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Question? is on the air

Huge thanks to ningwers and seattlebruin- the full content of Question? in readable form (the "wide" button even works) available here.

It is a diary worth reading.

Also the best we have available of the Ben Franklin diary is available here

If somebody has a server with more bandwidth let me know and I can send you the files

Lorem ipsum dolor amat and such and such and so and so and this and that and all that which is what it is because that's what it is so help me God

 

 

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It’s also been HOF’d.

It’s like when Roberto Clemente’s plane went down—there’s no need for a five year wait.

by JI on Apr 28, 2008 4:55 PM PDT   0 recs

God bless the internet

Once something is out there, you can never completely erase it.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 28, 2008 4:59 PM PDT   0 recs

I cried

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 28, 2008 5:03 PM PDT   0 recs

Also

This is DMZ’s chance for revenge against your server

by Robert on Apr 28, 2008 5:10 PM PDT   0 recs

I know I'm scared

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just reading through all of this now...

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone have such an immediate impact on LL… Two diaries with gamethread-like numbers in like a week and a half. Jeesus

by thenatural on Apr 28, 2008 5:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Never saw this.

The guy can’tbe serious, nobody is that dumb.

by redwolf75 on Apr 28, 2008 5:44 PM PDT   0 recs

My guess?

He’s twelve.

by sammy on Apr 28, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess?

He’s detecto.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 28, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess?

He’s Jeff

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 28, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"detecto"

Is that a reference I should be getting? I assume you don’t mean the scale manufacturers…

by sammy on Apr 28, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

*vision.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 28, 2008 6:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I take it back. He has to be legit.

If he was a troll, there’s no way he would’ve attempted to delete the fanpost after the fact. Congrats dude, you’re just that dumb.

by redwolf75 on Apr 28, 2008 5:57 PM PDT   0 recs

and why?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 28, 2008 6:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In Georgia Rule, Jane Fonda was able to tell Lindsey Lohan not to swear based on the sole

principle that it was her house. Since baseball=Georgia Rule, those at home make the rules

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 6:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 28, 2008 6:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whats worse?

you even saw this movie
or that you compared a Lindsay Lohan movie to baseball

by WCLittleGiant on Apr 28, 2008 6:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What's worse is that yesterday

he made a comparison to The Devil Wears Prada.

I anxiously await the comparison of the M’s to Rent.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 28, 2008 8:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OK I'm re-reading this thread right now

and it just might be funnier the second time around when the phrase “Show me where in the rulebook…” comes up

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2008 1:24 PM PDT   0 recs

You know, he did have a point.

That bit in the rules that says “It is not mandatory that a club designate a hitter for the pitcher, but failure to do so prior to the game precludes the use of a Designated Hitter for that game.” is a tad ambiguous. It probably should be been written “precludes the use by that club of a Designated Hitter for that game.”

by Llewdor on Apr 29, 2008 1:56 PM PDT   0 recs

nooooooooooooooo

we finally got the lid back on this can of worms yesterday. Maybe it should be left on.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2008 2:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Truth be told

it wasn’t so much that the lid got put back on the can as the can imploded and disappeared in the aether

by ningwers on Apr 29, 2008 3:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They might see a loophole, but there's no way they would get an umpire to let them do it

So it’s pretty irrelevant. Having just now read about half the thread (I had to stop reading because I couldn’t stop laughing), I think it would be fair to say that he would have had a point if he was saying that the rule was a bit ambiguous…but the point he actually stated was that this was an obvious strategic weapon that teams should be scorned for passing up. So he really didn’t have a point.

by ubelmann on Apr 29, 2008 2:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

O.K. I'll take a shot

I know this is not exactly the point he was arguing but perhaps there is a situation where it would behoove a team to use their pitcher as a DH. And by DH I mean to say let their pitcher hit – AL clubs need only apply.

