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Playing the Angels these last few nights, something's felt off. They're still good, and they remain a team I'd like to beat into the ground, but it seems to me that they're missing something, something that previously made the Angels the Angels, the team I found myself hating more than the Yankees, the team that first spurred me to foster a murderous dislike of everything north of my house and south of LA. Playing them just didn't feel the same, and for the longest time until a few minutes ago I couldn't put my finger on what was different.
Orlando Cabrera.
As an Angel, Cabrera was everything that drove me insane. He always made contact, he'd fight off enough pitches to have those really long annoying at bats, he ran fast enough to beat out infield grounders, he'd hit bloopers into the outfield because he doesn't have any power, he'd make flashy plays with the glove, he beat the hell out of the Mariners, and he had that Wizard of OC nickname that made me want to water my lawn with the blood from Steve Physioc's wrists. Plus, just for good measure, he had the lingering stench of being a folk hero for the Red Sox. In short, with Darin Erstad and David Eckstein having long since moved on, Cabrera became the face of everything I hated about that team. For three long years, he practically took up residence under my skin.
Then they traded him for a pile of crap. And while guys like Chone Figgins and Francisco Rodriguez still make me crazy, it just isn't the same. With Willits on the bench, there's no regular capable of following in Cabrera's stupid footsteps. The Angels traded away a big part of their obnoxious identity, and all they have to show for it is a guy who couldn't even strike out Richie Sexson.
I like the new Angels.
Biggest Contribution: Richie Sexson, +22.8%
Biggest Suckfest: Brad Wilkerson, -7.7%
Most Important AB: Sexson funk blast, +26.4%
Most Important Pitch: Kotchman homer, -22.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -1.4%
Total Contribution by Hitters: +45.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +6.0%
(What is this chart?)
I'll be perfectly honest - while I always get up for games between the M's and Angels, I was annoyed by the unusual 6:10 scheduled first pitch. I suppose it's good because it means I get to go to sleep an hour earlier, but there was some exciting hockey on TV this afternoon, and having to turn it off so I could watch Carlos Silva pitch to contact kind of got on my nerves. Felix Day would be one thing, but all Silva has going for him in terms of entertainment is his quick tempo, and it says something about a pitcher when fans most appreciate how little time they have to spend watching him.
Nevertheless, I got settled into my chair in plenty of time to be reminded that today was JJ Putz Soul Patch Night at the ballpark. What with JJ presently being clean-shaven and injured, this promotion couldn't possibly have had worse timing. It wasn't quite as bad as Chicago's Michael Barrett Bobblehead and Jersey nights last year after trading Barrett to San Diego, but you'd think they could've rescheduled or told JJ not to shave or something.
The Angels very quickly went down in order in the top of the first - with Silva getting a swinging strike from Vlad Guerrero of all people - and as we went to the bottom half and FSN introduced their starting defense, I found myself overcome with delight. For some reason I hadn't put this together before when filling in the LAnaheim lineup, but in a positively Hargrovian maneuver, Mike Scioscia had chosen to DH Torii Hunter with a contact flyballer on the mound to make space in the outfield for Garret Anderson. I understand that it's part of a rotation, since the Angels have four outfielders who all want to play defense, but a smart manager ought to pick his spots. DH Hunter when Saunders is on the mound or something. Don't play a corner duo of Anderson/Guerrero when you know that Garland's going to allow at least like 25 balls in play. That's a good way to fail.
It didn't take long to pay off. After Jose Lopez reached base on a Kendrick fumble, Raul Ibanez took an outside fastball deep to center field, clearing the heads of the outfielders and taking so long to get recovered and returned to the cutoff man that Raul found himself standing on third with an RBI triple. That the man has at least average speed only makes his defense all the more humiliating, but it's hard to complain too much about a guy's pathetic reads and range when he's hitting like Raul is these days. I've complained a few times about his tendency to try and pull the outside fastball to right field, but here he took what the pitch gave him and turned it into a super result.
Adrian Beltre followed with an infield pop-out. This got me thinking. In chemistry, you see a lot of talk about reaction rates. Everyone's always curious about how and why a reaction proceeds at a certain pace. Given a reaction X + Y --> Z, the rate equation can be written as r = k [X]^m [Y]^n, where r is the rate, k is the rate constant, [X] and [Y] are the concentrations of reactants X and Y, and m and n are exponents that depend on the reaction order.
