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Biggest Contribution: King Felix, +50.8%
Biggest Suckfest: JJ Putz, -64.5%
Most Important AB: Betancourt single, +23.4%
Most Important Pitch: Hamilton homer, -65.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -48.0%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -70.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +68.4%
(What is this chart?)

You know what's my favorite part of Felix Day? The part before the game. The buildup. Life affords few pleasures quite like the anticipation of Felix Day. "This could be the day he finally throws that no-hitter," we keep telling ourselves from sunup to sundown. It's an exercise in fantasy and fully-blown optimism, the likes of which no other Seattle-area athlete could ever hope to beget. Felix Day is enough to make us punt our concerns with the promise that, by nightfall, we could be witnessing something extraordinary.

Then the game starts and too often it's a colossal disappointment. Not even necessarily because Felix was struggling, but because when you allow the breeze of hope to unlatch the gates and free your imagination, your standards become almost unrealistic. Few humans - even humans led by Felix - can consistently meet the level of expectations set by the Felix Day hype. It just isn't possible.

Today was no exception, although it took us all game to find this out. In fact, for the first little while, this looked like something pulled from our daydreams. Through three innings, Felix had three strikeouts, a walk, and eight groundballs. The Rangers weren't putting anything in the air or getting great swings, and Felix had the tempo and efficiency of someone who wanted to go all nine. This wasn't quite on par with Opening Day 2007 - that performance was truly exceptional - but this was still absurdly terrific, and Felix was even doing a reasonable job of mixing his pitches for good measure. The lone blemish was that a Felix throwing error wound up leading to a Ranger run, but speaking as a pitcher who has a lot of experience darting off the mound and fielding bunts, those throws to first are never as easy as you'd think they'd be. For one thing, you invariably feel more rushed than you actually are, and for another, it's tough to make an accurate throw on a flat surface when you've spent the whole game working on the mound.

So while Texas was on the board, after three innings I was feeling pretty confident. Felix wasn't taking guff from nobody, and you had to figure that even our sorry pack of losers called a lineup would eventually be able to scrape together a second run against Vicente Padilla. The odds were absolutely in our favor, no matter what the scoreboard would suggest.

Then Felix went south. It sounds silly to say that considering he ripped off four consecutive scoreless innings before calling it a night, but somewhere between the third and the fourth he decided to get lazy. Felix started allowing fly balls, and while I wasn't watching closely enough to pinpoint exactly why, that's a symptom. People getting air under the ball against Felix is a sign that he isn't on top of his game. Over his final four innings, Felix's line read as follows:

6 groundballs
5 fly balls
5 line drives
2 walks
0 strikeouts

That's not Felix. That's not even Carlos Silva. The King wasn't in a groove anymore, and while we managed to escape unscathed thanks to some timely grounders and Felix helping his own cause with wacky acrobatics (wackrobatics), I looked to the horizon and saw the familiar cloud of negativity approaching with haste. This game wasn't in the bag. Not anymore. Not with our offense standing around lighting its own farts on fire while Padilla weaseled his way to a quality start and Eddie Guardado made his triumphant return to a place where he'll forever be remembered more for what he did for somebody else than for what he did on the field.

Still knotted at one, we got to the eighth in time for what we can only hope was an homage on Eric O'Flaherty's part to Guardado's enduring memory. O'Flaherty faced five Rangers in the inning - three of them left-handed - and only retired the two righties, putting the Mariners in a 3-1 hole that felt entirely too deep. Watching from home, George Sherrill chuckled to himself before turning the TV off, crawling under his team-issued Oriole bedspread, and weeping into his pillow. I like O'Flaherty's potential in the lefty setup role, but he is a substantial downgrade, and this is one of the drawbacks of the Bedard trade that we'll just have to deal with. I'll miss those slurves.