Say for instance, you had a team with a really crappy DH. Unlikely in this day and age to be sure, but go with me on this for a sec. Further, suppose this team had playing for them the likes of a Carlos Zambrano, Mike Hampton, or say a Rich Ankeil (who throw could strikes) or a even guy like Brooks Keishnik who was often used a super pinch hitter in Milwauke. Would not that pitcher be a better option at the plate then said crappy DH ?

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Apr 29, 2008 6:29 PM PDT   0 recs

That's not what he was saying at all though

He was talking about taking your own team’s DH out of the game because doing so would force the other team to take their DH out as well, and that’s not how it works. Basically he was saying that the home team can decide whether or not the DH rule applies, like say Seattle were playing the Red Sox at home and they realized that the Sox’s DH is much better than our own, he was saying they should just up and decide to have the National League rules apply for the day and both teams would have to bat their pitchers, negating the Red Sox advantage. That only works if you can completely ignore the rules of the American League. Ad vice versa, he was advocating teams like the Rockies up and deciding to play with AL rules on any given day, it was stupid.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2008 6:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I got that

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Apr 30, 2008 12:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rich Ankiel (who throw could strikes)

Ankiel could throw strikes… before the playoffs started anyway.

by JI on Apr 29, 2008 8:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good Strikes Throw He.

In the Zone They Are.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Apr 29, 2008 11:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also, the DH rule requires that your DH have at least one plate appearance

to prevent you from making some starting pitcher your DH and pinch-hitting for him each time through based on the situation, but if an AL team chose not to use the DH they caould avoid this rule. Sure, they’d have to change pitchers every time they pinch-hit for one, but on those days when you’re making an emergency bullpen start, you’d think AL managers would try it.

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If you're not trying to game the system

you’re not trying hard enough.

I used to work in Canadian politics, and under the rules at the time a donor would receive a $75 tax reduction from the government if he made a $100 donation to a political party.

So, I told the party they should do the following.

1. Give donor $50.
2. Ask donor for $100 donation.
3. Tell donor to claim $75 tax benefit.

The net result would be +$50 for the party, and +25 for the donor, with all of the loss absorbed by the government. It was a huge loophope in the system, but it only worked for small donations.

The party declined; they feared it would look really bad if such a ploy was ever leaked to the press. They were probably right.

But, two years later, it was made public that another federal political party had been doing exactly the same thing (same dollar amounts and everything), and they’d been doing it for years, effectively creating government funding for themselves by gaming the tax code. I was impressed.

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Punto?????

Sure, he didn’t understand the rule about DH (or the tricky technical concept of “rules” in general), but what the hell was the part about Punto? Does anyone have any idea what that was supposed to be about?

by zorak on Apr 30, 2008 11:00 AM PDT   0 recs

If you're looking for a logical explanation to what happened in that thread

the answer is “at one point, we were asked to prove that the home team cannot arbitrarily change the rules to their liking.”

In short, none of it makes any sense, but to answer your question, he wanted to find a way to get both Nick Punto and David Ortiz out of their respective lineups. Unfortunately, his solution was to randomly change the rules of baseball at will.

by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2008 11:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That part actually made sense to me.

The part that confused me was when he tried to justify it by saying he’d play his pitcher at 3B.

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 12:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I probably shouldn't try to think this through, but

Punto isn’t a DH. And he isn’t very good.

Am I wrong about one of these?

and yeah, that pitcher at 3B part was where the thing turned completely surreal for me.

by zorak on Apr 30, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, right.

Punto has to be a DH for any of that to make sense.

I Jeff hates pho?

by Llewdor on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think his argument was that

the Twinkies could put their DH at third at the expense of defense and Puntos bat. The bat the Red Sox would have to pull to put Ortiz on the field would be greater than that of Punto

So whoever the Red Sox bench with no DH > Punto, therefore the Twins win

It’s still stupid

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 30, 2008 3:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And it still doesn't make sense

even when you try to explain it rationally

by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you!

You have a remarkable ability to get inside the mind of a lunatic. Have you considered a career as a criminal profiler?

by zorak on Apr 30, 2008 3:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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