I'll try to make this simpler. Most reactions are either Zero Order, First Order, or Second Order. A Zero Order reaction equation can be written as r = k, as the rate depends only on the constant and not at all on the reactant concentrations. A First Order reaction equation can be written as r = k[X], where the rate depends on the constant and the concentration of one of the reactants, but not the other. And a Second Order reaction equation can be written as r = k[X][Y], where the rate depends on the constant and the concentrations of both reactants.
Now let's put this in baseball terms and assign [X] to Adrian Beltre, [Y] to the pitcher, and r to the result of an at bat. Beltre's pop-out against Garland told me something: all Adrian Beltre at bats are First Order reactions. That is, whenever Beltre comes to the plate, r = k[X]. The identity of the pitcher doesn't make the slightest difference. If Beltre's in one of his grooves, he'll hit anything and everything 400 feet. And if Beltre's in one of those spells where he swings at pitches above his eyes and below his feet, then he can make any pitcher look successful. Today, in the first inning, it didn't matter that Beltre was facing someone as awful as Jon Garland. He might as well have been facing King Felix himself. Beltre was determined to make an out, and when it comes to Adrian Beltre it's just entirely out of the pitcher's hands.
I swear that didn't take nearly as long to think about in my head.
That's when Jose Vidro stepped up and drove in a runner from third with two down, which is one of those things that causes completely opposite reactions in the two dugouts. For the Mariners, it provided a psychological lift after Beltre's failure to hit the ball 100 feet. For the Angels, it was a devastating letdown after a big boost. It's a little like how in hockey you never want to allow a goal late in the period. You're so close to the end that you're already focused on going into the dressing room with the current score, and giving the opponent another one in the final minute is just an emotional kick in the face. After Beltre popped out, I'm sure the Angels were thinking they'd avoided the damage. But Vidro dealt them a blow by somehow lining a low-away changeup that was practically in the dirt over Kendrick's head at second.
Trailing 2-0, the Angels attempted to mount a rally in the next half-inning. Casey Kotchman drilled a two-out double to left and Kendrick followed with a line drive base hit into center, but where I could've sworn that Kotchman had rounded third like two or three seconds before Ichiro even got to the ball, Ichiro came up throwing and fired a heat-seeking missile straight to Kenji's glove to get Kotchman at home by the slimmest of margins. I've said before that I think Ichiro's arm is overrated, but where I do believe that his accuracy is inconsistent, his strength is borderline unparalleled, and when he aims a throw spot-on as he did here he can do things that few others can. That was one of the top five throws of Ichiro's Seattle career, and it stopped a potential big inning in its tracks.
LAnaheim got back at it again in the third, but this time they weren't done in by the defense so much as they were done in by themselves. With two on and no out, Chone Figgins bounced a fielder's choice to Richie Sexson, and Gary Matthews Jr followed with a classic 4-6-3 to end the inning. Life experience had taught me to be absolutely terrified by the prospect of having Figgins and Matthews at the plate against the Mariners, so I'm still not entirely comfortable accepting the actual outcome, but I'll work my way through it.
Of note: the top of the third also featured (A) Carlos Silva throwing a pitch between Erick Aybar's legs, and (B) Aybar proceeding to hit a groundball single up the middle that, again, 2005 Yuni turns into a double play. This inning was weird.
All kinds of bad things happened in the bottom half. Most notably, Raul Ibanez did two things that I hate when he pulled a 3-0 outside fastball to second base, and later on Richie Sexson popped up with the bases loaded. That half-inning was the complete opposite of Friday's sixth inning in which the same lineup used its newfound plate discipline to wear the crap out of Jered Weaver. It served to remind me that I'm still watching the Mariners, and that all this exciting improved approach stuff could go away as quickly as it appeared. Enjoy it while it lasts; I fear it may be fleeting.
Then Carlos Silva made a mistake and the game was tied. Really, in about 30 minutes the entire game went south at the drop of a hat. The Mariners blew a golden opportunity to pad their lead, Silva threw a bad pitch to a good hitter, Ichiro grounded into a double play, and the Angels went ahead 3-2. The go-ahead run scored on another classic 4-6-3 off the bat of Gary Matthews Jr, which is always kind of a weird feeling; you're happy about the double play, but you're sad that you're losing because of it, so you're left just sitting there with a blank gaze and your emotions canceling each other out. I imagine Giants fans will probably get this one quite a bit.
