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Series Preview: Baltimore Orioles @ Seattle Mariners

Seattle: 10-10
Baltimore: 11-8

GAMES

Game 1: Felix Hernandez vs Jeremy Guthrie
Game 2: Carlos Silva vs Daniel Cabrera
Game 3: R.A. Dickey vs Adam Loewen*

Oh goodie, we get to see Daniel Cabrera this time around, paired up in a battle of opposites with Carlos Silva. Cabrera's control problems aren't any better but he's compensated by striking out fewer batters and allowing more homeruns. Wait, that's bad. Which is good for us. Cabrera enters the series with a FIP of 6.57.

Guthrie still isn't striking anyone out and is allowing way too many homeruns to be successful long term. So far though his defense is bailing him out as he stands with a 5.76 FIP.

Adam Loewen has walked more batters than he's struck out, and allowed way too many homeruns. Sound familiar? So will this part. He's been awful and has managed to look only terrible thanks to his defense. He enters the series with a 7.30 FIP.

Star-divide

Likely Starters:
C Ramon Hernandez
1 Kevin Millar
2 Brian Roberts^
3 Melvin Mora
S Luis Hernandez
L Luke Scott*
C Adam Jones
R Nick Markakis*
D Aubrey Huff*

Scott and Markakis are off to rousing starts, but the rest of the lineup is...well...only Kevin Millar has an OPS+ over 100 and it stands at 106. They draw an average number of walks, strike out an average number of times and see an average number of pitches per PA. What they do do, is steal. 2nd in the AL in successful steals it will be important for the Ms to keep an eye on Roberts and Markakis. And for the love of sanity, don't let Adam Jones beat us.

CONTEXT

There's a small chance we could see Bedard back for game three which would be a big boost to the club, but I wouldn't be counting on anything. However, we should be near to getting J.J. Putz back into the bullpen which is going to necessitate a roster move from the bullpen. The lefties are safe as is Sean Green so the candidates seem to be Morrow, Corcoran or Lowe assuming Dickey stays up until Bedard comes back and Baek isn't dealt off. Corcoran's been effective for McLaren so it might be more likely to see either Morrow or Lowe sent down. Given that it is the Mariners, I'd start preparing for Mark Lowe to get optioned back to Tacoma.

Is Richie Sexson back? On one hand, it's a very small sample size and there are still games where he looks like Beltre sans talent at the plate. On the other, we've rarely seen Sexson be actually successful at the start of the year. Though the first 20 games, Sexson's OPS while with the Mariners have been: .821, .693 and .606 with nine walks being the most he had drawn in that span. Sexson's OPS stands at a robust .875 with 14 walks drawn and one can only imagine that with some renewed spark, he might start getting pitched around more. Hopefully he maintains his newfound discipline even in the wake of recovering power.

Is Kenji Johjima finished? On one hand, Kenji's been a fast starter the previous two years with OPSs of .854 and .913 through his first 17 games in 2006 and 2007. He's at a paltry .512 right now and while the increased walk rate is nice, he's hacking away at anything near the zone seeing a career low 3.2 pitches per plate appearance. One the other, Johjima's line drive rate is consistent with his career figures at 18.9%, a perfectly respectable number and his groundball rate hasn't changed much suggesting his overall approach isn't much different. What is different is a spike in infield flys and a correspondingly low BABIP. Expect both of those to regress and Kenji to go back to being an mild asset with his bat while we give Clement a year more to gestate and feed on Triple-A pitching.

THIS SERIES BROUGHT TO YOU BY:

Lions Winter Ale
Granville Island Brewery. Kelowna, BC

Good luck finding this one. Granville Island doesn't export outside of British Columbia but man oh man, this one is worth the drive up north to get. I am referring in specific to the winter ale, but it could be said for many of their lines for Granville Island is certainly a brewery worthy of considering amongst any of America's west coast. It pours a ruby red and through taste and smell is very reminiscent of Newcastle Brown Ale, possibly even a touch better and with a smidgen more of a chocolate finish. I should mention that Newcastle [on tap] is one of my favorite beers. Pity their football team blows ass. Overall this instantly jumped up the ranks to settle in as one of my preferred beers and will certainly be a must get every time I head across the border.

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Well said.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kenji's LD% is 20.4??

