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Top 50 Mariner Moments, 2007: #12

August 18th: In the middle of the 6th inning, Adrian Beltre gives Red a signed bat.

Box score & PBP

Game thread

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LL: Let's get right to it. Great day, or greatest day?

Our Hero: Greatest day ever, no doubt.  No offense to my girlfriend or anybody else but nothing can compare to the excitement and surprise of that day.

LL: Based on your facial expressions at the time, this clearly came as a complete surprise. Had there been any prior interaction with the dugout, or did someone just suddenly come hand you a bat out of nowhere?

Our Hero: When I got to the seats before the game the players noticed right away.  Washburn was the first to see it and then one by one all the players climbed out of the dugout to see it, and last but not least Beltre came out to take a look.  They were all laughing pretty good about it.

When I got the bat it was 100% surprise.  I was actually arguing with somebody a couple rows back who had been telling me to sit down all game and then he started Beltre bashing to try to get me to shut up.  I got a little poke on the shoulder and one of my favorite ushers Jill had the bat for me.  She was almost in tears she was so happy for me.

LL: Where's the bat right now?

Our Hero: In a tube propped up against my nightstand, about two feet from my face when Im in bed.  Its the first thing I see in the morning when I wake up, and the last thing I look at before I go to sleep.  Needless to say I wake up with a smile on my face every morning.  Yeah, I know, I'm gay.

LL: A guy with a switchblade breaks into your place and your only means of protection, other than your body, is the bat. What do you do?

Our Hero: My first instinct would be to throw Shannon in front of him and as soon as he tried to stab her it would be on like neckbones.  The funny thing is, when she read this question she already knew the answer.  She told me she'd be willing to take one for the team.

LL: Do your friends and loved ones realize that, no matter how hard they try, they'll never be able to get you a better gift?

Our Hero: They do.  But they all see what a happy ass retard I turn into whenever I start talking about Mr. Beltre so they know that if they get me ANYTHING to do with Beltre Ill be more than happy.

LL: For people who're new to the whole phenomenon of you, please explain why you love Adrian Beltre so much.

Our Hero: Hes fun to watch, he seems like a normal human being, not a superstar.  Hes a guy who plays like he truly enjoys the game.  You never hear about him causing any trouble, complaining about anything or anybody.  He realizes what hes doing is a privilege and not too many people get to do it.  He hustles every play, he never seems like he takes any plays off.

As if that wasn't enough to like a guy, the characteristics and quirky things he does on the field are part of it too.  The happy feet dance in the box, appeals to the first base ump, and some of the looks on his face during the game are priceless.  Like I said, hes just REALLY fun to watch.

LL: Was this the first time Beltre ever acknowledged you, or were there earlier instances?

Our Hero: No.  He always acknowledged me when he saw me, even if I'm not behind the dugout.  Usually just a head nod and a smile most of the time and a tip of the cap and the end of the game, but thats enough for me.  Before the Boston game on my birthday he got my attention and tossed me a ball, hes never big timed me.  Unfortunately Ive never had the chance to talk to him and tell him thank you.  

LL: Your fame clearly grew pretty substantially over the course of the summer. Do you find that people responded to you differently in September than they did in April and May?

Our Hero: It's funny you asked this question.  I know at the start of the season most people just got REALLY annoyed with me.  Most of the people in that section aren't there because they enjoy baseball, they're there because they think its a status symbol, which annoys the shit out of me.  I don't go out of my way to be rude but when I know I'm under somebody's skin I just turn it up a few notches.  Early in the season that was the case, the ushers really like me though so I knew I was okay.  Ive almost gotten into it a couple times but nothing too serious.  When the Mariners started winning and more people came to the games and watched more games on TV it was a different story.  I found that people either really like watching me, or I annoy the shit out of them.

I found out from a little old Japanese couple that apparently they like me in Japan as well.  One of the last games of the year there was a large group of exchange students or something and I jumped in the back of there big group picture more or less just to mess with them.  When the guy taking the pictures saw me he pointed me out and the group went crazy and they all wanted pictures with me, that was pretty neat.  Now I can say that I'm big in Japan.

LL: And one last question. When you and your girlfriend get down to business, does the 3' Beltre bobblehead get to watch, or do you turn him around?

