The greatest day in the history of the world

I havn't ever really gotten into the GTA games.

I may start but I just love playing COD4 still and I am looking forward to the Civilization game thats coming soon.

How does the online work? Is it like a deathmatch or something?

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We already have Mario Kart Wii

and like any Mario Kart game, it is fun. Unfortunately, though, it just doesn’t blow me away with racing goodness, and by God that wheel attachment is hard to use.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually the greatest day in the history of the world will belong to

The day http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869746p1.html comes out.

Who ya gonna call?

Though I do expect GTA4 to kick all kinds of ass, and will be on my way shortly to get it.

by marinator on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't care for GTA

I don’t judge people who play it, but for myself it just doesn’t feel right you know? I wish there was a way to play it as a good guy. I know that isn’t the point, but I just don’t like playing a bad guy in such a “realistic” game. Messes with my karma.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In this one supposedly you can be more of a good guy.

You have your own cell phone and can call the cops on the baddies if you see someone doing something you may deem morally wrong.

by marinator on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I have the option to play a straight up good guy

then I will definitely check it out. I made it through about three hours of San Andreas before I just didn’t like the choices I was being forced to make.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, the last two games show the evolution of the player.

In GTA: San Andreas, and with GTA IV (supposedly…I haven’t played GTA IV yet) at first your player may seem like a bad guy (random killings, robberies, etc.) but eventually they start trying to better themselves and start earning a more honest living.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I had a PS3/X-box 360 then I would care.

I’m about a year behind every one else video game wise. The last one did kick all sorts of ass. Sadly I have very little time for video games aside from WoW and the occasional Magic the Gathering: Online.

by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WoW?

That should take up all of your free time alone. It did when I was hooked, sadly. I actually lost a couple friends to WoW, they are like Smeagol now hiding in their basements playing WoW.

by marinator on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow is just the same ol'

MMORPG exp crunch. I really don’t see why it has been so much more successful than any other.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It has elf chicks...?

That and great support from it’s staff. Though it does tend to get very boring when you hit 70 and have no time for raiding.

by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every friggin' player looks just like everyone else!

WOW has terrible player models.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I went into isolation,

when I started WoW, burning my lock up to 70 in about four months… then I realized my girlfriend was on the verge of leaving me and I had no time for raiding so I DE’d all my purples, and gave away my entire inventory and all my gold.

by sammy on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never really got into WoW.

Then again, I always thought it was kinda stupid to pay a monthly fee to play a video game.

I played Guild Wars for a while with some friends, but then school got in the way and that was pretty much the end of my experiences in MMORPG’s.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've spent a few years playing MMORPGs

but that was back in the heyday of EverQuest. WoW never seemed that interesteing. Maybe I’m just too old school.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I played Dark Age of Camelot for a year

True Story: I realised I had to quit playing when my buddy called me up to say “Hey everyone is going out tonight, when should I pick you up?” I actually said “I can’t go out with you because my guild is holding a ceremony to induct our new members.” When my fake life began taking precedence over my real life I discovered I had a problem.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Luckily, my EQ time coincided with me living alone, working nights,

and all my friends from school had left town. I had literally nothing else to do.

I spent a lot of time with Iggwilv the Shadowknight.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was playing a female

on a role-playing server. That got a little awkward, but frankly the amount of time you invest into an MMORPG wouldn’t you rather stare at a hot girl for hours on end?

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't roleplay my character so much

but I did tend to roleplay a female player. I found that was the best way to get free stuff. I took my female Dark Elf into a common area one day and said, “Wow, Wood Elves are CUTE!!” and literally 8 Wood Elf guys fell all over each other giving me stuff. It was stupid.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and I beta-tested DAoC.

But only briefly. I had much more extensive beta experience with Anarchy Online and Star Wars Galaxies (SWG was a pretty good game until they removed the two best character classes in Beta 2 – Miner and Industrialist).

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was super excited about SW Galaxies

I even bought the 80 dollar deluxe edition. I played for about four days before I realized that it sucked ass. Never played it again.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I played it four about 4 months

but that was all pre-release. As soon asthe beta ended, I never gave it another thought (except to lament two things – how badly they screwed it up through their insistence that every possible moment of gameplay be considered “fun” by the majority of players, and what a shame it was that such a good facegen tool was wasted in a crappy game like that.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

EverCrack is a more epic, fantasy-oriented game

So that drives a lot of people.

