The greatest day in the history of the world
Grand Theft Auto IV is released today. I put down my preorder on this puppy a couple of months ago, and if I could've skipped work today to play it, I would have. Unfortunately I had too much going on.
So, does anybody have it yet? Has anybody played it? Both Xbox Magazine and IGN have given it 10/10. IGN hasn't given any game a 10/10 since Soul Calibur in 1999.
Also, if anybody's down for some multiplayer on Xbox 360, my gamertag is Phildopip.
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I havn't ever really gotten into the GTA games.
I may start but I just love playing COD4 still and I am looking forward to the Civilization game thats coming soon.
How does the online work? Is it like a deathmatch or something?
by hcoguy on Apr 29, 2008 9:53 AM PDT 0 recs
We already have Mario Kart Wii
and like any Mario Kart game, it is fun. Unfortunately, though, it just doesn’t blow me away with racing goodness, and by God that wheel attachment is hard to use.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 29, 2008 9:54 AM PDT 0 recs
Actually the greatest day in the history of the world will belong to
The day http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869746p1.html comes out.
Who ya gonna call?
Though I do expect GTA4 to kick all kinds of ass, and will be on my way shortly to get it.
by marinator on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
I don't care for GTA
I don’t judge people who play it, but for myself it just doesn’t feel right you know? I wish there was a way to play it as a good guy. I know that isn’t the point, but I just don’t like playing a bad guy in such a “realistic” game. Messes with my karma.
by thewyrm on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 AM PDT 0 recs
In this one supposedly you can be more of a good guy.
You have your own cell phone and can call the cops on the baddies if you see someone doing something you may deem morally wrong.
by marinator on
Apr 29, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
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If I have the option to play a straight up good guy
then I will definitely check it out. I made it through about three hours of San Andreas before I just didn’t like the choices I was being forced to make.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
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Actually, the last two games show the evolution of the player.
In GTA: San Andreas, and with GTA IV (supposedly…I haven’t played GTA IV yet) at first your player may seem like a bad guy (random killings, robberies, etc.) but eventually they start trying to better themselves and start earning a more honest living.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
by Phildopip on
Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
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If I had a PS3/X-box 360 then I would care.
I’m about a year behind every one else video game wise. The last one did kick all sorts of ass. Sadly I have very little time for video games aside from WoW and the occasional Magic the Gathering: Online.
by aestivalis on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
WoW?
That should take up all of your free time alone. It did when I was hooked, sadly. I actually lost a couple friends to WoW, they are like Smeagol now hiding in their basements playing WoW.
by marinator on
Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
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Wow is just the same ol'
MMORPG exp crunch. I really don’t see why it has been so much more successful than any other.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
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It has elf chicks...?
That and great support from it’s staff. Though it does tend to get very boring when you hit 70 and have no time for raiding.
by aestivalis on
Apr 29, 2008 10:13 AM PDT
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Every friggin' player looks just like everyone else!
WOW has terrible player models.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
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I went into isolation,
when I started WoW, burning my lock up to 70 in about four months… then I realized my girlfriend was on the verge of leaving me and I had no time for raiding so I DE’d all my purples, and gave away my entire inventory and all my gold.
by sammy on
Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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I never really got into WoW.
Then again, I always thought it was kinda stupid to pay a monthly fee to play a video game.
I played Guild Wars for a while with some friends, but then school got in the way and that was pretty much the end of my experiences in MMORPG’s.
Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.
by Goose on
Apr 29, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
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I've spent a few years playing MMORPGs
but that was back in the heyday of EverQuest. WoW never seemed that interesteing. Maybe I’m just too old school.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
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I played Dark Age of Camelot for a year
True Story: I realised I had to quit playing when my buddy called me up to say “Hey everyone is going out tonight, when should I pick you up?” I actually said “I can’t go out with you because my guild is holding a ceremony to induct our new members.” When my fake life began taking precedence over my real life I discovered I had a problem.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
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Luckily, my EQ time coincided with me living alone, working nights,
and all my friends from school had left town. I had literally nothing else to do.