Just as we prepared to surrender all hope against the underrated Joaquin Benoit, though, we were reminded of a big reason why no one's picking the Rangers to win anything in 2008: their team defense is bad. Sure, Hamilton had already made some dazzling catches in center, but he's only one guy, and the rest of the group looked more uncomfortable than Michael J Fox in a paint-by-numbers competition. The inning got started when the defensively pathetic Michael Young short-hopped the defensively pathetic Ben Broussard, putting Jose Vidro on second base. Then three batters later - with a run in and men on the corners - Ichiro hit a roller to second that Ian Kinsler fumbled on the transfer, leaving everyone safe and the ballgame tied. Improbably, not only had the Rangers let the Mariners back into the game, but the Mariners suddenly found themselves in position to actually take the lead. Having seen the first seven innings of attempted offense, this was beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

Then came the sequence that I think pretty much convinced everyone watching that each team was trying its damndest to make the other team win. Following a Lopez sac bunt and Ibanez intentional walk, Richie Sexson came up with the bases loaded, needing only a fly ball to drive in the go-ahead run. Benoit promptly uncorked five consecutive balls, but Sexson somehow willed his way into a full count. Thwarted, Benoit tried again to give the game away, but on a 3-2 low and away fastball that I swear traveled in slow motion, Sexson lunged for an off-balance swing and a miss. I swear to god, every one of these at bat just tickles my spine in all the wrong ways. Richie and Beltre swapped places, with Beltre giving him a quick glance of disgust.

Undeterred, Benoit took things into his own hands and bounced a wild pitch. Almost before we could express to Richie our innermost desires to experience the rush of vehicular homicide, the game did a 180 and the Mariners had the lead courtesy of three runs that were for all intents and purposes handed to them on a dish. Armed with a 4-3 lead that the team didn't deserve, I sat here laughing to myself and clapping in a reserved fashion so as not to wake the neighbors. Wilkerson made an out to end the inning, but so what? With JJ, a lead in the ninth is a win in the standings. The Texas Rangers had given us this game.

Then, like assholes, they took it back.

On the one hand, you could kind of see it coming. JJ had neither his usual command nor his usual velocity, and as soon as the pitch to Hamilton left his hand you knew it was going straight to Hamilton's wheelhouse. But on the other, this is JJ Putz, and even though I say I could see it coming, based on my dumbfounded reaction, I couldn't really see it coming. I honestly don't remember anything that happened between that swing and Yuni's double in the bottom of the ninth. It's just a gap in my memory, a gap left unfilled because while the rest of the game was taking place, I was sitting here blankly staring ahead wondering how I was ever going to come to terms with this.

The answer is: I'm not sure yet. I mean, it's early, and we had no right to so much as even be in the game. But it's not the fact that they lost; it's the way that they lost. I hate it when JJ blows a save because every single bad outing of his rattles my core and makes me think that he could revert to what he used to be just as quickly as he ascended to awesomeness. It's stupid, because he's a different pitcher now than he ever was before the splitter, but it's a feeling I can't shake, and it's incredibly unpleasant. This will not be a comfortable sleep.

But I'll get over it, and so will JJ. If Texas has to be the team that has his number, better them than the Angels, I guess. Tomorrow's a new day. And while Carlos Silva and his ocean of grease may not be quite as exciting as Bedard or King Felix, he's a hell of a lot better than the nothing we've seen for six months.

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Padilla

Made me think my internet was causing problems.

by Slica on Apr 2, 2008 1:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it sickens me to admit

but yes, incredibly, i can see rooting for Bonds in an M's uniform. did i seriously just write that? fuck things must be bad. but seriously:

Vidro, or
Bonds.

it's not even close.

Richie Zisk
Gorman Thomas
Jeffrey Leonard

there is precedent here.

by lemonverbena on Apr 2, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I keep finding myself pulled back

To that ESPN/Jonah Keri 100 Stories to Watch in 2008 article. #2?

Barry Bonds: No one will touch him with a 40-foot foul pole -- for now. But what happens when the Mets, Mariners or another go-for-it-now club realizes it's missing a bat for its title run?

Get him now. Want.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by thejew4u on Apr 2, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that fucking sucked.

A few things from the game:

1.Holy fucking shit it was cold. This was a miserable night at the ballpark.

2.Hahaha the Rangers MIF is horrid.

3.Felix was meh, but the results were there.

4.I blame JJ's blown save on the fact that they kept playing parts of Thunderstruck after each pitch. It was annoying.

