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by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
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Hello good sir, have you considered us me for your ninth inning endeavors? Of course not, because you're a huge fucking asswagon.
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Especally since the unearned run came on a E by Felix...
By the way how does that not count as an ER? Shouldn't pitcher E's still count for ER?
I don't care about defense though.
I care about Felix's pitching.
It's stupid, but
I think the reasoning is that an unearned run is one that the offense doesn't earn, not one that a pitcher doesn't immediately allow. I have thought about that before though, and it does make more sense that a pitcher's error should be an earned run.
Gah!
15IP, 0 earned runs and nothing to show for it.
You know, games like this would be so much easier if we had a great left handed setu.... (aaaaaargh!)
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Baltimore's a pretty good team
so you have to expect them to come up big in the ninth inning.
Tampa Bay?? Now, they're better than the Orioles. May be tough for the Mariners in TB.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Apr 6, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
And Toronto, and Boston, and New York?
All better than this team that owned us today.
Oh, I was simply considering 0-7 for the road trip
A trend will continue until something causes it to change.
Something about these last few games could presage a final, 0-7 record for this trip.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Apr 6, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck.
kill me please.
I want to become a Nationals fan. At least then I can expect a loss rather than being amazed when my team finds new and creative ways to FUCK IT ALL UP BEYOND BELIEF.
GOD DAMN YOU JOHNNY MAC
Not to disagree with you
But the Mariners players are the ones that failed on the field, not the manager. The manager just helped them fail a little bit. Its not ALL Maclaren's fault here.
Fair point
McLaren didn't make Lowe throw the wild pitch. But I'm not as good at rage as some of the rest of you and can only focus it on one person at a time.
pinch-runner Jones scores
against his old team, to tie it up.
Let's see...Bedard can't pitch against his ex-team, but Jones scores the tying run against his ex-team.
Pretty good symmetry!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Apr 6, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget
the insurance RBI on the SF last night
True symmetry
would be Jones getting the winning run and giving Sherrill a W. Too bad George was so wiped out from his last two saves against us.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
No
It's all McLaren's fault. 100% of it.
No sane individual takes Felix out in a relatively dominant shutout performance with 97 pitches thrown in a close game to go to a questionable 'pen. He deserves to be fired for this and this alone.
If I'm that bad at my job, I'm not lasting a week. He has NO excuses.
It's not just that he took Felix out
It's that we know he would have let Washburn go back out there. It is purely infuriating and I totally agree that this alone should be sufficient justification for handing him his pink slip.
by seattlesundevil on Apr 6, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If it's ANY consolation
Perlozzo did the same thing with the O's on Mother's Day last year. He was gone within 2 months.
"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge
Hilarious
The amazing, new and improved, going-for-it-all-this-year, 2008 Mariners just got swept by the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. NOT AN EXXAGERATION.
I present to you the ribbon of suck.
and, voila! A four-game sweep!
vkut79 was early...but, accurate!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Apr 7, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm.
So I left at the middle of the 8th to take my wife to work - just got back in.
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
The Mariners are having troubles scoring?
by eponymous_coward on Apr 6, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
Let's restate this.
We've played Baltimore and Texas for a week... and scored 23 runs, less than 4 a game.
The bullpen being shaky isn't worrying me so much at this point,
by eponymous_coward on Apr 6, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
on the bright side
I thought that was the best Felix start since his first Boston start last year. He was effectively mixing his pitches and doing stuff like getting first pitch curveball strikes. It was amazing.
Yeah he's the reason why I enjoyed this game
Even though the rest of the team sucked.
He's a grizzled vet though who's getting paid grizzled veteran dollars
Fuck McLaren in the asshole with a rusty dildo.
I went to the game yesterday at Camden
and thought about going tomorrow since I could do it by only skipping one class. But now that it's not Felix day and the way things are heading we could get swept by Luis Hernandez and his merry band of incompetents...I don't think I could handle it.
Aww.
Squinty looked like he was going to cry in the post-game interview.
Fuck him.
Waaaa
Yeah i really thought for a second he was going to burst into tears... but he deserves to cry!
I'm trying to find that screenshot
Of John McLaren on the verge of crying when Hargrove announced his resignation, but I can't find it. It would be very fitting right now.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 6, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This image is far better than Crying Richie.
New sidebar!
A fitting memorial
Oh, you're dead? Well in your memory here's an ugly ass tree and some crab grass asshole.
Don't tell us what happened in the game, you sagging piece of fail
Tell us why you made the moronic decision to not put Felix out there. The matchups? Fuck those. How about the fact that Felix has been cruising the entire game?
