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Costochondritis

Putz to 15-day D/L

Putz felt discomfort on a pitch to Michael Young in the 9th inning last night and was sore after the game. The Mariners had a precautionary MRI exam done today. It revealed that Putz has mild costochondritis on his right side. Costochondritis is inflammation where cartilage attaches to a rib.

Costochondritis is basically treated with rest and ibuprofen. The prognosis depends on the severity of the swelling. Most cases tend to take months before pain subsides.

Ray Corcoran has been called up in the meantime.

Jeff's note: in a weird way this is kind of a relief. Since it probably explains JJ's lack of command last night, now my brain can pretend the whole thing never happened and get back to thinking JJ's unhittable when he makes his return. In the meantime, uh oh

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JJ Putz, fuck

haha, well done

by Karma Police on Apr 2, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're wondering why Corcoran instead of Dickey

I think that since Dickey is out of options, were the Ms to call him up, then need to send him down in two weeks if/when JJ returns, they'd have to expose him to waivers again.

by Matthew on Apr 2, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah that's what I thought

I'd be awesome if we had an excellent setup man who could retire both righties and lefties with authority and was under club control for a few seasons.

by JI on Apr 2, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. He had at least one option

That's how they got him down to Tacoma in the first place, IIRC. I could be wrong, but they used his 2008 option to get him into Tacoma.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

They made a deal with the Twins by sending them a warm body to not take him back on Rule 5 rules.

http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080329&content_id=2464940&vkey=news_min&fext=.jsp&c_id=min

by brokejumper on Apr 2, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was the first part of it, yeah.

In order to USE the option, they had to take away his Rule 5 status. The trade erased the Rule 5 status (thereby affording the M's the opportunity to remove him from their 25-man roster). I believe they used the option to get him down to the minors, rather than having to force him down via waivers (which he indeed cleared, making this all the more confusing).

Still, I believe that he was indeed optioned down to Tacoma to start the year. One year, one option. You can send a guy up and down all you want with that one option, so he had at least one remaining.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone besides Corcoran I trust more

Except maybe Jimenez.

Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!

by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FREE GEORGE SHERRILL

You know, he might actually GET a save opp in April here...

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that poor meme

it's so completely beyond dead.

(not the Sherrill part of it, the Free part)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was funnier back in 2000

when an AP writer accidentally leaked the phone number for a GM/media conference call, and an ESPN message board user phoned in to shout "FREE ERUBIEL DURAZO JEFFREY LORIA IS THE ANGEL OF DEATH."

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty funny

except that Loria may in fact be an angel of death.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loria was on the line

he didn't think it was very mature.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

This is part of my online persona.

I hellapologize for kicking a dead meme.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Lowe will get his shot.

I hope.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCKING COCKSUCKERS

Lowe to the bigtime? Morrow fills his spot. Cairo cut. Dickey comes up....I grab Putz in fantasy leagues as people freak. Lowe dominates. Team signs Bonds as a response to Sexson being diagnosed with a bat shoved up his ass. I don't see how this works out badly. Feeling better now. The lies I tell myself are like heroin.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 2, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I kind of figured something was wrong

when Putz was tossing 92 MPH 'fastballs' last night.. At least this happens now with a semi-easy April schedule rather than in the meat of a pennant race.

by seattlesundevil on Apr 2, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good news: not his arm

Bad News: should be obvious at this point

Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!

by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Moreso than the injury itself

what I'm most worried about is that JJ will try to come back before he's totally healed and this'll turn into a nagging injury.

Note to JJ: take all the time you need. Don't you dare rush back. If this team can't deal with 2-4 Putzless weeks, it doesn't deserve to compete.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly

and if the M's start to struggle at all the temptation will be that much greater.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad news:

This team doesn't really deserve to compete. Everything needed to go right.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering everything the Angels have already lost

we're still in better shape than we were a month ago.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes well

better to have JJ unavailable but explained than available and unsettling.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention.

Sean Green or Mark Lowe are capable of holding the fort for a while.

by ThundaPC on Apr 2, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sexson's toast

and I have zero confidence in Wilkerson, because he's hit like Sexson when he hasn't been in Arlington's joke of a ballpark. Morse isn't very good. Neither is Vidro.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Seahawks have a tight-end named PUTZier

can we use him, call him JJ and pretend this never happened?

by MFAN on Apr 2, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Karma

for being so happy when Lackey and Escobar went down. The baseball gods don't take kindly to that sort of thing!

by sandalfan on Apr 2, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and don't you forget it!