Weird the things that stats tell you that the naked eye doesn’t

by seattlebruin on Apr 21, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just thinking that

exact same thing, because I don’t remember any line drives hardly at all from Kenji… unless they consider floaters over the infield that fall for hits to be linedrives.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 21, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I'd assume those are counted as line drives

but I don’t think its necessarily repeatable to be able to hit bloop liners over the IF to get to a ~league average LD%. Does seem like Kenji hasn’t really hit the ball hard this year though.

by seattlebruin on Apr 21, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

floaters usually aren't considered line drives

but it’s up to the discretion of the game charter.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

or, depending on the PBP data company,

they can be called “fliners.” Where these end up in the GB/LD/FB trichotomy, I don’t know, but I guess I’d assume FB.

by marc w on Apr 21, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh... floaters...

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 21, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

KJ walking
“while the increased walk rate is nice, he’s hacking away at anything near the zone seeing a career low 3.2 pitches per plate appearance”

So he’s walking more (min 4 p/pa) yet seeing fewer pitches, which implies that in his other ABs are far worse than 3.2 p/pa.

Gosh.

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by MarkE on Apr 21, 2008 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Team ERA is barely worse than league average

Defense and luck are aiding them a ton. And their offense hasn’t been bad.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

that would be thanks to us

if we didn’t blow two games they’d be 9-10, and if we’d beat the tar out of them as we fucking should have done they’d be 7-12 and we’d be at the top of the division. The fact that we’re at only .500 with our schedule is nothing short of pathetic.

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 21, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just checked their schedule so far.

Baltimore has been played pretty tough by Tampa Bay, they’ve split series with Toronto and the White Sox, and they were destroyed by Texas. But, they’re coming off a series victory over the Yankees.

I’ll describe them as erratic.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we've lost two of our key pitchers...

I’d say that with Bedard and Putz out as long as they have been—being at .500 is very respectable. Especially since we’re .500 vs. LAnaheim.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 21, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

you drink that filth?

I’m pretty sure its just carbonated ethanol with artificial beer flavor

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 21, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a false statement

Newcastle on tap is damn nice.
Still probably one of my favorites. Yeah, it’s not as complex as some of the great winter ales, but it’s so damn drinkable.

by marc w on Apr 21, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always find it odd that the Granville Island Brewery

isn’t on Granville Island. Maybe it used to be – who knows?

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Is that what happened in this case?

I would think that’s a fairly rare occurence.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

But worse, it wasn't originally an island, either.

In 1886, the area was dredged and filled to create more land for industrial uses, and two sandbars were inadvertantly converted to an island. This was named “Industrial Island”. However, the island sat directly below the Granville Street Bridge, and the name Granville Island was more widely used and eventually stuck.

Then, there was a plan to fill the entire inlet to create yet more land, but most of the industries on Granville Island relied on the ready supply of water that came from being on and island, so they lobbied to have only the area just south of the island filled, and this converted the island into a peninsula.

So, it was a man-made island, and then made made it not an island anymore.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

God Bless Man.

Where would Nature be without him?

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's nothing

Those whole man-made islands in Dubai … now that’s a definite sign of Man being a little to intelligent in the “how to do it” department….

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 21, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everything is crazy in Dubai

Too much money.

^Palm island under construction

by Graham MacAree on Apr 21, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA HA!

...phallic.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what's the outer ring?

A diaphragm?

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're serious, it's a seawall to protect the inner (main) island.

They’re also working on a set of islands that will look like a map of the earth from above.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's 3 or 4 different sets of those man made

Palm, the world and a couple others I can’t recall right now…. I’ve seen the making of them on the discovery channel or one of those other learning type channels.

For the world islands they’re having problems finding enough under water sand.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 21, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen the same shows.

It’s interesting how they dredge for the sand, but seems a little like they are raping the ocean floor.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I thought the same thing

wonder what the ecological studies were on doing something like that… . oh wait they probably didn’t do any….. there are 3 palm islands and the world islands in Dubai….

PS.. anyone else having problems replying … everything I click reply it asks me if I want to join… when I ok it it says I’m already a member of LL… this just started happening.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 21, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been having that problem

for the last hour or so.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's doing it to me too.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It did it for me once.

I just logged out and logged back in and haven’t had a problem since.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 21, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

the ocean floor is asking for it

going around all tarted up like some hussy

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 21, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you beat me to it asshole

but I’m still posting mine because I skipped over the “thewolfweb.com” image in my GIS.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here in Mariner land, we like to go for the most blatantly available

rather than the one that makes the most sense or is of the highest quality.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 21, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

hilarious.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure it does.

The entire northwest from about Spokane west is made of Microcontinents, roughly the size of Vancouver Island. As the North-American plate travels west ward, it picks these islands up. Imagine Carlos Silva colliding with Willie, which would create a super greasy, gritty, ground-baller who could steal bases.

by InSpokane on Apr 21, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adam Jones

At the risk of sounding like a bad Mariners fan, I’d really like to see Adam Jones do well in this series (and for the entire year).