5. Fuck Richie Sexson. Die in a Fire you miserable piece of monkey shit.

6. I got warned by an usher, because while I was screaming obscenities at Sexson, this lady in front of me turns around and says "Don't you ever shut up?" So since I'm already pissed because of Sexson I responded with "No I don't fucking shut up. I'm gonna scream all fucking day woman. I don't need the fucking scoreboard to fucking tell when the fuck I should make some noise like the rest of you stupid idiots. Richie Sexson sucks, and you see Willie out there at 2nd base? He sucks too. What does that piss you off? Well suck my dick."

5 minutes later an usher taps me on the shoulder and tells me if I don't calm down, I will be asked to leave.

Seriously, I hate going to Mariner games sometimes.

If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?

by Goose on Apr 2, 2008 1:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry but

if you tell a lady to suck your dick, you deserve to be thrown out.

by vj on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point was is that she is a shining example of what is wrong with this retarded fanbase.

If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?

by Goose on Apr 2, 2008 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

visit Petco Park

Padres fans make M's fans look like Liverpool

by lemonverbena on Apr 2, 2008 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's different

because I really don't care about the Padres - it's only a bonus if they do well.

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GTE doesn't actually work at the game

because not everybody shares the same opinions.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm!

Hey, were you in section 135, about row 35? I remember those guys were pretty rowdy against Sexson and the mom with her kids got pissed off and left while I was taking pictures of the 8th and 9th.

by batura on Apr 2, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in my defense(well not really but oh well)

I had the support of these three guys who were sitting next to me who were pretty cool to talk to the whole game(and who made some noise themselves.)

If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?

by Goose on Apr 2, 2008 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Have some tact man. There's a nice retort and there's just being vulgar for the sake of being vulgar.

by phil333 on Apr 2, 2008 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense, but this story makes you seem like an asshole.

Cursing is one thing, but if a woman tells you to pipe down, then for fuck's sake pipe down. I don't care how many of your fellow men agreed with you - you were acting like a boor, and your response to her redounds to your discredit.

by esoteric on Apr 2, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll tell you good job

Somebody who tells you to shut up at a sports event deserves to hear it no matter who they are.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 2, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

I'm not mr. family-friendly ballgame atmosphere guy, but if someone asks me to quiet down, my first response would definitely not be "suck my dick" (if I was sitting around where this happened and somebody in my section ripped the shit out of some random woman for no real reason, I probably would have popped him, just on general principle. There's no need to go off on the person like that - just ignore them and go about your business, or move sections.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pedant.

But yeah, either response would have drawn fire from me, probably. There's no reason to react like that, especially in a stadium with lots of empty seats that can be moved to easily.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would have drawn fire from me as well

simply say, ma'am I paid for my tickets just like you paid for yours and that gives me the right to boo and heckle the team just like it gives you the right to cheer for them.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct response in Seattle is to go passive aggressive

Nod as if you agree with what they say and then continue to do what you want.

The user formerly known as Sec 108.

by Sec 108 on Apr 2, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer to tell women

to shut their blowholes. It's at once more polite than saying 'suck my dick' but so much more rude when you think about it.

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, the outcome of the game was worth reading No.6

It's one game, totally worth reading No.6

by Wilder. on Apr 2, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cockpunch

After reading the Boxscore, I totally expected to see that picture here. Oh well, here's to Jeff's reviews not being predictable.
The pen and J.J. had to blow a game eventually.

by vj on Apr 2, 2008 1:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the fact that Putz has a blown save already.

But this was a game we deserved to lose. There were a bunch of momentum-generating plays by Felix (the throw home, the throw to 2nd, catch'em-out, throw-em out double-play). The offense responded each time by not getting a runner past 2nd base. Heck, they could barely GET a runner into 2nd.

This offense is looking as weak as feared so far, unfortunately. Not to mention this is the type of game that we used to win on a regular basis last year causing us to over-perform our pythag. Regression to the mean?

But whatever, it's only one game. I actually can't wait to see what Silva brings to the table for this team. Pitching has been as good as expected. Offense...eehh...whatever, it's still early.

by ThundaPC on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This was indeed the kind of game they won last year

and I think expecting potatoes to repeat Sherrill's performance is a bit far-fetched.

The offense is almost as pathetic as the 2004 iteration. Sure, Beltre will provide some hope from time to time, but I'm starting to fear that Wilkerson may end up being Player B.