Jesus.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
Anyway
I think the most egregious error was not going to RRS in the 9th if he was going to pull Felix in favour of a leftie. Seriously? EOF after two days of pitching?
But EOF has more
experience than RRS. Therefore, he's obviously the logical choice![/Johnny Mac]
Curse you, Detroit Lions!
Potatoes is the Established Lefty Setuy Guy
going to anyone else in that situation is simply unpossible
Lots of anger
But did anyone laugh like I did? It's pretty comical really. I'm not even mad.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Normally I would
any day but a Felix day when he puts together the game that he did. I feel nothing but anger and hate inside right now.
I laughed. Then swore. Then vented. Then hit things with hockey sticks.
Then swore more. Then finished my beer.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really, no.
Rage consumed me. Looking back at some of the comments though, the GTE is pretty hilarious.
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by JLC on Apr 6, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yep I laughed
I go into each game expecting these guys to blow it and lose...... and they're following thru more often then not...
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
If it were a month or two later, I would have been rolling.
But I didn't see an ounce of humor today. I envision Felix carrying this team and at least keeping it competitive, so it's infuriating to see him dominate and do everything we could possibly ask of him so early in the season, only to have his manager fuck it all up.
Someone on the phone lines in the postgame show
changing the subject to Mike Morse and why he isn't starting over Wilkerson after the spring that he had... As if this day could get any worse.
Unless WLAD is going to manage the team, I don't see it helping.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 6, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Brad Wilkerson is pretty bad.
The problem is, so is Mike Morse.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 6, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It's that I wouldn't love to see Wlad come up
But he's safer in Tacoma, safe from Johnny Mac's clusterfuck baserunning strategrey. Seriously, a hit and run with Wilkerson and Vidro? This is Mariners Baseball, not Celebrity Fit Club.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 6, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's put it this way.
The less ABs given to over-the-hill veterans or Morse, the less likely Johnny Mac is to "manufacture" runs. 3 run homers are great for that.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no
Aggressive baserunning puts pressure on the pitchers!
We could have nine Zombie Babe Ruths in the lineup and Johnny Mac would be dicking around with hit and runs. This is because he has a good sense of the "fundamentals." The fundamentals specifically state that your middle-order men should get thrown out by eight feet at least twice a game.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 6, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sexson
Hey, there is some validity in mixing Morse in with Raul, Sexson and Vidro.
Theres validity
in mixing someone in there... But its not Morse
Yeah, walking the winning run in would have been funnier
by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Right now?
you expect them to get better?
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
Or stay the same
I can't realistically see them getting any worse...
Only thing that may calm my rage
is the Angels losing to the Texas Rangers and Vicente Fucking Padilla.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
that would be appropriate
then the M's would be in sole possession of the cellar.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
Now someone is bringing up
why we didn't re-sign Guillen... These people are all over the map with issues completely unrelated to today's bullshit events.
And by that you mean a second ace?
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
There was some sarcasm in there
I guess you didn't read RevHalo's comical glorification of Garland then.
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I try to only visit HH when I need a good laugh
Plus reading all of his material might make my brain stop working
Well, that was depressing.
I'm still pretty calm because it's early in the season but holy smokes this team is absolutely terrible under adversity.
Angels lose two of their big time starters and they don't seem to be missing a beat.
We lose our top closer and the whole thing seems to fall out of wack. It's like we should've been 6-0 or 5-1 but due to our bullpen and Mac's inexperience luck ain't saving us this time.
I'm probably alone on this but I'm not worried at all. This team is better than this. We're losing the type of games we ended up stealing last year while laughing maniacally. Pythag is certainly being rude to us right now.
Last year's Mariners went 5-9 after a 6 game losing streak. Bounced back to .500 quite nicely.
This team shouldn't have much trouble recovering unless we're due for an unlucky year to make up for last year. I seriously can't get worked up about all this right now, especially when the SUPER MEGA POWERED DETROIT TIGERS are off to the same start as the 2004 Mariners (And per ESPN, only two teams in history who started 0-5 made the playoffs. Have fun kids).
So yea, the season is too damn early for me to get over worked. I'm ready to move on, but oh crap-on-a-stick did the end of this game cost me the rest of my sleep....*sigh*
Whatever, can't get much worse. Get well soon Putz.
The photo was deleted because it shows Felix murdering Mclaren
Thats a violation of the TOS
McLaren's
strategy seems to be as follows. Blow the game not by using one pitcher but by continually bringing in new pitchers after the previous one gives up a single. This way no one hurler gets the blame. He effectively did this in New York last year in that third game in the September series as I remember. He has no trust in one so he micromanages himself into losses where each pitcher he throws out there takes a loss.