WoW is more of a PvP environment, even though many people will say otherwise. The entire game base is to kill the other side. Always has been, always will be.

Basically, it all really depends. WoW can be a lot of fun though as long as you don’t go overboard. Sadly, there are a lot of weak-willed people out there who hate their lives and want to crawl into a cave and start over, and WoW caters to that excuse.

by cwel87 on Apr 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My favourite MMORPG was and continues to be EVE Online.

EVE is a great game (though I haven’t played it in a couple of years). It’s less social than the other games because you never see the other characters – just their ships – so people seem less inclined to start casual conversation, and the learning curve is damned-near vertical, so that keeps out a lot of casual players. But I really enjoyed it. I spent hundreds of hours mining asteroids by myself.

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can never stick with EVE - at most, I've played it for a month or two at a time

Once you get past the newb stage, if you don’t have people, what on earth do you do? Run lvl 2,3 missions in a Drake, forever? If I could find a cool place to park (with people) I’d play more seriously. Right now, I just start up a new trial when I get the urge to look at pretty space ships in warp drive.

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 30, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I enjoyed solitary trading. Buy goods one place - sell them in another.

It took a lot of time to work out where the profitable trade routes were, and whether you could afford to take the shorter routes through low-security space (yes, if you made the trip in a shuttle first and bookmarked all the jumpgate locations), and whether you were willing to smuggle illegal goods.

I also enjoyed solitary mining.

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone is giving this game 10/10

A lot of the reviews I’ve read have called it possibly the greatest game ever.

My roommate is getting it tonight…

by patsfan on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm. . .

Alpha Centauri, Final Fantasy 7, and Baldur’s Gate may have something to say about that.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alpha Centauri is the greatest game of all time hands down no questions asked

I’m still sad and stunned that they never made a sequel…

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Firaxis held an online vote once

for the fans to pick their next project. AC2 got over 75% of the vote. Where the hell is it? You should try the Fall from Heaven 2 mod for Civ 4. It is almost as good as AC. Basically AC, only fantasy instead of Sci-Fi.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Linky?

I mean I like Civ, I really do. But Civ for me was always one of those “Hmmm, I’m bored, what should I do? Oh, I’ll play Civ” type games. AC was like COD4 – it was a “the faster I drive home/earlier I get up, the quicker I can play!” kind of game

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the parallel there but am I missing something about AC?

I think I stopped playing it with a couple weeks. I am still playing Civ4 w/ BTS at least a couple times a week.

Maybe I just didn’t give it a fair shake, I was getting out of gaming a lot around when that came out and have only recently been back in.

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, you probably didn't give it a long enough trial

I hated AC at first because I tried to play it like a RTS C&C style game, and it just doesn’t work that way. Once I learned how to make it work, it got a LOT more fun. You kinda have to enjoy the nerdiness of making up your futuristic units (not a problem for me – I am very literally a rocket scientist), but the depth of the game is incredible. What I liked the most was how many different ways the game would play out, even though everything (combat, resources, production) was fairly simple in nature and intuitive to understand.

Plus, once I found out you could make Invisible Submarine Carriers of Doom, I OWNED every time, even on the hard difficulties.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Put Probe Team equipment on those subs.

You’ll thank me.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Already did that

I have mastered any and all strategy involving the water. I make a special probe team cruiser and then make a new water base right by an opponents port base and then just run it there every turn and steal credits. Then I use the credits to hurry more probe teams and steal everything in sight

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you play on an archipelago planet, naval superiority

does make the game laughably easy. Keep your enemies at bay until you can do orbital insertions with your drop pods and destroy all their resources. Everyone else is trapped on a little island and you control the entire world.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I started playing CIV4 about a month ago.

I am still getting used to the different strategies playing against the computer. I can’t say I enjoy all that much because I am playing against the computer.

I have yet to try multiplayer. This must be where the real fun is.

by Wilder. on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am horny for the Xbox 360 one coming out.