Bonds indeed, Maybe someone can slather Lincoln in barbecue sauce and leave him in Vidro's locker.

by discovolante on Apr 2, 2008 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, holy crap Felix made some nice plays out there.

If Pinocchio has a cocaine problem and he lies about it, does that make it worse?

by Goose on Apr 2, 2008 2:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That Sexson at bat

I know shit about baseball, but was screaming at Richie to hold off swinging at that pitch. Benoit knew that he couldn't drop in a strike and risk clearing the bases so had to throw something funky.

Jesus Richie, just watch it go past you man and walk in the run. Aaaaaaargh!! :o(

Accidental Mariner - P3 W1 L2 (.333)
Sponsor of Jamie Burke's baseball-reference page

by MarkE on Apr 2, 2008 2:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you will reference Jeff's opening day pregame post

You will find this...

"1. Josh Hamilton - Im sure you guys have already shit your pants minimum of 5 to 7 and 3/4ths times thinking about this beast. He drank his first sip of alochol and did his first line of cocaine..IN THE SAME NIGHT. He was like "Marijuana is a gateway drug? FUCK THAT. BAM I KICK THAT GATE RIGHT DOWN, STRAIT TO THE YAYO." I mean a man with that kind of commitment, you can only imagine what he is going to do on the baseball field."

I mean...did you guys think I was kidding? Did you think it was a joke?

This is not playtime.

Also, Goose. I like your style with the lady, lets hook up, and by that its not what you think, I mean sexually.

by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 2, 2008 6:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least....

...you didn't praise the virtues of Fukumori.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 2, 2008 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ponies.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, but no banning

this is the funniest shit I've read on here in a long time

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After two games out of 162

is definitely the best time ever to boast of how superior your team is.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton did look like the best player for either team yesterday.

All those drugs did something terrible to his hair - he looks like he stole Richard Simmons' balding white-fro.

by Jed MC on Apr 2, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton actually looked like he was trying to win

which is different from most of the guys last night. But still. Not sure that level of braggadocio is warranted after two games.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton is extremely good

there's a pretty good chance he ends up being the best position player in the division.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume you're including defense in that?

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what's funny?

Cincinnati started the offseason with both Hamilton and Jay Bruce in the organisation, and have managed to come up with an outfield of Dunn/Patterson/Griffey.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't quite get behind your boygasms

is that Hamilton looks shakey in the field... that "amazing catch" that Sims raved about was a routine warning track fly that he slowed down for, stumbled slightly (no doubt fearing a collision with the wall) and caught over the shoulder... Ichiro would have just run under it and caught it non-chalantly.

And as for the homerun... yeah he stroked a mistake. JJ looked off from the first pitch though. The mistake pitch was supposed to be outside, but wound up a low inside 92 mph fastball, just the sort of pitch that lefties love. It had "meat" written all over it.

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA HA APRIL FOOLS

I was just kidding that game was total bullshit it didn't count.
-god.

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 6:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

About the MIF Defense...

I said this in the gamepost, but wanted to throw this out again: Young and Blalock had caught the bug that Kinsler has and were under the weather. That's why Blalock was subbed out. I know their defense isn't good, but they're better than they showed last night (especially Kinsler).

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 2, 2008 6:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beltre has a bad thumb that is still bothering him from tearing a ligament last June.

I will give you that it was cold last night. Having the flu is a lame excuse, unless it keeps you out of the lineup.

by Wilder. on Apr 2, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few things I noticed

Padilla threw ~110 pitches, about 100 of them fastballs. And he couldn't spot it for shit, either. And he came away with one run. Fuck.

Felix had great location with his breaking stuff at times, but wasn't getting the calls. Too bad, but I think a big part of that line for the last four innings was just that.

We have 3 major rally killers very nicely spread through the lineup for maximal damage.

Felix got through the left handers pretty easily yesterday, which is sweet. Generally speaking, how much of his splits can be accounted for by Sexson's shittiness, do you think?

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 6:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh and the best color comment of the young season

"... Ichiro taking a lead out there, standing very still, like a mannequin in attack position"

Did something bad happen at a department store?