Down 3-2 halfway through the game, the Mariners again found themselves having to come back against the Angels. The rally didn't get off to the most inspiring start, but a pair of two-out line drives to left field tied things up, thanks in part to Anderson's nagging case of old. And then Richie Sexson stepped up and delivered what I think everybody hopes will be the hit that turns his fan support around on a dime. Ahead 2-1 but having just swung through a fastball at the belt, Sexson used the same swing he always uses to hit home runs to send a fastball over the outer half way back into center. Matthews gave chase but ran out of room, and while I realize that catching up with a Jon Garland fastball isn't the most convincing proof that Richie's bat speed is still okay, it was an absolutely huge moment that should buy Richie a lot of time to win people back over for good. I figure he bought himself at least two or three boo-less games with that bomb.
In a flash, all the mounting nastiness from the middle innings undid itself. The Mariners seized the lead, the Angels blew a golden opportunity to get right back in the game, and the M's took advantage of Matthews overrunning an Ichiro groundball to tack on another run. Ahead 6-3 with the bases loaded, things could've gotten really out of hand against Darren O'Day, but another First Order strikeout by Beltre and a fly out by Vidro kept the Angels hanging around.
Not that they could do anything about it, because after Figgins led off the seventh with a base hit, Matthews bounced into his third classic 4-6-3 of the day. In all, he grounded out once to Sexson, thrice to Lopez, and once to the pitcher Green on a groundball that was headed for Lopez before Green's interference. Throw in the error and you've got a cumulative WPA of -29.8%. His first double play was the most damaging, but all three of them came in situations that could've gotten the Angels going. Gary Matthews Jr is the biggest reason the Mariners won this game.
Not much happened for a little while after the third Matthews double play, as the Angels seemed to give up and the Mariners seemed to be content. But in the bottom of the eighth, just so Scioscia and the rest of the LAnaheim roster wouldn't have any doubt as to who was most responsible for kicking their ass, Raul Ibanez got an outside fastball from Jason Bulger and - wait for it - took it the other way. I've never really thought this about Ibanez before, but you have to have some incredible bat speed to go the other way and clear Safeco's left field fence. That just isn't something that many people have done. Especially Ibanez. It was a hard fastball, so I suspect the velocity contributed to the distance, but even so, I couldn't believe how far that thing soared. Raul deserves every bit of his current 1.196 OPS. He's just beating the shit out of the ball.
Even though Silva had only thrown 98 pitches, Sean Green came in to close things out in the ninth. This was Green's seventh appearance. Cha Baek has one. Personally, I think with an 8-3 lead you can safely call it a mop-up situation and give some work to Baek or O'Flaherty, who could probably use it. But McLaren disagreed and let Green throw 31 pitches before recording the final out on a groundball comebacker. The last pitch was the ninth of an at bat against Gary Matthews Jr, and as Green threw the ball to Sexson to finish things off, he sighed and rolled his eyes, sending a message to Matthews that hey I'd appreciate it if next time you weren't so annoying.
And that was it. The Mariners have now won three of their first four series, and tomorrow turn to the newer half of their 1-2 punch to try and finish off the sweep. I can think of few better ways to spend a Sunday.
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Yeah, no, we're not ever going to do this
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one warning then a suspension for this crap lol
I hate the whole first thing.
by phil333 on Apr 13, 2008 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John McLaren is retarded
I can't believe that he actually used Green instead of Baek or EOF
by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2008 1:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he was (according to Baker)
going to leave Silva out there for the 9th until the M's tacked on runs in the bottom of the 8th... at that point he decided to go with Green who was already up and warmed.
Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 13, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is McLaren
why should it make sense?
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 13, 2008 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's just weird. Why would you say that? Why not just say Silva was gassed because he ate too much nacho cheese before the game.
by thepull on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
only thing I can think of
he had more confidence in Silva closing out a 3run game then the bullpen so if it was close he was going to stick with the guy that got them that far.....
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just stupid though
to use a high leverage guy like Green when you could just as easily get some work for Baek/EOF. Yeah, Green was warmed up already, but what happens if he goes out and say... throws 30 game pitches? Now he's burned for the next two days (or should be, but with Squinty he won't be)
by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2008 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Green be this week's O'Face?
Hope not, but Mac seems clueless to how to operate a bullpen. It seems the casual fans now have the impression that O'Flaherty is a bad pitcher based on his work in Baltimore, even though I'd blame Mac more than O'Face himself, even though he does carry some of the blame.
by Fin on Apr 13, 2008 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not going to use Baek
he's reserved for when a starter has to go out early.....
so the only real other option is EOF.... I doubted they wanted to go to him with a 3 run lead... but they should have had him up next to Green just in case.
