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Evan Longoria Signs 9(!) Year Deal

No, I'm not joking. Evan Longoria and the Rays agreed to a 9-year deal today. The deal buys out all of his arbitration years at a guaranteed $17.5 million and then there are three team option years with the potential maximum value of the entire contract at $44 million.

This is a nutso trend.

The Mariners would be wise to stop pussyfooting around and  get Felix locked up as soon as possible.

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Good deal for the rays I guess

unless he gets injured.
I don’t really see him sucking, but you never know, Bobby Crosby, Khalil Greene, etc.

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by LantermanC on Apr 18, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Even so,

players of Crosby and Greene’s caliber still may be making 5 mil a year by the time 2014 rolls around.

I like this deal, barring career ending injuries.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 18, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose, but the first 4 or so years are "free"

So it’ s almost like payign 8 or 9 million for them in the end.

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by LantermanC on Apr 18, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Err, Khalil Greene is a good player

grossly underrated due to his homepark. He a league average hitter or thereabouts who plays good D at SS.

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by rfloh on Apr 18, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously? Why?

I really hate long-term contracts.

by Liebkartoffel on Apr 18, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Unless it's a pitcher

it’s a reasonable thing to do, as long as the dollars aren’t ridiculous – and 9/44 will be dirt cheap if Longoria pans out to be the player he’s supposed to be.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Moses

Baseball taking after the NHL?

I guess if you’re going to give out a contract like this, Longoria’s as safe as it gets.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 18, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Longoria = Ovechkin?

Because I’m down with that.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 18, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than Stamkos at least

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nine years?!? Holy turdlogs Batman!

That’s just the height of too-mucherey….

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't see what's wrong with this.

It involves team options, it’s not much of a risk, and you have potentially a great player for less than 5 million a year. I suppose they had him on arbitration but I still don’t think it’s THAT bad.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 18, 2008 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

The genius of the deal

is that the Rays are only on the hook for $17 million through the 2013 season (his age 27 season). The first team option is for 2014 (age 28), his last year of arbitration eligibility, and then the second team option is for 2015 and 2016, which would be his first two years of free agency (age 29 and 30).

So for $3 million than the M’s are paying Sexson this year, the Rays locked up Longoria through his age 27 season and options on his age 28-30 seasons for less than $9 million per season.

by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Per the ESPN article

he is not eligible for free agency until after 2014—a result of the Rays keeping him in the minors for two weeks this year.

by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, he's free 2008-2010,

Arb for 2011-2014, the would have been a free agent before the start of the 2015 season.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 18, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good lord

If you assume he’s a lock to be a productive everyday player over his career, that is an insane bargain. Longoria must have doubts about his chances at a long career if he’s willing to take that deal.

I mean, I’m not sure Felix signs a deal like this, especially given he’s actually played for 2+ seasons and has shown some capability of being a top player at his position.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't think he has doubts about his career

just the opposite, actually – 9 years’ security, not having to worry about arb/free agency and all that stuff is probably pretty enticing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but some guys don't care about that

as much as they care about stability and knowing they’ll be in one place for a while.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, then he should've signed a no-trade clause

because I don’t think 9 years means he’ll be in one place…

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by LantermanC on Apr 18, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Risk of injury

Longoria’s career could end tomorrow if he got beaned in the head, and the Rays would owe him nothing past this year’s league minimum salary. He would make league minimum through 2010 even if he did not get hurt. He just guaranteed himself $17 million.

by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody's career could end tomorrow

Most careers don’t end that quickly. That’s akin to getting on a plane and fearing a plane crash.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like me!

Everyone is allowed 1 irrational fear.

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by Aaron Campeau on Apr 18, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

But planes don't crash

If players as a group shared this fear, we’d see a lot more deals like this with rookies.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Planes don't crash? What?

Planes crash often. Just not in the US.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good businesses don't kill their customers

so no matter how much you read/hear about mass groundings, financial woes, or whatever else, you should believe that no US airline will fly a plane that’s not airworthy. There are isolated problems, sure, but US airlines are really good at general maintenance.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was incomplete

Plane don’t crash consistently enough for it to be a rational fear. Being in a plane crash is about as expected as winning the lottery.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

My expectations of being in a plane crash

Are much higher than my expectations of winning the lottery

by Graham MacAree on Apr 18, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, buy more Lotto tickets anyway...

Because you can actually still die in a plane crash even if you never fly (since a plane could, you know, crash into your place of occupation or residence, whether you’re in a flying machine or not (see 9/11, Kathleen Caronna). However, you can’t win the Lotto if you don’t buy tickets (or at least ‘acquire’ one, whether through legal or illegal means)...

