Big Hurt Available
by brayden04 on Apr 20, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
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Toronto cut Frank Thomas today. Had he reached 376 PAs he would have triggered a $10 million option for 2009.
He has bad numbers through 60 ABs .167/.306/.333
Hey, he'd be more useful than Miguel Cairo.
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We should pick him up
There’s no reason not to! Toronto will eat his salary; We’ll get a right-handed power bat. If he doesn’t work out, well, we’ve got Richie Sexson.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
by manzell on Apr 20, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
eh
If Toronto benched him after only 60 at bats it has to make you wonder if he’s completely washed up.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sign him!
He’s started really slowly the last two years, and by using both him and Vidro at DH neither one of their options would vest (assuming we’d be taking the rest of the contract…not sure how that works)
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 20, 2008 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's supid to sign Frank Thomas when you could have Barry Bonds.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be realistic, though
This FO won’t sign Bonds.
They will sign Thomas.
by saltydog75 on Apr 20, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That being said
If we could release Vidro and sign Thomas, I wouldn’t have a problem. However, off the top of my head, Lofton > Thomas.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as a hitter.
If the M’s were gonna sign Lofton they would’ve done it already.
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 20, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
But Thomas can’t run, and Safeco is a bitch to hit in. Lofton would probably stay healthier, save a shit ton of runs on defense (Raul--> DH)- though I am incapable of crunching haven’t crunched the numbers yet. Plus, acquiring Kenny Lofton has shown to be a proven avenue to success, he seems to be on every playoff team.
But shit yeah, I’d take him over Vidro.
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by JI on Apr 20, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but it's all about what this team might actually do.
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 20, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely pick him up.
Pros:
- His batting eye is still there: 11BB to 13K this year
- He’s been unlucky: .159 BABIP
- Still has good power: .167 IsoP this year
- Cheap: would probably come here without much $$ for the opportunity to play full time
- Good hitter over his career in AL West parks (minus Safeco)
- Can still mash LHP (1.000+ OPS vs LHP last year)
Cons:
- Not very good in Safeco over his career
- Getting old, could be headed down a steep decline in performance
- Could block Clement (maybe not a bad thing)
by saltydog75 on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would blocking Clement not be a bad thing?
Regardless, I say sign him. Give Kenji till June 1 to hit, and if he’s not getting it done, flip him for a team in need of a catcher and let Clement take over the catching duty.
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 20, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BR1NG US GR1FF3Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2sluggers2teams1DH
We’ll take Bonds, you take Thomas, deal?
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 20, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahaha
ewwwww
no
We already staked our claim:
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks better in blue, and our dome perfectly hides him from the spotlight
You have that whole “is it a dome or is it an open air stadium” retractable roof BS going on. We even have a petting zoo.
Therefore us > you in Bonds’ metallic heart.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 20, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay is on the east coast
No one has ever heard of Seattle
The turf will be murder on his knees
He’s already wearing blue, and saving America in the photoshoppe.
Tampa looses, Bonds
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the shit happened to the end of that sentence
apparently that heat symbol nukes everything
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I guess they needed the DH spot for Rod Barajas.
by hcoguy on Apr 20, 2008 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
which is why I prefer Lofton (pipedream, yeah)
but I’d still take him over Vidro
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who doesn't?
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumb as it may seem, I hadn't realized that nobody had signed Lofton yet
I’d take either the Hurt or Lofton. Safeco is bad for Thomas, but I confess to a sentimental attachment to him.
I despise Bonds for the same reason I like Thomas. If the M’s actually signed him (not gonna happen, obviously), I’d just have to hold my nose and hold my tongue.
by esoteric on Apr 20, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of quality players sitting by the phone
Why in the hell is Kenny Lofton still unemployed? It’s not like his bat fell off a cliff or anything.
Think Red would forgive him? I’m sure most of us would.
by Gomez on Apr 20, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he wanted a starting job
and wasn’t guaranteed one.
That would be my guess because I read that he turned down offers from the Rays and Reds.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dropkick Wilkerson and give him one, I say
by Gomez on Apr 20, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% correct
Plus loften has that veteran grit that the club creams themselves over.
by Fin on Apr 20, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to dropkick Vidro.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No his fat ass will send me rocketing in the other direction.
It’s made of flubber.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may look like flubber
but it is in fact hotdog-power-reinforced-fatmuscle.
by Gomez on Apr 20, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think just about every team
has a AAA OF who is capable of what lofton can do if not more.
But yeah no reason not to pick up Frank. He’s not gonna be great but its better than what we’ve got (if we don’t have Bonds). If you look at his home runs from last year I’m pretty sure almost every single one of them would get out of Safeco Field. From Hit tracker, it says the shortest he hit last year was 370 ft.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 20, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Peter Gammons mentioned us as the #1 name to pick him up...so it won't happen
by SethGrandpa on Apr 20, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bavasi kicking the tires???
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
by PositivePaul on Apr 20, 2008 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I AM FOR ANYTHING THAT KILL VIDROS VESTING OPTION
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 20, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, no matter how much the M's love Vidro
I’m positive they realize that Vidro’s vesting option is stupid, which is probably why they have already been figuring out PC ways to cut down his AB’s. Granted they’ll probably try to resign him anyway when the season is over, just for less than the 9 mil.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 20, 2008 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I think Vidro was Hargrove’s guy and now they’re stuck with him.
I could be wrong.
Barry Bonds died for your sins.
by JI on Apr 21, 2008 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Whether they’re stuck with him and whether they know 9 million is retardiculous for a player of his “caliber,” can be two different things. Like I said, I would not be surprised if they wanted to keep him, resign him, etc. But I would be surprised if they did not realize that nine million is about 6 million more than any other team would pay him at best.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 21, 2008 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lofton in left and Ibanez to DH
I’d love that.
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 21, 2008 12:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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