Community Projection Results: Adrian Beltre
AB: 599 (595)
2B: 40 (41)
3B: 2 (2)
HR: 29 (26)
HBP: 4 (2)
BB: 43 (38)
K: 102 (104)
SB: 12 (14)
CS: 4 (2)
GB%: 42 (44)
BA: .288 (.276)
OBP: .340 (.319)
SLG: .506 (.482)
IsoPa: .052 (.043)
IsoPo: .219 (.207)
What can I say? You guys love Adrian Beltre almost as much as Adrian Beltre loves fishing.
For sliders. Not fish. That probably could've been clearer.
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You'll never guess who entered the lowest projection
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay let's try this again
you'll never guess who entered the lowest projection
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Guess #2
A professional statistician and Alan Parsons Project fetishist?
by Graham MacAree on Mar 29, 2008 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Next-lowest projection: +51 points OPS
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I like how he's moved on from 'not clutch'
to 'sucks', apparently.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 29, 2008 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions
couldnt agree more
worst signing in team, nay, mlb history. I mean just look at his 2004 numbers. The guy's just plain washed up...
Yeah, thanks.
That was clearly the question I was asking.
...and now I'm here
Search is broken
But 'Pirata Morado' is the guy you want to be watching for.
He might pop into this thread, but the last time he appeared even Dave wandered over from USSM to call him a moron, so he might not.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 29, 2008 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, thanks.
If he pops up, I'll call him a moron as well just so I can be one of the cool kids.
...and now I'm here
A couple years ago,
Jeff, you took a look at data from Baseball Info Solutions and wrote about how Beltre stopped hitting both sliders and fastballs. Beltre's bat has improved since that first turn in Seattle, but I'm curious if you've seen the BIF data for the last couple of years, and, if so, whether he has continued to struggle with fastballs.
Can't speak for Jeff
But if you watch good Beltre, he's stopped fouling off so many fastballs over the plate, and just started crushing them instead. Bad Beltre would foul them straight back.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 29, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
According to Josh Kalk (not BIF)
Beltre vs. fastballs, 2007: .296 BA, .543 SLG
Beltre vs. sliders, 2007: .295 BA, .500 SLG
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay
enough time has passed that I can probably get away with sharing the Beltre data I had.
BPS = BA + SLG
2005 BPS vs. FB: 1.112
2005 BPS vs. CU: .672
2005 BPS vs. SL: .845
2005 BPS vs. CH: .886
Source = Baseball Info Solutions
2007 BPS vs. FB: .852 (includes fastballs, cutters, sinkers, and splitters)
2007 BPS vs. CU: .429
2007 BPS vs. SL: .795
2007 BPS vs. CH: .918
Source = Josh Kalk
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Um
From that old story:
Adrian Beltre was not a good fastball hitter in 2005. He wasn't even close to doing what he did in his breakout season.
And from your comment above:
BPS vs. FB: 1.112.
I don't see how those statements can be reconciled.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 29, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Whooooooops
It's early. Change 2005 BPS to 2004 BPS.
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions

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