I spent a lot of time with Iggwilv the Shadowknight.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT
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I was playing a female
on a role-playing server. That got a little awkward, but frankly the amount of time you invest into an MMORPG wouldn’t you rather stare at a hot girl for hours on end?
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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I didn't roleplay my character so much
but I did tend to roleplay a female player. I found that was the best way to get free stuff. I took my female Dark Elf into a common area one day and said, “Wow, Wood Elves are CUTE!!” and literally 8 Wood Elf guys fell all over each other giving me stuff. It was stupid.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
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Oh, and I beta-tested DAoC.
But only briefly. I had much more extensive beta experience with Anarchy Online and Star Wars Galaxies (SWG was a pretty good game until they removed the two best character classes in Beta 2 – Miner and Industrialist).
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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I was super excited about SW Galaxies
I even bought the 80 dollar deluxe edition. I played for about four days before I realized that it sucked ass. Never played it again.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
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I played it four about 4 months
but that was all pre-release. As soon asthe beta ended, I never gave it another thought (except to lament two things – how badly they screwed it up through their insistence that every possible moment of gameplay be considered “fun” by the majority of players, and what a shame it was that such a good facegen tool was wasted in a crappy game like that.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
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EverCrack is a more epic, fantasy-oriented game
So that drives a lot of people.
WoW is more of a PvP environment, even though many people will say otherwise. The entire game base is to kill the other side. Always has been, always will be.
Basically, it all really depends. WoW can be a lot of fun though as long as you don’t go overboard. Sadly, there are a lot of weak-willed people out there who hate their lives and want to crawl into a cave and start over, and WoW caters to that excuse.
by cwel87 on
Apr 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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My favourite MMORPG was and continues to be EVE Online.
EVE is a great game (though I haven’t played it in a couple of years). It’s less social than the other games because you never see the other characters – just their ships – so people seem less inclined to start casual conversation, and the learning curve is damned-near vertical, so that keeps out a lot of casual players. But I really enjoyed it. I spent hundreds of hours mining asteroids by myself.
by Llewdor on
Apr 30, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
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I can never stick with EVE - at most, I've played it for a month or two at a time
Once you get past the newb stage, if you don’t have people, what on earth do you do? Run lvl 2,3 missions in a Drake, forever? If I could find a cool place to park (with people) I’d play more seriously. Right now, I just start up a new trial when I get the urge to look at pretty space ships in warp drive.
by Jordan of Boise on
Apr 30, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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I enjoyed solitary trading. Buy goods one place - sell them in another.
It took a lot of time to work out where the profitable trade routes were, and whether you could afford to take the shorter routes through low-security space (yes, if you made the trip in a shuttle first and bookmarked all the jumpgate locations), and whether you were willing to smuggle illegal goods.
I also enjoyed solitary mining.
by Llewdor on
Apr 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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Everyone is giving this game 10/10
A lot of the reviews I’ve read have called it possibly the greatest game ever.
My roommate is getting it tonight…
by patsfan on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT 0 recs
Hmmm. . .
Alpha Centauri, Final Fantasy 7, and Baldur’s Gate may have something to say about that.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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Alpha Centauri is the greatest game of all time hands down no questions asked
I’m still sad and stunned that they never made a sequel…
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
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Firaxis held an online vote once
for the fans to pick their next project. AC2 got over 75% of the vote. Where the hell is it? You should try the Fall from Heaven 2 mod for Civ 4. It is almost as good as AC. Basically AC, only fantasy instead of Sci-Fi.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
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Linky?
I mean I like Civ, I really do. But Civ for me was always one of those “Hmmm, I’m bored, what should I do? Oh, I’ll play Civ” type games. AC was like COD4 – it was a “the faster I drive home/earlier I get up, the quicker I can play!” kind of game
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
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I like the parallel there but am I missing something about AC?
