Question? is on the air
by Corco on Apr 28, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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PrintHuge thanks to ningwers and seattlebruin- the full content of Question? in readable form (the "wide" button even works) available here.
It is a diary worth reading.
Also the best we have available of the Ben Franklin diary is available here
If somebody has a server with more bandwidth let me know and I can send you the files
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Also, I think pdb owes you a 16oz tub of ham salad
by seattlebruin on Apr 28, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be contacting you shortly to make arrangements
as I am not sure as of this writing if I can make the LL night, I may have to ship you the ham salad.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
It’s also been HOF’d.
It’s like when Roberto Clemente’s plane went down—there’s no need for a five year wait.
God bless the internet
Once something is out there, you can never completely erase it.
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
I watched Remember the Titans the other day
I felt so so so so so so so dirty afterwards
by seattlebruin on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the biggest bandwidth test I've ever put it through I think
it will be interesting to see what happens
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Just reading through all of this now...
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone have such an immediate impact on LL… Two diaries with gamethread-like numbers in like a week and a half. Jeesus
I take it back. He has to be legit.
If he was a troll, there’s no way he would’ve attempted to delete the fanpost after the fact. Congrats dude, you’re just that dumb.
How did I miss this one!?! I would have tried to stand up for the poor feller.
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
In Georgia Rule, Jane Fonda was able to tell Lindsey Lohan not to swear based on the sole
principle that it was her house. Since baseball=Georgia Rule, those at home make the rules
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Whats worse?
you even saw this movie
or that you compared a Lindsay Lohan movie to baseball
by WCLittleGiant on Apr 28, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
What's worse is that yesterday
he made a comparison to The Devil Wears Prada.
I anxiously await the comparison of the M’s to Rent.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I haven't seen that one yet
Looked a little too gay
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OK I'm re-reading this thread right now
and it just might be funnier the second time around when the phrase “Show me where in the rulebook…” comes up
You know, he did have a point.
That bit in the rules that says “It is not mandatory that a club designate a hitter for the pitcher, but failure to do so prior to the game precludes the use of a Designated Hitter for that game.” is a tad ambiguous. It probably should be been written “precludes the use by that club of a Designated Hitter for that game.”
I think it's implied that it precludes the team that has failed to use a DH
by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
nooooooooooooooo
we finally got the lid back on this can of worms yesterday. Maybe it should be left on.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Truth be told
it wasn’t so much that the lid got put back on the can as the can imploded and disappeared in the aether
They might see a loophole, but there's no way they would get an umpire to let them do it
So it’s pretty irrelevant. Having just now read about half the thread (I had to stop reading because I couldn’t stop laughing), I think it would be fair to say that he would have had a point if he was saying that the rule was a bit ambiguous…but the point he actually stated was that this was an obvious strategic weapon that teams should be scorned for passing up. So he really didn’t have a point.
O.K. I'll take a shot
I know this is not exactly the point he was arguing but perhaps there is a situation where it would behoove a team to use their pitcher as a DH. And by DH I mean to say let their pitcher hit – AL clubs need only apply.
Say for instance, you had a team with a really crappy DH. Unlikely in this day and age to be sure, but go with me on this for a sec. Further, suppose this team had playing for them the likes of a Carlos Zambrano, Mike Hampton, or say a Rich Ankeil (who throw could strikes) or a even guy like Brooks Keishnik who was often used a super pinch hitter in Milwauke. Would not that pitcher be a better option at the plate then said crappy DH ?
Your favorite meme is dead
That's not what he was saying at all though
He was talking about taking your own team’s DH out of the game because doing so would force the other team to take their DH out as well, and that’s not how it works. Basically he was saying that the home team can decide whether or not the DH rule applies, like say Seattle were playing the Red Sox at home and they realized that the Sox’s DH is much better than our own, he was saying they should just up and decide to have the National League rules apply for the day and both teams would have to bat their pitchers, negating the Red Sox advantage. That only works if you can completely ignore the rules of the American League. Ad vice versa, he was advocating teams like the Rockies up and deciding to play with AL rules on any given day, it was stupid.
Rich Ankiel (who throw could strikes)
Ankiel could throw strikes… before the playoffs started anyway.
by JI on Apr 29, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Strikes Throw He.
In the Zone They Are.
...and now I'm here
Also, the DH rule requires that your DH have at least one plate appearance
to prevent you from making some starting pitcher your DH and pinch-hitting for him each time through based on the situation, but if an AL team chose not to use the DH they caould avoid this rule. Sure, they’d have to change pitchers every time they pinch-hit for one, but on those days when you’re making an emergency bullpen start, you’d think AL managers would try it.
If you're not trying to game the system
you’re not trying hard enough.
I used to work in Canadian politics, and under the rules at the time a donor would receive a $75 tax reduction from the government if he made a $100 donation to a political party.
So, I told the party they should do the following.
1. Give donor $50.
2. Ask donor for $100 donation.
3. Tell donor to claim $75 tax benefit.
The net result would be +$50 for the party, and +25 for the donor, with all of the loss absorbed by the government. It was a huge loophope in the system, but it only worked for small donations.
The party declined; they feared it would look really bad if such a ploy was ever leaked to the press. They were probably right.
But, two years later, it was made public that another federal political party had been doing exactly the same thing (same dollar amounts and everything), and they’d been doing it for years, effectively creating government funding for themselves by gaming the tax code. I was impressed.
Punto?????
Sure, he didn’t understand the rule about DH (or the tricky technical concept of “rules” in general), but what the hell was the part about Punto? Does anyone have any idea what that was supposed to be about?
If you're looking for a logical explanation to what happened in that thread
the answer is “at one point, we were asked to prove that the home team cannot arbitrarily change the rules to their liking.”
In short, none of it makes any sense, but to answer your question, he wanted to find a way to get both Nick Punto and David Ortiz out of their respective lineups. Unfortunately, his solution was to randomly change the rules of baseball at will.
by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That part actually made sense to me.
The part that confused me was when he tried to justify it by saying he’d play his pitcher at 3B.
I probably shouldn't try to think this through, but
Punto isn’t a DH. And he isn’t very good.
Am I wrong about one of these?
and yeah, that pitcher at 3B part was where the thing turned completely surreal for me.
I think his argument was that
the Twinkies could put their DH at third at the expense of defense and Puntos bat. The bat the Red Sox would have to pull to put Ortiz on the field would be greater than that of Punto
So whoever the Red Sox bench with no DH > Punto, therefore the Twins win
It’s still stupid
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
And it still doesn't make sense
even when you try to explain it rationally
by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you!
You have a remarkable ability to get inside the mind of a lunatic. Have you considered a career as a criminal profiler?
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