Its scaled down obviously but looks like the multiplayer will be a lot of fun and of course less time consuming.

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

See, this is the problem I have with the CIV games.

They are waaaay too time consuming to get maximum pleasure out of. Games like Warcraft, Starcraft, and Command & Conquer seem to have it perfect. You can get a good game done in 2 hours. The CIV games take 4+ hours… and that is against the computer.

by Wilder. on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think I've ever completed a Civ game in as little as 4 hours.

40 hours, maybe.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Civ2 was the first game that I ever stayed up more than 24 hours to play continuously

When robots take over the world and use our bodies as batteries, they won’t build us The Matrix, they’ll give us Civilization.

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 30, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Civ4 is a massive improvement over Civ3

but still not up to the standard set by Alpha Centauri.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing will ever be up to AC's standard

I really don’t believe there will ever be a better game made. That is not hyperbole, I honestly believe that.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When I was moving out of my parents' house

I bought two games in anticipation of soon buying a computer (yes, I bought the games first). Those games were Alpha Centauri and Baldur’s Gate.

It’s all been downhill from there.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Civ3 is Sid Meier's Rocky V.

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a really bad idea.

I’m am totally downloading this.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

To this day

I still have all the wonder videos and tech speeches memorized. Remember, it is every citizen’s final duty to go into the tanks.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless;

if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it, nor the wise make plans against it.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the hunter seeker algorithim

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

AKA the cheapest thing ever

I used to read the strategy guide for that game as bedtime material

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't find the CPU used Probe Teams that often.

But since I played the University a lot (almost always), I really needed it.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

University is money

I’m always University or Pirates in the expo so I can be relentless with my navy

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was a Gaian

I would breed spores and spores of mind worms and use Planet against everyone else. God I’m a nerd.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tried other factions, but I realised once when I was leading the world in research

with the Believers that I was really just playing everyone as if they were the University, so I might as well have just been the University.

I named all of my bases after German scientists. I always started with Einstein, Oppenheimer, Schrödinger, and Heisenberg.

Who’s the nerd now?

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Acamedician Zokharv (?)

Was wicked evil though.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How in God's name (see what I did there?) did you lead the world in research with the Believers?

Did this take you like 250 turns to accomplish? Did you steal tech from everyone else?

One time after 225 turns I somehow finished the tech tree and was making three future thought discoveries a turn. Needless to say, I’ve never matched that game score.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man it has been years since I have talked about this game

I thought I was alone. You guys rock.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you guys happen to have a cracked copy for PC that I might be able to use?

I only have the game at my parents house, and since I live 1300 miles from my parents, I don’t get to play anymore…

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I only have them on CD

I think you can download the full game somewhere online though

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alpha Centauri used to be available through GameTap

but then EA cancelled all their GameTap agreements. Bastards.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Network Nodes

That’s the biggest advantage the University has – the free Network Node at each base. To match them, you need a Network Node at every base (of course, you know this). It wasn’t sustainable, though – I lost that game.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I spent a LONG time trying to figure out how to get around that with the Gaians or Peacekeepers, but in the end, there’s just no substitute for them. The only other thing I could do was play Pirates and pray that I found good Unity pods at sea every time.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you can make the University your vassals

and keep giving them bases (as soon as you do they get a free Network Node), you can get your research that way.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmmm

My next fave strategy was with Pirates in the expansion – I would just go for Unity pods at sea to get free tech and credits early. Then I used credits to buy more boats, more boats to find more pods and explore, more pods = more colony pods = more pop = more research. Self-propogating cycle :)

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was always amazed that the CPU factions didn't

actively collect Unity pods – they’re so potentially valuable.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My favorite Civ quote

Now it is day and night the irons clang, and like poor galley slaves; We toil and toil and when we die, must fill dishonored graves; But late one night, when all is quiet in the land; I’ll shoot those tyrants one and all, I’ll gun the floggers down; I’ll give the ground a little shock, remember what I say; And they will yet regret they have sent Jim Jones in chains to Botany Bay. “Jim Jones” Traditional

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FF7 FTW

Though it sits in a stack in my den unfinished along with FF Tactics, FF8, Dragon Warrior 8, and Resident Evil: Code Veronica waiting for the day I finish them.

by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't bother finishing FF8

A lame ending for a lame game. Not Shadowrun (SNEs/Genesis) lame, but pretty close.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

There was a huge pile of suck between FF7 and FF9. In fact let’s all forget that FF8 even existed and try to convince people that FF7 went straight to FF9 because odd numbers are artsy.

by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although

FF4, FF6, and FF12 all rock. FF10 is decent, but FF10 part 2 sucks the big one.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed.

