Costochondritis
by Matthew on Apr 2, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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PrintPutz felt discomfort on a pitch to Michael Young in the 9th inning last night and was sore after the game. The Mariners had a precautionary MRI exam done today. It revealed that Putz has mild costochondritis on his right side. Costochondritis is inflammation where cartilage attaches to a rib.
Costochondritis is basically treated with rest and ibuprofen. The prognosis depends on the severity of the swelling. Most cases tend to take months before pain subsides.
Ray Corcoran has been called up in the meantime.
Jeff's note: in a weird way this is kind of a relief. Since it probably explains JJ's lack of command last night, now my brain can pretend the whole thing never happened and get back to thinking JJ's unhittable when he makes his return. In the meantime, uh oh
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JJ Putz, fuck
haha, well done
Why couldn't today be April 1st?
Funk for '08!
If you're wondering why Corcoran instead of Dickey
I think that since Dickey is out of options, were the Ms to call him up, then need to send him down in two weeks if/when JJ returns, they'd have to expose him to waivers again.
yeah that's what I thought
I'd be awesome if we had an excellent setup man who could retire both righties and lefties with authority and was under club control for a few seasons.
by JI on Apr 2, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No. He had at least one option
That's how they got him down to Tacoma in the first place, IIRC. I could be wrong, but they used his 2008 option to get him into Tacoma.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
Nah
They made a deal with the Twins by sending them a warm body to not take him back on Rule 5 rules.
That was the first part of it, yeah.
In order to USE the option, they had to take away his Rule 5 status. The trade erased the Rule 5 status (thereby affording the M's the opportunity to remove him from their 25-man roster). I believe they used the option to get him down to the minors, rather than having to force him down via waivers (which he indeed cleared, making this all the more confusing).
Still, I believe that he was indeed optioned down to Tacoma to start the year. One year, one option. You can send a guy up and down all you want with that one option, so he had at least one remaining.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
Anyone besides Corcoran I trust more
Except maybe Jimenez.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
FREE GEORGE SHERRILL
You know, he might actually GET a save opp in April here...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
that poor meme
it's so completely beyond dead.
(not the Sherrill part of it, the Free part)
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It was funnier back in 2000
when an AP writer accidentally leaked the phone number for a GM/media conference call, and an ESPN message board user phoned in to shout "FREE ERUBIEL DURAZO JEFFREY LORIA IS THE ANGEL OF DEATH."
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
that's pretty funny
except that Loria may in fact be an angel of death.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Loria was on the line
he didn't think it was very mature.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry.
This is part of my online persona.
I hellapologize for kicking a dead meme.
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum
FUCKING COCKSUCKERS
Lowe to the bigtime? Morrow fills his spot. Cairo cut. Dickey comes up....I grab Putz in fantasy leagues as people freak. Lowe dominates. Team signs Bonds as a response to Sexson being diagnosed with a bat shoved up his ass. I don't see how this works out badly. Feeling better now. The lies I tell myself are like heroin.
I kind of figured something was wrong
when Putz was tossing 92 MPH 'fastballs' last night.. At least this happens now with a semi-easy April schedule rather than in the meat of a pennant race.
Moreso than the injury itself
what I'm most worried about is that JJ will try to come back before he's totally healed and this'll turn into a nagging injury.
Note to JJ: take all the time you need. Don't you dare rush back. If this team can't deal with 2-4 Putzless weeks, it doesn't deserve to compete.
My thoughts exactly
and if the M's start to struggle at all the temptation will be that much greater.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad news:
This team doesn't really deserve to compete. Everything needed to go right.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 2, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering everything the Angels have already lost
we're still in better shape than we were a month ago.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
But we're in way worse shape than this time yesterday
by Graham MacAree on Apr 2, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes well
better to have JJ unavailable but explained than available and unsettling.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sexson's toast
and I have zero confidence in Wilkerson, because he's hit like Sexson when he hasn't been in Arlington's joke of a ballpark. Morse isn't very good. Neither is Vidro.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
the Seahawks have a tight-end named PUTZier
can we use him, call him JJ and pretend this never happened?
Karma
for being so happy when Lackey and Escobar went down. The baseball gods don't take kindly to that sort of thing!
but seriously, this sucks
Putz is awesome and I hope everything is ok
the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]
I'm still happy that Lackey and Escobar are hurt
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If the M's team plane crashes
we know who to blame.
