to fall before they take the king.
Which is part of why McLaren keeps the assclown brigade around (Sexson, Vidro et all). As long as they're playing, they'll eat up enough of the blame to keep Squinty McShitshispants in vodka, American flags and scented two-ply.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 6, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching the Sonics game, along with like 5 other viewers
I saw the recap at halftime of this game. I'm glad I wasn't watching.
See, I play in a little free poker league called the Seattle Poker Open, and I earned a seat in today's season championship at Tulalip casino. Since I had rented a car ($60 for that) and made a day of it, I decided to blow the additional $50 to play Tulalip's noon bounty tournament like many of the other regulars did. In that tournament, I threaded the needle, got lucky a couple times, made the final table (out of 170 players), finished 6th and made $320 for my trouble, outlasting every other league player that played the tournament.
I busted out of the SPO championship and pissed off one of the regulars in the process (I bet him off a multi-way hand he would have won by going all-in), but it was still one hell of a day. Spending $120 and a full day, and netting a $210 surplus for your troubles? Yes please.
Beats the hell out of what would have been the alternative: watching this meltdown.
by Gomez on Apr 6, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clever attempt to disguise a poker story as a baseball comment
by Jeff on Apr 6, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the reason I wasn't watching today
I try not to talk about poker in general, because who cares, but I felt like contrasting my day of awesome with the Mariners' day of gagging away a win.
by Gomez on Apr 6, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, this makes me happy
"How happy was I? Extremely. Once he came out, I knew we had a chance. He kind of reminded me of the old Pedro (Martinez) days when Pedro was in Boston. He was throwing that good." –Aubrey Huff
"That guy was dirty. That’s the best I’ve ever seen him throw. I don’t know that anybody could throw much better than he threw today. [After Hernandez left] I was happy. Bottom line." –Jay Payton
by Fett42 on Apr 6, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait this one is better...having problems posting it as a fanshot though

by Fin on Apr 6, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen him walk?
No wonder Bedard has hip problems.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Apr 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next Bedard start
is free Bennigan's coupons and gumballs night to the first 20,000 fans.
by hcoguy on Apr 7, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I entirely blame this loss on Bedard...
his pussy injury made Felix tired earlier because he fucked up his routine (which means Silva's probably was too), which means after coming off a career high pitch count, Silva will be tired after 6. A sore hip, whoop dee shit.
Squinty McFuckface does get blame for choosing an overworked sack of Potatoes over a guy who's thrown 7 pitches and just as effective.
And BTW, honorable mention to Jose Lopez for not getting to a ball that should've ended the game. You may be able to hit now, but you're still a shitty defender.
by basebliman on Apr 6, 2008 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone think
Lopez should have gotten to that ball? I've seen the replay, it wasn't an easy play.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same reason we want Sexson out of the lineup
even though he's got an OPS over .800 right now..... preconceived notions of suckitude.
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But these preconcieved notions
that Lopez sucks in the field are slightly off-base aren't they?
I think Jeff mentioned somewhere to me that Lopez was a 0
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and where the hell did the rest of my message go?
Jeff mentioned that Lopez was a 0 < x < 10 defender.
Not fantastic, spooge your pants awesome, but not "shitty" by any stretch of the imagination.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lopez' defensive suckiness
comes from some of the lackadasical plays he made last year.... I remember one in Toronto especially that was all based on a lack of hustle.
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a rather subjective way
of determining that Lopez is a shitty defender.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not my way
just explaining the notion of Lopez' defense... he did suffer a few mental lapses last year so I'm sure some of defined him as someone that doesn't hustle enough.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the heart of it
it's too bad, too.
by Jeff on Apr 6, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn't mean to direct that at you.
Just towards the people who are using arbitrary examples to prove a point.
The people who are using a few "mental lapses" as proof that Lopez sucks/doesn't hustle are probably the same people who think Adam Jones is a terrible defender because of a couple of dropped balls last season.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is funny too
because if you think back, Yuni has had quite a few mental lapses defensively as well but doesn't get the bad rap defensively that Jose does... I think defensive rep in cases like this go and in hand with overall production.... Lopez has struggled the last couple years offensively, Yuni not so much..
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think your theory is correct.
Exhibit A: Derek Jeter winning Gold Gloves.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is saying Lopez is a bad defender, but he clearly did not hustle to that ball.
by Wilder. on Apr 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has short choppy steps
Makes him look life he's loafing sometimes...if he lays out to dive, maybe he stops the ball, but he doesn't throw out the runner. He had to slide like that to give him a chance to throw the ball.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Apr 7, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hip pain can be very uncomfortable.