What the fuck, I don't see why Felix couldnt have stayed out there when he's cruising through with 10-15 pitch innings. at least leave him in to see if he can do it.
John McLaren, you sir are a gigantic CUNT MUSCLE
Drayer gives a bullshit excuse
and is "satisfied with the explanation she got"
Fuck her
I always wondered if she was hot
because that was the only way I could figure they'd let someone who knows absolutely nothing about baseball into the locker room. I just took a peak at her picture on-line...not hot. After today's show she was talking about eating creamed beef sandwiches or some shit like that so now I know that, not only isn't she hot, but she eats disgusting shit.
I swear, I typed this signature before the game today:
Some people cut themselves. I root for the Mariners.
In happier news, KC is winning.
Joakim Soria :: 2008
JJ Putz :: 2007
Why am I using a vacuum?
The Mariners are much better at sucking.
*McLaren hunches over, rubs his hands together, and cackles with glee* "Hahaha, I've sucked again!"
"Felix did a good job"
"we got the matchups we wanted, it just didnt work"...
FUUUUUUUUCKKKK YOOOOOUUUUUUUU
"he said he wasn't 100%, so we made the change"
Of course he's not 100%, hes pitched 8 innings you fucktard, that doesn't mean you make the fucking call to the bullpen. Just let him go out there and if he gets in any trouble, then make the fucking switch. God dammit, a 6 year old could've figured this out.
It's against international law to let 6 years old go through wars, though
so they can't play or manage baseball.
by Jordan of Boise on Apr 6, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Did any reporter ask Mac if he knows RRS exists?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Its going to be hard to hold even a 4 run lead
with Padilla pitching against the Angels offense
I go to the gym thinking it would be a sure 2-0 victory
at the bottom of the 8th. And I arrive seeing Payton rounding third and winning the game. What the fuck. Fuck you squinty! You imcompetant assclown.
Okay, so according to Baker Felix wasn't up for pitching the ninth
so at least that mistake is explained away.
From the postgame interview
he basically said he wasnt 100% and they convinced him that he should let them go for the lefty-lefty matchups...
I really wasn't convinced by either his or Macs interviews
I just read what Baker put up there...
I should've done that before I even put up a response... but I think the important distinction between what Felix said and what Baker wrote is this part: He told them he wasn't feeling 100 percent and thought Eric O'Flaherty could better handle things with three lefties due up among the first four batters.
From his interview, Felix said he wasn't feeling 100%, but he said that Stottlemyre told him that EOF would be better against the lefties... This may be of no real matter, and I'm probably just not willing to give in that McLaren and Co aren't complete idiots, but I see a big problem here.
Just to be a contrarian dick . . . .
I have no problem pulling Felix in the 9th. He had arm trouble last year and I see no need in testing him during the 6th game of the year at Baltimore.
Maybe RRS would've been a better bullpen call, but Spuds and Lowe need to get three outs in this situation. I'm more disappointed in them than Squinty.
Are you kidding?
EOF threw 34 pitches over the two games prior to today. No sane manager uses him there.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
DMZ doesn't say he threw on Friday anyway
Coach is just wrong.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If Felix isn't up to it, fine.
However, that doesn't get Mac off the hook. EOF shouldn't have been pitching today, period. Any other manager would have thrown RRS onto the mound if they were hellbent on getting the platoon split.
I would also have to be a contrarian dick
How hard is it to get three fucking outs with a 2 run lead? To quote my girlfriend, who seems to have better baseball sense than most general managers despite having zero knowledge ofthe game, "Why are they clapping for that Mariano guy(Rivera)?" Me, "Because he is the best closer in the history of baseball." Her, "Closer? Aren't those the guys who pitch for one inning? How fucking hard is that? I could be really good at what I did if I only worked 1/9th of the day."
I just watched the 9th inning.
EOF and Lowe can be blamed, but for all the good Lopez has done this season, his glove botched this game. Although it was scored as a hit, Jay Payton's weak groundball went under non-hustling Lopez's glove.
Pathetic 9th inning.
I have seen the replay... and it was a tough play, makeable, but tough
cant attribute it to not hustling
Tough play?
Routine groundball for every 2B except for roly-poly Lopez, even when shaded for a right-handed hitter. And why didn't Lopez slide? Because he non-chalantly went after the ball thinking he was going to glove it easily. The ball was hit a little bit harder than originally thought and it went right under his glove. Therefore, he wasn't hustling like he should have been.