Though the only FF (other than Tactics) game I have ever played more than once is the original on the NES. I could play that over and over.

by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know, FF11 is popular with some,

but I’ve never understood the appeal (or of MMORPGS in general, for that matter). FF10 and FF12 are pretty great, though.

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FF8 started out really well

But completely lost it at the start of the 2nd disk

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FF8 was no where near as bad as FF9.

FF6, though, was the greatest game in the series.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My rundown

FF7- Best all around; FF6- Best story; FF4- Best Charecters; FF12- Best Plot

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh.

I personally believe FF7 is a bit overrated. I mean, it’s good, but not OMG TIHS IS TEH BESTEST GAME EVAR good.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like I said, not OMG this game roxxorrz!!11!

But it is the best all around FF they have made yet. Come on, can’t you still remember that opening FMV like it was yesterday? You didn’t cry when that douchebag Sephiroth murdered Aerith?

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

...You cried with Sephiroth killed Aerith?

Come on that was a pretty cheesy death scene. Lost Odyssey had a death that was 10x greater.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell yes I cried

And I don’t even care.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are so many better things to cry over.

The death of KOS-MOS in Xenosaga
THE ENTIRE ENDING OF FFX!

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude I was 17

cut me some slack.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just sayin

if you’re going to cry, cry over something good.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lost Odyssey any good?

Better than Mass Effect?

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mass Effect >>>>>>>>>> Lost Odyssey

Lost Odyssey isn’t anything great, but it’s still a fairly good game. Doesn’t deserve the bad rap it’s gotten from a lot of reviewers.

The death scene in LO is probably the saddest moment in video game history, though.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 was the all around best, IMO.

I think people who loved 7 so much was because it was so highly anticipated because it was the first RPG of its console generation, and it was so well polished and wasn’t a let-down at all. 7 was terrific by all means, but I played it when I borrowed it from a friend when I first bought my PS2 (didn’t have a PS1), so I wasn’t so amazed by its ground-breaking graphics. But if I had waited so long for it to come out when it did and built up all the anticipation most of its lovers did, I bet I would’ve loved it more too. I played 6 about 10 years after it was made and I finally understood why there were so many diehards still around.

I loved the plot of 10, but they left the game as a whole too unpolished and it’s a shame the characters sucked. I do remember liking the graphics a lot, but I still really wish they did more with it. They could have made it more groundbreaking than 7 and it had the potential to be my favorite RPG of all time.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 29, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The story in 6 was just outstanding

It even had my favorite literary plot device. The villain who becomes a hero. Celes was awesome.

by thewyrm on Apr 30, 2008 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the heads up

I got an old copy secondhand and got some way into it but left it on the shelf once school started last fall.

by Gomez on Apr 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you love video game RPG's

the best one ever made is Planescape: Torment

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wrong.

Shining Force & Shining Force 2

And Secret of Mana was awesome because it was multiplayer.

by Wilder. on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude dude DUDE!!!

I love Shining Force and rarely run into people who have played it, let alone loved it.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you like Shining Force,

get yourself a GBA emulator and download both the Fire Emblem games, as well as Tactics Ogre. The Advance Wars series is fun, too. The GBA is just an awesome awesome platform with a ton of great games. All these 2D pixel and sprite artists that refined their skills on the 16-bit systems (and PS1 to an extent) had nowhere else to go after consoles went 3D.

by sammy on Apr 29, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Torment had the best story

but I preferred Baldur’s Gate’s gameplay.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey wait there is an extra line written her. . .

Don’t trust the Skull. What the hell! Awesome story.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wrong.