I don’t feel like the M’s organization ever gave him a fair shake, and I’m excited for him to have the good career we are all expecting from him even if it’s not in a Mariners uniform.

by Jeff Nye on Apr 21, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Your mother would be ashamed of you.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Why can't you be more like your brother, The Science Guy" - Jeff Nye's mom

Am I right?

My mom wants me to shave and get a haircut. And move to Sequim. She’s 0-fer.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old people, apparently.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The weather is mild and very dry for western Washington

and a small ski resort is very close by. I’d get bored of the area pretty quickly, but it has its attractions.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 21, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question about beers

I recently started taking an interest in trying to find beer that I enjoy

(so far Guiness is meh, Sam Adams Spring Ale isn’t too bad)

I know there’s been tons of discussion on beer, but is there an easy way to find some of the threads on LL approved booze?

Is search still borked

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

borked?

gah hit post too soon!

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What kinds of beer do you like now?

You can’t have had only two beers…. what’s your favorite right now?

by marc w on Apr 21, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty certain

that I’ve only had 2 types of beer so far. I really haven’t done much drinking in my life.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, OK.

You should probably just try some stuff and see what tastes good to you. But like Jeff says, you’ve come to the right place – go to the beer thread and just…I don’t know, go nuts (in a responsible fashion that does not involve drunk driving).

by marc w on Apr 21, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But do not begin with IPA's or anything rough

start with wheats or pale ales or something and work your way up. Otherwise you’ll just blast yourself right out of beerdom forever.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 21, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

If you’re looking for something you can probably find at your local grocery store, I’d recommend Rogue, Alaskan Amber, or HW Pyramid, and Fat Tire is okay.

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or you can start like I did on the smooth smooth taste of Henry's Private Reserve.

Can’t get enough of that wonderful Henry’s.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've come so far.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fat Tire actually sounds like a good beer for that.

It’s pretty light, has a decent flavor, and can be consumed in great quantities. Though sounds like you might’ve had a bit much this last weekend.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still drink it on occasion.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't had that one.

I just know that the McMenamins’ Ruby Ale is fucking DISGUSTING.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you had the Ruby?

I understand liking fruity beers. I’ve had some that aren’t too bad, but the Ruby is especially bad.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

I’d stick with the stout and their darker ale whose name I forgot. Hammerhead?

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Their stout (Terminator) is quite good, too.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, those are the only two I've had

I think they came up in a thread here about a year ago which is when I first gave them a looksee and in that thread there was much lamenting about their ruby ale sucking ass.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me, but I didn't care for Henry's PR.

I really didn’t like the aftertaste. I liked Henry’s Blonde Ale some and I liked their Belgian Style Wheat, but the PR turned me off of Henry’s for a good while.

I haven’t heard many good things about Blue Boar, but I’m anxiously awaiting to see some more of their Summer Wheat Ale as the weather warms up. I’ve been really meaning to try that.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen Rogue

but I think I saw Alaskan and I know I saw plenty of HW Pyramid. I grabbed a chocolate stout by some company whose name I can’t recall, and I think after that I’ll try some Pyramid.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alaskan is pretty prevalent.

The Amber is excellent. I’m working on a 24 of Summer that I got at Costco at a good price.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

especially. It's a pretty comprehensive list

I’m moving to San Fran so I have to figure out the better places to drink beer.

by InSpokane on Apr 21, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ireland's 32

is a great bar. As is Murio’s Trophy Room, and the Owl Tree. But I have an affinity for dive-y bars, so if you want something more sophisticated, I can’t help you.

But Murio’s Trophy Room does have a whole bunch of Anton LaVey art on the walls, because he was a regular who paid his bar tab in art instead of money, so that’s something.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 21, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do.

None of them brew their own but they all have good stuff on tap.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 21, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm jealous that you're moving to San Francisco.

I love the Northwest, but there’s something about San Francisco that makes me fall in love with it every time I’m there.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I now this might sound silly

I love it there, but I’m pretty happy here in spo-town

by InSpokane on Apr 21, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sam Admas had a recall

something about glass shards in their bottles.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Apr 21, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick question

Guessing this has been explained in the past, but the asterisk next to Adam Loewen – does that just mean you aren’t sure who is starting? Is their rotation really not set yet? Just curious, because I was hoping to see Brian Burres pitch (met him last year here through my girlfriend). I know he started earlier in the year, but I couldn’t tell you for sure if he’s still in the rotation. I know he bounced back and forth a bit last year.

