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Fresh from both Jose Romero over at Baker's blog and the official team website, we get the following:

But there remains a mystery as to which lefty in camp will replace George Sherrill as the left-handed bridge to closer J.J. Putz.
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The candidates are Eric O'Flaherty, Cesar Jimenez, Ryan Feierabend and Ryan Rowland-Smith.
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"The thing I like about (Jimenez), is that he uses both sides of the plate and he's got a good changeup," McLaren said. "He's somebody who was definitely on the radar screen coming to Spring Training, and he's done nothing but strengthen himself here. I like what I've seen."

Let's make one thing clear right now: nobody's going to do what Sherrill did last season. The Governor was terrific all summer long, and what this really comes down to is a battle for who the coaching staff thinks can provide the smallest downgrade. To believe anything else is delusion.

There are four nominal contenders for this role, listed above. However, both RRS and Feierabend are (justifiably) viewed as potential long-term starters or swingmen, so they're highly likely to begin the year getting stretched out in Tacoma. I support this decision, because I think RRS has it in him to be the third-best starter in the organization by July. (That's both good and rather damning.)

But meanwhile, barring some surprise, that means we're left with Eric O'Flaherty and Cesar Jimenez vying for the job of #1 lefty. Of all the competitions taking place in Mariner camp this spring, this one stands to be the most important.

O'Flaherty sure as hell better win.

For as long as he was a Mariner, George Sherrill's job was, first and foremost, to pitch against the top lefty hitters in the league. And he succeeded with flying colors. With a .167 BAA and a 34% strikeout rate versus left-handed bats, Sherrill's been one of, if not the premier specialist in baseball. What's the key to his success? That big, sweeping breaking ball. More than anything else, it's been that pitch that's granted him such terrifying power.

For a lefty specialist, the breaking ball is absolutely essential (the same goes for righties vs. righties). By diving and darting away from the hitter, it slows down the bat and makes contact - particularly solid contact - quite difficult. In fact, it's such a good weapon that, against same-handed hitters, pitchers tend to work off the heater and breaking ball almost exclusively. Observe:

Pitch selection of lefty relievers vs. lefty bats:

Fastball: 59%
Breaking Ball: 36%
Changeup: 5%

(We're dealing with lefty relievers here, so they're all I looked at.)

The fastball's always going to be a pitcher's staple, but when going to something else against a same-handed hitter, it's almost always going to be a slider or a curve. Pitchers avoid the changeup in these situations because, unlike a breaking ball, changeups dart back in towards the hitter, which speeds up his bat and comes with an invitation to pull the ball down the line. And obviously the last thing you want to do is give a hitter that kind of opportunity. By and large, the change is used only sparingly in these situations to mix things up. To be more ambitious is to put your job in jeopardy.

Where am I going with this? I'm glad you asked. At this point, Eric O'Flaherty is a known quantity. He's got a three-quarters delivery that unleashes a decent fastball with a bit of sink, a tough, sharp slider, and a developing change. His Major League splits last year were exaggerated - his true talent level isn't a 248-point OPS split between lefties and righties - but he's definitely well-suited for the kind of work for which he's competing. He has good command of his slider, and it's a legitimate weapon against tough lefties.

Cesar Jimenez, on the other hand, doesn't fit the profile at all. While the organization really seems to like him for whatever reason, this isn't the right role for his skillset. Jimenez also uses a three-quarters arm slot, but his fastball is a few ticks below O'Flaherty's, and he's far more well-known for his changeup than for his curve. This is because his changeup is good, and his curve really sucks. It hasn't made the progress that a lot of people hoped it would, and right now it's nowhere close to being Major League-caliber.

That's not the best recipe for a potential Sherrill successor. It's not unheard of for a fastball/changeup guy to make it as a lefty specialist - it's worked kind of all right for Aaron Fultz and Dennys Reyes - but it's a lot more difficult, and the odds of dominating are slim. The reason you don't see many lefty relievers lacking a quality breaking ball is that it's almost impossible to make it without one. And right now, Cesar Jimenez is without one.

If Jimenez ever makes it into a Major League bullpen, it should be as a sponge for low-leverage middle innings, a guy who can face two or three or ten hitters of all shapes and sizes without embarrassing himself. Unless he proves to be an exception to the rule - and there's no evidence of this - then that's the job for which he's most cut out.

And O'Flaherty, he's ready to help out against tough lefties right now. He's not George Sherrill, but few people are, and his slider should be good enough to keep him from being a liability. While his change may not be good enough to keep righties quiet, given Sherrill's typical usage pattern, that shouldn't be much of an issue.

In my book, this is no contest. Hopefully the team is just using Jimenez as motivation for O'Flaherty to put forth a stronger effort, similar to how it used Fernando Vina two years ago, because that's the only way this really makes sense. So here's to a full season of delicious potatoes. With none of them mashed.

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This is McLaren we are talking about.  I can easily see Jimenez as the 2nd lefty out of the pen.

by tait644 on Mar 7, 2008 11:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand
he gave no reason for why Jimenez has been impressive, other than that he "uses both sides of the plate and has a good changeup", which isn't really that special. Especially when the changeup does the exact opposite of what his job would be when called up.

by Mariner John on Mar 7, 2008 11:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jimenez sucks
McLaren's infatuation with him is just another mark that McLaren is terrible at identifying talent.

by davidcameron on Mar 8, 2008 12:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't sugar coat it.
Tell us how you really feel.
...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Mar 8, 2008 1:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides our scouting department
Is there anyone in the M's organization that CAN identify talent?

