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Seattle Mariners at Cleveland Indians, Apr 29, 2008 4:05 PM PDT


Lineup

Seattle Mariners @ Cleveland Indians

04/29/08 4:05 PM PDT

Seattle MarinersCleveland Indians
Ichiro Suzuki - CF Grady Sizemore - CF
Jose Lopez - 2B David Dellucci - LF
Raul Ibanez - "LF" Travis Hafner - DH
Adrian Beltre - 3B Victor Martinez - C
Jose Vidro - "DH" Jhonny Peralta - SS
Richie Sexson - 1B Asdrubal Cabrera - 2B
Brad Wilkerson - RF Casey Blake - 1B
Kenji Johjima - C Franklin Gutierrez - RF
Yuniesky Betancourt - SS Andy Marte - 3B


 

W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Carlos Silva 3-0 5 5 0 0 0 0 35.0 33 11 11 3 8 15 2.83 1.17

W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Fausto Carmona 3-1 5 5 0 0 0 0 28.0 26 10 9 1 22 11 2.89 1.71


One of these pitchers throws strikes and doesn't throw a good sinker. One of these pitchers throws a good sinker but doesn't throw strikes. I don't have the slightest idea what's wrong with Fausto Carmona, but I've got a sneaking suspicion that today's the day he gets himself sorted out. God damn this lineup of ours. At least Asdrubal Cabrera's playing like a pile of crap.

On a side note, Travis Hafner: done? You can blame injuries for his lack of power if you want, I guess, but injuries tend to be a big part of being done. While he might still be able to get on base at a decent clip, that peak is long gone. Which makes him ideal Mariner fodder come 2010 or so.

...LET'S GO MARINERS!!

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Woo game thread!

Days without these seem to just drag on forever and ever

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How many innings

before I give up watching today’s game to play GTA4?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

8

Mariners keep it close way too long then crush your heart at the very end.

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on Apr 29, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q

the Mariners and Indians will play Calvinball today, resulting in Q innings of untold hilarity when Mark Lowe becomes the third baseman but is forced to stand behind the plate umpire

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the over-under

on how many swings today’s home umpire will allow the away team to take before declaring a strikeout?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they punt - they should just take a three point shot instead

if they make it, we go from the Q inning all the way to 3:14.15 on the clock

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's a good point

but what about icing?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

where were you yesterday, by the way?

you were nowhere near the F’n’As interestingness. Conspiracists were starting to wonder about whether you were he.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My work had the audacity to make me work

I know, I know. I tried to tell them.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerks.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You couldn't change that rule?

Obviously your work doesn’t use the DH.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but mine was more succinct

so I’m up 1-0 in the moral victory column. FACIAL, LAFLEUR.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine was snarkier and more sarcastic

Three moral victory points for me! WHAT NOW?

Screw it, since I’m the home team, I’m also banning you from using the letter ‘m’ in your responses from here on out

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't you reading this thread?

McLaren rubbed the opposite pole so I’m the home team anytime the score ISN’T Q to 43 – now you have sing the I’m So Sorry song for trying to wrongly send me to the I’m So Sorry box

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong. Grudzielanek and Pierzynski aren't playing.

That’s because we have pitchers riding unicorns at 1B and 3B. Try and keep up.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 29, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I' trying but it's hard to keep up soeties

why are they riding unicorns? Per the official rulebook of baseball, players may only ride ythical creatures if said creatures have wings or breathe fire. It’s rule 145.P.5 paragraph Beta – go look it up.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hoe tea changed that rule

Wait, wasn’t there a gae last year where Cleveland was the hoe tea in Seattle? That ust ean we are the hoe tea tonight.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 29, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're only the hoe tea when the score is Q to 43

Tie for you to go to the I’ So Sorry box.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Recoended.

This coent is ade of win

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not a proble

because I really like a challenge. I thought I was the home tea, but apparently I was wrong.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I said "wrong"

I of course meant “istaken”. y apologies.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And when I said "meant"

I eant “eant”. Penalty box for e.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

home

You fail iserably.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I' crap at the internets

I can’t spell very well, either. I blae the alphabet.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prove it's the alphabets fault

Show me where it says in the rulebook that it’s the hoe alphabets’ fault

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*e

-T points for e

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ew.

The thought of McLaren rubbing ANY pole is an unpleasant one.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, there's no more icing.

If you recall, MLB replaced chalk baselines with icing, to prevent Josh Hamilton from snorting them every time he ran to first. However, now Jose Vidro and Prince Fielder are eating the baselines.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that's why Vidro stopped getting all those infield hits

I KNEW edible baselines were a bad idea with him around.