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 21, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh...
“I’m just waiting to see how I get received,” said Sherrill. “Usually, they’re pretty good about it - unless you choose to leave them. They get on [Alex Rodriguez] pretty good. It’s going to be good to see the city, the stadium and everything.”
- From the Oriole’s web site…

Yeah, like people will boo someone they probably don’t even know was a Mariner. I know I’m completely biased, but I still say GS52 is one of the most underrated and under-appreciated players in the game. I’ll still never forget having to point GS52 and Putz out to the reporter when they were down here in Oly for the Caravan (and the reporter was assigned to cover the event).

But, yeah, thanks to GS52 (and elsid, of course), I’m taking Joey to the game tomorrow. I cannot wait to see the look on his face when I tell him to bend his freakin’ brim!

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 21, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know about you,

but I’m bringing batteries.

Formerly Alaskan, until Alaska showed up at the SB Nation switch. Thanks for nothing, Alaska!

by The Alaskan on Apr 21, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The last time I was at a Mariners game, the fans around me didn't even know who Sherrill was

when he came into the game.

But then, these fans were calling on Putz in the 7th, and thought he should be able to pitch 3 innings every game.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. This is precisely what I'm saying...

I’ll wear my 52 Sherrill M’s jersey with pride tomorrow.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 21, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back when soldiers walked into battle, closers went three innings every game.

I’m sure that’s what they’re thinking of.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 21, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the thread.

But HOF worthy? Debatable. I doubt anyone will remember this, save for the occasional meme.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 21, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still not too late

not like it’s been sidebar’d

Barry Bonds died for your sins.

by JI on Apr 21, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say we go for a voting system

complete with secret ballots, articles on ESPN.com, and the blacklisting of articles suspected to have used PEDs

by seattlebruin on Apr 21, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That 100 lb. halberd thing really bothers me.

Throughout history, major conflicts have always been won by the side where the soldiers carried total gear (weapons and armour) weighing closer to 70 lb. While the sorts of medieval types who wielded halberds did carry way more than 70 lb. of gear (which is why the Mongols kicked their ass at the Battle of Wahlstatt), most of that was armour. While the halberd was too heavy to be much of a swinging weapon, it was used much like a long spear, and 100 lb. out at the end of a pole would be far too heavy for any human to wield effectively.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adam and George - Expulsion from Eden

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Apr 21, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not to nitpick but....

Jones is mirrored and in a Rainiers jersey. I like the idea though.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 21, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

And that AJ picture looks familiar…

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm planning on going myself tonight

I am gonna try and catch George when he’s in the bullpen and give him some applause/congrats. Hopefully he doesn’t get to appear in any save situations this series.

by jtopps on Apr 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet the Mariners hitters

beat up Adam Loewen in game three.

If all I'm remembered for is being a good basketball player, then I've done a bad job with the rest of my life. - Isiah Thomas

by JTDuck22 on Apr 21, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

They always do in MLB 2K8.

Loewen is so easy to hit in that I can’t believe it.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because it doesnt come out on the Wii?

Just because your mom only wants you playing Wii Checkers, does not mean that all other games are worthless.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. MLB 2K games suck.

MVP was good.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 21, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regardless of how much I enjoy 08 the show

The peak of baseball games died with MVP 2005

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 21, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't gotten Wifi on the PSP version

of the Show to work this year. I think its fuxxed.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll wait until they give it away for free again

I almost flunked my last set of classes because I spent all my time leading the 1995 M’s to the glory they should have had.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the sole reason I won't get into Baseball Mogul.

I just know I’ll get too addicted to it and it’ll ruin my life.

Hmm... Needs more Bonds.

by Double06 on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yesyesyesyes

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Apr 21, 2008 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your sense of what is good and what sucks, I feel really no one takes seriously.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the 2K games ARE pretty shitty.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 21, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

To clarify, EA fixed the flaws in Madden (most of them) despite getting exclusive liscence to the NFL

2K seemed to take having the only baseball game on the market for granted.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 21, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to get over the fact

that EA bought Bioware.

I’m calling it now. Mass Effect: The Street will be in stores Q1 2009.

by BrianL on Apr 21, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ice T and Shannon Sharpe as your soldiers.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least they have kept Tiger Woods Golf decent and havent came out with

Tiger Woods Golf: The Public Courses ‘08. Announcers Charles Barkeley and Stephen A. Smith.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

EA's been pretty frank about how badly they screwed up with Westwood

and Bullfrog (they still think Origin was sabotaged from within), so they might not screw up BioWare as much (or as quickly) as they have screwed up other developers in the past.

