George Sherrill is not a very good closer
by weebs on Apr 28, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
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PrintIt's just fact. I think we get caught up in how much we miss him in his lefty specialist role, but outside of dominating Seattle, he's been awful. Just blew a save against the White Sox and has been really roughed up by the Yankees and Toronto as well. I wish the best for George, but his current situation is going to hurt his career at least somewhat and future value I'm afraid.
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I don't think I care.
It’s still a bad trade, he’s still awesome.
...and now I'm here
wow
Daniel Cabrera had 7 BB and 2 K in the game. Someone is garbage…I don’t think it’s Sherrill :)
FREE JEREMY REED!!
Wow...
Um, the blowup in NY was weather-related. It was pouring down rain and things just weren’t right. He’ll have games like that, sure.
Haven’t heard what happened today, yet, but he surrendered a HR to Uribe. That happens. He wasn’t going to be perfect.
He always starts off the season a little rough. I’m not worried at all. He’ll be fine. This was the first save he’s blown all season. I expected it to happen at some point.
He’s not Putz or Papelbon, but, well, JJ hasn’t been Putz, either lately. He still deserves the shot he’s been given and things will sort themselves out fine, too. Besides—he’s one of those types of pitchers that fools umpires all the time. He’s only now starting to get some of the borderline calls. Having to throw 4-5 strikes to get a strikeout can really wear someone out, too.
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I was waiting for you to show up.
Thanks for heeding the call.
...and now I'm here
It's a curse.
Whoever is the closer for the Orioles sucks. You could put some of the greatest relievers in history-Gossage, Fingers, Eckersley-out there and they would suck too.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
This was unwarranted.
There was nothing wrong with his comment.
...and now I'm here
I agree and I'm sorry
But I disagree that all O’s closers suck
by WCLittleGiant on Apr 28, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I also disagree
It is common knowledge that saying all O’s suck (not just closers). There may be a few exceptions to the rule but in general it will serve you well.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 29, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a common mistake on LL.
Why is that? And is that considered a grammar mistake or a spelling mistake?
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I'm inclined to say grammar
and I think it’s a common mistake everywhere.
Doesn’t make it less funny, though.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 28, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's grammar.
I blame English more for just being fucked up, though.
by Liebkartoffel on Apr 28, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Would of, should of, could of.
I don’t think anything hurts me more.
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Misusing "literally" really pisses me off:
“Boy, the M’s literally slapped us around today!”
as wells as not being able to tell the difference between a subject and a fucking object:
“Thanks for taking Billy and I to see Felix Pitch.”
by Liebkartoffel on Apr 28, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
When is it appropriate to use ironical instead of ironic?
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not even good at remembering when it's appropriate to use ironic
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 28, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Only when quoting Alannis Morissette
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I continue to insist that was a brilliantly written song.
It was all about irony, but it kept defining irony incorrectly. That is hugely ironic.
It’s like meta-irony.
Irony is when something occurs that you wouldn't expect to occur.
So wouldn’t it be ironic if you woke up one morning and everyone was 10 feet tall and orange? But that doesn’t seem like how it’s normally used
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that's right.
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No, it would be ironic if you expected everything to be 2 feet tall and blue and that happened
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 28, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is it different if I expect everything to be 2 feet tall and blue instead of 5-6 feet tall and human colored
by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 28, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever, something different.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 28, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, it would be more accurate
If you had taken measures specifically to avoid having everyone be 10 feet tall and orange.
Or maybe I fail irony.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 28, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be ironic if you were racist against orange men,
and did not have the ability to look up.
Or if you had always wanted to be a 10 foot tall orange man, then refused to eat the radioactive carrot soup on radioactive carrot soup eating day.
...and now I'm here
In a broad sense, yes,
but irony generally plays upon predefined and routinized social and linguistic conventions. If I walk into a bar, pick up a glass, start cleaning it, and proceed to ask the bartender for his life story, that’s ironic.
by Liebkartoffel on Apr 28, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Irony is a statement that contradicts the context
For example, talking about how you watch your diet… while eating a bacon cheeseburger.
They both mean just about the same thing.
It’s a better bet to just stick with ironic, though.
by Liebkartoffel on Apr 28, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Many of the words we currently use that end in ical had the as added to them
by Shakespeare to make his meter. Tyrannical used to be just tyrannic. Diabolical used to be always just diabolic. Ironical is the same construction; there’s no need for those last two letters.
I think you mean Iambical
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Ray posted FIPs of 4.90 and 4.07.
J.J., in his two years as closer so far, posted FIPs of 1.78 and 2.63. Chris Ray was not good. B.J. Ryan was the closer for one year, although he was pretty good.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
by Coach Owens on Apr 28, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
"his current situation is going to hurt his career at least somewhat and future value I'm afraid."
Really? A bad closer will always make more than a good LOOGY. By a ton. He could blow half his saves, but in baseball today, if your business card says “closer,” you’re going to get some money.
One more thing...
Park factors=important here.
Chicago’s where they’re playing.
The HR would’ve been an out, or at VERY WORST off the wall in Safeco or a few other parks.
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Not even close.
Did you see that homer? It was at least 15 rows deep in left field. That thing was out in any ballpark, by a a significant amount. It wasn’t even close to borderline.
Yeah, that wasn't the park.
That was a horrible hanging slider.
It happens…
GS52 still has more saves than Putz.
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by PositivePaul on Apr 29, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Putz was on the DL for 20 days.
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Strike%, StS%, Cntc% rates all considerably worse
Sherrill’s not that great of a pitcher when he has to face so many righties.
Unless they're (not there or their) Mariners?
I wonder how he would’ve fared without the benefit of facing the Mariners 5 times.
GS52 as closer
is fine. Any sidearmer will get exposed a bit facing opposite handed hitters. He’s just facing the learning curve now that he HAS to face them, rather than being spotted against LHBs like he was with Seattle.
He’ll develop his changeup and location, because he won’t have a choice.
Glad someone else sees this...
I’m almost as biased as elsid. Almost. But the fact that he’s finally getting regular time against RH batters, is great—he’ll make the necessary adjustments.
More IPs/BFPs = more experience. He’s got the talent and the arsenal, he just needs a little more experience. As he progresses in the season, he’ll be fine vs. RH hitters.
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by PositivePaul on Apr 29, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Or he won't develop his changeup and location and he'll struggle
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 29, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe he'll lose his command
And get sent down to AA like his replacement in Seattle.
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by PositivePaul on Apr 29, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Sherrill just as much as the next guy
but more exposure to right-handed hitters is not a good thing. While I want him to succeed, I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggled.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 29, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll struggle, sure.
I concede that he’s not the über-ace that Putz and Papelbon are. But while his splits vs. RH hitters are noticeable, he’s not terrible against them. He has rough ABs against them, sure, but the more he faces them, the more polished his stuff gets against them.
It’s sorta like Helton’s home/away splits. No, he didn’t put numbers away from Coors like he did at home. But his road splits were still pretty impressive. Unlike, say, Michael Young…
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by PositivePaul on Apr 29, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He's finally getting the chance to prove he can or can't
I know you have your legitimate doubts, but we’ll see.
George Sherrill>>>Tampa Bay Rays
Pitched around Upton and got the save tonight.
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I like how much this pissed you off.
When the thread first popped up I thought “where is Paul?”
...and now I'm here
Yup.
And also—Baltimore >>> Rays.
First PLACE bitches!
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by PositivePaul on Apr 29, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Until they try to violate the laws of spacetime
and lose 35 games in September. It’s like they try to do that every year.
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