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 2, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but seriously, this sucks

Putz is awesome and I hope everything is ok

the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

by Eyebrows on Apr 2, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vlad's next on the list

Anyone in SoCal with a 100lb spear?

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't work

because everyone in SoCal drives, thus rendering them far too lazy to be an effective killing force.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder the empire fell.

Speaking of falling empires, what do you think about the new coins?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I really like them

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was pretty impressed too

but I still think that the current 20p is one of the best coins ever. I don't even know why, I'm not even a coin geek, I just really like the 20p for some reason.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be at the game in 2 weeks.

I'll see what I can do.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where are your seats?

I got Section 107 for Sat and 130 for Sun

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Section 101

on Sunday. I waited too long and couldn't find anything outside the 500 level for Saturday. I might try CL that week and see if I can scalp some.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try StubHub

Thisis the link to Saturday's game - lots of good tickets to be had in the 106-109/127-130 (Field All-Star) Sections for around 45-50/per (which is what I paid - 50 for Sat, 40 for Sun)

Then use these on checkout to save even more money.

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool thanks.

I think my tickets for Sunday came out to around $80 $90 after ticketbastard got done with my wallet's anus.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, StubHub is pretty awesome

you just have to know how to use it and be willing to put in the extra ten minutes of work to get a good deal.

That's how I get almost all of my UCLA/M's tix - I just look for really undervalued ones on StubHub and find coupon codes to negate the rest of the cost.

It's doubly great because StubHub is so reputable and guarantees all the transactions (a major reason why I don't like CL - if the games worth going to, it's worth KNOWING that I'm going)

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good plan

my GF had some success with USC games last year getting tickets for $20 or less off CL, and then I just snuck her into the student section, but now being graduates we'll have to try other methods.

Although a friend of mine "sits" with the Herd so I must just get the cheapest tickets and follow him.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we do that at RB and Pauley too

We all have our BruinCards still, so we just buy general admit tickets and sit in the student section - since all the of the tickets are now electronic, the guards can't tell if you really are a student or not as long as you have an ID.

And this name-change thing is throwing me off - I forgot you were an SC fan! Why am I helping you !?!?! j/k =)

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willits would save them all

because of his superior scraposity and grittitude.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't blame me, I wept a river in grief.

I'm a sensitive kinda guy.

Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!

by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Costochondritis

By the way, thank you for the new excuse I can use when my girlfriend asks me to take her shopping.

Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!

by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it bad that I read this as

"Costcochondritis"?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Apr 2, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why injure one rib

when you can injure a whole pallet of 'em?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

has anyone considered

Batista as closer?

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Apr 2, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this idea

Batista is a former closing son of a bitch

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 2, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Different way to ask the same question:

"Anyone here high?"

Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!

by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

If you figure that you could call up Baek to start, it boils down to: do you want your closer to be Mark Lowe or Miggy Batista?

by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

how much faith do you have in Lowe's elbow?

I don't think this is a simple case of "who has the next best arm?" Because if you blow out both Lowe and Putz, you've increased the problem exponentially.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Apr 2, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I agree...

but is pitching the 9th more stress on Lowe's arm than the 7th or 8th?

It does seem to me that it's pretty likely that Baek > Cocoran as a pitcher (given close ERAs in the minors, but Baek's was gotten as a starter), so sticking Batista in the 'pen and starting Baek would make the team stronger.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to redwolf for carrying the torch

in hell...

On a related note, the Angels and Bruins fanbases have collectively decided that they are the world's classiest/best fans. They are wrong.

Sorry, I've been in a really anti-Anaheim and UCLA mood since the Rick Neuheisel hiring.

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 4:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But but but

Neuheisel, Walker and NC makes the best staff in the conference! Even if those guys across town have been dominating for 6 years now! Its all instantly null and void!

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me started ;)

I've wanted to punch a lot of Bruin fans since we hired Rick.

They spend a lot of time complaining about how SC is ruining college football and how Pete Carroll is a terrible person and how SC just pays to get their stupid players into school (that one might be true...) and how a classy school like UCLA would never do such a thing...

and then they go and blow their collective loads for Rick's Passion Bucket.

Bruin hoops fans aren't much better either. One thing I will say about SC's fan base (who I am also not a fan of due to the general thugtacularity of it in recent years) is that they don't pretend to be something they're not, and that's actually worth something. If I hear one more comment about how Pete Carroll is the devil and only class counts followed by ragging on Karl Dorrell...

You gotta admit, Norm and DeWayne are one hell of team, though =)

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

I had been better friends with his son, when Norm took the Titans job his son got to live in his $2 million dollar HB house, sigh.

