08 Mariners Outlook
Pretty good read over at fleece factor on the 08 mariners.
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/02/11/the-2008-seattle-mariners-false-hope/
some notable quotes:
4. Carlos Silva (R) - .310, .290, .324, and .287. Those are opponents batting averages against Carlos Silva over the last four years. Yes, they hit .324 against him in 2006. Sickening. Silva's average opponent has hit .299/.333/.458 against him over his career. Yes, he's a ground ball/contact pitcher that eats up innings. I get that. But for those of you who think he'll fare better on grass, read this: Silva's ERA on grass over the last three years combined is 5.24 and batters have hit a whopping .327 against him - well above his turf numbers (3.92, .279). Simply put, he's just not that good and certainly was not worth $48 million over 4 years. Prediction: Seattle will regret this one before Memorial Day.
1B. Richie Sexson (R) -He was AWFUL last year, hitting .205/.295/.399 with just 21 homeruns and 100 strikeouts. Every single aspect of his offense was offensive and was known to cause many Mariners fans to barf. And the worst part about Sexson is that he's typically a slow starter so the team (and fantasy owners) felt compelled to stick with him the whole season waiting for that turnaround. The Mariners even had a chance to dump him during the waiver period in August but didn't pull the trigger because they thought he could contribute to a stretch run which never materialized (partly because Dick Sexson never turned the corner in 2007). He was terrible and turned in one of the worst offensive seasons by a regular last season. Dick.
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D'oh
Well, it's currently before memorial day
by seattlebruin on Feb 12, 2008 8:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
One could argue it is always before
by Jed MC on Feb 12, 2008 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean
by thejew4u on Feb 13, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy
Really? Yuni? .308!!!!!
by seattlebruin on Feb 12, 2008 8:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or in the past
by pdb on Feb 12, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or on May 26
by seattlebruin on Feb 12, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorta.
by pdb on Feb 12, 2008 9:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, May 26 of this year
by seattlebruin on Feb 12, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for posting the notable quotes.
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 9:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Very skilled -
"You're better looking than I thought you'd be" is a backhanded compliment, not a compliment posed as an insult.
Go.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless the diary author and the article author
Is it even possible to frame a compliment as an insult?
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not.
Maybe something like "God, I hate how fucking smart you are. It makes me sick." But that's a little too easy and a bit of a stretch.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in my book that's not an insult
Hmm... I'll ponder it further.
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've thought of two loopholes and they both suck.
- Opposite day
- You're a fucking asshole [few second pause] and by fucking asshole I mean wonderful human being.
by Jed MC on Feb 12, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about...
by johnbai on Feb 13, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy, backhanded compliment
Your ass is so fat it's almost kinda cute.
by batura on Feb 12, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love backhanded compliments....
by thejew4u on Feb 13, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Silva analysis is certainly laughable
by Graham on Feb 12, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea...
i loathe that signing. haha. i mean, do you really think that was a smart move? i know the market for FA pitching is insane, but that doesn't make it right.
by em3 on Feb 12, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it was clearly stupid
ERA? Batting lines? Jesus. I could have done better than that in high school
by Graham on Feb 12, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners never had a chance to dump him.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on who you ask...
by PositivePaul on Feb 12, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on who you ask...
by PositivePaul on Feb 12, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I asked my magic 8-ball
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
-Batting Average Against is a poor metric. We know Silva is going to have a high one, he doesn't strike many people out. If you're trying to argue that Silva is more hittable, you'd have to use BABIP, of which Silva's is league average.
-Grass vs turf argument? Really? And the author managed to ignore that the grass parks in the AL Central include Jacob's Field (103 3-year park factor for hitters), Comerica (101), US Cell (104) and Kauffman (103) compared to his home turf park, Metrodome (96). Wow, that totally couldn't be the reason! Nope. Certainly a groundball pitcher fares worse playing on a surface that slows down groundballs. That must be it.
Sexson:
-There's no actual 2008 outlook.
-The aforementioned waiver thing.
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair to em
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, Welcome back Matthew
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
enough comment flirting
by marc w on Feb 12, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You clearly don't understand our dynamic.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even understand our dynamic.
by Matthew on Feb 12, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the accent.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The "u" isn't superfluous.
by Llewdor on Feb 12, 2008 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... Otherwise
by johnbai on Feb 13, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
which is haxx0r spelling for
by Matthew on Feb 13, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. Third to last paragraph.
by Librocrat on Feb 12, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
by PositivePaul on Feb 12, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel so...influential.
by pdb on Feb 12, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what is the chance/cost
by skoorbo on Feb 12, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't know, but I'd like to find out
(Hamilton was traded to the rangers for Edinson Volquez+spects).
by marc w on Feb 12, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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