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty cool staying up until 1:30

East Coast Time for this bunch of ballyhoo. I agree, though, they had no business being in this game after the 8th, especially when the Rangers themselves tried to give us as many insurance runs as we wanted to take.

by BHP on Apr 2, 2008 6:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is sort of funny how

the M's have played to expectations so far. I know short sample theater, but still.

1. Richie looks D.O.N.E. Slow bat & terrible in the field - it looks like his reaction time is just too slow for MLB.
2. King Awesome & Ichiro! are easily the best position players on the team - nobody else is even close.
3. Felix & Bedard are great - even when they aren't at their best.
4. The defense and offense are mediocre at best when King Awesome and Ichiro! aren't involved.
5. The bullpen isn't as good as last year.

by Jed MC on Apr 2, 2008 7:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Having watched the majority of both last couple M's games

I'm kinda surprised more venom's not being directed Brad Wilkerson's way. I mean at this point, you might as well stick Morse in RF and see how much of a fluke that .500 spring training batting avg really was. He literally can't do worse than Wilkerson has so far at the plate.

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*both M's games

I need to actually read what I type more often. -_-;

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Admittedly,

no. But in that case, the same comment mostly applies to Jose Vidro. >_>

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I mean we just don't really have a choice

obviously there are options out there to improve our outfield and offense... But if the F.O. and coaches are intent on sticking with this roster, then we are just fucked.

by thenatural on Apr 2, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

There's no really elegant way to fix the roster right now.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point,

it really looks like a mistake to not have kept Guillen. I mean, I don't know if he was still causing problems in the clubhouse like he was with the Angels, but no one can say the guy doesn't have a decent bat and a great arm from the OF.

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it looked like a mistake last July

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, at the time they thought

Adam Jones would step in, but obviously he was traded. I guess Wilkerson wasn't a terrible patch on short notice. Ah well, it;s only 2 games in. David Ortiz doesn't have any hits yet either, maybe Wilkerson's just started slow.

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Apr 2, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

never a bad idea

to hold on to undervalued talent, Jones or no. Jones could have stepped in for Ibanez just as well. Sigh.

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Guillen is undervalued at all

His defence makes him a barely above average player.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The venom will come in time

we just have to get used to Wilkerson before we blast the crap out of him.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rangers fans

already seem plenty used to broussard enough to blast him

by ab03 on Apr 2, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not fair

his first awful game was against a lefty. Ben shouldn't play against lefties.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're still feeling protective

that's sweet.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want us both to be happy

I meant it when I promised Ben we'd remain good friends.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson

Is probably the closest player to hit a homerun so far so I'm giving him some time.

by ThundaPC on Apr 2, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else see this?

There was a ball hit by a Ranger (I was too angry to remember who) to the right side and Richie actually stepped the wrong way and dove back to his right and missed it. RICHIE went the wrong way...fucktard

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 8:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that was on his error that should have been a DP.

He also reacted comically late to a line drive that went over his head. He didn't have a shot to catch it, but it was already in RF before he left the ground. I really want Richie to do well, but the magic 8 ball says "all signs point to no".

by Jed MC on Apr 2, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be the first to say it:

FREE BARRY BONDS!!!

Seriously. Get Sexson the hell away from this team. Boo his ass out of town. Vidro, too, for that matter. Ugh!

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 9:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not very Positive, Paul

but you're right.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and nice dead meme.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm POSITIVE it's not "positive"

But I'm at least still positive!

Seriously -- the fans really need to boo Sexson. His bat speed is gone, and isn't coming back. He shouldn't be the cleanup hitter, and he shouldn't be anywhere near this team at all. Having the fans boo might actually help -- it'll stir the pot and make things worse, hopefully causing Bavasi to use his "give this guy a shot elsewhere" button and get him the F out of town...

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If GM's made moves based on fan sentiment

GM's would be an awful lot stupider.

Booing Richie isn't going to accomplish anything. I'm not saying I'm against it, but let's not pretend like it'll make any kind of positive difference.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it is accomplishing something

it's making him commit more errors because he's pressing. I'm not naive enough to say that if the booing stops, he'll improve, but at this point dude's completely lost and he's trying waaaaaaay too hard because he's trying to make the boos stop. It's only getting worse.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what makes me sad

and again, I don't think he'll miraculously get better if the boos stop, but at this point it's just piling on.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booing helped run player A out of town a few months quicker than expected.