Chrono Trigger is the single greatest JRPG ever conceived.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chrono Trigger = Fucking Amazing

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except its really not

the more hype for it I read online, the more I pause and reflect on what a poor game it was.

Better than most of the crap RPGs at the time, yes, but still overall pretty meh. JRPGs in general were really mediocre at that time.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 29, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also the correct answer

for best JRPG ever is BoF Dragon Quarter.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 29, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was great

Overhyped does not mean bad. It just means overhyped.

Best RPG of all time by my estimation is Suikoden II. As a matter of fact, this list makes me sad, because it leads me to believe none of you have actually played the greatest game of all time.

Sad state of affairs.

by cwel87 on Apr 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've played Suikoden II.

Chrono Trigger just does edge it out in my mind.

by BrianL on Apr 30, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chrono Trigger is my favorite RPG ever.

By far. I just wish I could unplay it so I could fall in love with it all over again. I must’ve played and beaten it a good 4 or 5 times, not counting the times I’ve beaten it with the alternate endings.

It’s a bore for me now, like MVP which I’ve put 800+ hours into it, but man, I just remember how amazed I was at how much fun I had with it. I loved it so much I was greatly disappointed with the sequel Chrono Cross, which was widely reviewed as the best RPG of its year.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 29, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chrono Trigger is so awesome

I spent so much time on that, doing all of the New Game+ endings…

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 30, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally, my favorite is

Secret of Mana for SNES. Funnest multiplayer game around.

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, yes, and yes.

by Wilder. on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked that game a lot too, and I loved the multiplayer.

Has anyone ever played any of the sequels? I know people who have and thought it was much better than the first. They were never brought to the US, but you can download the rom with a language patch. It’s been one of those games I’ve been meaning to play but just keep putting it off.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 29, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phew, for a second you were talking about the execrable "sequels" for PSX and PS2.

SD3? Yeah it’s pretty awesome and has fucking amazing Graphics for the SNES—I just didn’t find the story as involving, though.

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 29, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really a sequel.

But I got about 2 hours of enjoyment out of Children of Mana, on the DS. The storyline is so simple, and the character development so nonexistent, that it was literally 2 hours of same-ish levels, and I was done. I then spent 7 hours beating it with getting everything and leveling up, but that was a waste of time, as you don’t really get anything cool.

I did get like 15$ store credit back when I traded it in, though, so it wasn’t a total loss.

by Faux on Apr 29, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you're going for a handheld "Mana" game,

go with “Sword of Mana” (which is actually a revamped version of the prequel to Secret, which for some reason was called Final Fantasy Adventure in the US; yes I’m a ridiculous nerd)—it’s not quite as good as Secret, but it has a lot of the same elements and actually has a fairly challenging and absorbing story.

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 29, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That game really sucked.

Maybe it was OK for its time, but I’d much rather play a Zelda Gameboy game. And I find Zelda boring for the most part.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 29, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

While your other two choices are impeccable

I have to disqualify your opinion for listing Final Fantasy 7.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 29, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why all the FF7 hate?

Something I’m missing? Most people I know who have played it think it is awesome too. It single handedly made video game RPG’s popular in the US.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bought a PSX just to play FF7 many years ago.

I played FF7 for maybe 4 hours. I then sold my PSX.

I get the impression that people who were already RPG fans before FF7 arrived disliked it because it doesn’t really play like an RPG. JRPGs are a very different game from the western RPGs we’d all played previously, and as such we were horribly disappointed by it.

FF7 was contemporary with Fallout. I can’t see someone who was a big fan of Fallout really being impressed with the RPG-ness of FF7.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've always been a fan of JRPGs

I simply felt that FF7 wasn’t anything special. My favorite RPG of the PSX era was Xenogears, and FF7 couldn’t hold a candle to it.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't too impressed with the story of FF7 myself.

I thought that was the only disappointment with it, though.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 29, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Currently, my goal is to stop sucking at COD4 (pull my kill/death ratio above 1 and finish prestige again)

then I’ll consider getting GTA IV.

Also, is a terrible Freudian slip that the first time I tried to type “goal,” I typed “girl” instead, leading to the sentence “Currently, my girl is ….?”