Our Hero: Ah man, save the best for last.  The 3 footer is posted up on my mini fridge in the living room so when we bump uglies on the couch he gets to watch.  If we're doing a really good job we can even get him to bob his head in rhythm with us, its kinda creepy but I don't have time to worry about that.  In my room I have a giant poster of Jack Nicholson from the Shining so its either Beltre or Jack staring at you if you decide to hump people at my place.

LL: Thanks for humoring me. And, of course, thanks even more for being you.

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<3 RED
If I only I were home to join you and Kirby.

by Fett42 on Mar 3, 2008 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Red's answer to this question rules
LL: A guy with a switchblade breaks into your place and your only means of protection, other than your body, is the bat. What do you do?

Our Hero: My first instinct would be to throw Shannon in front of him and as soon as he tried to stab her it would be on like neckbones.  The funny thing is, when she read this question she already knew the answer.  She told me she'd be willing to take one for the team.

by Gomez on Mar 3, 2008 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, this is kind of difficult to top
I thought this would be top 3 easily.

Awesome interview. Now lets hope the LL interview curse ends here.

by JLC on Mar 3, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

#12? Wow
There must have been a lot of good moments I forgot, because I was thinking this would be a top 5 for sure

by mariners124m on Mar 3, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT!
I just heard the M's flipped Red to Atlanta for their I ♥ Lillibridge dude...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 3, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

This joke is so good
I hope it never gets flipped to Atlanta for Brent Lillibridge.

by JLC on Mar 3, 2008 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Against my better judgment
I turned on SportsCenter a little bit ago, just to kill some time while dinner was finishing up. What's the first thing I see? A Brave/Met highlight featuring Brent Lillibridge! He flew out to shallow right field. It was routine, but it still warmed my heart to see the object of such ardent trade fervor in the televised flesh. And, oh my GOD is SportsCenter annoying. Every single play they showed, routine or otherwise, came with a stupid-ass catchphrase, none of which were either funny or relevant. I knew ESPN was bad, but that's unconscionable.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 3, 2008 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sportcenter was showing it?
Does that mean that Lillibridge is not on the Yankees and/or Boston?
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 3, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck.
Read: "Now"

That ruins my entire joke. Fucking shit.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 3, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Making fun of SportCenter is never bad.
Also, don't think I haven't noticed the unusual amount of picking on me recently. I'm not positive what I did, but it has been recognized.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 3, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If that's the case
I'm flipping him for Scarlet Johansen
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Mar 3, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

No better way to enjoy a game than with Red.
Your answer to the last question had me rolling.

By the way, when are you going to be around to get your damn on-field pants, asshole?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Mar 3, 2008 7:47 PM PST reply actions  

I should see you soon
27 days at the most, I promise.
I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 4, 2008 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Freaking hilarious.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Mar 3, 2008 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

Nonsense
This can't be #12. I have a good idea of what 1 will be, but I can't imagine anything else from last season that could remotely compare to this game.

The amazing thing about this game to me was that I was there, and I had no idea that Red had the giant Beltre with him, or that he received the bat. Apparently they showed the entire event on the Jumbotron, but I mustn't have been watching it. At one point I had even walked over to his section to say a quick hey to him, but I was still oblivious to what had happened. It wasn't until I got a text message from Robert that I had realized what had taken place.

by Katal LM on Mar 3, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

off the top of my head
Felix Opening Day
Felix v Daisuke
Ichiro re-sign
Hargrove resign
Hargrove and the Snow Game

should all be in the top 10

other possibilities (they may have already been covered):
the vidro run scored against Cubs back in June
Adam Jones promotion
Jeff Weaver's shutout against Pittsburgh
Jose Lopez doubles home Ichiro in the 11th to beat Joel Pineiro and sweep the Sox
Jose Guillen singles home Beltre to beat Jeremy Accardo 2-1 in the 9th giving the Ms their 8th straight win
Yuni's walkoff single in the 13th against the Angels Aug 1st.
Felix beats Texas 4-2 as the Ms go 20 games above .500, 1 back of Angels, 3 up in the wildcard.
Felix's final game of the season and/or Putz' 40th save.

by Matthew on Mar 3, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was going to be #2
I'm positive Felix one-hitter will be one. I'm really curious what 2-7 or so will be now.

by phil333 on Mar 4, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I absolutely love this site
and Red is a frickin' great guy to talk to about baseball.  Intimidating big guy, but as hilarious as the interview reads (for those of you who haven't met him).  Poor Coach Owens met him, and he's never been the same.