And either way, I like that Ray and Greg made a killing off the sale.

by Llewdor on Apr 21, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new patch really made the offline modes a lot better and with the promise

of fixing the online aspect of the game, I won’t say its great. All the problems people have with 2k8, only advanced controls in ranked games, the lag, the speed of the pitches, the Network Difficultie problems have all been addressed by 2k sports, and have said they are working on patches.

Not like it matters though. 2 weeks from tomorrow is GTA 4.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 weeks?

22 + 7 = 29… It ships on the 29th…

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could not be more excited for GTA IV.

btw, Christian, I finally stepped up to Xbox Live Gold, so when GTA IV comes out Scruffy, you and I need to do some multiplayer.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 21, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong.

The worst franchise ever is clearly Duke Nukem. How long have we been waiting, 3D Realms?!?

HOW FUCKING LONG!?

by BrianL on Apr 21, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Release Date is the same day Goonies 2 comes out.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goonies 2 the videogame?

Because that already came out.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The movie.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

they made Lost Boys 2, so maybe Corey will be ready to sign on for Goonies 2 next!

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 21, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a movie that should never have a sequel. It was just something rumored

for a long time. The forums for that movie were one of the first sites I ever bookmarked when I first found the internets.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 21, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Chinese Democracy will be the soundtrack to the game.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

GTE of the week:

"SEXSON WANTS TO TASTE THE MOTHERFUCKING CURB"

~Jordan of Boise

by Goose on Apr 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. That's the joke.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

GTE of the week:

"SEXSON WANTS TO TASTE THE MOTHERFUCKING CURB"

~Jordan of Boise

by Goose on Apr 21, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard that it's finished

...which makes me sad: Guns & Roses is terrible, and this saga is hilarious.

Barry Bonds died for your sins.

by JI on Apr 21, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that so often in the last 10 years

that I will believe it when I see it. But when I do see it? DR PEPPER BITCHES.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 21, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Guns n Roses weren't terrible

when all they had was Appetite For Destruction. That was and is a phenomenal record. I fear that every song on Chinese Democracy will be November Rain mixed with, oh god, I don’t know what. But it’ll be epically bad, I’m sure.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 21, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know, I liked Use Your Illusion I and II.

And November Rain was fantastic.

Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

GTE of the week:

"SEXSON WANTS TO TASTE THE MOTHERFUCKING CURB"

~Jordan of Boise

by Goose on Apr 21, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong

Guns & Roses is a terrible fucking band and Axl Rose is a horrible singer whenever he opens his mouth is sounds like someone is stepping on his balls.

Barry Bonds died for your sins.

by JI on Apr 21, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

argh

I bought tickets to see them in Sacramento LAST JANUARY and they cancelled to “finish up the album”

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Apr 21, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

is there a key somewhere explaining the stats Jeff likes to use here. There are a lot of acronyms and I only know what some of them mean (and I could have those wrong). I’m thinking maybe a post somewhere not just saying what they are but why Jeff (or others) consider them to be better indicators of succes.

any links?

thanks

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 21, 2008 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

the references sidebar on the left

are where most if not all of the stats mentioned are housed, but if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?
Expect both of those to regress and Kenji to go back to being an mild asset with his bat

Mild asset? He might not equal Clement’s potential, but Kenji is one of the best hitting catchers in baseball. Can you explain this, Matthew?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 21, 2008 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

He's not talking relative to position I don't think. A .750 OPS is a mild asset with the bat.

Regardless of whatever any other catcher does.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 21, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was considering position

I was just considering 2008 going forward, rather than 2006 or 2007, when yes, Johjima was one of the better (best is pretty strong) hitting catchers in the majors, roughly 10th best in both ‘06 and ‘07.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

was != is

I don’t expect him to match 2007 numbers.

by Matthew on Apr 21, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He -was- one of the better hitting catchers

Now he is not. He has aged another year and that regression needs to be factored in.

Catchers do not tend to have long careers and it wouldn’t be unprecedented if he completely tanked this season…..even though I personally don’t think he’ll be as bad as he has been so far.

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind

Catchers seem to be the halfbacks of football. Their expected lifetime isn’t as long as most other positions, which is why you saw guys like Piazza moving to 1B or DH later in their careers.

Kenji may be getting to the point where the physical wear and tear of being a catcher for so many years is starting to take its toll when he’s at the plate.

by BrianL on Apr 21, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

halfbacks of baseball, dangit.

I’m going to sleep and try this again in the morning.

by BrianL on Apr 21, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where the obvious lesson to be learned is

that amount of hits taken and career length are inversely proportional (duh)

by seattlebruin on Apr 22, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

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