I think I stopped playing it with a couple weeks. I am still playing Civ4 w/ BTS at least a couple times a week.
Maybe I just didn’t give it a fair shake, I was getting out of gaming a lot around when that came out and have only recently been back in.
by hcoguy on
Apr 29, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
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Yeah, you probably didn't give it a long enough trial
I hated AC at first because I tried to play it like a RTS C&C style game, and it just doesn’t work that way. Once I learned how to make it work, it got a LOT more fun. You kinda have to enjoy the nerdiness of making up your futuristic units (not a problem for me – I am very literally a rocket scientist), but the depth of the game is incredible. What I liked the most was how many different ways the game would play out, even though everything (combat, resources, production) was fairly simple in nature and intuitive to understand.
Plus, once I found out you could make Invisible Submarine Carriers of Doom, I OWNED every time, even on the hard difficulties.
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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Put Probe Team equipment on those subs.
You’ll thank me.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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Already did that
I have mastered any and all strategy involving the water. I make a special probe team cruiser and then make a new water base right by an opponents port base and then just run it there every turn and steal credits. Then I use the credits to hurry more probe teams and steal everything in sight
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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If you play on an archipelago planet, naval superiority
does make the game laughably easy. Keep your enemies at bay until you can do orbital insertions with your drop pods and destroy all their resources. Everyone else is trapped on a little island and you control the entire world.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
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Civ4 sounds like the sort of game I would enjoy way too much
by Matthew on
Apr 29, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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I started playing CIV4 about a month ago.
I am still getting used to the different strategies playing against the computer. I can’t say I enjoy all that much because I am playing against the computer.
I have yet to try multiplayer. This must be where the real fun is.
by Wilder. on
Apr 29, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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I am horny for the Xbox 360 one coming out.
Its scaled down obviously but looks like the multiplayer will be a lot of fun and of course less time consuming.
by hcoguy on
Apr 29, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
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See, this is the problem I have with the CIV games.
They are waaaay too time consuming to get maximum pleasure out of. Games like Warcraft, Starcraft, and Command & Conquer seem to have it perfect. You can get a good game done in 2 hours. The CIV games take 4+ hours… and that is against the computer.
by Wilder. on
Apr 29, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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I don't think I've ever completed a Civ game in as little as 4 hours.
40 hours, maybe.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
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Civ2 was the first game that I ever stayed up more than 24 hours to play continuously
When robots take over the world and use our bodies as batteries, they won’t build us The Matrix, they’ll give us Civilization.
by Jordan of Boise on
Apr 30, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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Civ4 is a massive improvement over Civ3
but still not up to the standard set by Alpha Centauri.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Nothing will ever be up to AC's standard
I really don’t believe there will ever be a better game made. That is not hyperbole, I honestly believe that.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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When I was moving out of my parents' house
I bought two games in anticipation of soon buying a computer (yes, I bought the games first). Those games were Alpha Centauri and Baldur’s Gate.
It’s all been downhill from there.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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This is a really bad idea.
I’m am totally downloading this.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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To this day
I still have all the wonder videos and tech speeches memorized. Remember, it is every citizen’s final duty to go into the tanks.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
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The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless;
if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it, nor the wise make plans against it.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
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AKA the cheapest thing ever
I used to read the strategy guide for that game as bedtime material
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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I didn't find the CPU used Probe Teams that often.
But since I played the University a lot (almost always), I really needed it.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
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University is money
I’m always University or Pirates in the expo so I can be relentless with my navy
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
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I was a Gaian
I would breed spores and spores of mind worms and use Planet against everyone else. God I’m a nerd.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
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I tried other factions, but I realised once when I was leading the world in research
with the Believers that I was really just playing everyone as if they were the University, so I might as well have just been the University.