I'll be honest I don't really talk to many USC fans outside of my friends because they can be divided largely into two groups:

Old alumni from before the administration tightened up academics (and thus generally, old, stupid, rich dudes with a bad sense of entitlement) or bandwagoners who only care because we're so mainstream.

The difference between anyone who graduated USC pre 2001 and post 2001 is night and day.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed that too, despite graduating in 07

Whenever I've been around UCLA/USC games, I find that the younger alumni tend to be much more receptive to general sports banter/rivalry and actually discussing the contest in question rather than a horrid sense of entitlement or the crappy bandwagon. Of course, we're starting to see the same thing with UCLA hoops now too, where half the fanbase only likes UCLA because we're winning a lot right now.

I'm the same way RE: other fans - in general, I only discuss Bruin athletics with people who I know are knowledgeable/caring with regards to the games - otherwise I feel like it's just a waste of my time (kind of why I come here too instead of Geoff Baker's blog). Otherwise the fanbase is much too "Hollywood" for me, and the campus being sandwiched between Brentwood and Bel-Air doesn't really help the sense of entitlement either.

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was in the Marching Band

and there was this horrible horrible mentality of "Old Band" and "New Band" that almost perfectly sums up the change in USC personality. I really think that it again largely draws from the past when USC was "The University of Spoiled Children" or "The University of Second Choice" etc. Sample has done a lot to shed this image and make over the student body much to the chagrin of the older alumni and fan base.

The football entitlement is still there though, thanks largely to having an entire graduating class that never knew what it was like to lose. I started in 2001 and watched USC games for 2 years before that (despite being from Washington) so I knew how bad things had been.

I find the best USC fans are the ones who remember the dark ages of He Who Can't Be Named and are able to retain perspective. But there aren't enough of them these days.

Thankfully the two "down" years have cleared things up a bit. I think a lot of band wagoners have moved over to Florida.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, honestly

I think I despise UCLA's fanbase almost as much as I do SC's (sorry... you know how it is - we're taught from Day One that SC is wrong) because we embody almost everything that I find repulsive about SC's fanbase except in hoops instead of football - we don't have the same "spoiled rich alumni children" problem but we still have the same thing where the older alumni are a bunch of windbags, they don't know how to cheer/support the team, and our bandwagon is starting to heat up.

This whole reffing thing isn't really making me any happier either...

I'm glad SC's bandwagon is migrating to Florida. That would be my ideal - lots of winning and no annoyingly huge bandwagon. Although I'd rather have the bandwagon than lose =)

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah the amount of favorable calls you guys have

been getting is insane, and I generally don't complain about officiating (Except for the loltastic reffing in all Pac 10 games regardless of teams).

But yeah, the bandwagoners suck, but its a part of winning in sports. And I'd rather win and distance myself from them, than lose all the time :/

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That could have been worse...

...on the other hand, Fuck. Months? Sherrill is in B-more, Morrow on rehab, Potatoes not up to it.

I say trade Varitek and Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb, STAT.

by lemonverbena on Apr 2, 2008 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think by posting a link to a trade that happened eleven years ago

I was implying that our organization really is stupid enough to pull this off.

Perhaps this will further explain the sarcasm in above post

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

However, I admittedly

clicked the link, so it'd have a success if your link worked.

by redwolf75 on Apr 2, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OHHHHH

crap... I was going to pull it off YouTube, but I'm at work so I can't make sure the links work before I post them, so I just Googled it....

Epic fail for me =(

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Putz out

Game over =(

by joof on Apr 2, 2008 4:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WE NEED TO TRADE FOR A VETERAN RELIEVER ASAP.

And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...

by EnglishMariner on Apr 2, 2008 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We can have both!

All we need to do is DFA Cairo.

And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...

by EnglishMariner on Apr 2, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jas-on Da-vis

clap-clapclap-clapclap

by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Triunfel for Al Reyes --

Al Reyes provides a rock solid presence in the pen, and Triunfel has demonstrated a concerning lack of success in the majors.

by redwolf75 on Apr 2, 2008 5:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is Coach's fault.

That horrible April "Fools" jinxed us.

by redwolf75 on Apr 2, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I knew he was hurt

There was no other explanation for losing 8 mph in velocity over the course of one night.

by OlSalty on Apr 2, 2008 6:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just got home and FSN breaks the news

Ahem....

... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and such.

My rational mind says we'll be fine. My GTE says
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....

by Gomez on Apr 2, 2008 6:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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