On a side note, I think Red should have a fight with Big Lo (whatever his name is).  

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Mar 3, 2008 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

The Cowardly Lion Got his Courage
I think I started on this blog a few weeks prior, but when that happened, that was the first time I noticed the phrase "Red." I'm pretty sure that was the moment I started coming here more.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 3, 2008 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

Geez, Jeff.
You never have friendly banters with me. I'm starting to think you don't like me!
"Kruger! My son tells me, your company shtinks!"-Frank Costanza.

by Coach Owens on Mar 3, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Did anybody ever find out how Dave Sims
knew Beltre's name toward the season? I specifically remember one game in September that Sims called him by name two or three times, and even people in the game thread were mystified.
Refuse to progress!!

by Double06 on Mar 3, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

HELL
Not Beltre's name, RED'S name.
Refuse to progress!!

by Double06 on Mar 3, 2008 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Kings of Awesome.
Easy mistake.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 4, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Suggestion
The LL store needs an update and I vote for a shirt honoring Red!
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by ConorGlassey on Mar 4, 2008 12:39 AM PST reply actions  

This moment was awesome
But I'm still waiting for the "Vidro Shuffle".

by ThundaPC on Mar 4, 2008 2:47 AM PST reply actions  

As much as I love the whole Red phenomenon
This whole episode made me love Beltre more than I already did.  I think that too few players truly appreciate the adoration they get from fans like Red.

When I was in college my friend and I took a sign to every game and hung it up in the front row of the right field bleachers that read "Haselmania."

Bill didn't have to, but he and his wife Tracy went out of their way to say thanks for the support.  Free tickets behind home plate, signed bats and even a good luck card when I graduated from college.  He wasn't a great player, but he will always be my favorite because of how he appreciated us.  

Beltre is in that league now for me because of how he showed appreciation to Red.

by Sec 108 on Mar 4, 2008 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

That was you?
I actually remember that sign.  I'll have to dig through my pictures from then and see if I can find any shots of it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 4, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a video of John Miller and Joe Morgan
Making fun of us during a Sunday Night game in 1993 or 1994.  I believe John Miller's words were, "Apparently Haselmania is sweeping the Northwest."

I get recognized more for being the guy who caught Tino's game winner in September of 1995 against Eckersley.  People still make fun of me for my bunny hop after catching the ball.

by Sec 108 on Mar 4, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA
I remember that!!  That reaction was awesome!
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Mar 4, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That was you!?!
I was at that game, one of the many, many awesome games of that season

by seattlebruin on Mar 5, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, that was my 15 minutes of fame right there.
That series against the A's will always be my favorite.  The Coleman Grand Slam.  The Alex Diaz homer and bat flip.  Good times.

by Sec 108 on Mar 5, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Uncool, dude
Most of the people in that section aren't there because they enjoy baseball, they're there because they think its a status symbol, which annoys the shit out of me.  I don't go out of my way to be rude but when I know I'm under somebody's skin I just turn it up a few notches.

Perhaps you know that people who sit in your section have, by and large, had tickets for over 25 years and have watched more bad baseball over that time than you can imagine?

Perhaps you may consider that someone who wants to enjoy baseball may not appreciate someone who is sitting in front of them constantly standing up, purely for his own "enjoyment"?

Red is great, but for him to flip sh*t to people who don't like his schtik is uncool.  

by drw on Mar 4, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

if you get pissed because
someone is cheering too loud for the home team, you don't deserve to be in the stadium. Go watch on TV.

by Matthew on Mar 4, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Red on this one.
While many of the fans in that section have been around a good long while, many only came along in 1996.