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm most looking forward to Mass Effect PC.

But I’m a bit concerned that the formation of babbys might limit my gaming time.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

God I can't wait for Mass Effect PC.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just ordered my new PC yesterday.

I’m probably most excited about the 1.5 TB of HDD space.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dual-SLI?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes - my first dual-GPU system.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to the club.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats alot of porn

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have 80 GB of Doctor Who episodes.

And some porn.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oddly enough

He touches himself inapropriately while watching Dr. Who. The porn is just for entertainmement.

by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a reason I found that Paris Hilton SNL sketch so funny...

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok I just read IGN's review and I am buying it.

Probably won’t play til this weekend though.

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You know what I've been playing alot of recently?

NBA Jam for the SNES. Man that’s a sweet game.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 10:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that's another top ten game of all time.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

For

GAME: HE’s ON FIRE!!
ME: SHIT INJURE HIM!!!!

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was an awesome game, not gonna lie.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

NBA Jam is where I learned it's better to just goaltend all say

That way, you’re never not on fire.

by joof on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm, goaltend all day.

I fail

by joof on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I read it how you meant it.

What does that say about my reading comprehension?

by Wilder. on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

npt srue, waht do yuu tjnik it menas?

by Matthew on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm going after Mario Kart Wii

I don’t have a PS3/XBOX 360, but if I was interested in either of those systems I’d be all over GTA 4. A game with the sheer robustness that GTA 4 has is too much to pass up if I actually own the system.

But good Lord, I have a backlog. Just now finished Fire Emblem:Radiant Dawn clocking in at over 91 Hours of game time. Good God that game took forever.

by ThundaPC on Apr 29, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I've had it since 9 PM yesterday

The game is incredible. The only time I’ve ever played a game that was so far ahead of everything else out there was Half life 2.

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not to hijack, but while we're talking about Xbox

COD4 guys – did Dragunov ruin your life? I HATED that gun with a passion. I racked up like 1 ast/kill with it and it wasn’t that accurate to begin with. Give me R700 or M40 any day over that POS.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't really snipe,

but I used it on Creek and got like 10 in a row right when the new maps came out. That was with it not upgraded at all. Apparently being a bad sniper makes me good at using it.

Proves your point I guess.

by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Creek makes me sad now

because I think I was among the first to figure out how effective the silenced AK was on that map… and now everyone does it, so I wind up at like 1.2:1 instead of the gaudy 5 or 6:1 I was running the first weekend on that map

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I HATE the Dragunov.

It has the same accuracy and damage as whatever the rapid-fire no-recoil sniper rifle (i forget what that one is) but it is bolt action so you can’t fire multiple rounds. I have 1 kill with that thing.

by seattlesundevil on Apr 29, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I shot that damn thing until I got the 100 kills. Worst mistake ever playing COD

Because I found I virtually had to hit people in the head to kill them – I prob got 25 of those 100 kills by noob-cannon-ing that thing whenever I got close to someone

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YOU KNOW WHAT WAS AN AWESOME GAME?

LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL ON NES [/skoorbo]

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

YOU'RE WRONG AND JEFF'S A NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE!!111

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

skoorbo was right though, it is a good game

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still like Bases Loaded more, and I've got both.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just downloaded this on the Wii.

So money.

by Teej on Apr 29, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got it last night at midnight

as did TootmyKazoo

Played till 4am. Currently sitting at work in a dazed mess that just wants to get home and play some more. I’m a huge fan of the series and so far everything about this one lives up to every expectations. Played a couple of matches of multiplayer (only deathmatch and team deathmatch) and if I had some friends online with me to play some cops n crooks or coop it would of been the most enjoyable experience of my life.

Robert send me a friend request. I’m planning on most of tonight so those of you that have the game that aren’t already on my friends list send me a request – XBL name – Scruffy Lefty

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

jesus I'm tired

and I have 4 videos to have done by tomorrow :(

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Done

Brett should have his this afternoon. I’ve got 8 liters of Mt Dew and a Mariners game that I went nothing to do with tonight. Lets do this thing.

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dammit

I have add Brett again.