I'm not saying they'll cave, but if management is thinking about 86ing him, if he's getting booed at home it's only going to help speed the process along.

by JI on Apr 2, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate

Sexson, Raul, and the Joses. I hate our bull pen minus JJ. May they all die slow painful deaths.

by InSpokane on Apr 2, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hear the Orioles need fans

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excuse me

i hear you need a new face

by InSpokane on Apr 2, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh snap!

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richie's at the point where all he has to do is not swing

and he'll be worlds more effective than he is right now.

If that isn't an indicator this organization needs to move on, I don't know what is.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

me too

I am in a super pissy mood, and it will likely make as bad at my job and Richie

by InSpokane on Apr 2, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dramatically so

On the one hand, we get to watch Felix and Bedard 2 of every 5 nights. On the other, we have to watch this lineup every night.

Life isn't fair.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

This is why tonight's game can't get here soon enough. We need to see some sweet redemption to make last night go away.

Is it too much to hope we score 10+ runs?

by Wilder. on Apr 2, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In one game?

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by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly what Jeff was talking about

when he discussed the 'fantasy land' state of mind we get into before games.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In regards to Sexson

I understand the backlash after last year...

but its 2 games and when you look at it, he's been no worse then
Wilkerson-Raul-Vidro....

We don't have a better option right now anyways.. and if this team is going to stay out of third in the division its going to need Sexson to provide some ofense.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that's the problem

is that nobody in their right mind thinks Sexson can provide some offense. At least not in a baseball sense.

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by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he may or may not

but two games is hard to tell....
Wilkerson is just as bad if not worse and he didn't provide much offense last year either and alot was expected of him coming into this year.

Frankly speaking this whole offense was expected to do alot, and its not going to get it done... and there really are no good options waiting in the wings.... so this team is going to remain a what you see is what you get team.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather be a fan of this team

then ever see Bonds in a Mariner jersey.

I'd probably stop following this team if Bonds was ever signed.... which thank god that fucker won't be.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the deal's done

we'll see you after the 5 games in which you stay away, when you won't be able to resist...just once....checking the score, which leads to watching the game.

Face it, you drank the Kool-Aid with the rest of us. You're a Mariners fan. You have to admit that Bonds would be a tremendous improvement over what's currently there, and that's all that matters. If you want a babysitter for your kids, sure, you might look elsewhere, but for a DH you'll struggle to find a better one than Bonds.

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by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually no I wouldn't

I've met Bonds... and if he's a Mariner, I won't be a fan of the team until he's gone.... that's the truth. I don't give a shit about his baseball skills.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is it about Barry that you hate?

Is it the arrogance? The probable steroid use? The perjury? The personality? I'm curious.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonds is the only player to have ever upset the media by using steriods.

...besides Mark McGwire. And I think race may play into the public's perception of him too.

by JI on Apr 2, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The person

like I said... met him in person by accident .. hope he spends the rest of his life in jail or worse.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, that's fair

but me, never having met Bonds myself, I'm inclined to believe that I've unwittingly rooted for much worse people at some point. So as long as he could help my team, I'd be happy to live in willful ignorance.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny the wife beaters get off clean

But Bonds? Nah. He might've committed perjury!

Oh, the horror!

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my hatred of him

has nothing to do with steriods or perjury.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What'd he do, rip on Juneau?

I mean, a man like Bonds I'm more inclined to think would completely ignore the average person as opposed to go out of his way to demean.

But, I haven't met him. So what do I know.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rip on Juneau

I don't want to get into details, so lets just leave it as I have my reasons and none of them are baseball related.

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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 2, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You were a fan of the team

When we had Carl Everett and Julio Mateo. By all accounts, they're much worse people than Barry Bonds. So Bonds is an arrogant prick and took steroids. At least he didn't neglect his kid or punch his wife. Plus, he can hit.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he needs to clean up his reputation

and use his hitting abilities on the female population...

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he used them on Pedro Gomez

That's why he picked Nick Swisher to win the AL MVP. The dude's completely lost all use of his frontal cortex.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By accident?