At least they’re not made of hot dogs

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is GTA4?

Is it living up to the reviews? I’m going to try and pick it up when I get off work.

by coasty141 on Apr 29, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea.

I picked it up on my way to work today and haven’t had a chance to play it.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just got done with about 10 missions

It sucks ass man.

Just kidding, 10 missions through and so far it’s more awesome than GTA 3 or San Andreas

by marinator on Apr 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atleast he's a lefty

So Bavasi can justify the signing when 2010 comes around. Its too bad because he is on my fantasy team.

by Fin on Apr 29, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PrOPS v. Hafner

Hafner’s 2008 PrOPS line looks a lot like his 2007 line:

.266/.385/.451 - Hafner ‘07 (118 OPS+)
.286/.375/.457 - Hafner ‘08 PrOPS

So he might not be done done, but I think you’re right that his peak seems gone.

by ubelmann on Apr 29, 2008 2:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just going to say...

those PrOPs lines are lack luster considering you getting zilch from a defensive value standpoint. But Hafners 07 looks great next to Vidros

by coasty141 on Apr 29, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something to think about

probably a half baked idea, just wanted to see what everyone thought:

Jason Botts, DFA’d by the Rangers. Didn’t hit in the majors, but slugged in the minors:
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=1550

Picking up Botts seems like a Bavasi idea (that is, rather than using Clement).

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know that.

Just was more wondering aloud if Bavasi might make that move. He does do stupid things.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was replying to your above.

Jeff: He’s not good.
e_c: Then he’d fit right in.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also...

auto-updating comments spur me to post faster than I can think, and maybe misinterpret what people have said.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know.

They have to use guys like WFB and Norton first and find out they suck before they go to any kids.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 29, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back to Opening day starting 9

Vidro-Wilkerson-Joh all in the lineup. >:-{

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 29, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't go bye-bye

it’s just hidden. So the only people who can post in that subthread are (A) admins and (B) people who haven’t left the page.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I refreshed to make sure they were hidden

and this is the thanks I get???

Thanks for nothing LL!

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should've tried in a new window

You have no one to blame but yourself.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you

if you hadn’t banned the spammer I could see the subthread just fine!

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why must you alter the past ?

It makes the future more confusing.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So either you've failed miserably because they still suck

or you’re a smashing success because otherwise our rotation would include Zito, Ho, AND Mateo

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not done yet

give me time. This is an unprecedented experiment.

And also, never underestimate how much worse you could have it.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

45 Ryan Franklin
18 Eddie Guardado
17 Shigetoshi Hasegawa
56 Bobby Madritsch
40 Julio Mateo
55 Gil Meche
50 Jamie Moyer
43 Jeff Nelson
38 Joel Pineiro
20 J.J. Putz
30 Aaron Sele
52 George Sherrill
39 Rafael Soriano
43 Matt Thornton
47 Ron Villone

8 Miguel Olivo
6 Dan Wilson

5 Adrian Beltre
16 Willie Bloomquist
29 Bret Boone
53 Greg Dobbs
33 Bucky Jacobsen
3 Pokey Reese
1 Ramon Santiago
44 Richie Sexson
23 Player A

28 Raul Ibanez
58 Jeremy Reed
32 Chris Snelling
51 Ichiro Suzuki
2 Randy Winn

by InSpokane on Apr 29, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MUST KILL BAVASI

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MUST KILL BONIFAY

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully, I have the ability to sense what the present SHOULD look like without Jeff's meddling

and I can tell you with 1.7% certainty that if Jeff had not squished that fish, we would be able to fly and we would worship Felix as our King.

Oh wait, the second part of that happened anyway.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zito isn't hispanic.

No way he’d make that trade.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could full of protein

and steroids, not blubber and raccoon lips..

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did

you just don’t realize it because the memory of what hot dogs used to be has been erased from your brain.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if you altered the past

shouldn’t that knowledge already be with me? Shouldn’t I be unaware that hotdogs were once unhealthy? Or are you in the new timeline and I’m trapped in the old (shitty) one?

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LL is a transdimensional fissure in the space time continuum where you can comment on however the Mariners may be doing in your particular reality.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're still shitty in my neck of the universe.

And the earth hasn’t been (literally) turned upside down yet, so we play in the WS in the October snow.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need to get better at manipulating the 8th dimension

once you get that done, it’s quite easily to move universes at will.

Shut up Natalie Gublis, I’m talking here. I don’t have time for another massage of solid gold bullion.

by Matthew on Apr 29, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you just said more healthful

For all you know, eating a hotdog would give you cancer (easy jokes), and now they’re only mildly bad for you.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you are.