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by PositivePaul on Apr 18, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fear is, by definition, not rational

Not to derail this whole thing to talk about the psychology of fear, but that’s a distinction that has to be made.

In a related note, I have a fear that I will never win the lottery.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

and why wouldn't you fear a plane crash?

plane crashes are nearly universally fatal. I don’t fear every plane I board will crash, but I still fear it happening.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I can't control whether it crashes or not

I don’t worry about that which I cannot control.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't worry about the Mariners.

Bavasi’s job is to worry about the mariners. My job is to consume the product and bitch about it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true, but think of it as an outcomes matrix

If he signs the deal, and has a successful career, he’s left a lot of $$ on the table, but has $44 mil
If he signs the deal, and gets injured early on, he’s guaranteed $44 mil that he wouldn’t have gotten otherwise
If he doesn’t sign the deal, and has a successful career, he earns a ton of $$
If he doesn’t sign the deal, and gets injured early on, he’ll net only a couple of million for his career

So, the only outcome that leaves him without a huge nest egg to retire on involves not signing the deal. Signing the deal guarantees he’ll be set for life.

Even if there’s only a 0.1% chance of him suffering a career ending injury early on, it’s still a smart move.

by saltydog75 on Apr 18, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's not guaranteed 44M

and he’s not leaving tons of money on the table

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

You don’t envision a scenario where Longoria’s late 20’s are worth $15 million a year on the open market?

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

he'll still get that money

when he reaches FA. You have to look at his total career path if you want to make an economic argument.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know he will

I’m saying the possibility was there to bide his time rather than sign, and start making that money sooner than he will given the scope of this deal. See below.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

how much money?

If longoria performed like say Eric Chavez over his first 9 years, how much money do you think he’s missing out on? (current value only)

First three years are TB controlled, so he gets 1.5M.
Next 4 are arb-years, probably rounds out to 8M/year on average? so 32M,
then first two years of FA, call it 14M per for another 28M.

All told 62.5M compared to the 44M he will get under this deal. Big whoop considering he’ll then proceed to sign a 6/90M contract.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

To wit, he doesn't have to do it for 9 years

Only about 4, maybe 5… because that’s when the team and his agent will probably start talking extension. Many teams do buy out arb years once they see they have a top talent. If he’s money over those 4-5 years, he locks up a guaranteed monster deal, and then it hardly matters what he does over the next 4-5.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is no incentive for a team to sign a player to a 4 year deal

When they are in their first two weeks of ML service time. That would be crazy.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 18, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

I’m talking about Longoria giving the team 4-5 good years of service at the standard rate, and THEN locking up a 7/$Texas deal.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

But there is every chance he won't be a perennial All-Star

He could get injured, he could be not as good as he seemed, etc etc etc. This is about providing Longoria with $17.5m of security, and in return he’s giving them 2 years of free agency at a discount.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 18, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

If only every player thought of things that way

Maybe we wouldn’t see so many ridiculous contracts.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

What

Then why do we see players reach free agency?

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

because there's that pesky delay

of six years between a trend starting and players reaching free agency?

Players are still going to go to free agency, but many many young players have signed arb buy out contracts over the last few years.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, we can agree this is a recent trend

FWIW I hope this is a trend that proliferates and continues.

And I’m so sure Felix jumps on the bandwagon unless he is offered elite-SP money.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Felix wants a deal

The Ms want a deal.

They’ll eventually give him something good.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I like the idea someone mentioned the other day

Give him a blank check and say, “Felix, write any number and I will pay it.”

I am more and more nervous every day that we don’t have him signed to a lifetime contract.

by thenatural on Apr 18, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Longoria has guaranteed he'll be set for life

... the difference between making almost nothing vs $44 million, guaranteed, is far more than the difference between making $44 million and $100-$200 million.

By signing the deal, he’s eliminating all risk. If he didn’t, and went year to year, one horrible injury could wipe out all of his career earning potential (hence the “almost nothing”). What more is the extra hundreds of millions going to buy him, that $44 million won’t? Unless he has some need to live a ridiculously opulent lifestyle, which he clearly doesn’t (based on his signing of the deal).

Smart, unlike so many players these days. $44 million is a nice chunk of change to be guaranteed.

by saltydog75 on Apr 18, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's true, I didn't read closely enough

... but $17.5 million is still a substantial upgrade over the several hundred thousand he’s guaranteed to make (minus his signing bonus) without the deal.

by saltydog75 on Apr 18, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

and it'll be enough to buy him a face in any event

I just looked at the rotoworld link, and I’m amazed he’s been able to accomplish what he has given his obvious physical shortcomings.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

???