Richie Sexson.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking Spiezio
but that's a good one too.
Player A's only good for car crashes
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Vlad's next on the list
Anyone in SoCal with a 100lb spear?
by Graham MacAree on Apr 2, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't work
because everyone in SoCal drives, thus rendering them far too lazy to be an effective killing force.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you know the Roman army couldn't even drive?
What a bunch of morons
by Graham MacAree on Apr 2, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder the empire fell.
Speaking of falling empires, what do you think about the new coins?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty impressed too
but I still think that the current 20p is one of the best coins ever. I don't even know why, I'm not even a coin geek, I just really like the 20p for some reason.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Where are your seats?
I got Section 107 for Sat and 130 for Sun
Section 101
on Sunday. I waited too long and couldn't find anything outside the 500 level for Saturday. I might try CL that week and see if I can scalp some.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Try StubHub
Cool thanks.
I think my tickets for Sunday came out to around $80 $90 after ticketbastard got done with my wallet's anus.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Yeah, StubHub is pretty awesome
you just have to know how to use it and be willing to put in the extra ten minutes of work to get a good deal.
That's how I get almost all of my UCLA/M's tix - I just look for really undervalued ones on StubHub and find coupon codes to negate the rest of the cost.
It's doubly great because StubHub is so reputable and guarantees all the transactions (a major reason why I don't like CL - if the games worth going to, it's worth KNOWING that I'm going)
Good plan
my GF had some success with USC games last year getting tickets for $20 or less off CL, and then I just snuck her into the student section, but now being graduates we'll have to try other methods.
Although a friend of mine "sits" with the Herd so I must just get the cheapest tickets and follow him.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Yeah, we do that at RB and Pauley too
We all have our BruinCards still, so we just buy general admit tickets and sit in the student section - since all the of the tickets are now electronic, the guards can't tell if you really are a student or not as long as you have an ID.
And this name-change thing is throwing me off - I forgot you were an SC fan! Why am I helping you !?!?! j/k =)
I hope the Angels plane crashes into the side of the fucking mountain
all will be fucked
by JI on Apr 2, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Willits would save them all
because of his superior scraposity and grittitude.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't blame me, I wept a river in grief.
I'm a sensitive kinda guy.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't tempt the boy.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Damnit. :(
Wait, but it says you're NOT Corco! :D
by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Be careful what you're getting into
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Costochondritis
By the way, thank you for the new excuse I can use when my girlfriend asks me to take her shopping.
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
Is it bad that I read this as
"Costcochondritis"?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 2, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions
why injure one rib
when you can injure a whole pallet of 'em?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
has anyone considered
Batista as closer?
Go Fo Broke!
Different way to ask the same question:
"Anyone here high?"
Previously NoNameX -- Go M's!
by JLC on Apr 2, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
If you figure that you could call up Baek to start, it boils down to: do you want your closer to be Mark Lowe or Miggy Batista?
by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
and
how much faith do you have in Lowe's elbow?
I don't think this is a simple case of "who has the next best arm?" Because if you blow out both Lowe and Putz, you've increased the problem exponentially.
Go Fo Broke!
Oh, I agree...
but is pitching the 9th more stress on Lowe's arm than the 7th or 8th?
It does seem to me that it's pretty likely that Baek > Cocoran as a pitcher (given close ERAs in the minors, but Baek's was gotten as a starter), so sticking Batista in the 'pen and starting Baek would make the team stronger.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he had trouble warming up
But this makes more sense. I'm sure glad we traded for that Ramirez kid.
Thanks to redwolf for carrying the torch
in hell...
On a related note, the Angels and Bruins fanbases have collectively decided that they are the world's classiest/best fans. They are wrong.
Sorry, I've been in a really anti-Anaheim and UCLA mood since the Rick Neuheisel hiring.
But but but
Neuheisel, Walker and NC makes the best staff in the conference! Even if those guys across town have been dominating for 6 years now! Its all instantly null and void!
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Don't get me started ;)
I've wanted to punch a lot of Bruin fans since we hired Rick.
They spend a lot of time complaining about how SC is ruining college football and how Pete Carroll is a terrible person and how SC just pays to get their stupid players into school (that one might be true...) and how a classy school like UCLA would never do such a thing...
and then they go and blow their collective loads for Rick's Passion Bucket.