The demographic in my section changed overnight from 1995 to 1996 and it did not bring many true fans.  It only got worse when we moved to Safeco.  It isn't the theater.  Get off you butts and cheer your freaking team.  Stop treating the damn baseball stadium like a library.

by Sec 108 on Mar 4, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

(Hides under his desk)
All this optimism is bringing me down...

by Thingray on Mar 4, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The licensing fees alone down there are 25,000
PER seat, not to mention the price of the tickets on top of that.  Most of those seats belong to business and corporate accounts.  The few people down there who have had season tickets for years have no problem with me(ask the elderly lady who is there almost every game).  Its the guys in the button up shirts that are there to impress they're friends or the chick they're with Ive had problems with.  The guy two rows behind me who was cheering for the Sox and wearing a Yankees hat.  Yeah, I give those guys shit all the time.  

When you say for my own "enjoyment", do you mean having fun at the game?  Then fuck yeah Im there for my own enjoyment.  If you dont like, thats your bad.  Anybody who has been around me for even half an hour knows that I dont do things as a "schtik" as you like to call it.  Im dont watch baseball because I want people to like me.  Im going to continue to have fun at the games if people like me or not.

In the words of Charles Barkley:  "I am not a role model"

I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 4, 2008 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

re: "I am not a role model"
Don't be so sure of that, Red.    
Here's hoping the pendulum swings towards more spontaneous behavior in the stands and away from the robotic repetition of claps, chants and 'activities' that teams think casual fans enjoy.

Get into it in your own way.   Be like Red.

To be honest, my way of getting into a game is shutting the hell up and scoring the game.   But that doesn't mean Red isn't >>>>>> team-sponsored off-field entertainment.   I'm not even going to address the fools who wear red sox caps and seem taken aback that some people in Seattle actually want the Mariners to win.  

by marc w on Mar 4, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No problem if you aren't right in front of me
I like spontaneous, energetic fans.  I agree that Safeco is too sedate.  But I don't like "look at me I'm so special's."  I don't like "I'm the show, not the game." I come to watch and cheer for baseball.  I see nothing wrong with getting on someone who is wearing the opposing team's hat or the like; I do it all the time, too.  And I enjoy you, Red, because you are truly unique and I am two sections away so I can ignore you if I want to.  

But if you were sitting right in front of me it would piss me off to no end to have to look around you as you stand up and make a spectacle of yourself.  I was at a Seahawk game this year and the guy in front of me had a cowbell that he kept banging the entire game.  While I appreciated his enthusiasm it gave ten people around him a serious headache.  Saying you can do whatever you like because you are having "fun" is fine . . .  but everyone's idea of fun differs.  It appears you don't respect others' views on that, and anyone who disagrees with you is a shit.  

And by the way, I have had season tickets since 1984.  15 years of baseball in the Kingdome.  Now that was torture, but I was there for the love of the game, just like I am now.  Putting me down because I wear button down shirts -- that's bull.  

by drw on Mar 4, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing in Red's defense -
I'm pretty sure he doesn't stand up while there are pitches being thrown. Unless it's a critical situation, I imagine, in which case everybody should be on their feet.

Also, you're the exception down there. Few of the people in those seats care as much as you do.

by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 4, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Lame
I can never feel comfortable in the lower-100 levels. I always feel like I'm the only person not from Bellevue. And I certainly feel like I'm the only one actually paying attention and cheering.

by Katal LM on Mar 4, 2008 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Id like to think that when Im down there
people loosen up a little and have more fun at the game.  They see me acting like a happy ass retard and see that its OK to cheer for the Mariners instead of sitting on their hands.  But in the end I guess all that really matters is that I have fun, and I do.
I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 4, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Each side of this debate ...
has a fair argument to support its stance.

There's no need for anyone to act like a petulant asshole, though.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 3:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Pot, meet kettle
Kettle, this is pot.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 5, 2008 7:00 AM PST up reply actions  

These guys seem to be angry at each other, though.
A majority of my posts, however, are just shtick.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

There are faces and there are heels.
Hell, I'm not some happy-go-lucky bastard like Red, who's outgoing personality is a admirable quality that attracts people to him. The dude has a charismatic gimmick, which I appreciate one-hundred percent.

Conversely, I'm an inherently abrasive, brash guy who frequently rubs people the wrong way. Whether it's on purpose or by accident, I can easily incite people into being all riled up about something for no real reason.

I, therefore, will with stick with being a heel.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

IIRC Red's wrestling character is a heel.
Or at least he was in the videos I've seen of him.(correct me if I'm wrong Red).
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Mar 5, 2008 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

You are correct Mr. Goose
I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 5, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I used wrestling terms in light of Red.
As a 23-year-old guy, I grew up during the late-'90s/early-'00s wrestling boom.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

In that case
Id consider myself a "tweener".