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

his rotoworld page has no picture

just a drawing of a blank face with a baseball cap on it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA!!

That’s funny, I don’t care who ya are.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still, would you sign a contract to stay with your employer for nine years?

I don’t think I’d want to make that kind of commitment.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

especially considering it's a contract on both ends

which means I could do jackshit for the next 6 years and still get paid a ridiculous amount of money

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I'm a contractor.

and side note: monster.com is the craigslist personals of job hunting sites.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to be. I do accounting now.

Going back to the old trade is always on my mind though.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

hows the life?

I’m intrigued but worried about stability. Ideally I’d like to be able to take 9-month contracts and earn enough to only work part-time the other 3 months and travel. Also, telecommuting would be nice.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to telecommute when your a contractor.

Unless I’m talking about a different kind of contractor (hammers, nails, wood).

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

programming contracts is what I'm talking about

there’s already no reason for me to come to an office everyday.

by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a good friend who does this as a technical writer

The life is every bit as awesome as you would imagine it to be.

by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I used to do

I didn’t telecommute, but I always made a point of not working one or two months a year. I didn’t always travel, but it was nice to have that kind of time. I work year-round now that I bought a house, but I do try to take a couple weeks off between assignments. It’s nice. Also nice is the whole “never having to go to routine team meetings” thing, and being able to leave an hour early if I want without getting approval.

Contracting is the shit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not for everyone

because either way there’s sacrifices, and not as much stability as a “real” job. You either have to be a 1099 or a W2 contractor – as a 1099, you make a metric fuckton of money, but you have to pay all your own taxes, FICA, and insurance, so you have to be really good at saving money for something that’s not a big screen TV or trip to Europe. As a W2, you make less money but your agency does the bookkeeping and, and this is why I’m a W2, finds jobs for you.

There’s nothing more annoying than knowing a contract is ending and having to hustle for work while you’re still working; the big fat slice that my agency takes off the top is worth it in the time savings from that alone.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn't it dreamy?

All these idealistic kids still in college have no idea how Dunder Mifflin-y their lives will be in just a few short years.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh oh, we made Matthew angry.

We won’t like him when he’s angry.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're gonna be one pissed off dude when you finish school then.

I recommend starting to smoke crack now.

I like midgets more than I should.

by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the same boat

work sucks

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 18, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Try doing what I'm doing...

Go back to school in an MD/PhD program.

Lots of school. You don’t even have to think about life with no school, because you’re in the program for 7-8 years! Yay?

  • cries silently in a corner *
  • by GhettoBear04 on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

    This is not to say it's bad

    it’s just not going to be what you thought you went to college for.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

    I enjoy the hell out of my job

    And they pay me more than I’m worth.
    You’re right – it’s not what I thought I went to college for, but then, my ideas of what I wanted work to be when I was in college were all batshit insane. I’m really glad things didn’t exactly go to plan.

    Sorry, we’ve got all these youngsters around and I just wanted to say it’s not all broken dreams and zombie-stumbling through hell.

    by marc w on Apr 18, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I both love and hate my job.

    I enjoy what I do, but there are the painful times where I must look a customer in the eye and tell them I failed. That is never fun.

    The user formerly known as Sec 108.

    by Sec 108 on Apr 18, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Well, I have at least found

    that saying I failed saves my butt more often than trying to blame others.

    Now that I think about it, my day job is very similar to my marriage.

    The user formerly known as Sec 108.

    by Sec 108 on Apr 18, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I used to LOVE my job.

    Now, not so much. It’s amazing what happens when the government goes back to being the government, rather than the efficient, award-winning team we were 3-4 years ago…

    Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

    by PositivePaul on Apr 18, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I'm sorry, what? I was sleeping at my desk.

    I hear ya though.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Which is exactly why

    I’m going to get paid to be shot at. Far more stimulating intellectually, not to mention physically, to stalk human prey and avoid detection while preying upon terrorists with an accurized battle rifle.

    I’d much rather enjoy my job and live a modest life than enjoy a luxuriant settlement while working an unfulfilling job. I’m working minimum wage right now rather than making ~55K a year in a union construction job I was offered solely because I don’t want to commit to a job that might bore me.

    It puzzles me why more people don’t feel this way. Money is great, but your time is your life. When you have 40 hours a week taken from you, that’s a serious part of your life. Add another 5 to 10 hours in preparations for work, overtime, commute et cetera and that job basically IS your life. Why take money and a shitty job over a job you can find satisfaction and stimulation in, but for a lesser paycheck? It’s your life…

    by spittle8 on Apr 19, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Be thankful you have 10s of millions of dollars

    and dozens of ladies lining up to be your trophy wife.