I agree its stupid, just trying to think of what McLaren might have been thinking.
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by MfaninAlaska on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find the thought process bizarre
If difference =< 3 runs, use tired Silva.
If difference > 3 runs, use your right handed setup guy.
Doesn't that say McLaren has more faith in Silva getting guys out while tired than he has in Sean Green? And that he doesn't actually value resting his pen, which flies in the face of everything we've heard about wanting the starts to go deep as possible, etc.
I'm just confused.
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, brings back happy memories (before lab work and booze broke me)...
The only problem is that it makes me want to calculate the peak 'talent' level of Ibanez to do a determination of whether his half-life decay is zero, first, or second order. I suspect that zero order (in either direction) is pretty much impossible for a baseball player over more than three seasons (and even three would require careful units to get a straight line). Straight lines in nature are pretty rare, and most of them are currently described by "Uhh, we can't model why that atom decayed when it did, but we know they'll do it every so often!"
Really, I feel like first and second order may describe short periods, but an overall career has to be a quadratic function.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
all lines are straight!
//pedantic math rant
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, true...
But you can't graph a true arc on a computer screen or graphing program. It will always be a series of small lines.
/countering pedanticism with even worse pedanticism
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know. It's just "straight line" is one of those things like
"could care less" for me. I've taken up the cause to do my best to rid it from speech.
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, that I will agree with.
Could care less is the worst corruption of a colloquial phrase in history. I'll try to limit the whole straight line thing, in the future, because you're right.
But only if you agree to bring back "whom." That's my personal pet peeve, because there's no reason to drop it. Split infinitive, a useless pain in the but that limits style. Ending on a preposition, well sometimes it's necessary (especially with colloquial phrases). But there's no reason to get rid of whom, it's an easy rule.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
times like this I wish search were not broken
because then I could throw up a couple dozen links of comments I've made wherein I use 'whom'.
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as we're in agreement that "social sciences" are not science
I agree
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The remaining portion of my ego that gives a shit about Evergreen is offended.
hahahaha
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it's cool, I have a degree in a social science
I can make jokes about it.
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Social Sciences are ones of those things.
Everyone agrees they're important, but everyone talks shit about them, too.
hahahaha
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's because they are inferior to the natural and formal sciences
:P
by Matthew on Apr 13, 2008 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm okay with this.
But yes, social science. I dig. When I start doing Psych research I'd like to be able to pretend it's important.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But they're not without a great deal of merit.
I mean, yeah, they'll never completely revolutionize anything in the manner that the natural and formal sciences do with regularity, they will blow my fucking mind when I am high.
Support local music.
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't smoke pot, by the way.
Not that there's anything wrong with smoking pot. I mean, I used to smoke EPIC amounts of pot. But, you know, I just outgrew it.
Wait, I am reinforcing all sorts of Evergreen stereotypes right now/
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by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh, no...
It's still better than something like physics or engineering (not that engineering, for the most part, is really approached as a science), because in Chemistry you at least get the crossover from the biology/zoology/MMBB girls for the first few years.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and of course...
The premed and vet med girls too.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but physics is interesting
While chemistry is just fundamentally boring.
Neither one is as cool as biology, of course.
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, biochem is the best of both worlds...
None of the silly "memorize these 100 different structures that basically boil down to the same thing" exercises. Instead you get the "wow, how the hell did it manage to turn this molecule into that one, and how can we harness it to do something useful?"
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am currently revising stochastic models of biochemical reactions in cells. I don't understand it.
Why am I doing this? I'm a goddamn biostructural engineer/baseball analyst, not a bloody biochemist >:(.
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's strange the slight difference between what's interesting in the sciences...
I loved biochem for my undergrad work/degree. Then got sucked into electrochemistry, which was fun at first and then drove me out of the sciences. Electrochem, especially dealing with the old technologies (in my case lead acid) really sucks.
But there's always a life after the sciences. I'm pretty happy in photography, even if I'm dealing with stuff that makes Dave Cameron's work look like National Geographic. Taking/culling/editing photos of college students at various levels of intoxication and/or stupidity can be fun.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure
biochem is the worst of both worlds.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 13, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spoken like a man who's never fired tBuLi into the air
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh it's cool for blowing shit up
I'll give you that much.
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nanotubes will convince you of chemistry's awesomeness
At least that's what people have been telling me for like five years
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're still not as cool as buckyballs...