Here is the true question.  Were you an X-Pac fan?

I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 5, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Something was lost in translation.
  1. I'm not really a dick.
  2. I don't purposely act in a brash way; it comes naturally to me.
  3. While I'm not a good person, I'm also not a bad guy. Hell, I'm just an average dude.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

If acting rude comes naturally
and you're aware of it, and you do nothing to change it, that's a choice you're making.

by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 5, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It's less taxing to be smarmy than nice, so ...
everyone can blame my bad attitude on laziness.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Why did I type "smarmy?"
I meant callous.

Whatever, I've been awake for over 24 hours.

Yeah, that's my excuse.

by AK1984 on Mar 5, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, choice
I blame your bad attitude on bad choices you make.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 5, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what she said.
Am I fired?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 5, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You fired too soon.
Too soon?

Fired.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 5, 2008 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow
Thats amazing. A little too obsessive over a freakin baseball player.

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 5, 2008 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

And yet you read the whole thing
and then took the time to register, and then took the time to comment. And the world thanks you for your time. Really.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 5, 2008 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Already registered.
They're in the 1700's now.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 5, 2008 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't bother to look it up
I just didn't recognize the name and assumed he was new.  I stand by the rest of my haughty dismissal.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 5, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Kettle, meet pot
Thats amazing. A little too obsessive over a freakin baseball player.

Remember this diary?
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/story/2008/2/12/225831/140

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzh95NBGTJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ZtQcsVUoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4ydEQ5LLY

It's really hard to say that after making a Jeremy Reed tribute video... I'm genuinely impressed

by seattlebruin on Mar 5, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I can hear it now
"I did not have sexual relations with that centerfielder..."

by yourfacemakesmewail on Mar 5, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the difference
between being fanatically obsessed with one player and being fanatically obsessed with a group of players who wear the same shirts?

by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 5, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Good of you to join us.
The follow ups are below. Feel free and wait a day or so before spitefully responding.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 5, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

How is that obsessing?
I never made a huge sign that says i love reed. I simply made a slideshow of pictures and put music to them cause I like the guy as a person. The dude even said he has never talked to Beltre, yet loves him for his own field performance. Ok, then why isnt ok if I do that for Reed, as a person?

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 5, 2008 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

This is an argument you can't win.
Especially with that spelling and grammar.

Also, no one has a problem if you do a video for Reed, provided you don't say something negative about someone who shows the same passion for Beltre.

Finally, "liking the guy as a person" is actually not as good a reason. Even if it is, Red clearly indicated that he likes Beltre as a person as well. So your argument is moot and, therefore, still has poor grammar.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 5, 2008 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We don't have the same passion!
I don't go to the games screaming for Jeremy and all the crap he does, so we don't have the same passion for them. I'm not trying to win any argument, all I said was my opinion that he was obsessing a little, again in my opinion, so why should it matter?

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 5, 2008 10:39 PM PST reply actions  

It shouldn't.
And it doesn't.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 5, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that Beltre's reaction says it all --
he went the time to acknowledge Red's fandom. Is this it, are you jealous? Jeremy Reed never made your babies?

by redwolf75 on Mar 6, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope MPetrovich
doesn't discourage Red from doing what we love him for. I can imagine I would dump whatever I was doing if it were under the criticism we're witnessing...

by yourfacemakesmewail on Mar 6, 2008 8:09 AM PST reply actions  

1 < everyone else here
and of all the ways I can describe Red from what I've read here, "shrinking violet" is not one of them.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

No...
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how Red can be holding up under the scrutiny of Mpetrovich's attacks and vitriol and his unrelenting appropriate amount of fandom for stalwarts such as Jeremy Reed.