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

    not to mention that if turns out to be good enough

    to miss out on the 20M or so he left on the table by not going year-to-year, he’ll still get a ridiculously huge contract after this one. You’re talking about potentially leaving $20 or so M on the table in a career that will net you 150M+

    by Matthew on Apr 18, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Now

    This is not to say that the Rays shouldn’t have made this deal, that this isn’t more than enough money for Longoria from his perspective, and that I don’t respect and appreciate the fact that he took a long term deal at potentially below market value that helps keep his team’s payroll free to lock up other talent.

    I’m just surprised, given we live in a world where most players and their agents try to milk every dollar they can from a team, that Longoria took a sizable but potentially below-market deal for such a long term.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

    The agent here has an incentive to sign now

    because (1) Longoria (and by extension, the agent) otherwise gets paid next to nothing for three more years and (2) the agent may no longer be in Longoria’s employ three years from now when Longoria would otherwise start to make real money.

    by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

    That's assuming

    a) the agent believes Longoria could turn him over in the next 2-3 years and
    b) the deal was mainly their idea

    Then, yeah, it makes sense. If TB proposed this using your point as verbal leverage, then that’s absolutely cunning and brilliant manipulation.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Players and agents are generally not long-term relationships anymore.

    Didn’t you see Jerry Maguire?

    Seriously, from the agent’s point of view, the standard operating procedure for pre-arbitration players is to get a long-term contract signed as soon as possible. Felix’s agent wanted a long-term deal after his first season.

    by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Do agents get paid yearly like players

    or is it all frontloaded, since it comes out of the player’s pocket and not the contract?

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

    The general practice is that the agent who negotiates the deal

    gets paid his percentage throughout the life of the contract, just as the player does. So if Longoria gets a new agent next year, his old agent still gets his percentage throughout the term of the contract.

    by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Felix could have gotten one

    From what I hear, he’s being a little more demanding than Longoria on the terms.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Is this a guess or from snippets you hear from your sources?

    Because dear lord if theres one person on this team we should just be up front and pay its Felix.

    by Fett42 on Apr 18, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

    If they didn't want pay A-Rod

    I don’t expect them to go out of their way to pay Felix.

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

    No idea

    but if/when they get Felix locked up they’ll sign him through at least one year of FA.

    by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 18, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

    This is nutty

    it’s something I’d do on Baseball Mogul, and when you think about it the only way the Rays get screwed is if Longoria completely flames out.

    I’m honestly curious as to why he’d sign this.

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

    Live boy or dead girl?

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Both perhaps?

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

    It really, really, really depends on the situation.

    SInce I don’t know what the situation is exactly, I don’t want to commit myself to any particular stance or position.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Use your imaginiation

    Eva Longoria + 1 Dead Girl + 1 Live Boy + scandalous context = x

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

    uh oh

    I justt shitted on the good thread

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Shat.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Sharted?

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

    shite-ed

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

    I'll settle for being in the same room

    then we can go from there.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Eva's room

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Well... Okay...

    But NO FUNNY STUFF.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

    It'll be all serious business

    it’s business, it’s business time.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

    I'm not sure I like the sound of that.

    How about I just stay outside until your done handling your bidness.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

    You should like the sound of that

    it was a FoTC reference.

    But yeah, you should probably stay outside. Just to be safe.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

    When it’s with me, you only need two minutes, girl ‘Cause I’m so intense

    the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

    by Eyebrows on Apr 18, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Holy crap that's funny!

    I’ve never seen that before, so I missed the reference, but thanks for the link!

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

    You've never seen Flight Of The Conchords?

    It’s on DVD now, you have no excuse. Go get it and watch it. It’s all that funny.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I've never seen that one.

    I catch the show occasionally, but it’s usually when I come home from a night out, so I’m not always that coherent.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

    At Longoria's age

    the Rays probably can insure the contract too.

    by G_ on Apr 18, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Holy shit.

    Give Felix 10/75, before more young players start getting these big long term deals

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    by BrettJMiller on Apr 18, 2008 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

    I don't think that's gonna be enough

    I mean, shit, Silva’s getting $12 million per.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

    obligatory dyslexia joke

    what’s this I hear about eva longoria singing?

    I never said it was a good joke.

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    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

    I've been holding off on that same joke all thread.