Sure, nanotubes are interesting, but we haven't done anything all that spectacular yet. There are tons of ideas in computing, nanoparticles, batteries, electronics and such...but buckyballs are still cooler. The geodesic dome is the only structure we can make that actually gets stronger as it gets larger.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on your failure criterion, I suspect
Arches are also size-independent for strength, more or less. It's all geometric.
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A paraphrased conversation with my supervisor from last month
*I pick up a tube with a sample inside*
Graham: So what's this?
Supervisor: Oh. carbon nanotube reinforced plastic.
G: But you're a biomaterials person.
S: Yeah, they're not mine. But I got asked to run a bunch of tests on them by a friend of mine.
G: So how much strength do they add?
S: None.
G: Buhh?
S: The tubes aren't long enough to act as reinforceing fibres.
G: So why do they call it reinforced?
S: Beats me.
G: So what does adding nanotubes actually do?
S: Changes the colour!
G: And?
S: And that's it.
G: Oh
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently they have some nifty electrical properties
But I'm structures, and therefore don't care about all the electromagnetism blah blah blah
by Graham on Apr 13, 2008 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I don't care about electromagnetism either
I just like playing with organic reaction mechanisms.
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm doing a ton of organic chem
My project is an organic photovoltaic project using conjugated block copolymers and quantum dots. Yeah thats right, buzz word potential everywhere.
Oh and bio is not cooler than chemistry. Physics is theoretically the coolest but chemistry is the best in practice. Bio is the bastard child of the 3 major sciences and will always stay there because it is too complex to form rigorous theory unlike chem and physics. Basically bio is what you get when you take science and take away math.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 13, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah...
don't ever do polymers research. Chloroform and benzene everywhere. Oh well, the price we pay for doing stuff way cooler than pipet cells around all day.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 13, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vaguely remember
working in a lab at the wee age of 19 where we were trying to make synthetic muscle fibers out of nanotubes. They would expand and contract under different currents.... but we had a hell of a time spinning them into fibers.
It was pretty cool stuff though... worked with a lot of Uzbekistanians and other eastern Europeans... Drank a lot that summer.
It's kinda weird coming on here before I go to lab on a Sunday morning looking for baseball and finding Chemistry talk.
by JuliaHope on Apr 13, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost lit myself on fire
by using a glovebox contaminated with oxygen when I was going to work with triEtAl. Thank god a small asian woman (genius postdoc) saved me.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 13, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the M's sweep tomorrow...
I will run naked through the streets of Greenwood.
Note: I am not actually running naked through the streets of Greenwood.
Note; Stay away from the streets of Greenwood just in case I change my mind.
Its such a long way down/Maybe I should try a floor below
A softer landing might just ease the pain
Being a coward is such a drag
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not as big of a deal
Because those damn A's have a 2 game lead at first.
by Fin on Apr 13, 2008 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I'm drunk on Stone Imperial Russian Stout
So everything seems more important than it actually is.
Fuck! There's a fucking fly in my basement!
hahahaha
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure that it was Matthews
trying to reach Sexson's funk blast, since Hunter was DH'ing.
by naviomelo on Apr 13, 2008 1:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great game.
I got there at 6:30 after missing the bus. I was told the Dalai Lama threw out the first pitch and told people so (complaining that I was upset I missed it). The person who said that turned out to be wrong. I saw pdb, told him that he also missed the
dalai lama (sorry pdb). When I visited pdb, I saw Brett hold up the Bonds sign. So that was awesome. Couldn't really get your attention though, Brett. Same with you, Sec 108. pdb pointed out your green hat, but there was no way I was getting up there.
Then the Mariners won.
Also, when I found out that Safeco serves Mac and Jacks, something I didn't notice before, today became an even greater game. Good times all around.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 1:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boo Mac and Jacks
Support local music.
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo local music.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, local music sucks.
I have no idea why I booed Mac and Jacks. It's perfectly fine. I'm just drunk , bored and fishing for replies.
Support local music.
by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, gotcha.
Boo... um... cartoon network's original adult swim shows. Yea, boo those.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay Simpsons Season 3 on DVD
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by acblue on Apr 13, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay... um...
Yeah, I got nothing, I'm sleepy.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing will ever suck...
As much as Tom Goes To the Mayor. And Squidbillies. And all the stupid anime shows they were doing around...2002? Cowboy Bebop will still be the only anime allowed on Adult Swim.