I named all of my bases after German scientists. I always started with Einstein, Oppenheimer, Schrödinger, and Heisenberg.
Who’s the nerd now?
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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How in God's name (see what I did there?) did you lead the world in research with the Believers?
Did this take you like 250 turns to accomplish? Did you steal tech from everyone else?
One time after 225 turns I somehow finished the tech tree and was making three future thought discoveries a turn. Needless to say, I’ve never matched that game score.
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
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Man it has been years since I have talked about this game
I thought I was alone. You guys rock.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
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Do you guys happen to have a cracked copy for PC that I might be able to use?
I only have the game at my parents house, and since I live 1300 miles from my parents, I don’t get to play anymore…
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
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I only have them on CD
I think you can download the full game somewhere online though
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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Alpha Centauri used to be available through GameTap
but then EA cancelled all their GameTap agreements. Bastards.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:32 AM PDT
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Network Nodes
That’s the biggest advantage the University has – the free Network Node at each base. To match them, you need a Network Node at every base (of course, you know this). It wasn’t sustainable, though – I lost that game.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:38 AM PDT
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Yeah
I spent a LONG time trying to figure out how to get around that with the Gaians or Peacekeepers, but in the end, there’s just no substitute for them. The only other thing I could do was play Pirates and pray that I found good Unity pods at sea every time.
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
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If you can make the University your vassals
and keep giving them bases (as soon as you do they get a free Network Node), you can get your research that way.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
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Hmmmm
My next fave strategy was with Pirates in the expansion – I would just go for Unity pods at sea to get free tech and credits early. Then I used credits to buy more boats, more boats to find more pods and explore, more pods = more colony pods = more pop = more research. Self-propogating cycle :)
by seattlebruin on
Apr 29, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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I was always amazed that the CPU factions didn't
actively collect Unity pods – they’re so potentially valuable.
by Llewdor on
Apr 29, 2008 2:04 PM PDT
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My favorite Civ quote
Now it is day and night the irons clang, and like poor galley slaves; We toil and toil and when we die, must fill dishonored graves; But late one night, when all is quiet in the land; I’ll shoot those tyrants one and all, I’ll gun the floggers down; I’ll give the ground a little shock, remember what I say; And they will yet regret they have sent Jim Jones in chains to Botany Bay. “Jim Jones” Traditional
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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FF7 FTW
Though it sits in a stack in my den unfinished along with FF Tactics, FF8, Dragon Warrior 8, and Resident Evil: Code Veronica waiting for the day I finish them.
by aestivalis on
Apr 29, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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Don't bother finishing FF8
A lame ending for a lame game. Not Shadowrun (SNEs/Genesis) lame, but pretty close.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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Yeah.
There was a huge pile of suck between FF7 and FF9. In fact let’s all forget that FF8 even existed and try to convince people that FF7 went straight to FF9 because odd numbers are artsy.
by aestivalis on
Apr 29, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
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Although
FF4, FF6, and FF12 all rock. FF10 is decent, but FF10 part 2 sucks the big one.
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 10:16 AM PDT
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Indeed.
Though the only FF (other than Tactics) game I have ever played more than once is the original on the NES. I could play that over and over.
by aestivalis on
Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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I don't know, FF11 is popular with some,
but I’ve never understood the appeal (or of MMORPGS in general, for that matter). FF10 and FF12 are pretty great, though.
by Liebkartoffel on
Apr 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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FF8 started out really well
But completely lost it at the start of the 2nd disk
by Robert on
Apr 29, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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FF8 was no where near as bad as FF9.
FF6, though, was the greatest game in the series.
by BrianL on
Apr 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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My rundown
FF7- Best all around; FF6- Best story; FF4- Best Charecters; FF12- Best Plot
by thewyrm on
Apr 29, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
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Eh.
I personally believe FF7 is a bit overrated. I mean, it’s good, but not OMG TIHS IS TEH BESTEST GAME EVAR good.