What did you crash into his Lexus or something? Yeah, I'd probably think he's an a-hole, too, if the first time I met him was after I crashed into his Lexus...

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by PositivePaul on Apr 2, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, a 1.000 OPS bat and a winning team is a terrible idea.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson is NOT bad. He's NOT bad.

Dude ran a .786 OPS last year with a hard luck BABIP for his line drive rate. He walks more than almost any other hitter on the team and he absolutely crushed one last night that Hamilton just made a nice play on. Wilkerson is NOT as bad as Sexson or worse. Why doesn't anybody like the guy? I don't get it.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson is not bad

but we could do so much better with Balentien and/or Bonds.

by IceStormV1 on Apr 2, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

Balentien would not post a better season than Wilkerson this year

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you bat wise.

But I think Wlad's a better defender. Wlad should be on the team right now, but he should be batting behind Wilk. If I were to guess, I'd figure Wlad and Wilk would do this

Wlad: .250/.315/.450
Wilk: .240/.330/.470

Wlad should be playing with the big club though.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilk LF, Wlad RF, Ibanez 1B is the best option we probably have in-house.

I'm for signing Bonds but it won't happen. Ideally on May 1st our lineup (barring a trade or free agent signing--please kick the bucket Lincoln so we can sign Barry) will look like this (vs. RHP anyway):

CF Ichiro
2B Lopez
1B Ibanez
3B Beltre
LF Wilkerson
RF Wlad
DH Clement
C Kenji
SS Betancourt

That's probably the best "in-house" lineup we can field.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't lost hope yet

fact is most of the offense has looked pathetic. But Sexson's absolutely on the shortest leash.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the fanshots

was Red's Beltre face on a stick really like four feet tall?

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

It was beautiful!

Free Barry Bonds

by thejew4u on Apr 2, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was sitting about 10 sections down from him

But from where I was sitting, and from the up-close shots they kept putting on the big screen, it definitely looked real. From the markings on the back of the board I think he probably had it professionally done at a Kinkos or Staples or something. Hopefully he'll drop by sometime and let us know the details.

Free Barry Bonds

by thejew4u on Apr 2, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, of course Red didn't

"photoshop" it, lol. I thought the guy who took the picture might have enlarged it.

But good to know it's real. Awesome.

by redwolf75 on Apr 2, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He took it to Kinkos

it measures three feet by two feet. Could've had it up to 5x3 but decided that was too cumbersome.

by Jeff on Apr 2, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lineup I could root for

Ichiro (cf)
Betancourt (ss)
Bonds (lf)
Beltre (3rd)
Ibanez (1st)
Kenji (c)
Wilkerson (rf)
Vidro (dh)
Lopez (2nd)

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta DH Bonds

Reed plays left until Wlad is ready.

by JI on Apr 2, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's fine with me

Dump Vidro and plug Reed in... then swap Lopez and Reed in the lineup.

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather keep Loafie in the 2 spot.

I want to see him get an extended try there one last time before I lose all hope in him.

by Matthew on Apr 2, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'd probably move Wilkerson to first though

because Ibanez has hardly played there

by JI on Apr 2, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilk to 1B

Ibanez to RF, someone with an iota of mobility to LF

by BrianL on Apr 2, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd go with

Ichiro (CF)
Lopez (2B)
Bonds (DH)
Beltre (3B)
Ibanez (LF)
Johjima (C)
Turbo (1B)
Balentien (RF)
Bentacourt (SS)

Lopez is not as good a hitter compared to Bentacourt, so stick him infront of Barry so he sees nothing but fastballs.

by IceStormV1 on Apr 2, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that scenario, I'm actually happy to see Slampig

if only because it means I don't have to see Richie.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atleast Slampig

puts the ball in play

by IceStormV1 on Apr 2, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sexson's D

2 prefaces:
-I was at the game and didn't have the best angle of view for some of these plays.
-Hi, dead horse. I brought an aluminum bat today, so I wouldn't accidentally crack the wooden one on a stubborn rib.