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and Pip

I’m gonna wipe the floor with you :)

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It's the only way I'll learn...

What, you mean I can’t use the rocket launcher when you’re standing 3 feet away from me?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can

and Hilarity would ensue

I took a couple in the face last night and went flying

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dammit Phildopip

I was SO CERTAIN THAT Wlad, Reed, AND Clement were called up.
Why’d you screw with me?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm so distracted by thinking about GTA IV

that if those three were called up I probably wouldn’t even notice.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ditto

fuck the mariners until at least one of them is called up

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know, dude

Don’t excite the rest of us like this :P

by Gomez on Apr 29, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it ironic that the VERY NEXT DAY they actually ddi get called up?

by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and the driving physics are nuts

way more realistic. I was flying through town and tried to stop on a dime and ended up taking out a hot dog vendor.

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I should also note

that I used to play the GTA london multiplayer and loved it. GTA 4 is the exact same thing but better

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The GTA games look intriguing

But I’ve never gotten them because I know a) I’d never be able to put the needed time into them and b) I’m sure some of the tougher missions would piss me off in their difficulty. I don’t have the shoot-em-up gaming ability I had long ago.

by Gomez on Apr 29, 2008 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I hear you.

There’s a reason I play so many JRPGs now. I’ve gone from being a “hardcore” shoot-em-up gamer to just playing for the story now.

I’ve gone soft.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is a babby?

And is making one anywhere near as fun as making a baby?

by Sec 108 on Apr 29, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It might be.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

God I was hoping this internet meme

had died already

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It will die only when it stops being hilarious.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Read: Never.

I think my neighbors assumed I was a mad man when I watched that for the first time at 2 a.m. – I laughed my ass off.

by seattlesundevil on Apr 29, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys are a bunch of nerds

Kingdom of Loathing is the only RPG of any kind worth its salt

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 29, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fail, Corco.

Fail.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I voted Iron Man...but how is The Dark Night not on this list?

by SethGrandpa on Apr 29, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, man, that was a glaring omission.

I’ll see if I can edit the poll.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No dice.

I don’t see a way to add an option to the poll.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

or Dark Knight, for that matter...

by BHP on Apr 29, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dark Knight might be the first movie in a long time that I might

actually pay money to go and see.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im playing GTA4 right now

Its fucking awesome.

got my ass kicked in bowling, though.

by Slica on Apr 29, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

My girlfriend won't let me play GTA.

She’s concerned about the pro-anarchy message it might give the kids.

Of course, we don’t have kids (yet – she’s pregnant), but the rule stands.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your girlfriend is Jack Thompson?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just wet my pants

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad I could be of service.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Show her this article

from Slate today, and then let her play it for a couple hours. She’ll realize that it’s not all about mayhem and murder, even though that’s a central theme you can also just wander around and do random stuff if you want.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only two more hours until I can go buy this game and start killing some hookers...

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you don't have it on preorder

I wouldn’t bother going to Best Buy, EB, or Gamestop to pick it up.

Try Fred Meyers, grabbed my copy there.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The local Best Buy has over 400 copies.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 29, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

My Best Buy was sold out about an hour after opening.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crazy. The had boxes and boxes of 'em at 11 AM

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 29, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I preordered it through GameCrazy. I should be fine.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Target

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to push my luck.

After all, she’s the one who bought me the 360.

And pretty soon I’ll be spending all my time playing Mass Effect PC anyway.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

alien lesbian sex ahoy!

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait

there’s alien lesbian sex in Mass Effect?

I was thinking it was going to be as stupid as Deux Ex 2… but alien lesbian sex might push it up into the realm of some truly great games…

Like STAR CONTROL II
or ULTIMA IV
or FALLOUT

OK, I’m done dating myself.

by johnbai on Apr 29, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But all excellent games those.

I loved Star Control (yes, I thought the first one was better). I welcome our Ur-Quan masters.

Fox News had this big story about how BioWare (evil Canadians) were destroying America with their lesbian alien sex. It was great.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure which version of Mass Effect Fox News was playing

but I want it.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They hadn't played it at all.