    I’m glad someone posted it before I couldn’t resist any longer.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

    It was all I could do to wait this long

    but I don’t want to become the “I shit on threads as soon as they’re posted” guy. At least not yet.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

    I'm terribly bored today, so I'll be fighting the urge to be that guy all day.

    At least until I can escape the office tonight.

    I like midgets more than I should.

    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Only shit on the stupid threads

    and you’ll be fine.

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Can I shit on stupid people too?

    I have some targets picked out already…

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    by Thingray on Apr 18, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

    the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

    by Eyebrows on Apr 18, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

    well done

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Thank god I just watched Spinal Tap last night

    because otherwise, “It’s such a fine line between stupid and clever” wouldn’t have been in the forefront of my brain.

    I’ve seen that movie about 150 times, and I cannot envision a scenario where Spinal Tap ceases to be funny.

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    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Agreed.

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Genius

    The pause and blank stare between “why don’t you just make 10 the top and make 10 louder” and “these go to 11” is the best example of absolute genius comic timing I can come up with.

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    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

    The timing on "Lick My Love Pump"

    is swell as well

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Absolutely.

    It’s sort of….Mach.

    Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Is anyone else really scared

    that Felix is going to end up in a Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, or gulp Angels jersey after 2011?

    Get him signed long-term Bill…with free-agent team option years…

    by redwolf75 on Apr 18, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

    Pick the better response:

    EITHER

    A. We must not talk about these things

    or

    B. FELIX HAS NOT PROVEN ANYTHING HE IS WEEK MENTALLY AND WILL NEVER BECOME AN ACE BECAUSAE HE IS OVERRATED DONT WASTE YOU MONEY ON THIS UNAMERICAN PRE-MADONNA

    Barry Bonds died for you sins.

    by JI on Apr 18, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Anyone else remember/know what Magic Johnson signed for?

    I believe it was 20 years 20 million, or 40 million. Somethign like that. I’m too young to “remember” but I remember reading about it.

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    by LantermanC on Apr 18, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

    25/25

    and, fun fact, that deal would have expired next year had he not restructured it in 1988. Good God I’m old.

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    by pdb on Apr 18, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

    They signed him to a 9! year deal!?

    Jesus, it’ll be …. [carry the one]... 364888 AD before he’s a free agent! That’s really hoping for some career longevity on Tampa Bay’s part.

    the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

    by Eyebrows on Apr 18, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

    Holy shit I didn't see that

    Well played. Thanks for the Honors Algebra flashbacks.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

    The difference between my honors algebra and everyone else’s regular algebra was that I got to refer to my algebra as honors algebra.

    by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 18, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

    My Honors Algebra is what everyone else's regular Algebra should've been

    It’s just that the Honors instructors actually tried, and the students actually kinda sorta gave a shit about learning it.

    by Gomez on Apr 18, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Taking it one step further

    If the contract runs the full 362880 years and $44 million, he’ll only be making $121.25 a year, or $0.75 a game. Holy shit he needs to fire that agent. That’s not only below MLB minimum salary, but way below Florida’s minimum wage ($6.79 per hour). And don’t even get me started on the value of that contract after hundreds of thousands of years of inflation!

    In conclusion, a total steal for the Rays.

    the other angels fan [formerly newlocal]

    by Eyebrows on Apr 18, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

    This probably makes him amazing trade bait too

    if they ever have reason to get rid of him.

    ...and now I'm here

    by CapSea on Apr 18, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

    And if it doesn't, here's Longoria's POV of the deal in 2017:

    “The Rays had never signed anyone to such a long contract, and they weren’t a team to throw around money. The first night after I signed the contract, they contacted me and said, ‘Good night, Evan, sleep tight. We’ll most likely trade you in the morning.” 9 years they said that, ‘Good night, Evan, sleep tight. We’ll most likely trade you in the morning.” During this time, I was learning from the best players of the organization, mastering fielding, batting, and I even learned to pitch a little bit. Finally, in the ninth year, the Rays GM pulled me aside and said, ‘I’m going to let you in on a little secret. We are not the real baseball team in Tampa Bay. You see, the Devil Rays have been out of the league since 2007. They passed the team onto us, the Rays, and soon, when we grow old, we will pass the team onto the Tampa Rays.’

    Eh… the reference worked at first…

    by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Apr 18, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Longoria has 20 major league at bats.

    The next logical step is signing these guys to long term deals when they are still prospects in AAA.

    Felix Hernandez may be The King, but Justin Upton is a GOD.

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    by Goose on Apr 18, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

    That sounds contradictory

    If you think it’s such a nutso trend, why are you suggesting the M’s follow it?

    by nathaniel dawson on Apr 19, 2008 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

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