Hot dogs used to be even worse until Jeff fixed them.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

baby skulls

They’re quite pliable.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which of course leads to things like

seattlebruin: THE THREAD VANISHED
ningwers: This just keeps getting weirder and weirder
seattlebruin: But we can still post here
seattlebruin: and it shows the updated comment count on the front page’
seattlebruin: WTF
ningwers: HAHA
ningwers: So this is what it feels like to be the Omega Man (or Men as it were)
seattlebruin: Hahaha, yeah for sure
seattlebruin: I’m so confused

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but in that universe

The Mariners won the bidding on Barry Zito.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that universe, though

Zito only cost 1.5 million for two years.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the giant ants are telepathic

they know when you steal from them

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That could be problematic

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why always say just sit back and collaborate

They’ll whip you 10% less severely for 20 minutes on every other Tuesday

by ningwers on Apr 29, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care if you beat me to it

I’m posting this anyway because dammit, I worked long and hard on this.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did somebody say Calvinball?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no no no

That’s the Rules of Baseball according to F’nA’s.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooooohhhh

Bill Watterson is gonna be on your ass like white on rice.

by Paytheline on Apr 29, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, judging by our average first gamethread

you would have no idea that the Mariners were in fact a professional baseball team. You’d think they were professional soldiers or that we were a club of people gay only for someone named “Felix”

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is in my universe

where the all time leader is Yuniesky Betancourt with like 32

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, just America

and he immediately converted it to a capitalist democracy

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine for me

I wonder if the hidden subthread did something.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm never closing my browser again

ningwers, Corco get on this shit.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't listen to him, Last Fan Of Jose Lopez

otherwise come tomorrow Jose Lopez won’t have anymore fans.

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see the violence inheriting the system

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, hmmm

most of them update fine, but a few I just noticed are there that I think it passed when they first got posted

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was the problem for me as well

but it appears to be working now

by don gato on Apr 29, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only some of the new comments are appearing

and after a while they stop appearing altogether.

...and I believe I spelled it “wonnky”

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or is it wrongky?

Eh? Eh?

by Jeff on Apr 29, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

If you’re a communist

by ningwers on Apr 29, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps in your universe, but not mine.

I’m watching the Mariners win their 10th straight game and be a game ahead of their 2001 pace from my mansion in Medina. Afterwards, it’s time for a date with Monica Hansen.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Z button is only working some of the time.

And alot of the new comments are not appearing unless the page is refreshed.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

voting based on first half stats= stupid

voting based on popularity = stupid

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to preemptively call complaining about ASG voting

a dead meme. It sucks, we all know it sucks, and yet nothing can/will be done about it.

Not trying to pick on you, JI, this just seemed to be a good place to throw this comment out there.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

but I didn’t want it to sound like I was reacting solely to your comment.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The entire thing is stupid

but opening up votes this early is equally stupid.

Carlos Quentin currently leads the AL in OPS and EqA.

by Matthew on Apr 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as meaningless as that is

that actually made my wife’s day, because she’s got a crush on Carlos Quentin.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Q!

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.

I think the ASG should be a reward for those who’ve had the best year so far, regardless of their past reputation. This is why people like Brian Roberts keep getting voted in.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm waiting for the day that All-Star voting begins on Opening Day.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Idea

Spring training statistics are usually indicative of future performance.

by HARRYP09 on Apr 29, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really see why.

We’re choosing stars, not the guys having the best first three months.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuniesky Betancourt has the third highest OPS among starters

It’s pretty sad that we’re not exaggerating by saying that three AAA hitters inserted directly into our starting lineup would help this offense.

by Matthew on Apr 29, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he just say groin stain?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

the Cleveland pre game called this a “marquee pitching matchup”.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 29, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Dave

Vidro is either not playing because he’s on the shit list, but when he plays he hits fifth???

Huh?

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What up with the non-HD broadcast?

It’s widescreen, but looks like butt. Not HD.

by weebs on Apr 29, 2008 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't their selling point this year

“All games. All HD.” ?

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

technical difficulties I'm sure

I usually comment here rather than watching in the other room on the big screen though.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a cleveland thing

the theatres there just got Return of the Jedi for the first time

by Tony S on Apr 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do about half and half

Got the laptop for out here though so I can watch the Rays game at the same time.

by weebs on Apr 29, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The M's Cards games usually overlap

so I have P and P going on the PC

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Mark Hargrove"

I love you Dave.

by JI on Apr