I'm surprised I haven't seen any comments about how awful Sexson's defense was in the 8th. His jump on that first ground ball (that he dove for) was horrid. His footwork on the error was even worse. EOF wasn't looking his sharpest, but in his defense those 2 hits should both have been easy outs. There was another play - the one where he tried to get the 3-unassisted and dove for 1st unsuccessfully - where he got an abysmal (I'm running out of adjectives here) jump on the ball. Not only did Sexson tank at the plate last night, he gave this one away in the field. On the extremely off chance there's anyone out there who isn't yet a disbeliever, I'd put last night's game as Exhibit A for dropping his ass before tonight's game. Small sample size be damned... It's not like he's making the right moves and just not pulling off that something extra. His mechanics are shot to hell.

Free Barry Bonds

by thejew4u on Apr 2, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By now, it sort of goes without saying

that his defense is bad regardless of the inning or situation.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come to think of it

bad would be a remarkable upgrade.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

but the high bouncer wasn't his fault... by the time the ball came down, diving toward first was his only option... the pitcher wasn't covering.

by johnbai on Apr 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't u miss also in the 8th, I believe

when his first step on a ground ball towards the hole was towards the line..the man stepped the wrong way! how is that possible?!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, even I saw that was going for the hole off the bat, I was shocked when he moved to his left.

Because I knew the ball was going in the hole before Richie did. Me for 1st!

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you'd still have to hi...

oh wait. Never mind.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Apr 2, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other news:

World Series favorite Detroit Tigers is about to lose two straight to KC.

Maybe our offense caught whatever the Detroit offense caught. :-/

by Wilder. on Apr 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Verlander's not even that good. Way overrated.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Verlander is good.

Overrated? A touch. But still very good.

by Matthew on Apr 2, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4.39 tRA, 4.44 tRA*

He's a #2 starter maybe (at best), but not an ace despite his 100 MPH stuff. Still got potential to improve but as it stands, he's not an ace by any means.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is cheats.

He keeps using those ridiculous stats to rate his performance.

by Wilder. on Apr 2, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not regressing!!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That article is truly facsinating,

I think because I don't believe that sabermetrics were ever really intended to be used by players as opposed to by GMs and the guys putting teams together. On the one level, it makes sense, because as we've seen with Bannister it's just further reinforced the concept that he needs to pitch ahead in the count to be successful.

On the other hand though, I could easily see this negatively affecting a pitcher in terms of confidence - I can't see a guy doing well if he's say, expecting himself to regress to the mean of the BABIP curve.

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their announcers said something about this

on opening day. I'm almost positive it had to do with Sheffield and Ordonez being veterans and more comfortable with the AL.

The poster formerly known as Matt.

by bluemax on Apr 2, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching Magglio dramatically regress to the mean

Is really something I suggest. What a blast.

by cwel87 on Apr 2, 2008 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"By the diving Cabrera!"

Get used to saying that, Tigers announcers.

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey look it's Yorman Bazardo

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by BrettJMiller on Apr 2, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's Bazar...crazy

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one thing to say about this season so far:

Small sample size.

Don't get too worked up just yet.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our offense is pretty bad

I'm afraid to see the large sample size

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too if I'm honest

But I'm willing to wait until it gets there.

by Graham on Apr 2, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This morning fucking sucked.

Last night really fucking hurt. To go up in the 8th and then see a cockpunch at fucking 6.15AM when you have to get up at 11.30AM [off work this week so I can watch baseball] is very painful.

And to top it all, this game was shown on a PPV channel here in the UK and my brother in law and father said that they wanted to watch it with me today. But I couldn't bare to watch a replay of the bullshit, so I missed the chance to introduce the game to others [believe me, it's bloody hard work when no one you know shares the same main interest as you].

I am still fucking hurting from that bullshit yesterday. I need to see some cool shit in tonight's game to make up for what happened. :(

And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...

by EnglishMariner on Apr 2, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DON'T MENTION THAT MAN'S NAME HE IS DEAD TO ME.

And to think, I could have chosen to support the Yankees or Red Sox...

by EnglishMariner on Apr 2, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd just drop it anyway

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by pdb on Apr 2, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hah

there's a bad joke here about swinging and missing, but I'll spare you

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had great morning fucking today

really helped me get over yesterday

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know,

asking questions like this is a good way to hear things you don't really want to hear, particularly on a baseball blog.

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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