And can definitely affect strength, mechanics.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Apr 7, 2008 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly Felix needs to be demoted
and replaced with R.A. Dickey.
by RustyJohn on Apr 6, 2008 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This series has blown
But at least we haven't been getting shit on or anything. Maybe the bullpen will turn it around or RRS will start being used.
Also, does the Go Rays! mean we're already supposed to give up? After 6 games?
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2008 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and they're not the Yankees or Red Sox.
Fuck the Yankees and Red Sox.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cooler than the Mariners?
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't over analyze this if I were you.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bought my hat last month.
Wore it to work on "Casual Saturday" yesterday.
by Teej on Apr 6, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a Sonnanstine jersey
They're harder to find than you'd think.
by Jeff on Apr 6, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Yeah, that might be kinda tough.
I found the Rays hat the Mission Valley mall with no problem. My best friend in Spokane tried to do the same and was laughed out of the store.
by Teej on Apr 6, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, SSS
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Smooth silky suds?
I know there are beer fans about these parts.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small sample size
Also: does not apply to McLaren.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. McLaren
might disagree about the "small sample size"......
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UNPLEASANT THOUGHTS UNPLEASANT THOUGHTS
You planned to post that right before I went to bed, didn't you? >:(
by Jeff on Apr 6, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course!
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 6, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he doesn't cry when he's done..that'd be unfortunate
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Apr 6, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a continuum for me damnit
Stupid managing mistakes this year that mirror those from last..so I'm not going with the normally applicable SSS-theory.
It'll all come full circle when we trade Clement for a shitty reliever.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Apr 6, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the thought of that occuring
makes me die a little on the inside.
by BrianL on Apr 6, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too...tired...to make better picture...
Here you go though.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 7, 2008 12:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Palmer Looks Like a Johnny-Cab driver from Total Recall
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 7, 2008 1:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well done.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
by Phildopip on Apr 7, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
by Gomez on Apr 7, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Morse is a defensive liability,
then what the hell do you call Wilkerson? Would it be possible to have a defensive let down by starting Morse? I find myself actually rooting for Wilkerson to strike out at this point in hopes that McLaren will have to make a change.
by monkeybones on Apr 7, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck is wrong with these new faggots?
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 7, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You tell 'em, homophobe
but really, you have a point.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree!
Old Marlboros were much better...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Apr 7, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the mayor of greeting annoying newbies
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 7, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still want an essay-based application for newbies
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just about to head out to the game
but I saw something this morning that I had to share. I was looking at tickets on the Orioles website, and this is the word verification security check that Ticketmaster gave me:

Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the person in charge of checking the list of potential words is either not from the US, is from the deep South (which is arguably the same condition as the former), and/or is above the age of 60.
Ticketmaster dodged a bullet on this one. I have a few friends who would've gone totally apeshit if this had popped up for them.
by ningwers on Apr 7, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's probably no "list" or verification of the words
because Ticketmaster's captcha is also an effort to digitize out-of-print books, so it probably just throws up random pairs of words from the books with little or no checking.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 7, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The word oriental isn't always used as a insensitive racial term either.
Oriental and occidental anyone?
by Jed MC on Apr 7, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of racism
Maybe Johnny Mac is showing Irish preference for O'Flaherty?!
by johnbai on Apr 7, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're definitely right about that
I think hearing my grandparents refer to Asians and Asian-Americans as Orientals and having quite a number of sensitive Asian friends has put the negative connotation in the forefront of my mind.
by ningwers on Apr 7, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently rugs are easily offended
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the prefered nomenclature is "asian american"
Free Barry Bonds
by JI on Apr 7, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a clever response.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 8, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
At some arbitrary point in the last 10 years, American society made the elective decision to consider it a deeply offensive term. I have no idea.
by Gomez on Apr 7, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is an issue that Asian people have.
As my wife says, Asians are people while Oriental is a description of things. Food, rugs, trinkets, etc.
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by Sec 108 on Apr 8, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It also does not cover all Asian people.
Oriental is the less racist "Chinaman" when referring to non-Chinese. Oriental only refers to like Korean, Chinese and I think the middle east, ironically. But it's incorrect use covered every Asian ethnicity.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 8, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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