The long term implications of using Jiminez is a bit frightening.  If they select him for the job and he bombs on the way to the trade deadline (with this team still having a shot at contention)Bavasi will surely be out looking for a left-handed Cagey War Veteran(TM) to replace him.

by ThundaPC on Mar 8, 2008 2:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why doesn't Bill Bavasi ...
get it over with and just trade for some over-the-hill, washed-up lefty specialist (e.g. Steve Kline, Mike Stanton, et al.) before the season? Sans Damaso Marte, there's not one decent lefty specialist who might be available through a trade.

Hell, Jeff Fassero recently pitched for Mayos de Navojoa in the Mexican Pacific League earlier this winter during a comeback attempt; thus, Bavasi could cream his jeans by signing Fassero's 45-year-old ass.

Yet, all sarcasm aside, there's nothing that'd alleviate the pain of watching Eric O'Flaherty get jobbed out to Cesar Jimenez by good ol' Johnny McCocksmoker.

by AK1984 on Mar 8, 2008 4:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget, that's his "schtick"
oh, no, wait, that's provocation.  One schtick per poster, please.  I get confused, otherwise.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 8, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I'm, no, good at them,
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 8, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know a woman taking Lybrel,
She seems to love it, but, her sentences all end in commas now,

by Sec 108 on Mar 8, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

had to look up what lybrel was
but that wasn't bad.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 8, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hypothetically, if Jimenez does win out
I can't imagine he'd keep the role all the way through the trade deadline. I'm more afraid of the games he'd cost us in April and May.

by Jeff on Mar 8, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand this either
Jimenez is AAAA fodder, and by no means a lefty shutdown guy.  I can't understand why he's suddenly any part of the LH-setup conversation.

by Gomez on Mar 8, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit!
Jeff already gave us an in-depth description about why Cesar Jimenez should be bullpen fodder with the Tacoma Rainiers, so all I've got to add here is this: Jimenez sucks ... and John McLaren enjoys it.

by AK1984 on Mar 8, 2008 3:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

a couple of things
1:  It's not at all clear that McLaren's comments about Jimenez concerned his competition for Sherrill's role.   He's a lefty, he's in camp, presumably the reporter asked about him and McLaren said he's looked good or whatever.
For all of the reasons listed by Jeff, and for the fact that Cesar's not been a reliever in the organized minor leagues since 2005 (and that he's had major surgery since then) means he's probably not even in competition for the high leverage "#1 lefty" job.   He's just looked good in camp, same with Morse or whatever.  
I think we'd all go crazy if we treated every throwaway spring training quote as a mark of organizational thought, roster/depth chart planning etc.  

2:  As alluded to above, we know that Jimenez sucks as a starting pitcher.   It was a great idea to try it out, given the change-up.   But hey, now we know.   We still don't really know what he is as a reliever.   Clearly his K rates as a starter are unrecognizeable to his K rates as a reliever.   Perhaps that's small sample size theater, but it's worth exploring.   Yeah, it's worth exploring in Tacoma to start with perhaps, but even if he makes the team out of Spring training I'm assuming he'd make it at the expense of Horacio or Rhodes, not Potatoes.  Yes, this team uses people in inefficient ways, but I've got to hope that even this org can see the difference between Sherrill/O'Flaherty and Jimenez.   And yet that doesn't necessarily mean that Jimenez is totally useless...

by marc w on Mar 8, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jimenez
just got bombed for 3 runs in the game today. I agree with marc that he has almost no chance (not even counting today's ill performance). It's just what McLaren's supposed to say to reporters -- positive comments about his players.

by redwolf75 on Mar 8, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I can't imagine they'll consider Jimenez for high-leverage innings after today's game.

Hey, it'll be cool to see what he can do in Tacoma.  

by marc w on Mar 8, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They used Rick White last year
in high-leverage situations...anything is possible
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Mar 8, 2008 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So
how is Arthur Rhodes' rehabilitation going?

by G_ on Mar 8, 2008 8:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jimenez won't make Seattle
because Ho is going to be in the pen and they won't carry 4 lefties.

What it will be:
Ho, RRS, EOF, Putz, Morrow, Green and Lowe/Reitsma/Huber.

What it should be:
Putz, Green, EOF, Lowe/Huber, Ho/Rhodes, Baek/Reitsma + 5 man bench (Burke, Willie, Morse, Norton, Reed/Jimerson)

with RRS and Morrow starting in Tacoma to groom for 2009/2010 SP jobs (and instantly becoming better replacements for lost Tillman and Butler)

by Matthew on Mar 9, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also think Baek could stick for a bit
since he's out of options and fairly useful in the event of an injury.

by Jeff on Mar 9, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if we're going to go with the shitter
pen anyways, I'd much rather use my design. RRS and Morrow starting in Tacoma would make me no longer dislike the Bedard trade because I'd now view it as:

Bedard for Jones, Sherrill and Mickolio

and RRS + Morrow as SP >> Tillman + Butler (IMO)

by Matthew on Mar 9, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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