It's much like Roger Maris in '61. I'm sure Red's hair is just falling out over this by now.

by seattlebruin on Mar 6, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

He's probably in the corner, crying softly
and writing sad poetry about how mean people can be.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm old-school
so I think he's got Morrissey on the stereo right about now.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

One of my favorite moments ever.
About 5 years ago I am watching an MTV or VH1 piece on The Smiths with some early 20-something guys and gals.  One of the guys asks, "Why is that dude is trying too hard to be like Morrissey?"

by Sec 108 on Mar 6, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

That's too funny
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

That's like when I played Paul's Boutique
for my bro-in-law a few years ago(he's 20 now).  He said "it's like the Beastie Boys are trying to sound old school or something."

by Jed MC on Mar 6, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Mine too.
Totally underappreciated, but completely amazing.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wrong genre.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 6, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?
How so?  It fits into my sub-category of music I call, "Music to contemplate suicide to."

by Sec 108 on Mar 6, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I thought you were saying that
Red House Painters were emo.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 6, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I just always associate them with
Someone being sad.  Every time I come home from work and my wife has them on I give her a hug and ask, "What's wrong honey?"  She doesn't find it as funny as me, but I will continue doing it.

by Sec 108 on Mar 6, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha.
Yeah, the subgenre they belong to is "sadcore"...
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 6, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Sadcore?
Really?  Where's that Grienke emoticon when you need it?

by Jed MC on Mar 6, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

like bright eyes...
great music, but you'd better be feeling sad, or at least be ready to feel sad...

AND yeah, Red was awesome last year. From the moment he was called 'Courage the Rally Lion' I was onboard. In a sea of boring baseball fans, here was this guy (WITH GREAT SEATS I should add) having a great time celebrating a great player. It was FUN to watch. And by the end of the season I had my wife, in-laws, AND occasionally my sister watching ENTIRE M's games for glimpses of our hero. These are people who have NEVER watched baseball of ANY kind. It helped some that we would joke about how the M's must draw a certain type of person as their #1 fan. A statement I love to make. Tall, insanely voluminuous red hair, and at least a token of personality. While I still dream of being the M's #1 fan, I think all of us on this board sincerely bow to RED as the unequivical #1 fan. Or at least the most honored fan of the 'new age'.
One thing is for sure, a Montana family is closer than ever, AND the Mariners acquired a couple more fans BECAUSE of RED. THANKS BUDDY!!

I almost came over to say hi at the last game of the year, I saw you cheering in the section to the left of me, but figured since it was the last game of the year, you had your share of "hey,I saw you on tv...and cool...well take care" moments for the season.  The reason I didn't was I suddenly felt extremely embarrassed because I had made/was wearing a shirt that says "I [Heart] Beltre 2"
Red receiving the bat was the single greatest fan/player interaction I have EVER seen. Other than some player spending a day with a sick kid kind of deal. I was very proud of him and it made me wish we'd resign Beltre for even MORE money.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Mar 6, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

hey Montucky...
you still want to meet up next Thursday at the M's game in Peoria?  If so, drop me an email (click the link in my sig and follow the "contact" link).
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 6, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

HA!!
I couldn't figure out what you were talking about on the OTHER thread...it makes sense now...

Oh crap, the email I sent was talking about Wed's game...whatever, Thurs IS prob the better day.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Mar 6, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Red has hair now?
He didn't a month ago:
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 6, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Clearly not
It appears I was correct, and all of this criticism has gotten to him. How unfortunate.

by seattlebruin on Mar 6, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul
Hey, were you at the Mariners caravan at UPS this past January?

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 6, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.
I think Corco was there, though...
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 6, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Alright
because there was a guy who asked Dave Sims something about you, about the rally fries, and Dave Valle said, "Is ur name PositivePaul?" And the dude said possibly, so i was jw

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 6, 2008 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Did he look like this:

That's the OTHER Positive Paul (note the space).  The LL crew gathered at FanFest was similarly confused when he mentioned his "name" at FanFest - I remember distinctly the synchronized head turnings my direction at that moment...

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 6, 2008 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes
That was him. Do you know the guy or is he a poser to you?

by MPetrovich7 on Mar 6, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never met him
but he's on the radio all the time after the games
Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 6, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I shaved my head and face for halloween
Not to fear though.  The hair is on its way back and should be in full force by Beltre bobblehead day.  Instead of the beard Im growing the mutton chops for an entire year...at least.
I'll fuck you till you love me!

by RED29 on Mar 6, 2008 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If there's one thing I support, it's epicness
and full grown mutton chops, you internet inferiors, is epicness.

by Matthew on Mar 7, 2008 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

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