I dunno man, I'm watching and re-watching it
I'm just not seeing what you're seeing, he did make a slide for it... and that's a long run for a hard hit ball, just like you said... I am not seeing any non-chalance.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Game should've already been over anyways, and it was a group effort, so I guess some of the blame goes to him.
Glad I missed it
We went for a walk today up the Nisqually Wildlife Refuge.
Came back to the car, and the game was over. Chalk another one up for this Charley Foxtrot:
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
Yeah, I did...
Must've hit the wrong "Post" button or something (after I added the 'width="400"' attribute).
I managed that one about as well as Squinty McCharleyFoxtrot managed the 9th yesterday...
Sorry.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
Felix takes himself out
Well, not much you can do about this game then. It's not like using RRS guarantees us a victory.
And of course, Felix takes himself out because he wasn't up for it...he wasn't up for it because he only had one bullpen session....he had only one bullpen session because he pitched earlier than expected....he pitched earlier than expected because Bedard got scratched....
I'm actually okay with the fact that this team is starting off slow. It needs to overcome these issues if it expects to make the playoffs.
RRS puts us in a better position, though
EOF had just pitched. RRS was fresh and just as capable.
Go away Sexson
Not happening.
Barry's been Blackballed by MLB (unofficially). This is what happens when you're King Steroid.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 6, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else find it...
really strange that Felix would want to come out? That kind of baffles me, Felix has always want to be out there on the mound and it doesn't sound like him at all to do that.
He just wasn't up for it.
He didn't want to cost his team the game and there were ideally better options than leaving Felix out there to gut out the 9th.
It's just one of those things that sucked. Felix moving up a day early did have some impact since he only had one bullpen session instead of two. Still, 9 times out of 10 we win that game based on Felix's performance.
Get used to it...
with your shiny new toy. Bedard does it once a month, easily....
"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge
I'm not one to correct spelling and be a dick like that,
but since it's in your sig, I'll point out that you have League spelled wrong.
Damn if I didn't...
Thanks for the heads up. I can't type for shit.
"I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves." - Major Leauge
So in other news, you all were right
Garland sucks.
*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!
Yea, Sorry dude.
Garland can be pretty decent but a Staff Ace he ain't. I thought it was a strange pickup by the Angels cause I figure they have a junkload of arms that are better than he is.
So now that the GTE has subsided
I can partially forgive McLaren if Felix did say he wasn't feeling 100%. Still should have been RRS instead of EOF unless RRS wasn't feeling well either. But EOF and Lowe should be our two best, healthy bullpen arms right now, and the Orioles managed to score 3 runs off them. That just.......well that just sucks.
We're still only 6 games into the season. Do you think the Angels are enjoying being outscored 21 to 10 in their series vs. the Rangers? Losing sucks, but it happens.
And finally, holy shit do we need J.J. Putz back in our lives.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
I'll forgive him for pulling Felix
But all his usual asshattery is unforgivable.
by JI on Apr 6, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Good news: Angels lost.
Mildly Good news: Athletics lose.
Bad news: Rangers win puts us alone in the cellar.
Boy, it's been a while since we've seen this place.
No where to go but up.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 6, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
RRS
In his only outing so far, he didn't do great either. 2H 1R no K in 0.1 IP. That may have influenced the choice of relievers.
I'm back from Canada!!
Almost too bad we didn't crash on the way back, huh?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
If Johnny Mac was the navigator you would have
I fucking hate you Mariners
But there's only one road and it's a straight shot with almost no chance of problems.
Wait...
Yeah, I see what you mean.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
You'd somehow end with the same fate as if Cory Lidle were your pilot
I fucking hate you Mariners
I'm pretty sure the building did
I fucking hate you Mariners
Missed the M's Lose
... Was covering the rubber match b/w UW and Arizona... Glad I missed the M's, I was getting updates and after hearing Felix got taken out after 8 innings of shutout ball I had a bad feeling.
But at least the Dawgs won... 5-1.. was a great game.
Well I'm glad Felix takes precautions.
It doesn't take away the fact that McLaren is not a Major League Manager
I love him for that
Thats not what happened today..he said he wasn't 100%, which no pitcher is after 8 innings. I don't blame Mac for replacing him, but for how he went about it.
No defensive replacements (not that it mattered..but what if it did). RRS is MIA.
I fucking hate you Mariners
We're totally forgetting one thing about the pulling Felix...
The psychological impact.
"How happy was I? Extremely," said Aubrey Huff, who had an RBI during a three-run rally that provided Baltimore with a 3-2 victory Sunday. "Once he came out, I knew we had a chance."
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