They later issued an apology in which they admitted they probably should have played the game first, or talked to BioWare about it, before going off half-cocked.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The kid's not born yet! You can leave and play GTA IV!

Anyone who believes video games cause violence…..

...
...

...

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 29, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not violence. Anarchy.

That’s an important distinction.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

GTA4 >>> Halo 3

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Mass Effect >>> All.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rock Band >>> Mass Effect.

Yes, I said it.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I question your judgment on this matter.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And you would be correct to do so.

I get a crazy amount of enjoyment from Rock Band…definitely more than the average person. I could play Rock Band all night and day without ever quitting. My friend and I did the “Endless Setlist” in Band World Tour mode about a month ago. The “Endless Setlist” is where you play all 58 songs that come with the disc straight through without stopping. That took us about 5 hours to get through, then we did another setlist of 8 songs, then another with 11 songs. We were playing for almost 8 hours straight.

And I was still hungry for more.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't you rather learn how to play

a real drumkit or guitar?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's my issue with those games too

I’d rather play my real guitar and drums..

by seattlesundevil on Apr 29, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just play saxophone...

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rock Band actually does teach you to play the drums to some degree.

Not so much with the guitar, but getting your limbs to work in together each doing different things is the hard part of learning the drums, and Rock Band helps with that.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I already know how to play guitar.

And Rock Band has gotten me to the point where I’m about to start looking for a drum set to learn on. But I love Rock Band so much because any of my friends can come over, turn the difficulty down to easy, and rock along side of me. It’s not just playing the notes, but having people over, drinking some beers, and feeling just a little bit like a rock star.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Am I the only one that thinks the Halo games were never really that good?

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I enjoyed System Shock 2 more.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

System Shock 2 is one of the top 3 FPS games ever.

I don’t think anyone disputes that.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I enjoyed BioShock much more

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BioShock is fantastic.

Supposedly they’re working on a prequel.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you, but I had the misfortune of first playing Halo on a PC.

And with kbm controls, Halo was absurdly easy.

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Halo had really good local multiplayer

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you,

though I was never a big fps guy. I will say that the shield system + limited weapons + well done arenas = really good multiplayer balance. But, eh, I’ll take Super Smash Bros (I only ever played the original) over any fps any day.

by sammy on Apr 29, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heresy!

by redwolf75 on Apr 29, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So...

One of the things about GTA IV that the developers were bragging about is that there are essentially no load screens in the entire game after the initial load. Is this true?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Somewhat

There is still some but not the annoying stop gameplay ones

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are loading screens before every mission

But no load screens on zone-changes.

by Jordan of Boise on Apr 30, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So I'm going to be playing most of the night

But I was thinking about trying to arrange some multiplayer mayhem say around 8 to 8:30?

Sound good to the people who want in?

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yea

by Robert on Apr 29, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I might be down for that.

I’ll have to see how I’m doing in the game before I decide whether I want to get my ass kicked online or not.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We could play one of the coop escort missions

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's what I learned from playing GTA IV last night:

The “no load screen” thing is false. When you start every mission there is a load screen. Granted, it’s not very long, but there is a definite stopping of the action.
The car physics have been completely reworked. The driving is a lot more realistic, in that you can’t stop on a dime anymore, the handling is sluggish in most cases, when you put your foot to the floor you lose traction, and rain has a drastic effect on your traction.
The GPS rules. I don’t have to keep constantly switching to my map and say to myself “ok, left, then two rights, then two lefts.”
The camera seems a bit wonky. In GTA: San Andreas you could look to your right while walking straight ahead, and when you let go of the right stick (the camera control stick) it would slowly shift back to looking straight ahead. In GTA IV when you let go of the right stick it snaps back to looking forward. It’s a little disorienting.
The extras in the game are great. Within the game, I sat down and watched TV for about 15 minutes. I saw a standup routine from Ricky Gervais, and an animated show called “Republican Space Rangers”. It’s amazing how deep this game goes.
There are more things I noticed, but I’ve forgotten them.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 30, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I must. MUST get a 360 and get this game.

I played all the other ones, and I can’t miss out on this one. The GPS sounds awesome too, I used to hate having to go to the map and do the “left, then the third right, then the second left” thing….

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 30, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs