11-11
9:03pm, Jeff (to Matthew): We're so losing this game.
9:04pm, Matthew (to Jeff): Only question is will it be a stomach punch loss or a predictable see it a mile away loss?
9:06pm, Jeff (to Matthew): We'll know that answer when we see whether Mac goes to RRS after Mora.
9:08pm, McLaren (to Green): Good job kid, now it’s time for the lefty.
9:09pm, Jeff (to Matthew): Stomach punch.
9:11pm, Markakis (to RRS): owned
9:12pm, Jeff (to Matthew): That was quicker than I expected.
9:12pm, Matthew (to Jeff): Whores. What a stupid game to lose.
Biggest Contribution: Raul Ibanez, +25.8%
Biggest Suckfest: RRS, -23.1%
Most Important AB: Ibanez single, +13.4%
Most Important Pitch: Markakis homer, -27.6%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -18.8%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -31.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
While each is unpleasant, the stomach punch can come in a few different varieties. The first – the clothesline stomach punch – is when you’re going full speed ahead and don’t see the fist going full speed in the opposite direction, applying maximum force to your gut and sending you hurtling backwards, gasping for air. The second – the spontaneous stomach punch - is when you’re just kind of sitting around, minding your own business, when suddenly out of nowhere some dude gets up and punishes your diaphragm. The third – the downtrodden stomach punch – is when you’re already hurting, possibly from a previous stomach punch, but someone keeps punching you in the stomach anyway just to rub it in. And the fourth – the indifferent stomach punch – is when you’re bored, and someone punches you in the stomach, and while it really hurts a part of you is thankful that at least the pain takes your mind off how bored you are.
This game felt a lot like #4. I can cheer for the Mariners as hard as I want, but at the end of the day, if it’s an April game against the Orioles and the offense has fallen asleep, it’s difficult for me to keep myself anything more than mildly interested. I just can’t pretend to care about something more than I actually do. I suppose I could talk to Rick Rizzs about that, but in the meantime, the highs and lows simply won’t have the same kinds of amplitudes that they would in a game against the Angels or Red Sox. So when Markakis sent that bomb to right, my unhappy reaction was far more subdued than many of my other unhappy reactions have been in the past. As stomach punches go, I guess that means I got off easy.
The game did start off fairly promising. Carlos Silva was celebrating the 29th anniversary of his birth and the 1st anniversary of his age exceeding his percent body fat, so as a thoughtful homage home plate umpire Brian Runge gave Silva the gift of an appropriately wide strike zone. Silva took advantage in the first by striking out Brian Roberts looking with a fastball outside off the plate, then striking out Nick Markakis looking with a fastball inside off the plate. Markakis took exception to the called third strike and the
After the third out Cabrera took the hill and promptly made use of the huge strike zone by falling behind Ichiro 2-0. The next pitch caught too much of the plate, and Ichiro smacked a line drive single into right field to get things started. What happened next is the stuff that Mike Scioscia probably writes in his little pink diary about. In a span of five pitches, Ichiro stole second, advanced to third on a Lopez grounder, and scored on an Ibanez sac fly. Tom Emanski himself would’ve been blown away. Generally speaking you’d like a little more than the basic fundamentals from the 1-2-3 guys in your batting order, but given my expectations for this offense I was happy enough to take the run and walk away smiling.
Down 0-2 in the count, the swing Lopez took to ground that pitch to second was clearly the kind of swing intended exclusively to move Ichiro over and nothing more. I only bring this up because I don’t think McLaren could possibly be more pleased with the way Lopez has turned into the kind of #2 hitter the team’s always wanted. Not only has he been hitting behind the baserunner, but he also has nine combined sacrifice bunts and flies, putting him on a 66 SH+SF pace. The single-season leader in the modern era is 1990 Jay
Anyway, to the second we went, at which point Dave Valle informed us that Silva “isn’t afraid to throw strikes.” Not to pick on Valle again, but it seems to me that not having a fear of throwing strikes would kind of be a necessary prerequisite of being a pitcher. As far as positive attributes are concerned, I think that’s setting the bar a little low. Pitchers who’re afraid of throwing strikes stop being pitchers. It’s not like guys make it to the Major Leagues despite a crippling affliction of zoneophobia. If you’re a pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, it’ll be Little League, and you’ll be pitching your first game, and you’ll keep walking everyone, and your coach will say “throw strikes!” and you’ll say “it’s scary!” and your coach will say “play right field!” and you’ll play right field and never pitch again. Complimenting Carlos Silva for the courage he displays in throwing strikes is like praising someone’s garden for being really good at photosynthesis.
Powered by a big zone and bad hitters, each pitcher got into a groove that actually kind of lasted for as long as they stayed in the game. After Ichiro’s leadoff single, Cabrera retired the next nine batters he faced, and Silva only allowed two baserunners through the first four innings. The Mariners threatened to blow the game open in the bottom of the fourth when they loaded the bases with none out courtesy of two line drives and a bloop into no-man’s land, but all they could manage was an RBI groundout, as none of Vidro, Sexson, or Johjima could get the ball out of the infield. I’ll forgive Vidro because he can’t help being bad, and I’ll forgive Sexson because he had a huge series in LAnaheim, but Johjima’s really having some lousy at bats, and here he got himself behind 0-2 by fouling off two fastballs out of the zone. Here’s a guy who needs a home run in the worst way. Lopez, by the way, went his 20th consecutive at bat without swinging at the first pitch.
You could kind of tell at the time that, since the Mariners had squandered a big opportunity, the Orioles were going to take some measures to get back in the game. And they certainly tried in the fifth when they got their first two men on and Ramon Hernandez lifted a fly ball over the head of Raul Ibanez, but because no one was sure whether the ball would be caught (sidenote: ha!) everyone froze, and when Aubrey Huff ran through a stop sign to try and score from second, he was dead meat on the relay from Betancourt. Instead of at most tying the game and at least loading the bases with none out, the Orioles went to great lengths to run themselves out of the inning, and six pitches later the unthinkably pathetic Luis Hernandez bounced into a 4-6-3 double play to drive a final stake into the heart of the threat’s shivering, hobbled body.
In the bottom half Jose Lopez responded to
The O’s finally broke through in the sixth and had the game tied within 11 pitches. With a man on first, Melvin Mora drove a low fastball into the right-center gap beyond the outstretched glove of Willie Ballgame for an RBI triple. As much as I like to pick on our corner defense in the outfield, I’m pretty sure this one was legit. Maybe Willie could’ve done a better job of playing the ball once it bounced, but that ball probably drops against nearly every right fielder in the league, so whatever. Mora scored from third on the ensuing groundout by Markakis. In a flash the lead had evaporated, and with the way Daniel Cabrera was exerting control over the Mariner offense, this game suddenly felt eminently loseable. A nine-pitch 1-2-3 bottom half certainly didn’t do anything to quell our concerns.
Silva started the seventh looking uneasy, and after a five-pitch leadoff walk to Aubrey Huff, everyone from Rick Griffin to Brian Runge gathered around the mound. Griffin expressed disgust at how fat Silva had gotten and averted his eyes, but in the interest of furthering things along without getting bogged down in a swamp of criticism and insults, McLaren changed the subject by asking Silva how he was feeling and then taking him out of the game. My first worry was that Silva had hurt his shoulder, since the fastballs he’d thrown to Huff were 87-88 instead of his usual 90-92, but instead of going to the trainer’s room, Silva stayed in the dugout and occasionally massaged his leg, assuaging my concern that he was seriously injured. Sean Green came in and took care of the inning by striking out two righties and struggling to find the zone against two lefties, a relief appearance you can pretty much set your watch to.
More inept Mariner offense took us to the eighth, where Sean Green retired the first guy he saw (righty) before giving way to RRS to face Baltimore’s left/right/left/left 4-7. And with his first pitch, RRS might as well have slapped his picture right back onto those missing posters, because his thigh-high fastball over the inner half to Markakis got absolutely blasted. He recovered nicely to get out of the inning, upping his rhythm as if trying to make people forget the home run had ever happened, but as the teams switched sides I think every Mariner fan on the planet had his mouth open as if the fly ball were only just then clearing the fence. The whole thing happened so fast that it took a few minutes to work out exactly what it meant for our chances. Slowly it began to set in. This was bad. So was the Mariners going 1-2-3 again in the bottom half. 11 in a row set down by Cabrera, who had clearly taken complete control. This was beginning to feel like certain doom.
Jose Lopez took his 22nd consecutive first pitch.
The top of the ninth brought us the Mariner highlight of the night. With one down and none on, Brandon Morrow came out of the bullpen in relief of RRS and had what I believe was the greatest Major League appearance of his career. He made Adam Jones look silly with two heaters and a dynamite changeup, and then against Ramon Hernandez he quickly got ahead 0-2 with two breaking balls before mixing it up a little bit and eventually getting him to ground out weakly on a low change that had Hernandez lunging. Ten pitches, nine strikes, five solid offspeed pitches, and a fastball that touched 98. The Brandon Morrow we saw tonight was as unhittable as he’s ever looked. It’s a lot easier for a reliever to start pitching at a higher level than it is for a starter to do the same, and if what we saw tonight is any indication of what Morrow’s going to look like going forward, then he’s got a shot at being one of the best setup men in baseball. We know the stuff is real. If the control is real too, then look out. He just looked spectacular.
Unfortunately that’s where the highlights ended. Sherrill came in and allowed a leadoff single to Ibanez of all people to give us some hope, but Beltre hit a ball on the screws right into Jay Payton’s glove, and then Vidro and Sexson had a pair of awful at bats to close things out and give us our fifth loss to
Jarrod Washburn takes the hill tomorzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Haha
I got Adam Jones to acknowledge my existence by repeatedly yelling “Adam Jones! If the Mariners properly appreciated outfield defense the Mariners would not have traded you!”
That’s never happened. I was pretty excited
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by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 24, 2008 12:41 AM PDT 0 recs
I must say, I have never seen so much topspin on a ball that Beltre hit in the 9th.
That was on homerun trajectory until it took a nosedive somewhere in between the edge of the outfield grass and Jay Payton.
by Wilder. on Apr 24, 2008 1:06 AM PDT 0 recs
It looked good off the bat
After watching the replay it looked like he got on top of it just a little bit. That and hitting to left in Safeco sucks.
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by cougfan on
Apr 24, 2008 1:14 AM PDT
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Its my fault
I said game over and got up to get a beer as soon as I he made contact.
by hcoguy on
Apr 24, 2008 2:04 AM PDT
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Ironically, I did the exact same thing
and then sucked really badly playing COD4 with you
by seattlebruin on
Apr 24, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
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For a second I was going to call shenanigans.
I thought you two were at the game, and I was all like “they don’t serve beer in the 9th”. Then I saw the COD4 reference and figured out you must have been at home.
I like midgets more than I should.
by Thingray on
Apr 24, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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Also, Morrow's stuff was siiiiiiiiick.
His best pitch was the second pitch to Ramon Hernandez (although the wicked change-up to Adam Jones was spectacular as well). The high-inside curveball had both Hernandez and the umpire fooled. Morrow is displaying some amazing control with everything.
This is the sequence Morrow needs to follow:
1. Tight curveball on the outside corner.
2. Fastball on the inside corner.
3. Change-up down low in the middle of the plate.
Nobody is touching him, even if they know what is coming. I hope he can become a starter someday, but if not, he is going to be a dominant setup/closer for a long, long time.
by Wilder. on Apr 24, 2008 1:19 AM PDT 0 recs
Vidro needs to go
That’s step #1 in fixing this offense, and it should be obvious even to Bavasi now that he’s not cutting it as a DH. As a pinch hitter against lefties, though, he would be acceptable..
I’m still reserving judgement on Wilkerson, Kenji, and Richie for now, but Vidro is obviously finished.
by OlSalty on Apr 24, 2008 1:22 AM PDT 0 recs
Couldn't agree more.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
by ralphie81 on
Apr 24, 2008 2:36 AM PDT
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Why is Vidro Finished
but Kenji and Wilkerson are not? All 3 are playing horrendously offensively.
I’ll agree its easier to replace Vidro at DH with someone like Clement or a FA signing, though its just as easy to boot Kenji to the bench and play Clement at C, Wilkerson we’re kinda stuck with until Wlad gets healthy.
But I don’t necessarily see anything that points to Vidro being more done then Wilkerson and Kenji, other then he’s disliked more.
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by MfaninAlaska on
Apr 24, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
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Well
Don’t get me wrong, Wilkerson and Kenji could be washed up, they sure haven’t looked very good at the plate so far this year. But they have both had a relatively small sample size of suckage, with less than a month of crappy performance so far it could be that they’re both just in a slump and will at some point bounce back.
As a DH, Vidro hasn’t been cutting it for a long time, definitely long enough to determine that he’s got nothing left in the tank. So he gets a much shorter leash for starting poorly, and he is playing the position that is easiest for us to upgrade in a huge way.
by OlSalty on
Apr 25, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
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Why does this look like Stephen Colbert to me?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
by Phildopip on
Apr 24, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
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Offense.
Five of the last seven starting pitchers for the opposing team have made it to the 8th inning (Blanton, Saunders, Santana, Guthrie, Cabrera), with four of those five actually completing the inning (Guthrie missed it by one out).
You can start making the pitchers work any time now, guys.
by ThundaPC on Apr 24, 2008 2:09 AM PDT 0 recs
they can't sit there and take strikes all day
last night wasn’t good, but for sure Santana was dealing in the zone, and anyways, the Ms DID make him work.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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1-5 vs. Baltimore this year. Yuck.
Oh, and SBN really shit the bed yesterday. I have no idea what time they got the site back up and running, but it seemed like forfuckingEVER. I remember it going down near 4pm, and it was still down when I checked it at about 8:30.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
by Phildopip on Apr 24, 2008 7:43 AM PDT 0 recs
Major RAM failure
not yet completely out of the woods.
by Jeff on
Apr 24, 2008 8:04 AM PDT
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I will say that things seem a bit faster-loading this morning
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Apr 24, 2008 8:14 AM PDT
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Ah, okay.
I really bought there “routine maintenance” page they put up. If it’s a failure of some sort that’s a little better because it wasn’t planned.
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by Phildopip on
Apr 24, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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Yeah I don't know why that "scheduled downtime" message went up
by Jeff on
Apr 24, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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I was actually looking for this image, but couldn't find it.
Well done.
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by Phildopip on
Apr 24, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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I saw the Fox station
in Eugene use that image once. Somebody in that control room got fired.
by Pet Rock on
Apr 24, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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I hate that message.
It lasted longer than one hot dog and had more seventh inning stretches than a Padres-Rockies game.
by ThundaPC on
Apr 24, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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further evidence how much this offense blows:
my thoughts forward to the ‘08 offseason, my current ideal plan looks something like:
-Offer arb to Kenji and Ibanez then wave goodbye and collect draft picks
-Cut ties with Sexson (arb depends on just how good his 08 season ends up could net another comp pick here)
-Haha, later Brad
-Haha, later Willie
-Haha, later Vidro (use some sort of DH replacement to ensure no vesting)
Net Salary Cut: 37M
-Tex for 1B (proj. cost: 17M)
-Griffey for DH (proj. cost: 8M)
-Clement for C
-Wlad for RF
-_ for LF [either a moderate LH bat with good glove (J. Jones?) or, since you have ~12M left, blow your wad on a good bat. Or sign Bonds!]
In other words, in my dream scenario for 2009’s team, we don’t even need to touch the pitching (though I wouldn’t mind casting off Washburn/Batista in trades if we have the chance), but we’d turn over 5 lineup spots.
by Matthew on Apr 24, 2008 8:27 AM PDT 0 recs
We all die a little on the inside when Sexson is re-signed to a 3/39 contract.
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by Phildopip on
Apr 24, 2008 8:55 AM PDT
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pay him more to keep it from happening?
serious, the FA class this winter is barren for our needs and Tex:2008 :: Beltre:2004. it’s a match made in heaven.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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Oh yeah
but you can’t guarantee that has interest in playing here.
by JI on
Apr 24, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
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I know
but you can blow the other offers out of the water. In other words, I would do everything humanly possible to secure his services.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 5:56 PM PDT
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Coco Crisp for left field?
Possibly could trade little value for him since I think the red sox are looking to get rid of him.
by Fin on
Apr 24, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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He would be excellent
but I’d be wary about trading away any more of our assets.
Though if they were willing to do a Crisp+Pros for Johjima deal later this summer (Varitek is a FA after this year), that would dbe intriguing.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 3:41 PM PDT
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Yeah, but he might be cheaper to re-sign
plus the whole Daisuke and Hideki thing. Just tossing it out there, I don’t consider it a well-thought-out idea.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:22 PM PDT
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Burrell for RF, Wlad for LF. Trade Washburn.
Otherwise yes.
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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I looked at Burrell
I’m saying no way.
RH, huge pull hitter
Will be an old 32 at the start of his contract
he’s going to get 4+ years
is bad defensively
is a career NL hitter
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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3/45 wouldn't be bad, he's having his best year's now, yeah he's a huge pull hitter...
But I really doubt he’d do worse than .245/.385/.470 and that would be a huge boost. Even if he slips to 25 HR and 90 BB, that’s still remarkably good.
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:03 PM PDT
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It's not enough to offset his defensive deficiencies and the aging concerns.
He might put up .245/.380/.470 his first year, but years 2 and beyond?
And even that’s only an 850 OPS. You’re basically talking about Raul Ibanez, a few years younger, but at 3x the cost.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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.850 OPS in Safeco? That's pretty valuable. And with the OBP difference (For the better) I still think it's worth it.
I can see Burrell lasting till he’s 34, but then I don’t know how comprable players have done.
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
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It's valuable if it didn't come with his glove.
Again, Raul Ibanez has been a .850 OPS bat the last two years.
Also, no way Burrell only gets 3/45.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
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So would you be OK with bringing Burrell in to DH?
Or would you rather have Raul
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Apr 24, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
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I'd rather have Griffey at DH
He’d cost way less, way less years and would likely offer similar production and obviously the PR value would be off the charts.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:17 PM PDT
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True, I'd rather have Griffey too
being LH doesn’t hurt either. I was just kind of throwing it out there as a hypothetical, because like you said , there’s no way Burrell only gets 3/45
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Apr 24, 2008 4:18 PM PDT
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You don't think so? Like Matthew said, Burrell's going to be 32 next year.
Teams seem to be a little bit better at not spending far out the ass these days, and Burrell is old with old player skills. I’m not sure he could do better than 15 per
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:20 PM PDT
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I think he would ask for a longer deal is the thing
and even at $15/per I wouldn’t be excited about giving him a 4-5 year deal
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Apr 24, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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I think he'll have to sacrifice some annual salary if he goes to a 4/5 year deal.
But seriously, front offices are getting better about not giving old people big money. He’ll probably get the Sexson deal if he goes 4 years, maybe 5 million more.
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:22 PM PDT
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So let's say this happens
lineup?
CF Ichiro
2B Lopez?
RF Griffey
3B Beltre
DH Ibanez? I don’t see any way Ibanez isn’t on the team next season. Hopefully he’ll be the DH
1B Burrell
C Clement/Johjima
LF Balentien
SS Betancourt
by seattlebruin on
Apr 24, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
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That Ibanez hasn't already been extended
is a decent enough sign that the org might let him walk. If they can get Griffey, there’s zero reason to bring him back both from our view and from the team’s view.
Also, ugh, not a fan of that lineup.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
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CF Ichiro
2B Lopez
1B Teixeira
RF Burrell
DH Griffey
3B Beltre
C Clement
LF Balentien
SS Betancourt
That’s my preferred lineup
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
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You are undershooting
4+/60+, is going to be much much closer than 3/45.
Also, Burrell’s comparables by age? scary.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:26 PM PDT
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Yikes
by seattlebruin on
Apr 24, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
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Burell is not a good fit here.
I like him, but unless he is stupidly cheap I have no interest.
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Apr 24, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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I'd prefer Griffey, and the M's org is for sure going to sign him.
I guess I feel if our offense is that improved we can weather some bad OF defense. Right now with a shitty OF Defense and shitty offense we can’t. Also, in RF he’s kind of hidden since RF is smaller in Safeco. Wlad in LF and Ichiro in CF gives us good range in 2/3 of the OF, so Ichiro can shade a bit more towards RF…truthfully Burrell’s #4 on my offseason priorities, but I still really like him as a potential Mariner.
1. Sign Teix 8/128
2. Griffey 2/16
3. Trade Washburn for anything
4. Sign Burrell 3/45
That’s a good offseason…
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 24, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
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Wlad doesn't have good range
he has okay range and again, Burrell’s not coming for 3/45.
by Matthew on
Apr 24, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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Not that it's terribly relevant, but who becomes #5
in that scenario? Dickey? Baek if by some miracle he’s still around? Feierabend?
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Apr 24, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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Dickey, Baek, RRS, Feier, Morrow, Rohrbaugh
Doesn’t really matter too much.
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