Bruin hoops fans aren't much better either. One thing I will say about SC's fan base (who I am also not a fan of due to the general thugtacularity of it in recent years) is that they don't pretend to be something they're not, and that's actually worth something. If I hear one more comment about how Pete Carroll is the devil and only class counts followed by ragging on Karl Dorrell...
You gotta admit, Norm and DeWayne are one hell of team, though =)
I wish
I had been better friends with his son, when Norm took the Titans job his son got to live in his $2 million dollar HB house, sigh.
I'll be honest I don't really talk to many USC fans outside of my friends because they can be divided largely into two groups:
Old alumni from before the administration tightened up academics (and thus generally, old, stupid, rich dudes with a bad sense of entitlement) or bandwagoners who only care because we're so mainstream.
The difference between anyone who graduated USC pre 2001 and post 2001 is night and day.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
I've noticed that too, despite graduating in 07
Whenever I've been around UCLA/USC games, I find that the younger alumni tend to be much more receptive to general sports banter/rivalry and actually discussing the contest in question rather than a horrid sense of entitlement or the crappy bandwagon. Of course, we're starting to see the same thing with UCLA hoops now too, where half the fanbase only likes UCLA because we're winning a lot right now.
I'm the same way RE: other fans - in general, I only discuss Bruin athletics with people who I know are knowledgeable/caring with regards to the games - otherwise I feel like it's just a waste of my time (kind of why I come here too instead of Geoff Baker's blog). Otherwise the fanbase is much too "Hollywood" for me, and the campus being sandwiched between Brentwood and Bel-Air doesn't really help the sense of entitlement either.
I was in the Marching Band
and there was this horrible horrible mentality of "Old Band" and "New Band" that almost perfectly sums up the change in USC personality. I really think that it again largely draws from the past when USC was "The University of Spoiled Children" or "The University of Second Choice" etc. Sample has done a lot to shed this image and make over the student body much to the chagrin of the older alumni and fan base.
The football entitlement is still there though, thanks largely to having an entire graduating class that never knew what it was like to lose. I started in 2001 and watched USC games for 2 years before that (despite being from Washington) so I knew how bad things had been.
I find the best USC fans are the ones who remember the dark ages of He Who Can't Be Named and are able to retain perspective. But there aren't enough of them these days.
Thankfully the two "down" years have cleared things up a bit. I think a lot of band wagoners have moved over to Florida.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
Yeah, honestly
I think I despise UCLA's fanbase almost as much as I do SC's (sorry... you know how it is - we're taught from Day One that SC is wrong) because we embody almost everything that I find repulsive about SC's fanbase except in hoops instead of football - we don't have the same "spoiled rich alumni children" problem but we still have the same thing where the older alumni are a bunch of windbags, they don't know how to cheer/support the team, and our bandwagon is starting to heat up.
This whole reffing thing isn't really making me any happier either...
I'm glad SC's bandwagon is migrating to Florida. That would be my ideal - lots of winning and no annoyingly huge bandwagon. Although I'd rather have the bandwagon than lose =)
Yeah the amount of favorable calls you guys have
been getting is insane, and I generally don't complain about officiating (Except for the loltastic reffing in all Pac 10 games regardless of teams).
But yeah, the bandwagoners suck, but its a part of winning in sports. And I'd rather win and distance myself from them, than lose all the time :/
The poster formerly known as Matt.
That could have been worse...
...on the other hand, Fuck. Months? Sherrill is in B-more, Morrow on rehab, Potatoes not up to it.
I say trade Varitek and Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb, STAT.
I think by posting a link to a trade that happened eleven years ago
I was implying that our organization really is stupid enough to pull this off.
Perhaps this will further explain the sarcasm in above post
OHHHHH
crap... I was going to pull it off YouTube, but I'm at work so I can't make sure the links work before I post them, so I just Googled it....
Epic fail for me =(
WE NEED TO TRADE FOR A VETERAN RELIEVER ASAP.
And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...
We can have both!
All we need to do is DFA Cairo.
And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...
by EnglishMariner on Apr 2, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Jas-on Da-vis
clap-clapclap-clapclap
by eponymous_coward on Apr 2, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Triunfel for Al Reyes --
Al Reyes provides a rock solid presence in the pen, and Triunfel has demonstrated a concerning lack of success in the majors.
I knew he was hurt
There was no other explanation for losing 8 mph in velocity over the course of one night.
I just got home and FSN breaks the news
Ahem....
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My rational mind says we'll be fine. My GTE says
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