But to boo all the originals...no. ATHF was amazing, even if it has fallen upon hard times. The Boondocks was quite good. The Brak show had a few good moments...and there are a ton I can't think of right now.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. On today.
Trigun is fantastic, if you like Cowboy Bebop. But you are correct. I have no "issue" necessarily with.. Bleach? But it's not "adult" - it's just a standard anime.
Also, squidbillies is god awful. I'm offended by its existence. ATHF is okay. I thought it was funny at first, but it got old on me. And Boondocks is good, you're right, but I didn't actually know that was Cartoon Network. I thought that was elsewhere. That barely counts as a CN show, though.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boondocs was newspaper comic...
But I think the animated version was CN only.
What about all the Inuyasha, etc. stuff? And the one with the robot maid, the negotiator, and the giant mech suit stuff? I can't remember, but that bored the hell out of me. All I can remember is that the guy's name is Roger, Roger Smith I think. And the maid was Dorothy.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware, that's why I don't think Boondocks counts.
Inuyasha was on adult swim so 13 year old girls can pretend they're adults. I don't remember the rest, though. Inuyasha turned me off the channel for a while. I owned cowboy bebop. I was mostly on comedy central at that point.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh, there it is....
"The Big O"...lots of innuendo in the title, nothing to back it up but a robot nagging a rich guy and action sequences that made Dragonball Z seem fast paced.
Of course, I also hate FLCL/Fooly Cooly too. So I'll never win the approval of the 4Chan folks.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god...
The whole Tim and Eric Awsome Show whatever the fuck the rest of the name is. Who watches that crap? Yeah, I guess there is a reason I no longer stay up until 2 am on a Sunday night to watch Adult Swim. They shouldn't have fucked with it by making it so many nights per week, and running so many shitty (rerun) programs.
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any show on cartoon network that isn't a cartoon shouldn't exist.
Not unless Cartoon network wants to pull an MTV by not playing anything related to the channel's purpose
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Apr 13, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo, Jeff
Not trying to be nitpicky at all, but I figure that if you write something that long, you probably don't want a typo in your closing line, so I'll point out that you've got a "betters" instead of "better."
by Teej on Apr 13, 2008 2:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good man
I usually have to rely on Matthew stealthily fixing those things.
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 2:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem at all.
I'm an editor, so it's what I do. I just feel like a dick sometimes pointing out stuff, so I try to do it in moderation.
by Teej on Apr 13, 2008 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I encourage more nitpicking
I hate typos.
by Jeff on Apr 13, 2008 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then, consider me no longer shy.
Though I have to say that, for the amount of copy you pump out and how quickly you do so, you're remarkably clean. Kudos.
by Teej on Apr 13, 2008 3:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Venture Bros.
All that Adult Swim talk and no one mentions the best cartoon ever produced? Odd.
by thewyrm on Apr 13, 2008 4:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, another very good one...
I just wish there were new episodes lately. The double date bathroom scene will go down as one of my all time favorites.
"Did you dab?"
by Sidi on Apr 13, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much the Angel hatred
is also because Rev draws breath.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 13, 2008 5:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's completely irrelevant in the scheme of things, I'm sure
As are their fans in general.
They just entertain me much in the same context that Ren and Stimpy did when I was 7.
by cwel87 on Apr 13, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it definitely adds to the hatred for me.
by Fett42 on Apr 13, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are they hateable? Sure
But are they even worthy of such a strong emotion? I mean, their overall irrelevance makes me feel at best, annoyed, and typically indifferent, all the while amused by their mostly moronic antics.
This bleeds out to the average Angels fan, by the way - I know of a few that frequent here (Eyebrows, Optimist) who are knowledgable about their team. The vast majorty, however, gives fans like them a deplorable name. And I think they've realized that, considering their activity here as opposed to HH.
by cwel87 on Apr 13, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"First Order strikeout by Beltre"
I have a feeling that that one will stick in LL nomenclature
by ningwers on Apr 13, 2008 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Much love for Jeff
Made the mistake of browsing Halos Heaven after reading this. It was like reading "See Jane Run" after finishing off "Catcher In the Rye". The mental down shift required made me drop my cerebral tranny.
by PDXTai on Apr 13, 2008 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Everytime you read that "P" word...
...you lose a brain cell that would be better spent drinking beer.
by PDXTai on Apr 13, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got banned for calling Rev a jerk
after he called for the intentional injuring of Raul Ibanez. I'm proud of that.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 13, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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